Petplay is an emotional stress reliever for me. Its not always sexual, it has an emotional value too. Keep these things apart and don't try to compare them, that only grows more confusion. We as pet players are just as tired of being compared to furries as you are annoyed with us.
Would never be annoyed by Petplayers. But hey that is my individual view. I guess we are somewhat the same regarding the emotional value/ it beeing a stressrelive. Furries should be calm about Petplayers.
Oh and it's not just pup play Cat play,bunny play it's every animal but pup play is the most popular I just call it the human animals Or plays so yeah Oh btw this is not a hate comment
Tbh i find the look of human pups disturbing. Like idk with fursuits, they have a cutesy look to them that's just kinda, pleasing to see but the human pups are just kinda creepy.
WakkaSeta You probably stumble across murrsuits and otherwise sub-par work, then. There's a lot of really nice suits out there that you can tell people poured their heart into making and it paid off.
I actually found the furry fandom through human pups.I ran into "the secret life of human pups" on social media. Then I googled them, and my classmate looked over my shoulder and said "why r u looking at furries?" , so i looked up furries, and im a furry today. still deciding my fursona
Oh wow welcome here :3 hope you enjoy your stay and get inspired by lots of people. If you also like art then I might as well introduce you to the animation meme community, it's not has good has the furry communities but it has tons of art and lots of furries too. The communication between people has to work but hey just speaking my mind on the matter :p. Anyways Welcome to your new community!!!
I'm just religous, but also pretty certain Christ don't mind .... ^_^ Also, i'm no pup, but i'm also very much into rubber and BDSM ..... and is an otherkin to boot .... and i approve of this, it seems pretty correct as far as things go. There are other overlap areas, and i probably represent one: Being kinky, but despite seeing myself as a human-formed cat, i find no point in ignoring my intelligence on behalf of a headspace that i usually do not require ....
I think im coing to stop hating on the furry fandom, I mean it's just a community, and, I kinda found fur suits cute in some ways... So yeah, I hope the other dank memers will stop or just calm tf down on the furry community. Like I said, I have a huge respect for the person who made their own fur suit, on that final line, I will stop writing. Peace ✌
Thank you, Artemis. I was nervous about the title but I'm really glad this subject was addressed and that you did your research. I think one of the most frustrating things for a lot of us pups (or bunnies or kitties or any other human pet) is that even furries who are also often critisized for the life they choose to live can be so critical in turn. Thank you for trying to understand.
That's one thing I hate about this fandom, so many of them are hypocritical. They complain about being hated on by non-furries, yet will turn right around and do the exact same to furries with weirder kinks or any other group they deem to be more "cringey" than themselves.
I'm not a human pet but I am in a similar boat(AB), and I think that's one of the most annoying things. even other groups that are very criticized and put down talk down on players. Like human pets and littles/ABs to me seem like even in the outsiders' groups, we're hated on for doing something not that different or much "Worse" than furries or other groups(personally experience this with agere, pups haven't been critical to me even tho ngl i am nervous posting this) Most of them just don't WANT to understand.
Yea, it is quite shocking, at how hypocritical some furries can be. I am a furry and a pup, but when I notice how both communities act towards other fandoms, and groups, I can't help but notice how more accepting and welcoming the pup community is compared to the furry fandom
I'm not a pup but I know quite a few and not all of them are into it for the kink side. I love this video and am so glad you really did some research into the meaning behind it all. I had no problem seeing the pups with their hoods on at MFF, they were all super friendly and liked posing for photos just like the suiters. :)
I also know one or two that wear a hood and maybe a collar, but they just like it for that, I don't think they have an "owner" but they're not exactly looking for one seriously either, heck, when I first saw a pup hood (those simple, neoprene ones), I just thought they looked cool, but yeah, I think you'll come across more lewd pups than you will lewd furries. Still, they can do what they want I guess, and if I ever went to a con, I wouldn't be too mad if some people had a pup hood on, maybe the entire gear and not much clothing would be a little much but... Yeah 😊 and personally, I think fursuits are a lil more snuggly
Much like the furry fandom, most of the focus for human pups is focused on the more eccentric pups, such as what happened with the Channel 4 documentary on us. The media likes to shine a spotlight on the worst of us and give them a bad rep just for the money. And for the people in these comments saying that human pups are cringy or stupid, don't forget that is what most people think of furries, there's no need to be like the people you hate just because someone else or a group of people is different from you. Yeah, most pups find the pup play scene a fetish/kink, but there is no need to make people feel bad about it, that's just what they choose to like, as goes for most NSFW comunities that exist.
The shade at MFL got me rolling It's so freaking true. Like they just posted two new suits and the freaking heads look EXACTLY the same. Minus the fur colours of course, but they had the same eye shape and expression. Like Jesus at least TRY to different them a little
Not all people into pet play are pups, they can be any species. Kitty and pony play are also very popular. Pup Play just seems to be at the forefront and is a bit older as far as the movement goes. Saying all pet players are pups is like saying all furries are wolves, they're not. As for the gear aspect, I actually love the feeling of both. I'm a furry with a fursuit and also a human pup with neoprene and leather gear. Fursuits, especially my fullsuit, tend to be hotter and more restrictive, while my neoprene breathes better and I can wear less while still achieving the look I want. Personally, I like the aesthetic of both for different reasons. I like cute and cuddly, but I also like the smooth, closer feel of the rubber/neoprene/leather gear. Both can be very kinky and sexual, or not. It all depends on the person. I also happen to know some furries with "owners" or packs, who do wear collars outside of their suits as a form of additional character connection or as a show of that ownership or belonging. It really varies from person to person, and with their own levels of immersion.
The same can be said about a furry. I am a diehard furry but a random person can find us awfully weird for dressing up in a gigantic neon green husky suit
it's Just a sexual fetiche man relax. I think The Brony fandom it's cringe like fucking hell but I'm okay with it, some of My friend's are bronys it's just they're thing so just relax! And btw you are a fucking so you can't say much we are all fucking cringe.
at worse. most people that stand outside the fandoms to hate everyone inside sees the fandoms as essentially a variation of the human pups so thats a thing to think about when your within a fandom
This human pups just look really creepy I wonder how they like this sweating under this leather and all Like I feel SO stressed when I sweat and this leather is just I don't know if they like to be or "are" a pup why they wear LEATHER and not fur?
BlueSkyWolf Fish i wear a silk sock over my stump (leg prothesis) and you sweat a lot under it when your skin isn't used to it. Also you need to wash it after use or else it starts smelling. I assume it's the same deal with those leather/latex costumes
BlueSkyWolf Fish it's a BDSM-thing (wearing latex) being a dog is more of a dominance thing aka they want to be treated as dogs, kinda like a master/slave relationship only more specific . They have no intentions to be animals in real live through
Brainbot Jezebel Ah okay, I saw some "documentairs" about the sexual thing about it But often readed in the comments from pups that it isn't always a fetish. Just wonder what's the non-sexual reason/meaning/intressed this is about
BlueSkyWolf Fish maybe the tight leather feels more like a second skin to them, like a mask just for your whole body and they prefer this experience over a furred animal costume
Actual pups aren't they only animal type. They're a part of a sub-group of BDSM called pet-play. There are kittens, ponies, wolves, bunnies, etc. But I'll agree they are pretty creepy looking compared to furries.
Enjoying the new mic and this is a great little breakdown of the whole thing, I think what you said about confuzzled works, inclusive of all but so long as they have the personal discretion to perhaps limit the public showing of said kinky stuff until after dark hours.
all of the pups i know who go to furry cons always wait until after dark hours. respect and consent are very important lessons taught in the bdsm/kink community.
Foamy Arts yeah for me is pup play the fetish side, and furries the funny side. I like wearing my dog mask with human clothes to look anthropomorphic, but i also like running around naked just with mask and tail😂
Foamy Arts not sure what a kink is.. not sure I want to know but.. I also want to be both bc there's a cute funny furry mythical side and a side when I just want to be seen as a doggo and not a human but I'm not sexual in any of it and alot of people would tell you I'm too young to know about that stuff but... Y'know idiots in the comment sections and some vids tend to float around
@@mitt... well, to be fair, if you don't know what kinks are, you probably won't be very good at keeping interaction separated(Like being around non-kink pets and staying away from kink handlers) but I get the sentiment.
Agreed, I'm a pup but it's not a kink for me. I'm a very closed off person, partly because of trust issues and partly because i don't like people. When I'm in my headspace i want to play and cuddle all the time, it essentially tears down that wall i build up
@@oldacct5314 Please just stop picking on them. If you want to be accepted, then you must learn to accept others as long as they're not hurting anybody. Human pups don't hurt anybody so, stop please.
The reason why human pups (or the Bdsm community in general) don't usually go out in public is because of Consent. If we engage in kink (or play) in public, we are violating consent for the unaware people.
Found your channel because a friend wanted me to see that my head base pops up in it. Love your speaking style and your voice. I don't sub to many furs but you earned it haha
This is probably one of your best videos yet Artemis! Informative and direct yet still very entertaining as usual!! Also The new mic really works well! Good choice and excellent video!
@@batwolfy7044 It is weird, and in some cases, quite perverse. If it was run of the mill, no one would bat an eye. While furries can be nonsexual,human pups whole bases is from the bdsm base. hence the need for collars, leashes and trainers, and why the hoods and other gear are based off the bdsm fetish wear, not the more "cuddly' and anthropomorphic visually appealing / cute fursuits.
One difference not mentioned is that being a pup is a gay male thing, while furries are all genders and all sexualities. I have seen the extremely rare female handler, I have never seen a female pup in the six years that I have been aware of them.
I found this channel on recommended after watching the Amazing Atheist. At first I regretted but I enjoy the channel. Not furry personally but your channel is good. Keep it up mate
This was the first video of yours that I had seen and I have really enjoyed your content. I am really glad that I happen to have it come across as a suggested video to watch.
As a human pup and a furry , I got to say , your really knowledgeable about human pups. Not all of the information was accurate but most of it was for me to tell that you do your research. You just got another subscriber:)
Can't Furries go for the four legged style as well? I'm pretty sure we can do that, I like both bipedal, and qudrupedal designs, but my character is quadruped. Well, my main character, anyway.
Somebody Of course they can, those suits are called quadsuits but its really a pain in the ass to suit in them. Plus, there arent many makers that are able to build quadsuits and they cost a lot more than „regular“ fursuits
The word you're looking for, by the way, is 'therianthrope'. Derived from the term 'lycanthrope'. Or also, 'zoanthrope'. It's more complicated than that. Because you get the therians/otherkin who are claiming they are having involuntary experiences where they percieve themselves entering an animalistic state, and some of them actually 'don't' like that, apparently. Something to do with schizoaffective disorders, or past trauma, or something, that they've conflated with an animal or liminal identity. Or the ones like me, who are also furry, and who would totes be some kind of cartoonish animagus from the Harry Potter mythos who actually assumes their animal form on top of being totes okay with the human condition and cartoonish anthropomorphs! Just give us the technology! Shapeshifting furry-cyborgs sounds nice!
I actually bumped into a pair of "human pups" in an elevator once at a hotel. Full leather, hoods, chains, locks, the works. It was the most metal thing I'd ever seen anyone wear in public. If cosplaying/fursuiting was a music festival, they'd be Kiss.
Just come across this, have to say that's a very good summary of the differences and similarities, thank you for making a good, solid video that i can reference incase i need to explain it to others :)
I love your vids. I've been binge watching all off them and finally subscribed. Anyway, I like both the furries ahs human pups. Though I like the fluffy costumes better than the leather ones.
I'm curious, does anyone know the name of the song played in the background? (to me it sounds like an instrumental to a Steam Powered Giraffe song but I can't remember the name) Nice vid btw!
They're mostly the same thing. People in denial that need a good dog dick shoved in their holes to satiate all those lies and fake dignity. Once they get past that, they'll no longer be so obsessed with this cosplay crap. Just shove the dog dick in a couple times a day, and they'll be golden.
A very well made video, informative, especially since I never even knew about the Human Pup scene existing. The ending you went with was rather fun too haha. The human pup idea definitely would not be my thing though, I would be straight furry given the choice. ^^ Interesting enough, I dont consider myself a furry, but i do fur suiting professionally ( performing as a character ) You people in the furry community definitely got my respect XD
I am both a furry and a human pup. I wear my pup hood to conventions sometimes and my suit some other times. There are a lot of furry/pups in the fandom tbh.
I went to MFF. So I saw the mass of pups. It being my first fur con I thought it was the norm. I was a little shocked at first since there were children present I thought it was in bad taste. But I don't attack others for what they enjoy. The main hotel is connected by a skybridge. And throughout the con there are two lines feeding through it to one side or the other. I just happened to get into that line behind a group of leather pups. I saw many furs reactions as the lines passed. Many scowling looks. One fursuiter giving high fives to the passing line put his hand down for the pups. I tried to high five him as he passed but he kept it down till a few people behind me. So I knew a lot of furs were not a fan of them. However there were also the supporters as well going bark bark as they passed or specifically high fiving them. So they got a mix of both acceptance and disdain. So its a mix for me. They should be able to enjoy what they enjoy without hate. But I think they could show it in a more private setting where children are not present.
I don't get all the hate of you guys. Like petplay isn't bad or “creepy“. It's something we do to relieve stress or be ourself as a submissive. It's most of the time 100% non-sexual too. And yes, pupplay is BDSM, but that doesn't make it in any way weird or creepy. And not all human pups wear a leather/latex/neoprene hood, some wear cute ears and a tail. You all sound like the people who hate furrys. Btw most of the human pups are gay, just like most furrys are gay. Why do you hate on people in your own community (gay community)? I just don't get why. Btw, I am an asexual female foxplayer (thats another kind of petplay) and I enjoy it. I enjoy myself being a fox for a few hours or just dress up cute in my gear. I am proud about being in foxplay, because it's awesome!
I wouldn't take them too seriously. These guys would suck off a horse or let a dog knot their ass, first chance you give them. They're in no position to shit-talk you. Oh yeah, and some of them like eating shit, too. That's a thing.
@@starchaserstudios3752 ummm you do live in a fairytale world full of sparkles, don't you? Some furries are vile and they do do some pretty sick stuff. Not all, but there are some pretty sick people hiding in the community, and they, by and large are the ones who have made it bad for everyone else. jack's obviously got a bee in his bonnet or somewhere even more uncomfortable, but there are furries whose mindspace, or activity range you wouldn't want to find yourself in. If you did, you'd run, and be cringing and possibly vomiting...
Nancy Cousintine I’ve been sexually abused. I don’t live in a fairytale world I just don’t appreciate random people saying vile things to people they don’t know. Trust me I know my fandom, there is always a person whose doing something bad even then, it’s none of your business. You don’t like it, don’t look at it, what people do behind closed doors is no one’s business. Same goes for pornography, if you don’t want to see it, don’t look at it.
that Austin Powers ref just killed me, and also this was a very factual video. i'm just now learning about human pups and i still don't know how to feel about them. but honestly they don't hurt me in anyway so i got no problem with them around but more to the point you make a lot of good points on both sides
I saw Cure in one of your selfie shots :D he's a cool character and nice Austin Powers reference, this video was pretty good and I've seen some of your other content before I think but my brain's thick as mud, we might've seen each other this last con even, incredible, oh well I'll keep an eye or 2 out for you this year
Thanks for pointing out that it's not always sexual for us pups! I have a strictly platonic relationship with my handler, and it's ONLY about the headspace and being able to be someone else for a while. Recently I've been intrigued by the furry fandom and how it builds on the same thing. Anyone got any tips for someone who's interested in getting into the fandom? Edit: there are in different breeds within the pup community, and a lot get their hoods/oufits customized for that look. Not all choose to pick a breed, but some do, as some breeds fits their personalities best.
I can just imagine someone on the floor shouting "FEED ME DADDY" in the middle of a dog park.
Arcticsnowfox 😆😆😆
no....they would whine like a dog or tilt their head.....i aint shitting you.
Arcticsnowfox XD
YOUVE HELPED MY ART BLOCK I KNOW WAT TO DRAW NOW!
"PET ME MASTER~"
Petplay is an emotional stress reliever for me. Its not always sexual, it has an emotional value too.
Keep these things apart and don't try to compare them, that only grows more confusion. We as pet players are just as tired of being compared to furries as you are annoyed with us.
Chiyo Jay Lol I'm both, so I get doubly annoyed xD
Same!
@Lucas some of us pups also are furries so we can be there some of us dobt have fur suits so we go in our puppy play outfits
Would never be annoyed by Petplayers. But hey that is my individual view. I guess we are somewhat the same regarding the emotional value/ it beeing a stressrelive. Furries should be calm about Petplayers.
I've done pup play as a stress reliever not sexual at all
I'm also a furry which I came into through cosplay
lmao "im a total fuckboy harness" had me dead
Lmfao. 👌
Same XD
@Hanna Dowling Lmao yup
Oh and it's not just pup play
Cat play,bunny play it's every animal but pup play is the most popular
I just call it the human animals
Or plays so yeah
Oh btw this is not a hate comment
Arkka and Echo The Wolves is there a version with gaz masks too? I always found the idea of wearing a hazmat suit weirdly appealing
Brainbot Jezebel i don't think it's pet play
But I think it's a whole different thing
Arkka and Echo The Wolves they both have latex involved to a point so I assumed...ah nevermind. Sorry for asking
Brainbot Jezebel
Just because it involves latex doesn't make it a type of pet play.
Brainbot Jezebel pony play is just as big I would say! Haven't heard of any others personally!
I like Artemis because he makes good valid points, in a very humorous way. Your awesome dude!
what's a awesome?
Same
I just got linked to this today... but this video has some good points but I still remember his furry vs gamers video.
Tbh i find the look of human pups disturbing. Like idk with fursuits, they have a cutesy look to them that's just kinda, pleasing to see but the human pups are just kinda creepy.
•Ghostly is Your Daddy• ya the first time I learned about human pups I just idk its disturbing to me..
*"Like idk with fursuits, they have a cutesy look to them that's just kinda, pleasing to see"*
I must be seeing all the wrong fursuits then.
WakkaSeta You probably stumble across murrsuits and otherwise sub-par work, then. There's a lot of really nice suits out there that you can tell people poured their heart into making and it paid off.
You folks have not seen the horse people :)
go to Google Images
search "ponyplay"
???
profit
(PS: I'm perfectly fine with them.)
Libert McFrye SCREEEEEEE
I actually found the furry fandom through human pups.I ran into "the secret life of human pups" on social media. Then I googled them, and my classmate looked over my shoulder and said "why r u looking at furries?" , so i looked up furries, and im a furry today. still deciding my fursona
Phoenix Ellis
Same here
Oh wow welcome here :3 hope you enjoy your stay and get inspired by lots of people.
If you also like art then I might as well introduce you to the animation meme community, it's not has good has the furry communities but it has tons of art and lots of furries too. The communication between people has to work but hey just speaking my mind on the matter :p.
Anyways Welcome to your new community!!!
funny thing is. one does not need a fursona. i was a furry for more than 10 years now and still dont have a "fursona" but i do have a few characters
Good for you!
I'm happy you enjoy the fandom!
(Also I find it funny they see us as that)
Fluffy Insanity oh Tru Tru
Oh Christ here we go
New mic sounds good :)
I'm a Christian here. Not saying the ugly way but enough singing tone
I'm just religous, but also pretty certain Christ don't mind .... ^_^
Also, i'm no pup, but i'm also very much into rubber and BDSM ..... and is an otherkin to boot .... and i approve of this, it seems pretty correct as far as things go.
There are other overlap areas, and i probably represent one:
Being kinky, but despite seeing myself as a human-formed cat, i find no point in ignoring my intelligence on behalf of a headspace that i usually do not require ....
Lol I just watched a video about you! :D
I love furrys more thay are flufy
HIYU, that isn't your icon. Please change it to something that you can use.
I think im coing to stop hating on the furry fandom, I mean it's just a community, and, I kinda found fur suits cute in some ways... So yeah, I hope the other dank memers will stop or just calm tf down on the furry community. Like I said, I have a huge respect for the person who made their own fur suit, on that final line, I will stop writing. Peace ✌
The Plague Doctor Good job on being a decent human being
thanks a lot :3
People overreact to much. People have been dressing as animals for years! Are you going to hate on Big Bird because it's something innocent? Nah
I speak for everyone in the fandom when i say Thank you! 😇🐾
I wish I could like your comment, but it's at 69 likes.
The dank meme lords would not be pleased.
Thank you, Artemis. I was nervous about the title but I'm really glad this subject was addressed and that you did your research. I think one of the most frustrating things for a lot of us pups (or bunnies or kitties or any other human pet) is that even furries who are also often critisized for the life they choose to live can be so critical in turn. Thank you for trying to understand.
That's one thing I hate about this fandom, so many of them are hypocritical. They complain about being hated on by non-furries, yet will turn right around and do the exact same to furries with weirder kinks or any other group they deem to be more "cringey" than themselves.
I'm not a human pet but I am in a similar boat(AB), and I think that's one of the most annoying things. even other groups that are very criticized and put down talk down on players. Like human pets and littles/ABs to me seem like even in the outsiders' groups, we're hated on for doing something not that different or much "Worse" than furries or other groups(personally experience this with agere, pups haven't been critical to me even tho ngl i am nervous posting this) Most of them just don't WANT to understand.
Yea, it is quite shocking, at how hypocritical some furries can be. I am a furry and a pup, but when I notice how both communities act towards other fandoms, and groups, I can't help but notice how more accepting and welcoming the pup community is compared to the furry fandom
I'm not a pup but I know quite a few and not all of them are into it for the kink side. I love this video and am so glad you really did some research into the meaning behind it all. I had no problem seeing the pups with their hoods on at MFF, they were all super friendly and liked posing for photos just like the suiters. :)
I also know one or two that wear a hood and maybe a collar, but they just like it for that, I don't think they have an "owner" but they're not exactly looking for one seriously either, heck, when I first saw a pup hood (those simple, neoprene ones), I just thought they looked cool, but yeah, I think you'll come across more lewd pups than you will lewd furries. Still, they can do what they want I guess, and if I ever went to a con, I wouldn't be too mad if some people had a pup hood on, maybe the entire gear and not much clothing would be a little much but... Yeah 😊 and personally, I think fursuits are a lil more snuggly
Much like the furry fandom, most of the focus for human pups is focused on the more eccentric pups, such as what happened with the Channel 4 documentary on us. The media likes to shine a spotlight on the worst of us and give them a bad rep just for the money. And for the people in these comments saying that human pups are cringy or stupid, don't forget that is what most people think of furries, there's no need to be like the people you hate just because someone else or a group of people is different from you. Yeah, most pups find the pup play scene a fetish/kink, but there is no need to make people feel bad about it, that's just what they choose to like, as goes for most NSFW comunities that exist.
Huskan B THANK YOU!
You're on twitter right? With the green hood?
Huskan B Haha no, that must be someone else :P I wish I had a hood tho
lol, just assumed with the names haha
Huskan B lol most places I'm Fafnir, but my twitter is ILoveUmbreon xD
The shade at MFL got me rolling It's so freaking true. Like they just posted two new suits and the freaking heads look EXACTLY the same. Minus the fur colours of course, but they had the same eye shape and expression. Like Jesus at least TRY to different them a little
Hmmm, I have to disagree on the harness. Sometimes they can just look nice, such as on the Dutchies that have no sexual aspect whatsoever.
Not all people into pet play are pups, they can be any species. Kitty and pony play are also very popular. Pup Play just seems to be at the forefront and is a bit older as far as the movement goes. Saying all pet players are pups is like saying all furries are wolves, they're not.
As for the gear aspect, I actually love the feeling of both. I'm a furry with a fursuit and also a human pup with neoprene and leather gear. Fursuits, especially my fullsuit, tend to be hotter and more restrictive, while my neoprene breathes better and I can wear less while still achieving the look I want. Personally, I like the aesthetic of both for different reasons. I like cute and cuddly, but I also like the smooth, closer feel of the rubber/neoprene/leather gear. Both can be very kinky and sexual, or not. It all depends on the person.
I also happen to know some furries with "owners" or packs, who do wear collars outside of their suits as a form of additional character connection or as a show of that ownership or belonging. It really varies from person to person, and with their own levels of immersion.
At least furries look like the damn animals, those human things are scary, cringy, creepy and stupid
The same can be said about a furry. I am a diehard furry but a random person can find us awfully weird for dressing up in a gigantic neon green husky suit
That's what furry haters think of you guys so aren't you just like them saying that
it's Just a sexual fetiche man relax.
I think The Brony fandom it's cringe like fucking hell but I'm okay with it,
some of My friend's are bronys it's just they're thing so just relax!
And btw you are a fucking so you can't say much
we are all fucking cringe.
at worse. most people that stand outside the fandoms to hate everyone inside sees the fandoms as essentially a variation of the human pups so thats a thing to think about when your within a fandom
bruh literally you can say furries are scary, cringy, creepy and stupid too. maybe stop judging lol
This human pups just look really creepy
I wonder how they like this sweating under this leather and all
Like I feel SO stressed when I sweat and this leather is just
I don't know if they like to be or "are" a pup why they wear LEATHER and not fur?
BlueSkyWolf Fish i wear a silk sock over my stump (leg prothesis) and you sweat a lot under it when your skin isn't used to it. Also you need to wash it after use or else it starts smelling. I assume it's the same deal with those leather/latex costumes
Brainbot Jezebel yeah maybe, I just wonder why you wear leather instead of actually FUR if they "are" the pup
BlueSkyWolf Fish it's a BDSM-thing (wearing latex) being a dog is more of a dominance thing aka they want to be treated as dogs, kinda like a master/slave relationship only more specific . They have no intentions to be animals in real live through
Brainbot Jezebel Ah okay, I saw some "documentairs" about the sexual thing about it
But often readed in the comments from pups that it isn't always a fetish. Just wonder what's the non-sexual reason/meaning/intressed this is about
BlueSkyWolf Fish maybe the tight leather feels more like a second skin to them, like a mask just for your whole body and they prefer this experience over a furred animal costume
Furries:
Cute
Friendly
Fluffy
Human Pups:
Nightmare Fuel
Looks Hairless
Only one animal type
Actual pups aren't they only animal type. They're a part of a sub-group of BDSM called pet-play. There are kittens, ponies, wolves, bunnies, etc. But I'll agree they are pretty creepy looking compared to furries.
EJ Callahan did you mean the in the first sentence?*sorry I'm crazy about grammar .-.*
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EJ Callahan some pup accessories are actually really cute, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them and furry accessories^^
Furries: zoophiles in denial
Human pups: zoophiles in denial
Bronies: zoophiles in denial
Enjoying the new mic and this is a great little breakdown of the whole thing, I think what you said about confuzzled works, inclusive of all but so long as they have the personal discretion to perhaps limit the public showing of said kinky stuff until after dark hours.
all of the pups i know who go to furry cons always wait until after dark hours. respect and consent are very important lessons taught in the bdsm/kink community.
omg love your voice. is that your normal voice?
Furryniva it is not his normal voice, but artemis's voice
ok thx. if i made that voice my throut xould hurt how can he survive.sorry if i spell wrong
The guy who appears on screen is him out of suit.
Furryniva oh shit it's a furry gtfo
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Does your voice hurt afterwards talking like that
And I love your voice. It matches your character well in my mind.
Hello
Bryant Fontenot Hello.
Very well said, I fall in to both pups and Furrys, however neither of them are a kink for me
Foamy Arts yeah for me is pup play the fetish side, and furries the funny side. I like wearing my dog mask with human clothes to look anthropomorphic, but i also like running around naked just with mask and tail😂
Foamy Arts not sure what a kink is.. not sure I want to know but.. I also want to be both bc there's a cute funny furry mythical side and a side when I just want to be seen as a doggo and not a human but I'm not sexual in any of it and alot of people would tell you I'm too young to know about that stuff but... Y'know idiots in the comment sections and some vids tend to float around
@@mitt... well, to be fair, if you don't know what kinks are, you probably won't be very good at keeping interaction separated(Like being around non-kink pets and staying away from kink handlers) but I get the sentiment.
Agreed, I'm a pup but it's not a kink for me. I'm a very closed off person, partly because of trust issues and partly because i don't like people. When I'm in my headspace i want to play and cuddle all the time, it essentially tears down that wall i build up
Who else loves Artemis's voice?
Oh god saw this online and the comments comparing them to furrys physicly hurt
Human pups are weird asf
@@oldacct5314 says the furry X'D
@@viktorcordyceps1978 did you not watch the video?
@@oldacct5314 Please just stop picking on them. If you want to be accepted, then you must learn to accept others as long as they're not hurting anybody. Human pups don't hurt anybody so, stop please.
People always assume furries to be a very sexual thing. If anything, the human pups are the ones that are more sexual.
The reason why human pups (or the Bdsm community in general) don't usually go out in public is because of Consent. If we engage in kink (or play) in public, we are violating consent for the unaware people.
Who would win some fluffy bois or... some fetish bois
One likes zoophilia and the other likes bondage. Mix them together for best results.
Jack Nicholson just shut up
Both 😂
@@Bluemountainpeakside yes, cause a whole community fucks animals because we like anthroanimals, learn to get over it and grow up
Definitely the fluffy bois
Found your channel because a friend wanted me to see that my head base pops up in it. Love your speaking style and your voice. I don't sub to many furs but you earned it haha
Your always looking at me aren't you...?
4:10 Telephone!! (I'm sorry in advance but Telephone is like my favorite furry)
90% of people including me agree with you.
This was in my recommended
I LOVE IT
At first I thought it said “Furries vs Human Pigs”. Whoooops...
Like the new mic btw
TehRealCoralSnek they sure look like it
I thought at first it said "puns" instead of "pups"
TehRealCoralSn
TehRealCoralSnek they should be called human pigs
good o'l me plant
That doesn't make sense... -_-
This is probably one of your best videos yet Artemis! Informative and direct yet still very entertaining as usual!! Also The new mic really works well! Good choice and excellent video!
Why are we criticizing Human Pups? That makes us no better than the "Normal" people who criticize Furries.
Oh no not the video. The video was great. I meant everyone in the comments.
Thank you!
Because if there's something people haven't seen a lot or aren't used to seeing, they think it's weird.
GizmoFoxx THANK YOU!
@@batwolfy7044 It is weird, and in some cases, quite perverse. If it was run of the mill, no one would bat an eye. While furries can be nonsexual,human pups whole bases is from the bdsm base. hence the need for collars, leashes and trainers, and why the hoods and other gear are based off the bdsm fetish wear, not the more "cuddly' and anthropomorphic visually appealing / cute fursuits.
I love this guys honesty
One difference not mentioned is that being a pup is a gay male thing, while furries are all genders and all sexualities. I have seen the extremely rare female handler, I have never seen a female pup in the six years that I have been aware of them.
You forgot lemonbrat
Mentallydisturbed llama Wowza, someone logical in the comment section.
Tru for everyone except for me :D
twitter.com/L4DTank101
and lavafox
5:47
Do a little research on Therianthropy. (Not on Wikipedia, it only has the old definition)
I found this channel on recommended after watching the Amazing Atheist. At first I regretted but I enjoy the channel. Not furry personally but your channel is good. Keep it up mate
Can someone tell me where head at 4:16 is from? 😍 It looks gorgeous, also what kind of Hybrid is it?
It is a hybrid of peacock/tiger/deer/dragon and heres a link qarrezel.deviantart.com/art/Viraj-510072164
I also believe it was made by artistic liberty if that is their name
How long is it gonna take someone to gif that you're not so different, you and I" clip?
This was the first video of yours that I had seen and I have really enjoyed your content. I am really glad that I happen to have it come across as a suggested video to watch.
6:42 it's funny to see the doggo free and the little human in leash ^3^
This is my first time watching you, and I tell you what I really really enjoy your content
Hai
Is that intro song from Professor Elemental?? :0 I'm certain I recognise it from somewhere!
well im both furry stuff is more cutsey and fun pup play is more idk warmer and safer (like on emotionly warmer)
What's your intro song? I LOVE IT!!!!^-^
Im a furry and I accept human pups
As a human pup and a furry , I got to say , your really knowledgeable about human pups. Not all of the information was accurate but most of it was for me to tell that you do your research. You just got another subscriber:)
like the video but am seeing a lot of hate and generalising in the comments, so disappointing
Is that Stars playing in the background? Or is it just eerily similar
Can't Furries go for the four legged style as well? I'm pretty sure we can do that, I like both bipedal, and qudrupedal designs, but my character is quadruped. Well, my main character, anyway.
Somebody Of course they can, those suits are called quadsuits but its really a pain in the ass to suit in them. Plus, there arent many makers that are able to build quadsuits and they cost a lot more than „regular“ fursuits
I love the use of Professor Elemental and Steam Powered Giraffe in the background. Also, very informative.
Potato’s are the superior species
Yes
Warning, warning, apostrophe violation!
Ok, ok.
I wear a collar.
A real fucking dog collar.
I'm just a furry.
Not a human pup.
*p l e a s e*
The word you're looking for, by the way, is 'therianthrope'. Derived from the term 'lycanthrope'. Or also, 'zoanthrope'.
It's more complicated than that.
Because you get the therians/otherkin who are claiming they are having involuntary experiences where they percieve themselves entering an animalistic state, and some of them actually 'don't' like that, apparently. Something to do with schizoaffective disorders, or past trauma, or something, that they've conflated with an animal or liminal identity.
Or the ones like me, who are also furry, and who would totes be some kind of cartoonish animagus from the Harry Potter mythos who actually assumes their animal form on top of being totes okay with the human condition and cartoonish anthropomorphs! Just give us the technology! Shapeshifting furry-cyborgs sounds nice!
I actually bumped into a pair of "human pups" in an elevator once at a hotel. Full leather, hoods, chains, locks, the works. It was the most metal thing I'd ever seen anyone wear in public. If cosplaying/fursuiting was a music festival, they'd be Kiss.
do you need a cough drop
Just come across this, have to say that's a very good summary of the differences and similarities, thank you for making a good, solid video that i can reference incase i need to explain it to others :)
I love your vids. I've been binge watching all off them and finally subscribed.
Anyway, I like both the furries ahs human pups. Though I like the fluffy costumes better than the leather ones.
I'm curious, does anyone know the name of the song played in the background? (to me it sounds like an instrumental to a Steam Powered Giraffe song but I can't remember the name)
Nice vid btw!
you should make a static backgorund, the constant movement is making me seriously dizzy,and makes me look at the comments just to rest my eyes.
So, have you thought about writing for either Flayrah or DogpatchPress?
I find the human pup hot.
because I love pet play and collars and leashes and stuff.
You're very clear and thorough with your explanations, and the way you articulate your speach. So-much-so, you remind me of "Thoughty2" a tad.
There were so many Human Pups at MFF
I know this is out of subject but If I may ask how do you maintain your fur so shiny?
Why is this in my recommendations!? I'm not even a furry or whatever a "Human Pup" is.
TheVilla, same. Idk why the fuck this was recommended to me XD
What the fuck is going on with TH-cam?!
Yes you are
TheVilla click "remove video" than click why was this in my recommendation and than see
its recommended because of your profile pic LMAOOOOOOO
First time hearing about human pups. Thanks Artemis, what'd we do without you.
Awesome. I think furries are better than the human pups.
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fnafy the wolf and I think human pups are better than furries :)
Same
They're mostly the same thing. People in denial that need a good dog dick shoved in their holes to satiate all those lies and fake dignity. Once they get past that, they'll no longer be so obsessed with this cosplay crap. Just shove the dog dick in a couple times a day, and they'll be golden.
Jack Nicholson can you just go away lol
You're videos just keep getting better and better!
A very well made video, informative, especially since I never even knew about the Human Pup scene existing. The ending you went with was rather fun too haha. The human pup idea definitely would not be my thing though, I would be straight furry given the choice. ^^ Interesting enough, I dont consider myself a furry, but i do fur suiting professionally ( performing as a character ) You people in the furry community definitely got my respect XD
I am both a furry and a human pup. I wear my pup hood to conventions sometimes and my suit some other times. There are a lot of furry/pups in the fandom tbh.
You are my favorite furry youtuber thank you so much and keep it up
Hi Artemis, I know your probably not gonna read this but where did you get your fur suit from? Thanks
I went to MFF today, and there was a weird amount of Pups there.
I went to MFF. So I saw the mass of pups. It being my first fur con I thought it was the norm. I was a little shocked at first since there were children present I thought it was in bad taste. But I don't attack others for what they enjoy.
The main hotel is connected by a skybridge. And throughout the con there are two lines feeding through it to one side or the other. I just happened to get into that line behind a group of leather pups. I saw many furs reactions as the lines passed. Many scowling looks. One fursuiter giving high fives to the passing line put his hand down for the pups. I tried to high five him as he passed but he kept it down till a few people behind me. So I knew a lot of furs were not a fan of them. However there were also the supporters as well going bark bark as they passed or specifically high fiving them. So they got a mix of both acceptance and disdain.
So its a mix for me. They should be able to enjoy what they enjoy without hate. But I think they could show it in a more private setting where children are not present.
artimis wishfoot cool video as always love your humour too no fucking about direct and to the point like this Essex fox 💕🐺👌
I never really heard about that until now. You did a good job explaining it for some people, like myself, that may have no idea what it is.
I don't get all the hate of you guys. Like petplay isn't bad or “creepy“. It's something we do to relieve stress or be ourself as a submissive. It's most of the time 100% non-sexual too. And yes, pupplay is BDSM, but that doesn't make it in any way weird or creepy. And not all human pups wear a leather/latex/neoprene hood, some wear cute ears and a tail. You all sound like the people who hate furrys. Btw most of the human pups are gay, just like most furrys are gay. Why do you hate on people in your own community (gay community)? I just don't get why.
Btw, I am an asexual female foxplayer (thats another kind of petplay) and I enjoy it. I enjoy myself being a fox for a few hours or just dress up cute in my gear. I am proud about being in foxplay, because it's awesome!
I wouldn't take them too seriously. These guys would suck off a horse or let a dog knot their ass, first chance you give them. They're in no position to shit-talk you. Oh yeah, and some of them like eating shit, too. That's a thing.
Jack Nicholson dude wtf.... I’ve seen you several times today and all you have to say is obscene and ignorant bs.
@@starchaserstudios3752 ummm you do live in a fairytale world full of sparkles, don't you? Some furries are vile and they do do some pretty sick stuff. Not all, but there are some pretty sick people hiding in the community, and they, by and large are the ones who have made it bad for everyone else. jack's obviously got a bee in his bonnet or somewhere even more uncomfortable, but there are furries whose mindspace, or activity range you wouldn't want to find yourself in. If you did, you'd run, and be cringing and possibly vomiting...
Nancy Cousintine I’ve been sexually abused. I don’t live in a fairytale world I just don’t appreciate random people saying vile things to people they don’t know. Trust me I know my fandom, there is always a person whose doing something bad even then, it’s none of your business. You don’t like it, don’t look at it, what people do behind closed doors is no one’s business. Same goes for pornography, if you don’t want to see it, don’t look at it.
Oh god where am i
At TH-cam :) because why not
that Austin Powers ref just killed me, and also this was a very factual video. i'm just now learning about human pups and i still don't know how to feel about them. but honestly they don't hurt me in anyway so i got no problem with them around
but more to the point you make a lot of good points on both sides
You sound like gordan ramsy
I saw Cure in one of your selfie shots :D he's a cool character and nice Austin Powers reference, this video was pretty good and I've seen some of your other content before I think but my brain's thick as mud, we might've seen each other this last con even, incredible, oh well I'll keep an eye or 2 out for you this year
Thanks for pointing out that it's not always sexual for us pups! I have a strictly platonic relationship with my handler, and it's ONLY about the headspace and being able to be someone else for a while. Recently I've been intrigued by the furry fandom and how it builds on the same thing. Anyone got any tips for someone who's interested in getting into the fandom?
Edit: there are in different breeds within the pup community, and a lot get their hoods/oufits customized for that look. Not all choose to pick a breed, but some do, as some breeds fits their personalities best.
Finally I comment I relate to
is the music from this from Steampunk Giraffe?
Rip Nobley
You will be missed
If you don't know who Nobley is
He a human pup that died a couple years ago he died in a car accident
Nobley didn't die in a car accident, he accidentally killed himself while trying to do autoerotic asphyxiation on his own (suffocated)
Zaphod oh I got told he died in a car accident
his boyfriend made a statement about it on his tumblr
Zaphod oh wow
yeah, it's a tragedy
Quick question - is it ok to go out in a pup hood at a con for example instead of a fursuit
Who else isn't a furry and here when they should be asleep
This is honest, hilarious content. 👌🏼😂 I appreciate this video.
- pupplayer.
You sound like a Brit in a fursuit crossed with Filthy Frank.
*_S U B S C R I B E D_*
What was the MFF drama? Someone pls tell me
2:26 - 2:28
HAHAAAAA
Why did you put a picture of Rinn in there? OwO
Furrys are cute
Human pups are creepy
Love your stuff; Your sense of humor is complimented by Artemis' gruff voice. And it's refreshing to see another Ace Furry
Ok I got it Human pups = emo animals
Furries = normal animals
Or funny animals as furries used to be called
Thank goodness for that Zootopia trailer, that’s how I explained to people many many times.
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