Video raises questions about methods at NYC charter school
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- An undercover video of a teacher berating a student at a New York charter school has many wondering if the treatment of students at the school goes too far. The school says the video doesn't tell the whole story. Demarco Morgan has more.
You don't talk to kids like that.
I'm sure as a mom you've said worse...
that happens to us literally all the time, I go to Success academy and I just thought it was normal
@@theaterkid8499No it doesn’t, I’m a actual student unlike you, who is given love from all my teachers, this isn’t a normal way to teaching little kids in SA at all, there’s messed up teachers here but not that messed up, you don’t yell in a students face, knowing the consequences, and still do it.
sounds like she needs to sit in the calm down chair
The little girl was living at a homeless shelter with her mom, she definitely did not need some entitled, neurotic woman making her feel even less safe.
Listening to the “Nice White Parents” podcast too?
@@JoopieSoCute yes!😂😂😂
This is so humiliating. I remember having a teacher like that and all it did was lower my self esteem.
@Kincaid7 Yes, but what this teacher did was NOT AT ALL the “pursuit of intellect”.
This type of behavior does NOT help kids learn.
Let’s set aside for a moment, that the teacher treated a young child absolutely horribly, but she also, in that moment, abandoned her responsibility to help her student learn.
Do you think, after ripping up the child’s paper and yelling at her to go to the calm down chair, it automatically clicked in the child’s mind, and she suddenly understood how to do the math problem?
No, she was left just as lost as she was before, because all the teacher’s actions said was,
“I’m tired of dealing with you, get out of my sight.”
That is not acceptable behavior from any teacher.
Whatever this woman’s problem was, it wasn’t this child, or the others.
She had her own issues of frustration and stress from some other source and was taking it out on her student.
Completely wrong.
I went there in kindergarten
And I hated it😊
I go to success academy, and the teachers are horrible. First off, in my school a teacher talked behind a parents back saying that he/she is ANNOYING. The parent just wanted to know how their child is doing. The homework is nonstop, and I know many other students have a different point of view of Sa, but for my point of view…the teacher on this video accurately describes my teachers 2nd-4th grade.
Hi, I know this video is old but what grade are you in? My son is going to the second grade. I was considering pulling him out?
I don't feel sorry for this horrible individual that they call a teacher.
I'm a teacher's aide and if I feel that I'm witnessing children get disrespected, I'm going to record it.
There's been times when my daughter did her work wrong and I will tell her to erase it and redo it, but I'm not going to rip the paper in front of her face. What do you think that's going to do to my own child if I rip up her work in front of her face because she did it wrong? My child will need years of therapy.
I so agree Viviane,maybe the student doesn't understand the work.
How mean she should get fired😡
Don't ever meet Asian teacher's this is mild lol
Thank god she’s in a charter school, where teachers unions don’t prevent you from firing bad teachers.
@@agonicolethat’s sad
This is 100 percent true I’m going thru this nonsense right now . They should be straight forward if they don’t want specific kids instead of humiliation and suspension’s. Stopping kids from learning more and frustrating the parents until eventually they pull the kids out ahead with a bad record as young as 4 5 years old .
Me too
horrific schools!
They aren't bad schools
Kimberly Ortega yeah I know I go to this school in union square but some do.
@@kimmmnchi They aren't bad if your a parent but for an educator and student it is terrible, trust me I worked here.
@@lorrainefrazier2798 Yeah I used to go to cobble hill
@@KickingIt-In-the-Kitchen I was student at that school. The first year I was treated unfairly. But luckily the teacher left after that all the teachers I got would be kinder.
My son was accepted there, after 1 week I realized right away of how this school really is and took my son out. Luckily he was accepted to another charter school that is not extremely harsh and emotionless to students. Its suppose to be a school for children not military. How come they dont teach the rich like that?
I've been in this school for 10 years why can't my parents do the same lol
She should have never been a teacher!!!
Right? That woman has no patience.
Someone in that video needs the timeout chair and it isn't the kid.
"repeatedly suspended special needs students in an attempts to push them out."
If that's true....I just don't know what to say.
It’s absolutely true! charter schools are not in it for the students! They’re in it for the money
It definitely is. I am a special ed teacher at a public school and I get a lot of kids in the middle of the year who were kicked out of charter schools
I will say this, I have a IEP for ADHD, I take medicine and this comment Is correct, even my mom has taken notice and brought this notice to the SA Board. I have been a victim of these actions, when teachers have repeatedly ask me about what I’ve read yesterday In comparison to my Reading Reports, indicating a guess of plagiarism every time.
That's crazy they denied my autistic child. Never understood why
Here from ‘Nice White Parents’. I can’t even watch it: listening was bad enough. I’m a teacher and this is not ‘a teacher having a bad day’. You might be a bit less patient or a bit less gentle when that is the case, but nothing like this.
Me too, I love that programme 🙏
I know this a long time, but I'm in 8th grade been in this school my whole life. This school teaches you so much made so better, and all the teachers are sweet. That is someone were to say something disrespectful they would leave. Not only that stop having one person actions paint the thing.
My kids just started there and im so disappointed with this school already. They dont care about the kids emotionally. They punish kids for everthing. My daughter got a bad conduct on the second day of school for stretching her legs when she became uncomfortable with having her legs crossed siting on the carpet. At dismissal they have the kids sit on the dirty school yard. You wait on a long line at dismissal only to get to the front of the line and see that your child is not with his class.,you have to pick them up from the main office for if your child did not finish class work that is timed. They want robots, not kids. This is a military reform school.
😮😮😮😮 I'm so curious about this school they constantly post commercials
@@krystingrant6292I go here the commercials are lying😭💀
Let's take a PLEDGE!!!
TEACHER ARE NOT WRONG WAS NOT RIGHT!!!
TEACHER ARE NOT WRONG WAS NOT RIGHT!!!
TEACHER ARE NOT WRONG WAS NOT RIGHT!!!
TEACHER ARE NOT WRONG WAS NOT RIGHT!!!
Let's cheer up!!!
This is shocking? The teachers in my public schools in the 1990s treated us like that. They would tear up homework in front of the whole class if it wasn't done right, yell, throw things, get frustrated if we didn't understand, etc. It was pretty regular. These weren't poor schools, these where schools that took care of their teachers and were desired by many to work there.
I agree.
My teachers were worse than this video but it still doesn't excuse this teachers behaviour.
That’s school for every Asian kid in Asia, and I’m not joking. How else you think we are 2-3 years more advance in math than Americans?
Doesn’t make it ok
@@potatodarCounterpoint: Yes it does.
This was my kindergarten teacher. I remember her being like this
Kindergarten?? thats scary
@Da Feesh i dont remeber this since she wasnt my teacher at that point. i moved onto higher grades but yes it was in cobble hill and i remeber lots of talk around the school about this incident. I dont remeber if i had gon to bedstuy1 for middle school or if i was still in cobble hill but the parents talked about this
She shouldn't be in the classroom. The only reason the teacher is crying in that video is because she sad she got caught. This is inexcusable behavior. No one should be treating kids this way. No one. They said that rip and redo is supposed to make them do better. When in reality, it makes kids lose confidence in themselves, and makes themselves feel useless.
this is exactly how they teach. its gross.
went to success academy for 8 years, ended up getting diagnosed with ptsd.
I remember my teacher did that to me in first grade and I felt so dumb after poor kid
I was a nanny of a kid , who was her student . On pick up , Ms Dial for a whole year , NEVER made eye contact with me . Never !!! Always with a snob , superior persona . I was not surprised at the time , when this happened . She never gave me a good impression . Kids are raised by their care givers too , if you can’t take
Nanny’s / babysitters seriously because of hierarchy; you are not a good person and teacher
I get that we teachers get frustrated at times yet I watch this video over and over again to remind myself that if I allow my frustration to get the best of me, this is how I could end up and I’m afraid to become like this. I get at times we teachers have to be harsh but this is bullying and to express stress levels when we should be teaching students how to cope with theirs is like being a hypocrite and that scares me bad!! This video scares and disturbs me because I don’t want to be that teacher.
What a nightmare. I was tough on my kids but not at age 6 and not as a matter of control.
Teacher should be encouraging kids at that age not embarrassing them in front of whole class coz this will lower their self esteem n moral n confidence forever not every student is so smart to grab what teachers r teaching some may beed one on one ..
Take this from a student, the school is not the greatest. Since ive gotten there i feel like there is an immense expectation on the kids and how everyone should be on the same page and same level in terms of there reading levels and academic levels when everyone is super diffrent. And a lot of the times teachers change. Along with every year there is less and less minorities amoungs the teachers and more and more white teachers. The school is not the greatest dont recomend
my little brother did a spelling mistake and his assistant teacher yelled at him and threw his book on the floor making him stand up and pick his book and sort it himself
Damn that’s so wrong
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I just want to say that this so called teacher actually taught my son and he went through a horrible experience. She should not be teaching! To this day if I ever see her I have a few things to say to her.
It obviously wasn't a one off otherwise the teaching assistant wouldn't have bothered filming. It looks like a pattern of behaviour, and even if it was a one off, eff that, treating people like that is not acceptable. I hope the parents of that child got a personal apology, and that the teacher is considering another profession.
Serves her right. Teachers have a JOB to make sure these kids are well-respresented. That these kids get the education they deserve, not lowering and wearing away their self-esteem by the day. That's disgusting.
I had a teacher like this in 2nd Grade. She was just as bad as this teacher in this video. What a shame that there are teachers out there who exist and don’t care for their own students.
I’ve been going to that school since kindergarten and this school is very strict but this school has honestly taught me so much and I have so many good memories here
I chose not to send my daughter to Success Academy.
I can say that this is not the only charter where some teachers engage in this practice. I have witnessed teachers in another charter do the same thing. ‘Rip and Re-Do’ is very common in some classrooms in charter schools. I think parents need to understand that not every charter school teacher is an excellent teacher, being in a charter school does not necessarily mean that your student will get the best education. This is also true of traditional public schools, not all of them are bad, most traditional public schools have high caliber teachers. I know there’s a push for charters in NYC and don’t get me wrong, I am not saying charters are bad, I am saying they are not perfect. Parents must do their homework and understand their child’s needs and also keep an eye on their children whether they are in charter or traditional public schools.
I also want to put this out there, the notion that some charter schools have that they are better than public schools is not correct. I have experienced both worlds and I can say that there are public schools out there that are being more innovative than some charters. The bottom line is that no school is perfect and as parents we need to ensure that we do our homework and also that we keep our schools (whether charter or traditional public school) accountable.
My parents are both teachers and they believe that Charlotte Dial’s behavior is a fireable offense.
Kincaid7 It doesn’t matter. It still doesn’t give her the right to treat that child the way she did.
It wasn't. This is pervasive throughout the whole culture, across many schools, many networks. Period. This is not a one off
I feel bad for the girl. She's scarred for life.
It’s better than getting smacked on the hand with a ruler by a nun for giving an incorrect answer ... just saying
Both are wrong though
As a teacher this is disgusting to watch. She needs to emotionally regulate herself
Why TF is success academy still open
I remember a teacher doing this to me in this school Lmaoooo
If she was black she would have been fired
This teacher did get fired
everybody she was the best teacher you could ever have she was my first grade teacher she was the best don't yell at her for doing stuff wrong she did nothing wrong she's amazing strong beautiful teacher and she will always be the best if you guys had her as her teacher you would realize how good she is and how amazing she is you guys are all wrong about her love you Miss dial if you see this
You might have had good experiences with her, but that does not mean she can do no wrong, or negate the way she treats others. Please do not think that the behaviour in this video is acceptable at all. She humiliated the child, and took out her own anger and bad feelings on another person. That's not ok, and I hope you recognise that and never accept that for yourself.
I used to go to that charter school don't go their it will ruin your mental health
I was there during the situation you guys don't understand are class was misbehaving somuch and if you were here you would have gotten frustrated like her so you guys better stop saying these lies and telling saying and she's horrible she's not she's amazing she literally taught me how to become an amazing reader and be able to be so good in that so you guys are bad don't say she was bad you guys are bad
Bruh she literally "ripped" a child's work in front of their face and made them sit down in the calm down chair for no reason.
Poor little girl That mean women! I am so glad that poor sweetheart ok
That is disgusting! That’s no way to teach at all. Humiliation will not motivate a child to learn.
I've been in this school since kindergarten. It's 9th grade now and just as bad
I’m fact I was in this class wasn’t here this day but I would get yelled at constantly for not doing something
I’m a lil late to the party lmao but does anyone know if that teacher apologized to that student or her class for going off in them?
That’s success for you.
This unfortunately happens all too often, especially in urban schools. I attended a title one school back in the 90s that was approximately 80% black, and while I rarely experienced that level of discipline, the black students did. “Rip and redo” as the teacher calls it in this video was the norm. When my parents pulled me out of that school and moved out to the suburbs for a better education, the difference in how the teachers approached the students, even the most poorly behaved ones, was striking. People wonder why these kids become so emotionally hardened when they grow up and have a strong disdain for authority figures...smh.
No accountability. No oversight. Don’t play by the same rules. Disgusting
It’s scary I go to that school
If the school is not the right one for your child go to the other one. I have my older son in this school and I highly agree with the way of teaching. How about my younger son , I will search for him a different school that fits to his abilities. We have a lot of parents who don’t spend one minute with their children at home doing homework and blame the school for low performance . So ridiculous!
Devils and Demons is what it is, there is no place for this in a child's school. No wonder violence is in the schools, show kindness toward the children. They are children not in a military School.
how did someone get a video of this?
The teacher’s aid was filming it with her phone
Do you want to look at my school?
Success Academy still sucks. Kids can't even go to the bathroom when it's not recess.
This person should not be back in the classroom.
bruh i was there it was crazy
I just worked 6 months at a charter school where the culture is very much taking too firm of a tone even with kindergarten students. I do my best to use kind words because nobody absolutely nobody deserves this. I refuse to bend if a school system says I should embarrass or belittle a child.
I bet she drinks Starbucks and lives in a multi use apartment
Man, tear up my work, I would've cussed her out.
Omg ik it was from nyc, I can tell by the uniform wow smh
That’s some humble pie for her she seems mean she will think about what she does next time . Assistant teacher she doesn’t have her stuff all together yet please she needs to go
I go to that school it is not like that
Bro that's literally what happened in every SA school
I would know since I was there
I went to success academy for five years and those were some of my best years of life.just because one teacher was not good does not mean the whole business wasn’t either. This is the most diverse and loving school I know so don’t take it out on the rest of the corporate.
My little closing goes there
THATS MY OLD CLASSROOM AFTER THIS SHE ACTED SO NICE AND WAS PROMOTED 🤣
It’s just that very incdent the rest of the school shouldn’t be punished like that
Charter schools are awful shut them down! I thought public schools were bad since I was raised there so I put my daughter in Voice Charter School in Queens, awful immature teachers who are alcoholics and my daughter was attacked in their school and they watched for 10 minutes!!!! They even asked her, her race on international day and she said she was 2 races Puerto Rican and Italian in which they laughed and told her to pick one, my daughter, being smarter than them said I am BOTH, so they put her with the Italians because they said her skin is white?!?!?!?! Needless to say she's homeschooled now!
I went to that school before now I’m in a different school
I'm glad you got out of that school. Sounds like a horrible place to work or learn.
@@maryannnardelli1756 actually SA system has performed the best among schools in NYC for several years. There's a waiting list to attend it.
Thats unfortunate
Where is the blame on the parents!?
for what? Making a counting mistake in 1st grade? There was no reason for the teacher to yell like that. It was a 1st grade student and they weren't even being disrespectful back
If that's the culture that leads to high performance, so be it. Better than the culture that exists in low performing schools.
Ah yes, let’s give our kids anxiety during a time in which grades don’t matter. Because my performance in elementary school was definitely the deciding factor for MiT’s admission team. 🙄🙄
Does anyone here know the teachers name?
What does that matter?
Norma Rodriguez she looked like one of my teachers lol. But I figured out her name by watching the first part of the video TvT I’m dumb
Very Dissaponting Espically to The top best kind of schools . The Teacher should be fired! Thats not how teachers should behave not even my children's teacher ever did from K-3 and K-2 THIS IS A SHAME
I think being tough on kids is needed sometimes. But when you treat a child harshly with the intent to teach them to do better, you are also teaching them that this is the way things are done. That if he/she is not happy with a service/job they are supposed to throw the plate at the wall or belittle. We are already in hard times with children being raised by people who don't care what they do. We need teachers who teach children how to engage with the rest of society. To be brave but kind. To believe in their abilities. If children are taught that they are imbeciles then that is what they know. Or perhaps that is the whole point.......
That was my kindergarten teacher
Really? Did she do that sort of thing a lot? I've read other articles that said the principal loved her because of how mean she was and would send other teachers to her class to learn how to discipline students
Im actually in winthrop school elementary and i have never see this in my school go to the news will that's actually cool
I go to that school, but middle school
NY Times that explains it all lol.
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7 years late, but it’s funny how the issue today is that the students rule the roost. I remember a decade ago the issue was that teachers have too much power, teacher unions were too powerful, etc. Now we have a 180 issue where teachers are borderline powerless, students can do whatever and not suffer real consequences, and teachers are leaving the profession in droves. Did there used to be problems a decade ago? Yes. But the problems now are such that even good kids get lost in the sauce when all the attention in class is on the disruption caused by 1 or 2 kids whose parents have even given up.
This is very normal in India 😂
I GO THERE NOW
I'm completely confused. I've been scrolling through the comments and I've seen several posts by current or former Success Academy students. The absolutely ludicrous thing is every single comment by them is a complete grammatical mess. I'm literally reading with my mouth open lol.
I am a public school teacher and I sometimes get kids who were kicked out of charters (yes some specifically from Success Academy). When I attempt to gauge their levels in a middle school classroom, I almost always find that they are several grade levels behind. Then, when I check these students' academic records, I see many of them somehow scored high marks on their state tests the year prior; suggesting they were either given the answers or the answers were changed without them knowing. That's what charters do so they can keep their funding even if they are not helping students.
@@MP-ef9yo Based on what I've read, and not only on this post, I'm inclined to believe you, smh
@@MP-ef9yo Uh what? I’m a ongoing Success Academy Student at Lafayette Middle School, 8th Grader, by the way. This comment has confused me, now even us at this school question the eligibility of these state test scores, such success academies like Hudson Yards, for some reason have exceptional consistency to getting high scores, but from my experience we are taught in a very overwhelming but formal way, and we are not given answers, I haven’t and anyone else at this school haven’t, crazy thing I seen this, my math state test was a day ago, but this comment is not true to some extent in question.
@@sincere4369 I am not sure I fully understand your comment. There are many grammatical errors and your word choice is either vague or unclear in several places. If that is a sample of your writing as an 8th grader and you are getting high test scores, then something is not adding up. Also the NY state math test is not until April 26 this year. Schools must give it that day and cannot change it. If you were told that your math state test was yesterday then either you do not have the right information or again, something is not right.
@@MP-ef9yo Oh sorry, I missed myself, I repeat. We have a series of test called Dress Rehearsals, we take these tests as a example of a state test to prepare the students for the actual test, and also I’ve seen other comments by you, are you in any way of a teacher, do you have a LinkedIn page of any sort? From what I’ve seen from your comments have confused me. You are accusing SA for many things, such as making fake facts, and also you saying we get answers is insanely offensive to all the teachers who work insanely hard to make sure that, us students are given the right teaching to pass a state exam, I’m guessing you don’t understand SA Teaching, due to you being a Public School teacher, and also I write like that online, only if it’s a non-school related place like TH-cam.
I´m in success Bronx 3 middle school and this is very helpful and are very kind to others idk what school this is
I fully support this teacher get it done girl teach these kids
I seriously hope that’s a joke.
@@sexykitten0814 nope that teacher cares enough to make a kid fix his mistake better a ripped up paper than a rap sheet
nicoleago That is NOT how a teacher “cares” or helps a student “fix a mistake”.
What that woman did was NOT teaching, it was bullying and intimidation.
That does not help anyone learn, especially a child, it only humiliates them and makes them feel badly about themselves.
It makes them feel incompetent, as if they are being disobedient and disappointing others, and not want to keep trying to learn.
Being a teacher requires patience and professionalism.
This teacher did not exhibit that, and clearly, the school agreed her actions were unacceptable for a teacher, thus the reason she faced disciplinary action.
When a child gets a wrong answer, a teacher patiently and calmly explains why her answer is incorrect, and shows her how to do it correctly, continuing to have her keep trying until she understands the right way to do it, not punishing her as if she’s doing something wrong by not understanding.
You think ripping up a child’s paper, and yelling at her to go to the “calm down chair”
(A place the teacher apparently needs to be herself!), as if she has misbehaved, when she hasn’t, is doing ANYTHING whatsoever for teaching her how to do the work the right way?
Do you think the child will just magically realize how to do the work the right way because the teacher lashed out at her and berated her for not understanding how to do a math problem?
No, the child is still going to be just as confused on how to do the work, and on top of that, will now not want to learn or seek help from her teacher when she’s having difficulty, for fear she will be treated this way again.
You want to talk about a rap sheet?
This type of behavior from a teacher is just as likely to end in that, as not correcting a child’s incorrect answer in the first place.
The woman not only treated a child horribly for no acceptable reason, but in that moment, she also essentially abandoned her job as a teacher to help her student learn how to do work correctly.
This was completely unacceptable from a teacher.
@@sexykitten0814 don't ever get an Asian teacher my 11 year old has definitely had his work thrown out for not having self discipline. Guess what it doesn't break them they stand up fix their mistakes and do better. No wonder Asian teacher's get better results your teachers don't care. They aren't friends they're the kids superior. I am glad my son knows he will be called out for poor work.
@@agonicole The only problem with what you said is that this is teaching them how to be a person that takes orders and can never make a mistake but an entrepreneur ability too succeed is predicated on his/her ability to consistently make mistakes and be ok with it because they know they will eventually figure it out.
What the teacher is displaying here is that mistakes are not ok and that if you learn slower than the rest of the class you are just dumb and might as well remove yourself from the rest of the class
Instead of saying hey i see that you are struggling with this so let me get the parents on board to help her with the homework at home so she can have extra tutoring time or if the parents don't seem to be on board let me speak too my higher ups too see if we can arrange something to get her more help
Or
You know what i have an assistant teacher right here in the classroom (which was the one who secretly recorded this video)
So let me ask the assistant teacher to sit with this particular student seperate from the class so she can have extra help to catch up with the rest of the class
If a teacher only knows how to berate a child and basically throw a fit
They are not qualified to be a teacher as they have forgotten they are there to solve a problem which is to take uneducated children and make sure they end the year educated
If they have to result too berating a child like your asian teachers do they are creating employees or factory workers who only know how to take orders instead of independent children who are self sufficient because somebody had the patience to teach them how to fish for themselves
Wow
They just want money out of parents pockets.
That's a LIE. My child has been in this school since 1st grade, she's in 10th grade now in their high school. I have NEVER paid for anything. They even give the kids Macbooks for free to do their work. Regular public school doesn't provide that.
Let’s just remember, Success Academy is BY FAR the best performing school in all of New York. The majority of it’s students are Black and Hispanic, yet the perform better on standardized tests then wealthy white neighborhoods. Although the teacher was a bit harsh, the idea is that we need to expect high standards for minorities. No more coddling. I stand by this teacher.
We need more of this. Maybe a little more physical punishment too. We didn’t talk back to our teachers and we respected them when I was in school. We also had some hard corpse principles that kept everyone in line.
Sometimes kids need reality. The world isn’t a pretty place. Natural human reactions can be hurtful. I wouldn’t be able to be rough on my kid even if I wanted to. So I feel a certain extent of it in a controlled environment is acceptable. Not as a regular practice of course.