❤ replay gang. Bless up the whole panel and chat. I absolutely enjoy listening The difference in opinions. Even though I don’t agree with most of the panelists or chat. I don’t like echo chambers
Yesterday was the test for the outcome of the 10th to the 14th.. and the bosses looking at the play out of the deck. Issac opening people eyes 👀 cause he really could wait but it’s another door open that nobody but Issac and the privil counselor see and know.. so no schooling gwaaan for the judge.. it boils down to one or the other..
It was not a bail hearing. It was a habeas corpus application. There was no way the exercise was going to be successful; for the conviction was quashed (overturned) and simply is back at the stage where they were first charged. The charges against the men were neither dismissed or withdrawn by the privy council, hence why the habeas corpus application was an exercise in futility. The only ruling that were possible is the ruling arrived at by the judge. As it stands now, the court of appeal will have two considerations. 1) either they (the accused men) make a plea deal or 2) there will be a retrial ordered by the court of appeal judges, it is the only way forward!
I hardly agree with Mr. Vegas but his argument is valid this time around. The legal terms Charge, Trial and Verdict are all different. Kartel was never freed of charges. The Privy council decided the trial was corrupted by juror misconduct. They never quashed charges. They sent it back to the Jamaican Appeal Court to decide on either a new trial or release the defendants. The Privy Council could have dismissed the case completely instead of sending it back to the jamaican courts.
@@IMHOTEP360DEGREES when dealing with matters of LAW it is a must to use the correct terminology. The courtroom jargon is not and must not be flippant at no time at all.
@@IMHOTEP360DEGREES Brethren it is not about dictating how anyone should speak. We must endeavour to use the proper words to describe or convey what we intend to mean by what we say. To do this we must be precise with our words. Now Isat made a lot of talk about the process he embarked on with the habeas corpus application. He as a lawyer made many statements that has caused much confusion among most who are not versed in how the judicial process operates. You recall at he made mention that the decision of the privy council has placed his clients in ABEYANCE; giving the impression that the men were being held unlawful; he knew or ought to have known this statement was flawed, likewise all is other pronouncements were disingenuous. As I have stated in another comment; he knew the whole exercise was pointless and as such he was schooled, on the varying aspects judicial process applicable to case in question. So no you and everyone on this panel (no disrespect intended) must inform y’all selves on so many areas of the law, so that when conversing on matters of such there is no mistaken or misplacing of terms, you are all indirectly educating the public, so it must be precise with clarity!
As far as me see you have somebody on this a rejoice over a next man downfall none off us not perfect and everybody deserves a second how boy up ya a rejoice fi man inna lock up you weak and bow out and no have no courage real yute never rejoice pon nobody who da a wuk house
nobody rejoicing its just a arena of opinions and ideas, by your logic would you give Hitler a second chance? your probably emotionally connected to the artist..and you might express them same emotions and they come across very desperate but let the courts work bro.. it's either that or chaos zeen
Any of you guys ever been locked up if anyone of you gets that experience I will be a different talking about kartel situation it very hard for him June tenth is very long time for him
Oh, a gentleman on the panel said the defence attorney is a criminal (first) and an attorney (second-criminal attorney) while saying that makes him very smart. But I’m sure he didn’t take into account that the gentleman was not a smart criminal (caught twice doing the same crime). So by the panelist logic he should be a dunce “criminal”-“lawyer”.
@@blacklight3596 we both understand where you’re coming from but when it’s timed stamp it gives other people who engages the clarity of your argument. Bless up
❤ replay gang. Bless up the whole panel and chat. I absolutely enjoy listening The difference in opinions. Even though I don’t agree with most of the panelists or chat. I don’t like echo chambers
Real talk . Bless up 👏🏿
Well said Mr Vegas. You are a well intelligent man. Full of knowledge on good understanding
Bless up and respect ✊
This is really good to learn
Respect and bless up 👏🏿👏🏿
Who has the youtube link to the privy counsel hearing
Blessing each and everyone on the panel 🙏
Manners and respect ✊
Does anyone on the panel has a recording of the privy counsel decision
It’s public knowledge
Ones and ones family greetings
Manners and respect ✊
Yesterday was the test for the outcome of the 10th to the 14th.. and the bosses looking at the play out of the deck. Issac opening people eyes 👀 cause he really could wait but it’s another door open that nobody but Issac and the privil counselor see and know.. so no schooling gwaaan for the judge.. it boils down to one or the other..
So if it’s only isat and the privy council knows about it how you know ? Bless up
This was a good build 😂😂
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It was not a bail hearing. It was a habeas corpus application. There was no way the exercise was going to be successful; for the conviction was quashed (overturned) and simply is back at the stage where they were first charged. The charges against the men were neither dismissed or withdrawn by the privy council, hence why the habeas corpus application was an exercise in futility. The only ruling that were possible is the ruling arrived at by the judge. As it stands now, the court of appeal will have two considerations. 1) either they (the accused men) make a plea deal or 2) there will be a retrial ordered by the court of appeal judges, it is the only way forward!
Well said . Bless up 👏🏿
How much it cost to setup this equipment imotep?
To estimate a cost is subjective. Just look at what you gonna use and the price for your devices . Bless up
I hardly agree with Mr. Vegas but his argument is valid this time around. The legal terms Charge, Trial and Verdict are all different. Kartel was never freed of charges. The Privy council decided the trial was corrupted by juror misconduct. They never quashed charges. They sent it back to the Jamaican Appeal Court to decide on either a new trial or release the defendants. The Privy Council could have dismissed the case completely instead of sending it back to the jamaican courts.
Bless up
It is not a verdict, it was a ruling!
My thumbnail said it very clear as well and the conversation was about a decision by the court . That’s majoring in the minor . Bless up
@@IMHOTEP360DEGREES when dealing with matters of LAW it is a must to use the correct terminology. The courtroom jargon is not and must not be flippant at no time at all.
@@cognitionup5211 we’re not in court still nor can we dictate how people speak . That’s the difference
@@IMHOTEP360DEGREES Brethren it is not about dictating how anyone should speak. We must endeavour to use the proper words to describe or convey what we intend to mean by what we say. To do this we must be precise with our words. Now Isat made a lot of talk about the process he embarked on with the habeas corpus application. He as a lawyer made many statements that has caused much confusion among most who are not versed in how the judicial process operates. You recall at he made mention that the decision of the privy council has placed his clients in ABEYANCE; giving the impression that the men were being held unlawful; he knew or ought to have known this statement was flawed, likewise all is other pronouncements were disingenuous. As I have stated in another comment; he knew the whole exercise was pointless and as such he was schooled, on the varying aspects judicial process applicable to case in question. So no you and everyone on this panel (no disrespect intended) must inform y’all selves on so many areas of the law, so that when conversing on matters of such there is no mistaken or misplacing of terms, you are all indirectly educating the public, so it must be precise with clarity!
CONTINUE PUTTING OUT THE KNOWLEDGE..
Nuff respect for the words of encouragement 👏🏿
Veagas you correct they went with the intension to dismiss the case and done, not for bail.
They made a fatal error in judgment based on this logic. Bless up
As far as me see you have somebody on this a rejoice over a next man downfall none off us not perfect and everybody deserves a second how boy up ya a rejoice fi man inna lock up you weak and bow out and no have no courage real yute never rejoice pon nobody who da a wuk house
We’re not here to police people’s opinions. We can agree or disagree so someone saying something doesn’t mean everyone agrees
nobody rejoicing its just a arena of opinions and ideas, by your logic would you give Hitler a second chance? your probably emotionally connected to the artist..and you might express them same emotions and they come across very desperate but let the courts work bro.. it's either that or chaos zeen
@@10questionsJamaican real talk . The ones dem nuh understand how the platform works
Why trial the case again isn't This double jedouble jeopardy 😂😂😂
Let’s see what happens in June that’s where it is
No it is not double jeopardy. Go read Section 16 (9) of the Jamaican constitution you will get more clarity!
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Any of you guys ever been locked up if anyone of you gets that experience I will be a different talking about kartel situation it very hard for him June tenth is very long time for him
That’s a valid point still but the law is gonna take precedence. Bless up
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Mr Vegas big in the jlp 😂😂😂
What proof you have to say that ?
Not true it’s a criminal lawyer that got caught twice doing the same crime ……… not the sharpest tool in the shed
It’s recommended to time stamp your comments cause it adds more clarity and context . Bless up mi general 👏🏿
Oh, a gentleman on the panel said the defence attorney is a criminal (first) and an attorney (second-criminal attorney) while saying that makes him very smart. But I’m sure he didn’t take into account that the gentleman was not a smart criminal (caught twice doing the same crime). So by the panelist logic he should be a dunce “criminal”-“lawyer”.
@@blacklight3596 we both understand where you’re coming from but when it’s timed stamp it gives other people who engages the clarity of your argument. Bless up
@@IMHOTEP360DEGREES understood brother (will have to watch a yt video and learn to do it)
Sry eggo