Echo, thank you for testing this rift exploit. I’d been seeing people leaving after they enter the rift. Now I am wondering if we can do another test. The people that enters the rift and then leave, we kick them out of our group before we kill the boss. Do they still get the reward? I have a clanmate that will kick them out because they are not contributing to the game.
hi bro, let me explain why they (bots) do that. there is no cheating the system by doing that. let's try to pull back what susan did, they sold platinum, platinum was obtained from selling leg gems, leg gems were obtained from elder rift. they hijacked someone's credit card to buy 15000 orbs and with that they bought about 93 purple leg crest, and do about 9 rounds with 10 purple Leg crest The problem is how can a character with level 20-23 be strong enough to run Elder alone? if they do it will certainly take a long time, on the other hand they need level 25 to be able to access the market, so susan needs help right? susan doesn't have the strong character to carry At this moment, Susan uses a bot instead of using humans to do the elder run, with a bot of course they can do it automatically then why do they just wait in front of the portal and will come out after a few seconds and wait in front of the elder rift? because if they set the bot to go forward and run the elder rift until it's finished, of course it will be risky to kill the character, and will mess up the bot program they made, so they set it as simple as possible and still get the results from the 10 leg crest with minimal risk outside so when Susan's crew woke up in the morning they found that the character had around 90 leg gems to sell, the character was already level 25 or above from what i know, they also use a program to create email and password to register, and play manually until the westmark quest opens, just enough until westmark opens to run elder rift and market. therefore the char only reaches around level 20-22, of course they can't make a long time to raise the char to be able to run elder rift itself. on the other hand platinum orders are waiting, there are only 2 days to buy the familiar that the customer sells as a platinum transaction tool. so selling leg gems as quickly as possible and as cheaply as possible is the key to the success of the transaction on the other hand they are also racing against time, when the owner of the credit card they use, makes a denial of a transaction that the credit card owner did not make, which will cause the character to be banned by blizart. because there is nothing they can do if that happens and have to repeat the process from the beginning
Also, and again, Fractured Plane's rewards aren't awful, they're just 'hidden' in the event's page. Don't let it slip (again?) and actually do it at least ONCE, and you'll see the Mysterious 3x Legendary items and 1x set items show up below the first rewards. You can actually do the 'whole' event in 2 runs, if you want the event currency, but if you only want half the currency BUT also the mysterious equipment, you can do it ONCE, without dying more than 1x times, and within 30 minutes (of the internal timer, that you can see when scrolling to the bottom of the left info panel, once inside).
Actually the rift run is not the cheat. The bots will sell the unbound gems on low prices then use their platinums to buy the overpriced items their main account is selling. Then delete the bot account and call the card provider to refund their transaction.
You get the loot OR you get the crests. You dont get both. Why would anyone think that? Wow you cannot seem to grasp what is going on. Botters are using multiple accounts on multiple devices at once. They queue in. Enter rift. Leave via purple portal. Stay in party. Get the loot mailed to them. Meanwhile, they are queuing in another account on another device. They do multiple runs at the same time in multiple accounts on multiple devices. It saves their time, makes them more efficient bczthey dont have to physically run the rift. If you leave party or get kicked BEFORE THE RIFT ENDS, you get your crests back in the mail. You never get the loot AND get your crests back. This is not rocket science. I have no idea why you are struggling so hard with this. 😂😂😂
So I talked to one of the farmers this morning. What the hack is if you enter and leave but stay in party you get the embers for the runs but don't use your crests. I got offered 50k plat to run 3 of them thru 19 rifts.
So what's happening is they're selling platinum on websites. Their method is that they will go in and run Rifts then sell all the gems for minimum price to sell them quickly then they will buy familiars from the person who paid them for Max price and after the transaction they refund the credit card to get all their money back.
It's not cc charge back unless they have hundreds of credit cards. And there is still a fee you pay after your first one to most credit card company's, like a bounced check . Most cc companies win my let you do it more than once or twice a month.
Hey Echo, you missed that you did get 10 gems back, and you even got gems for the low lvl crests. 10 chest used ((7 of them low lvl silver) and received 10 gems. Looks like a good deal.
I got the gems from the run but I also lost teh crests I used... so what is the value there. Its the exact same as running the full rift. No cheat there.
What are you even on about how did he miss any gems keep playing as day said he got his 10 legendary gems Even got a frozen heart out the deal two out of five but I mean frozen heart nonetheless definitely good gem power
You should leave without moving or killing any monsters. I had encountered that situation in which I mistakenly clicked on elder rift with 2 3 red crests, then escaped from that rtw. In return, I received the crests.
It’s probably just so they don’t have to run all the way to the chest to collect and risk getting 1 shot or waste time running. They can just go out and queue up for the next soon as they rift ends
malaga, you don't understand anything. Fuerteventura and platinum are the same. what are you saying if you don't know anything about it bueno vista cikelatci
the only way I could see the gem bug working is you leave the rift at the begin. I do believe that what they do and you wait for others to leave the party. When you leave it should mail you, if its real.
This so easy i wrote to them many times in support i hope someone can write to them too.. ! Just freeze the trade of the fresh dropped gems 48 hours and the refund process will be killed. This will not harm spenders.
What else is killing the game besides some not moving to the Elder Rift similar happens with Conqueror some just enter the game and don't move until the end of the game
sir it's not working like that when network error occure or game shutdown by itself then crest will return to you it happend with me the crest was returned to me
Think about it echo, They know what we’re talking about They know when people use a certain type of controller You think they don’t know about the bots? And considering the last big update Destroyed the markets ONLY for us players (not the bots) It’s clear that blizzard is ok with the bots as long as it makes a profit for the company. No matter what it does to our gaming experience
I wonder who keep giving advice to Echo. That's like the most hilarious "hack strategy" I ever heard and probably only one or two people came out with that. Echo probably never read actual comments on TH-cam explaning about the plat farmer. Or this video is just a clickbait lol. And it works
Echo, good morning. Every time the bots exit the elder because it ADDS to the pity counter. Every 50 external or legendary crests is guaranteed a 5* gem. So every 5 elders, those bots get a guaranteed 5* gem. Real players need to finish the rift to count towards the pity counter. I don't encourage people to do this
@@fivestartka1because on Monday the server paragon level goes up by 10. Therefore if echo is above paragon level he’s getting for example -30% experience if he were to turn in on Sunday . But if he waits until Monday now he gets 100% experience etc.
Is there two towers of blessings because my clan has towers of blessings too like they literally have the same exact towers that you do so it’s like multiple😅
A clan can have 2 of the same type of Tower, but the benefits of the Tower type (Monster Essence, PvP, etc. for example) will not stack together. Will only receive the benefits of one of those 2 towers. So, it is pointless to have 2 towers of the same type, unless the clan doesn't care about Tower benefits and/or there were no other types available to go after for having a 2nd tower. And I do not mean tower benefits like as in daily XP & gold and the weekly chest rewards... but rather the buff the tower provides.
They get the gems because the rift is completed.. But if you remove them before the rift completes from the party they won't get anything.. Stop running Rifts with these morons for the embers.. If i notice people running rifts with them after being advised, Ill report you for exploiting.. Because you know who they are and what havoc they are causing in the market..
Right? Dunno why...just tell blizzard to send you another 1000 crests to run to make up for not getting higher than a 2/5. I'm sure they are sending orbs so u can just buy marketable gems to make plat instead so the tantrums aren't too bad if the 100 crests only net a few 2 or 3 of 5 stars. Easy solution. Now tell them to send me some crests for the tip. Oh and yes, in turn I'll tell all the kids how all the packs in the shop are great deals. That's a given for free stuff:)
Hi Echo, Blizzard is screwing the free-to-play players again. We just started a new cycle on my server, Of course, we went to Path of Blood and they raised the CR level to 38k +. So now people who rely on POB for shadow rank can only get levels 30-35 only now. So now Whales are the only ones able to finish POB. What are your thoughts on this? TY Punisher30 Treasure Goblin Server
Just because one is 38k+ CR does not mean they are whales. It means long time players who have built up their character over time that relatively newer players aren't going to be at. Money buys reso, which yes does have a certain amount of CR with it, but time & grind is "buys" CR for most people. There are a lot of F2Pers in my clan and are 38k+ easily. PoB is basically Shadow's equivalent to Immo Kion's. PoB shouldn't be something everyone can complete in 5-10 minutes anyways. Allowing it to be a little bit of a grind is actually a good thing. Otherwise, why have it to be something so important that it only gets utilized 1 day out of a whole 3-7 week reign? Immortals have Kion's to help bolster their ranking percentage, and that has to be done rather frequently over the first few weeks of the reign to assist in maxing out Immo power of 16%. So why should Shadows have an unfair edge to get to 16% quicker than Immo?
Omg I was thinking the same, as original post. I was able to blast thru all 100 floors before, now I can't pass 40 without getting like 2-3 hitted. It is kinda BS. And this is with a over paragon Barb with 26000 dam and 300+ life. From 100 to 40? Not balanced at all. Numerous friends say the same
@@stefanzadura866 My 38k Bloodknight can only get to level 70, I have already had 8 people leave my clan, and as of today, 7 have quit the game. If Blizzard doesn't fix this fast we will not have a game to play. Free-to-play players are quitting the game, on my server 10-15 per day. They are pissed. Sad Days ahead if they don't fix this.
Just tell this stupid blizz to trade freeze fresh drop gems 48 hours and all this mess will be over im deleting game in a week if rhey didn't fix this or else they like whats going on
Ok another video of doing a "test" for us that isnt really entirely true, (if youre going to do a video on the issue, you should really have your point or test down pat accurate/true before posting. My backing on this is numerous other high end players saying the same, as well as you being corrected for things in the past, involving being wrong on battle pass /paragon points on mondays when youd lose them if keen players didnt point out it was the end of the cycle, ect. (And yes, id be happy to back reference this ), but instead race to tell everyone, "What you got" again, which is really becoming a dead theme. Look at my new gem upgraded, look at my new free cos, look at my 100 crest run im gonna do as a $5 battle pass player,ect....props on the site set up itself, dependable constant videos, well made videos, and staying updated, but content of ,look what i got for free today, is getting weak.
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This is what the Cheaters are doing: th-cam.com/video/mmmFVPXoWO4/w-d-xo.html
Hey Echo i accidentally found what happening on this. try to find u ingame
Echo, thank you for testing this rift exploit. I’d been seeing people leaving after they enter the rift. Now I am wondering if we can do another test. The people that enters the rift and then leave, we kick them out of our group before we kill the boss. Do they still get the reward? I have a clanmate that will kick them out because they are not contributing to the game.
hi bro, let me explain why they (bots) do that.
there is no cheating the system by doing that.
let's try to pull back what susan did, they sold platinum, platinum was obtained from selling leg gems, leg gems were obtained from elder rift. they hijacked someone's credit card to buy 15000 orbs and with that they bought about 93 purple leg crest, and do about 9 rounds with 10 purple Leg crest
The problem is how can a character with level 20-23 be strong enough to run Elder alone?
if they do it will certainly take a long time, on the other hand they need level 25 to be able to access the market, so susan needs help right?
susan doesn't have the strong character to carry
At this moment, Susan uses a bot instead of using humans to do the elder run, with a bot of course they can do it automatically
then why do they just wait in front of the portal and will come out after a few seconds and wait in front of the elder rift?
because if they set the bot to go forward and run the elder rift until it's finished, of course it will be risky to kill the character, and will mess up the bot program they made, so they set it as simple as possible and still get the results from the 10 leg crest with minimal risk outside
so when Susan's crew woke up in the morning they found that the character had around 90 leg gems to sell, the character was already level 25 or above
from what i know, they also use a program to create email and password to register, and play manually until the westmark quest opens, just enough until westmark opens to run elder rift and market. therefore the char only reaches around level 20-22, of course they can't make a long time to raise the char to be able to run elder rift itself. on the other hand platinum orders are waiting, there are only 2 days to buy the familiar that the customer sells as a platinum transaction tool. so selling leg gems as quickly as possible and as cheaply as possible is the key to the success of the transaction
on the other hand they are also racing against time, when the owner of the credit card they use, makes a denial of a transaction that the credit card owner did not make, which will cause the character to be banned by blizart. because there is nothing they can do if that happens and have to repeat the process from the beginning
@@ronyrahardja3899 ^ what this guy said.
Also, and again, Fractured Plane's rewards aren't awful, they're just 'hidden' in the event's page. Don't let it slip (again?) and actually do it at least ONCE, and you'll see the Mysterious 3x Legendary items and 1x set items show up below the first rewards.
You can actually do the 'whole' event in 2 runs, if you want the event currency, but if you only want half the currency BUT also the mysterious equipment, you can do it ONCE, without dying more than 1x times, and within 30 minutes (of the internal timer, that you can see when scrolling to the bottom of the left info panel, once inside).
Actually the rift run is not the cheat. The bots will sell the unbound gems on low prices then use their platinums to buy the overpriced items their main account is selling. Then delete the bot account and call the card provider to refund their transaction.
Echo is just stupid jerk, dont understand nothing in game, only bla bla for youtube activity…. No content here
Been saying that is not a cheat broo or hack that's why its not patch lol yall dont know the deference from hack and clitch and being smart
@@FQG_EntIt is a cheat that affects us all, and it's one that Blizzard can fix, if they have a mind to.
@@gerardmonsen1267 tbh they really don't
It's not charge back, can only do that so much on each card.. try again
You get the loot OR you get the crests. You dont get both. Why would anyone think that?
Wow you cannot seem to grasp what is going on. Botters are using multiple accounts on multiple devices at once. They queue in. Enter rift. Leave via purple portal. Stay in party. Get the loot mailed to them.
Meanwhile, they are queuing in another account on another device. They do multiple runs at the same time in multiple accounts on multiple devices. It saves their time, makes them more efficient bczthey dont have to physically run the rift.
If you leave party or get kicked BEFORE THE RIFT ENDS, you get your crests back in the mail.
You never get the loot AND get your crests back.
This is not rocket science. I have no idea why you are struggling so hard with this. 😂😂😂
So I talked to one of the farmers this morning. What the hack is if you enter and leave but stay in party you get the embers for the runs but don't use your crests. I got offered 50k plat to run 3 of them thru 19 rifts.
Even as a barely mid-level player the Conquerer event was easy and awesome. Already collected my five lego gems.
So what's happening is they're selling platinum on websites.
Their method is that they will go in and run Rifts then sell all the gems for minimum price to sell them quickly then they will buy familiars from the person who paid them for Max price and after the transaction they refund the credit card to get all their money back.
It's not cc charge back unless they have hundreds of credit cards. And there is still a fee you pay after your first one to most credit card company's, like a bounced check . Most cc companies win my let you do it more than once or twice a month.
The bots don’t kill anything before leaving. Maybe that makes a difference?
They do stay in long enough for the party to kill something. That might still count?
Hey Echo, you missed that you did get 10 gems back, and you even got gems for the low lvl crests. 10 chest used ((7 of them low lvl silver) and received 10 gems. Looks like a good deal.
I got the gems from the run but I also lost teh crests I used... so what is the value there. Its the exact same as running the full rift. No cheat there.
What are you even on about how did he miss any gems keep playing as day said he got his 10 legendary gems Even got a frozen heart out the deal two out of five but I mean frozen heart nonetheless definitely good gem power
@@ECHOGamingDiablo the value is time. they can do a lot more and get a lot more gems for lesser time.
It's probably just a time saving thing. For the Susan bots. Though I don't know for sure. They will be running multiple rifts. ???
That exactly what it is, while you run the rift for them they can list on the m, then collect what you just ran and do it again
You should leave without moving or killing any monsters. I had encountered that situation in which I mistakenly clicked on elder rift with 2 3 red crests, then escaped from that rtw. In return, I received the crests.
What time do you Live Stream? I can never find you on live it's already aired hours ago..??
It’s probably just so they don’t have to run all the way to the chest to collect and risk getting 1 shot or waste time running. They can just go out and queue up for the next soon as they rift ends
malaga, you don't understand anything. Fuerteventura and platinum are the same. what are you saying if you don't know anything about it bueno vista cikelatci
the only way I could see the gem bug working is you leave the rift at the begin. I do believe that what they do and you wait for others to leave the party. When you leave it should mail you, if its real.
This so easy i wrote to them many times in support i hope someone can write to them too.. !
Just freeze the trade of the fresh dropped gems 48 hours and the refund process will be killed.
This will not harm spenders.
I tested it with the red one and two blue, I got a load of junk including a 2 star basic gem, worthless really. Don't see how they benefit by leaving
Wanna tip... Run your terror essences and convert your contracts rewards await for you
What else is killing the game besides some not moving to the Elder Rift similar happens with Conqueror some just enter the game and don't move until the end of the game
You know paragon levels go up by 2 every day, no longer mondays.
Its not 2 lvl per day. It was in past. Now its 10, every monday. Do you play DI ? It seems you are not playing it
@@janpesica4558 Must have been a very recent change then. Cause last I looked which was only like a month ago, it said raises 2 levels per day.
@Sistik123 it SAYS this. Because it was an old system that they didn't remove the text from. It raises by 10 every monday.
Good morning echo ,I tested, I tested myself with the same results, so I am still wondering what is the real reason?
What server do you play on?
Why would you try it anyways? To get your account banned?
Had x3 this morning they stay at the entrance boss spawns. They stay still but I got the group embers. Win for me on reset and till capped really.
Hi returning player now in Hell 3 combat rating 30000 paragon 282....how do you get nearly 5k combat rating by paragon 300 plz????
Upgrade your helliquary and ancestral tableau. Its the only way.
Many thanks mate
sir it's not working like that when network error occure or game shutdown by itself then crest will return to you it happend with me the crest was returned to me
Think about it echo,
They know what we’re talking about
They know when people use a certain type of controller
You think they don’t know about the bots?
And considering the last big update
Destroyed the markets ONLY for us players (not the bots)
It’s clear that blizzard is ok with the bots as long as it makes a profit for the company.
No matter what it does to our gaming experience
they come in,dont kill anything and then leave.
I wonder who keep giving advice to Echo. That's like the most hilarious "hack strategy" I ever heard and probably only one or two people came out with that. Echo probably never read actual comments on TH-cam explaning about the plat farmer.
Or this video is just a clickbait lol. And it works
Try seraph airdrop game 🙏
Echo, good morning. Every time the bots exit the elder because it ADDS to the pity counter. Every 50 external or legendary crests is guaranteed a 5* gem.
So every 5 elders, those bots get a guaranteed 5* gem. Real players need to finish the rift to count towards the pity counter.
I don't encourage people to do this
That means that you have to spend 50 crests to get something like a 2/5 holwers or hellfire
These people buy these glyphs for real money and then sell them on the market and then return the funds and so on in a circle
You're not going to be able to sell that voice for $40,000 platinum
Why do you save everything until monday ?
paragon goes up by 10, so the experience rewarded for handing everything in goes up.
I kind of explained that in this video... also Ash does in his response here as well.
Still doesn't make sense
If you say so.
@@fivestartka1because on Monday the server paragon level goes up by 10. Therefore if echo is above paragon level he’s getting for example -30% experience if he were to turn in on Sunday . But if he waits until Monday now he gets 100% experience etc.
either way im done spending on this till pc client is running smootly
The susi bots in my server all using 10 purple eternal crest.
Congratulations on the 5 star
I've heard susan bots are also in warcrack
Is there two towers of blessings because my clan has towers of blessings too like they literally have the same exact towers that you do so it’s like multiple😅
A clan can have 2 of the same type of Tower, but the benefits of the Tower type (Monster Essence, PvP, etc. for example) will not stack together. Will only receive the benefits of one of those 2 towers. So, it is pointless to have 2 towers of the same type, unless the clan doesn't care about Tower benefits and/or there were no other types available to go after for having a 2nd tower.
And I do not mean tower benefits like as in daily XP & gold and the weekly chest rewards... but rather the buff the tower provides.
Yeah you still got a frozen heart though
They get the gems because the rift is completed.. But if you remove them before the rift completes from the party they won't get anything.. Stop running Rifts with these morons for the embers.. If i notice people running rifts with them after being advised, Ill report you for exploiting.. Because you know who they are and what havoc they are causing in the market..
Been saying that is not a cheat broo or hack that's why its not patch lol yall dont know the deference from hack and clitch and being smart
Haha bro got mad excited over a gem lol smh
Right? Dunno why...just tell blizzard to send you another 1000 crests to run to make up for not getting higher than a 2/5. I'm sure they are sending orbs so u can just buy marketable gems to make plat instead so the tantrums aren't too bad if the 100 crests only net a few 2 or 3 of 5 stars. Easy solution. Now tell them to send me some crests for the tip. Oh and yes, in turn I'll tell all the kids how all the packs in the shop are great deals. That's a given for free stuff:)
Hi Echo, Blizzard is screwing the free-to-play players again. We just started a new cycle on my server, Of course, we went to Path of Blood and they raised the CR level to 38k +. So now people who rely on POB for shadow rank can only get levels 30-35 only now. So now Whales are the only ones able to finish POB. What are your thoughts on this? TY Punisher30 Treasure Goblin Server
Just because one is 38k+ CR does not mean they are whales. It means long time players who have built up their character over time that relatively newer players aren't going to be at. Money buys reso, which yes does have a certain amount of CR with it, but time & grind is "buys" CR for most people. There are a lot of F2Pers in my clan and are 38k+ easily.
PoB is basically Shadow's equivalent to Immo Kion's. PoB shouldn't be something everyone can complete in 5-10 minutes anyways. Allowing it to be a little bit of a grind is actually a good thing. Otherwise, why have it to be something so important that it only gets utilized 1 day out of a whole 3-7 week reign? Immortals have Kion's to help bolster their ranking percentage, and that has to be done rather frequently over the first few weeks of the reign to assist in maxing out Immo power of 16%. So why should Shadows have an unfair edge to get to 16% quicker than Immo?
Omg I was thinking the same, as original post. I was able to blast thru all 100 floors before, now I can't pass 40 without getting like 2-3 hitted. It is kinda BS. And this is with a over paragon Barb with 26000 dam and 300+ life. From 100 to 40? Not balanced at all. Numerous friends say the same
@@stefanzadura866 My 38k Bloodknight can only get to level 70, I have already had 8 people leave my clan, and as of today, 7 have quit the game. If Blizzard doesn't fix this fast we will not have a game to play. Free-to-play players are quitting the game, on my server 10-15 per day. They are pissed. Sad Days ahead if they don't fix this.
They are not doing it for that. Its to see the gem drops you get for market cornering. Blizzard finally got it on lock down.
Just tell this stupid blizz to trade freeze fresh drop gems 48 hours and all this mess will be over im deleting game in a week if rhey didn't fix this or else they like whats going on
Ok another video of doing a "test" for us that isnt really entirely true, (if youre going to do a video on the issue, you should really have your point or test down pat accurate/true before posting. My backing on this is numerous other high end players saying the same, as well as you being corrected for things in the past, involving being wrong on battle pass /paragon points on mondays when youd lose them if keen players didnt point out it was the end of the cycle, ect. (And yes, id be happy to back reference this ), but instead race to tell everyone, "What you got" again, which is really becoming a dead theme. Look at my new gem upgraded, look at my new free cos, look at my 100 crest run im gonna do as a $5 battle pass player,ect....props on the site set up itself, dependable constant videos, well made videos, and staying updated, but content of ,look what i got for free today, is getting weak.
What is the benefit of doing rifts in parties? Other people's crests don't get you gems...
Lol who reaches 3k first you or me old buddy lol