I’m really impressed Netflix actually was willing to make a series that upset China that much after having pandered to China before by doing things like putting the 9-dash line in Pine Gap and depicting the Hong Kong handover as what the actual hongkongers wanted. This is kind of like the new Top Gun movie keeping the patch, where the entertainment industry in the west is starting to stop self-censoring for China. I’m also kind of impressed that the author of the book actually is staying in China, with the money he has as an author he probably could afford to get an investment visa and move abroad but he chooses to stay in China even if he risks censorship and worse from the CCP. One thing about the cultural revolution though, I don’t know your age so I’m not sure when you were in school but my first wife was from China and she learned a little more than you about the cultural revolution (though it was covered in less than detail than in a western country) in fact their teacher showed the movie the Last Emperor to her class (which has a scene set during the cultural revolution). This was back in the early 2000’s, the same time as when Three Body Problem was first serialized. The thing is, back then China was arguably the most open it ever was since 1949 and the cultural revolution could be criticized due to its backward nature and the fact many of the people that helped open up China were victims of the cultural revolution that had been rehabilitated. Since the rise of Xi (who ironically himself was forced to work in a camp during the revolution) China has started to close again and anything that makes China look bad has been banned including discussing the cultural revolution. Kind of sad how the whole censorship of this story illustrates the backwards nature of China in the past few years…
Indeed, the political climate changes in China depending on who's in power. It was almost "politically correct" to criticize the culture revolution when the author first started writing the book. But now Xi wants to start cultural revolution 2.0. But even back then, it still wasn't okay to point fingers at the party itself. The author never wrote anything against the party. And when he was interviewed, he was supporting CCP's persecution against the Uyghurs. Maybe due to his survival instinct, who knows.
What Netflix is not mentioning is they created a white-washed version for Chinese audiences. Sadly, still kissing ass to Communist dictatorship; when it comes to truth or money, Hollywood liberals always choose money.
Ally, I thought your review was excellent! I am a college professor and have several colleagues who lived through the Cultural Revolution, and several from Tsinghua. They each have their personal story about how those terrible events affected themselves and their family. History should not be erased. 3-Body Problem helped create a desire for people to learn more about the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Thank you for making this review.
NO, the more you learn about human history, the more you want the Aliens to win muhahahah... French Revolution, Chinese Cultural Revolution, Russian Revolution, American Revolution.... History may NOT repeat itself BUT it does rhyme!
@@chasx7062 Hard to argue there but... xD I'm chronically depressed and passively suicidal so I'm probably not the *best* person to be making that call!
@@Radhaun Hey I am sorry to hear that, and i am not much of a counselor, BUT i think the Holy Spirit has already given you a spark of enlightenment with your original comment.
Thanks. This needs to be seen widely. Your presentation is excellent. I taught an a university in Peking (Beijing) 1979-1980 ie just after the Cultural Revolution ended. I saw the damage all around. People were very cowed. I saw fear in the eyes of a student's mother when I, as a foreigner, tried to give her a food gift when visiting them. Some students opened up in secret about the Revolution. Mostly they did not. I live in Taiwan now. If the CCP invades Taiwan, I, my friends here and the world will lose a great deal.
intresting to know about what and how its taught in chinese schools (i am honestly a bit surprised it is mentioned at all) maybe as a sidenote, in 'revolutions' at least the ones based on indoctrination, intelectualls (especially teachers) are always the first to be killed after all, usually they are taught to be critical about things as parts of their jobs, and teachers especially have a strong influence on public culture.
It’s taught as a regrettable mistake from a great leader, or just as facts without comment. History is taught very differently in China compared to the west. There’s a lot of on this date this happened rather than why it happened and what effects it had. And even when the cause and effects are taught it’s more like a story rather than a critical thinking piece.
@@Guo1234bob I really hate how the CCP continues to promote Mao as a "great leader" rather than a psychologically damaged, ignorant and incompetent leader who almost lead the country to ruin.
@@Guo1234bobApparently that's how history classes used to be taught in Britain, kids just had to memorise dates when things happened. When I had history classes in Britain it was wall-to-wall "you'd have been filthy, considered lower than cattle and probably killed by the plague". What an improvement, eh?
My grandparents worked in a school and one of their colleagues, a young teacher, was beaten to death by his students. The killers were never punished. Some of them were children. The school never took accountability for what happened. He left behind a young wife and daughter. His elderly father used to visit the school every year to look for answers, but got none. After the Cultural Revolution ended, society appeared to return to normal, but there are holes in people's lives that will never be filled.
@@elvishassassin1Thank you for passing on the story. There are so many, and all the more sad since the people who were there are still alive, but are not allowed to say what happened- even though some of them who were victims are in positions of immense power today, up to and including Xi himself.
@@chasx7062 I don't think teachers were decapitated in French revolution and French revolution didn't happen against 2 group of people of opposing views ,, it was all of people united against ruling class. teachers aren't ruling class. so , please stop with false equivalence.
@@RohitSharma-oh8qm LOL are you kidding me? Lots of innocent people lost their heads when the french were at it...The Mad Apes are utterly mad!!! The Rulling class always thought the poor as inhuman anyways?
I really respect your parents.. going through the hellish cultural-revolution, They made a wise decision for their daughter to have more freedom in her future. Your analysis on cultural revolution is really outstanding.
Yeah sure, she has more freedom. She's part of a cult called Falun Gong. I suggest you look into it. It's anything but free. They're a vicious cancer that has infiltrated many levels of American society too, and they have a whole ass compound in upstate New York.
😢 it is heartening for me to see your strength and bravery. I did business for quite a few years with Chinese and I know how difficult it is to speak truth even today about anything unflattering towards China. your are truly a diamond and a beacon for the future of young Chinese that want an example 😊❤❤
The Chinese don’t care about your opinions. They have moved on. They built themselves a phenomenal society for themselves. If it is so terrible there then ask yourself how can these incompetent immoral selfish people built and completed the worlds largest highspeed rail network in less than 2 decades? How are they able to uplift hundreds of millions out of poverty. If the CCP always want continuous grip of control over Chinese people’s lives then why do they make them rich. How can Chinese people even leave the country if the CCP is that bad?
At the hotel I work, is down for construction & the Chinese gentlemen have been BEYOND polite and hard working, they replaced these Jamaicans who kept harassing women guests and the women housekeepers. They worked Xmas day, so did I (hotels do not close, only portions) One seen me breaking down from family stress and offered me a camel cigarette 😅 like..they could read I was going through something but said no thank you though. He wasn't being creepy like the previous workers. I don't have much $$ since my hours were cut in half so now that I see your comment I will save money to buy each of them these $5 cupcakes each and give them. They are here to work 7am-7pm 6 days a week! In conclusion this video really shows we had Salem witch trials where so many men and women were murdered for zero reason...there they were punished for trying to learn life beyond religion! No excuse
I just watched the first episode of the Netflix version and was curious about how it was handled in China, so this came at just the right time. Thanks for posting.
More people need to watch this video to learn that the scene wasn't fictional, it actually happened all over China for 10 years! In addition to human suffering, a lot of valuable artifacts, rare books and historical monuments were destroyed in that era. Sorry to learn that your family suffered from this madness and thank you for bringing attention to it, I am sure it isn't easy for you to have the wound reopened.
Although brutal, the cultural revolution was basically the opposite of an autocracy. The local red guards, while loyal to Maoism, were extremely autonomous and the central government held little power during this period. At the end of the cultural revolution Mao finally decided to send in the troops to disarm the red guards in order to prevent a civil war.
When watching that scene I noticed that Ye Wenjie was also noticeably struggling and crying out for her dad, and there were even Red Guards holding her back. Having read about the Cultural Revolution I feel this would probably not have happened in real life. Given the crowds, she would have been frozen with fear.
The Netflix delibrately cut off an important scene during Ye's father's murder, which was in the original novel, like this: "The supreme directive: fight with words, not with force!" Ye Zhetai's two students finally made up their minds and shouted these words. They rushed over at the same time and pulled away the four little girls who were already in a semi-crazy state. It makes a big difference，because this sentence showed that Chinese leadership didn't encourage violence during the cultural revolution, and Ye Zhetai's death was an accident in which the four teenage girls lost control.
@@aroonsubway2079 that's exactly the message that the high ranking officials of the CCP want to pass, the meaning behind is "the party is always right, when something goes wrong is an individual's fault. and that individual needs to go through the CCP sessions (ie brainwashing or torture) to become a productive member of the society" I read a lot and talk to a lot of chinese people (democratic activists, falun gong, lawyers, christians etc etc ) who escaped from China because the country is under the communist ideology.
@aroonsubway2079 yep, this is extremely important. The CCP wants to wash its hands of the mass murder they committed, and carefully designed propaganda like this is their favorite tool.
I binge-watched the series and was deeply depressed at the events of the so-called cultural revolution. It was basically gang-led anarchism, which is also the situation in China today under Xi the Pooh and CCP.
A great book not just about the cultural revolution, but the nature of the CCP would be the 'Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party' www.ninecommentaries.com/english
From my understanding and what i heard, the Director interviewed survivors for this scene. Thank you Ally for speaking for those who aren’t granted a voice
So from your description i am getting that the scene was actually "lighter" than in real life... wow, when i saw it, i felt horrified by it, i cannot even fathom how i would feel with the real thing.
7:25 could you explore further on why the CCP is against these key points? It does ring true to me that they naturally act against these with their actions, but did you mean that they systematically and in principal go specifically against these principals? If so, could you give some examples on how they systematically oppose these? I think that would be a super valuable explanation, because I had no ideia that this was against their "philosophy".
The CCP was not explicitly against these points. What they (Mao) proposed during the Cultural Revolution was to completely root out "traditional" a.k.a "reactionary feudal" value from Chinese people and culture and society to form a new socialist/communist people. By that, they first went against the intellectuals, who tended to be most active in criticising the government (see also the Hundred Flowers Campaign) because of their supposed tie to old-school Confucian value and their tendency of liberalism. But it did not stop there. Government officials who were against Mao were also targeted, such as Peng Duhuai (the respected general who led Chinese troops during the Korean War) or Liu Shaoqi (the bloody head of state).
Ally, it’s the same for Western Teachers teaching their students about happened during WW2. The teachers ALWAYS focused on and taught their students about what The Nazis did in WW2. They NEVER once taught their students what The Japanese did in WW2. They also taught their students the WRONG date of when WW2 actually started. They always taught them that WW2 started in 1939 when The Nazis invaded Poland. But, that is in fact the WRONG year of when WW2 actually started, because the CORRECT YEAR of when WW2 actually started was in 1937, when The Japanese invaded China. The Western Teachers NEVER taught their students about “The Nanjing Massacre aka “The R@pe of Nanjing”, “Unit 731”, “The Comfort Women”, “The Bataan Death March”, etc. And, in my opinion…The Japanese WERE WORST than The Nazis.
Thanks for posting this. I am currently finishing the third book in the series, and I've seen the Chinese 30 part show and the first few parts of the Netflix series. I had to stop watching Netflix because they were putting events from the third volume of the series which I hadn't even read yet fairly early in the show. I thought the two sequences involving the Red Guard in the NetFlix show (second one being Ye Wenjie confronting the woman who killed her father and later lost part of her arm) were well done. I wish the rest of it was as faithful to the book. Thanks for increasing my understanding of these events.
The netflix scene was gruesome. It put color figuratively and literally to the black and white pictures I am used to seeing about the Cultural Revolution. Im also glad that the English Translated Book also is as the author intended. The last thing I want in a book is a heavily censored version to appease some Ideology and Censorship Ministry who prioritize propaganda over truth.
Great question. I am glad to see there are still people with critical thinking like you on TH-cam. But unfortunately, this youtuber won't show the other side of the story.
Nobody in China claims it's inaccurate or wrong. But what they resent is that it's the only thing about China in the whole show. If you read the original books, you will understand that the passage about the cultural revolution is crucial for the plot, but most of the first book is about contemporary China (next 2 books are about the future), which most Westerners have no clue about, and which would have been very interesting to describe accurately. Three Body Problem is a masterpiece of Chinese literature, and I understand that some Chinese don't appreciate that Netflix made into a British story with British characters and only mentions the darkest parts of Chinese history while totally occulting today's Chinese reality, which is that of an extraordinarily developed nation in science, technology and human development. The author of this video is extremely biased and sounds like a fanatical convert wanting to please her new masters.
Hopefully, every country can learn something from this history to avoid similar things! This is not just a China problem as we can see with current wars and events.
Thank you Ally for your insights into what was an horrific part of history. Whether it was Red Shirts (China) or Brown Shirts (Nazi Germany) the results sadly are the same. One interesting part of the Cultural Revolution was the denouncing of anything old, old traditions, old customs, old thinking etc etc therefore the CCP did not support anything that was imperial. The ironic part of this is that Taiwan was only ever controlled by Imperial China and never the PRC. So the present CCP are actually going against the "teachings" of Chairman Mao (note Mao also went against his own teachings on this matter as well) in trying to claim that Taiwan was apart of the PRC. So if the Communists were at all fair minded, they would not claim ownership of the island nation of Taiwan because it was against the very teaching of the Cultural Revolution itself!
I worked in a high school in Beijing and watched as the history teacher glued white paper over certain pages in the textbook. I guess what was acceptable changed halfway through the term.
Ive just learned...During Mao's Cultural Revolution (1966-1976), local governments' documents revealed hundreds of incidents of cannibalism for ideological reasons, including large-scale cannibalism during the Guangxi Massacre. One though famie lead to cannibalism which is understandable, but didn’t know eating your teachers and enemy in revolution? That is level with cannibalism tribes, in late 60s.
It's very accurate. And you'd think that with Netflix making scenes like this, America would understand the warning signs of this kind of revolution happening in their own country.
I need to watch this show now :) I am wondering would most people who lived through this would remember this and have witness these types of events? There would still be a lot of people still alive that were born in the 50s and early 60s. Or most people would be aware of it, but would do their best to keep out of it? Or was it impossible not be there. If you stayed at home you might be in trouble not going to watch the "bad person" get punished. I wonder if we should ask questions for the older generations or it would make them feel uncomfortable. Obviously it would need to be the right social situation to bring up the topic. I have only basic chinese skills. As a general rule I don't go there , as it probably caused major mental scars.
Their answer would make YOU uncomfortable. :) They would justify those things, because they were likely participating in them, and since they are good people, events themselves can't be bad. People killed were somehow deserving it. Logic! Have similar experience with Russian people living through Soviet times. Humans are humans.
Quick question. If you shouldn't criticise the great leader for one mistake as he did so many good things, what exactly are these good things? I would really like to see this list as I believe it would be pretty damn short.
There are many TV shows and films in China legally shown with the background of the cultural revolution (not this direct of course) ... Also, i saw on CCTV6 a documentary on the topic, the only difference, they blame the gang of 4 for all of it and not Mao ...
I watched malcomx speech about china and he praised culture revolution in china as way to root out traitors and that how you build future of patriotic people, but I watched video about guy who said he was reason his mother got excuted by red guards cuz she insulted portray of mao, I honestly don't know how to feel about cultural revolution, I feel like it might have done more harm to chinese then good
Humbling a person in a position of authority to recognize the power of the masses. In traditional Chinese culture elders are respected as living monuments, but the Cultural Revolution empowered the young to challenge traditions and dismantle them. That is the thinking anyway.
I hope that children here in America can see this and understand how dangerously close we are to having a similar atrocity happen here. Giving middle and high school children a misguided freedom to go Lord of the Flies and they get virtue points for it is a recipe for disaster.
I wonder how many young people, by percentage, are aware of the way group think makes individuals the tool of oppressive leaders. We were not recommended to read books such as 1984, or writings of authors that promote individualism or literature with a positive sentiment towards what would have been "liberal views" to my parents. It's a confusing time being around so many worker drones with no one being widely promoted (monetarily) for defending the soul or spiritual values.
NO, the more you learn about human history, the more you want the Aliens to win muhahahah... French Revolution, Chinese Cultural Revolution, Russian Revolution, American Revolution.... History may NOT repeat itself BUT it does rhyme!
Living in Beijing is a privilege (it is still so today). One needs special permit (hukou) to live there. Therefore expelling a family, stripping them of this privilege is also a punishment, considered less severe than killing or imprisonment.
I actually tried to read the English version of the Three Body Problem. Did not care for it (lame plot and characters). It did, however, start with a struggle session scene in the first chapter, which I hear was not present in the original Chinese version. I haven't seen the Netflix adaptation (since I disliked the book so much), but I hear Chinese audiences have problems with the acting, direction, etc. I think the negative reception surrounding the Netflix adaptation also clouds the issue.
The book started slow but if you endure the first half it gets a lot better. The Netflix version is far better in this regard. I'd say watch the show even if you dislike the book.
The irony of your story about learning more in history class about American Slavery than the Cultural Revolution is not lost on me. Here and now, many people in the United States want to remove lessons about slavery from school books or minimize the fact America was built on their backs.
I wonder if Ip Man being on the stage (instead of professor Ip) would make a difference against the red guards? Ooops ... I forgot, the real life “Ip Man” is pro ccp :P
Its like, why America doesnt teach about Brazil's independence and history. I'm Brazilian and i know few about each president of USA, depise you use "America" to rever only North America. The history of own country is dense, you just summarise the other countries that have immediate relations with your country. The point is, what do the education system want to show that is core to understand.
This is so well explained Ally, thank you. It is so frightening to see western students acting the same way on campuses and in the streets now in the US.
I don't know about all of the West, but the USA had its own McCarthyism show trials, not to mention all the racial violence and strife in the same time period. But there does continue to be violence on US streets as police execute unarmed people with impunity still.
In terms of the character's anger at humanity, I think there is an untold story here as well. After her father is brutally killed in front of her and her mother renounces her family, she is basically an orphan stigmatized by being of the same blood of a perceived traitor. I can't imagine what that would have done to a young girl being shuffled around from orphanage to orphanage and despised by everyone who was entrusted to take care of her. She was also probably bullied and abused by her classmates, peers, and even family members even before she was put into the orphanage system -- a system where children were to be regimented and molded into the perfect Maoist cadre.. And then being thrown into the crazy labor system in the period of the Gang of Four after Mao died. Everyone betrayed her; everyone was a predator out to hurt her; and no one could be trusted whether a faux boyfriend or an opportunistic colleague. This doesn't exactly make someone "Up with People." I would have been surprised if she hadn't sent the communication.
This is not surprising. China is slowly easing its population into "maybe there were some bad parts to the cultural revolution" while working to maintain the loyalty of the people.
im definitely a fan of the book, but deeply saddened by both shows as it didn't hold a good storyline and didn't do justice to the book. At least I know the cultural revolutions was depicted accurately by you :D
@@AllyFromChina So you are a Falun gong cultist ??? If you were to visit China, which I am sure you have not done in a very long time, you would know that it is precisely the place where traditional Chinese culture is actually the most protected and promoted by the government. China is a deeply Confucian society. I have no doubt that if Confucius was alive, he would see Xi Jinping as his most devout disciple and as a true benevolent ruler.
I cannot imagine what it was like to be black in America from 1700s until the 1980s, or Native Americans in the 1700 and 1800s. Every major country has a bleak history unfortunately
Man. Please always keep asking questions with critical thinking... Forget about all these illusory ideologies. Take a look at real hardcore statistics from WorldBank: Chinese population grew from 700 million in 1966 to 930 million in 1976, and its GDP grew from 80 billion USD to 153 billiion USD (almost doubled) during the cultural revolution. You are free to search and do a fact checking on these figures. If the bloody scene in this 3BP story was some daily routine in any country, such rapid population and economic growth would not happen.
I love how China decided that the best way to protect the CCP from accusations that it was a controlling and tyrannical government that banned "propaganda" and limited rights to achieve its revolution in the 70s, was to BAN the show in 2024 that depicted it in this way 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The more you learn about human history, the more you want the Aliens to win muhahahah... French Revolution, Chinese Cultural Revolution, Russian Revolution, American Revolution.... History may NOT repeat itself BUT it does rhyme!
I’m really impressed Netflix actually was willing to make a series that upset China that much after having pandered to China before by doing things like putting the 9-dash line in Pine Gap and depicting the Hong Kong handover as what the actual hongkongers wanted. This is kind of like the new Top Gun movie keeping the patch, where the entertainment industry in the west is starting to stop self-censoring for China.
I’m also kind of impressed that the author of the book actually is staying in China, with the money he has as an author he probably could afford to get an investment visa and move abroad but he chooses to stay in China even if he risks censorship and worse from the CCP.
One thing about the cultural revolution though, I don’t know your age so I’m not sure when you were in school but my first wife was from China and she learned a little more than you about the cultural revolution (though it was covered in less than detail than in a western country) in fact their teacher showed the movie the Last Emperor to her class (which has a scene set during the cultural revolution). This was back in the early 2000’s, the same time as when Three Body Problem was first serialized. The thing is, back then China was arguably the most open it ever was since 1949 and the cultural revolution could be criticized due to its backward nature and the fact many of the people that helped open up China were victims of the cultural revolution that had been rehabilitated. Since the rise of Xi (who ironically himself was forced to work in a camp during the revolution) China has started to close again and anything that makes China look bad has been banned including discussing the cultural revolution. Kind of sad how the whole censorship of this story illustrates the backwards nature of China in the past few years…
Indeed, the political climate changes in China depending on who's in power. It was almost "politically correct" to criticize the culture revolution when the author first started writing the book. But now Xi wants to start cultural revolution 2.0.
But even back then, it still wasn't okay to point fingers at the party itself. The author never wrote anything against the party. And when he was interviewed, he was supporting CCP's persecution against the Uyghurs. Maybe due to his survival instinct, who knows.
What Netflix is not mentioning is they created a white-washed version for Chinese audiences. Sadly, still kissing ass to Communist dictatorship; when it comes to truth or money, Hollywood liberals always choose money.
Whole lot of yapping
tldr: What's really surprising to you is seeing the Chinese who actually lived in the country not kowtowing to you and your media.
The TV only shows the less brutal side of cultural revolution. The real situations were so much more brutal
Good on you Ally. Sharing the truth is one of the highest virtues. Continue being a warrior and sharing your truth with others!
Ally, I thought your review was excellent! I am a college professor and have several colleagues who lived through the Cultural Revolution, and several from Tsinghua. They each have their personal story about how those terrible events affected themselves and their family.
History should not be erased. 3-Body Problem helped create a desire for people to learn more about the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Thank you for making this review.
The more I learn about human history, the more I am convinced that the most important lessons to teach children are empathy for others and oneself.
NO, the more you learn about human history, the more you want the Aliens to win muhahahah... French Revolution, Chinese Cultural Revolution, Russian Revolution, American Revolution.... History may NOT repeat itself BUT it does rhyme!
@@chasx7062 Hard to argue there but... xD I'm chronically depressed and passively suicidal so I'm probably not the *best* person to be making that call!
I agree. Kindness and empathy are keys to emotional maturity, and ultimately, humanity.
@@Radhaun Hey I am sorry to hear that, and i am not much of a counselor, BUT i think the Holy Spirit has already given you a spark of enlightenment with your original comment.
@@chasx7062 i wanted to say this... but you beat me to it. hahah
Thanks. This needs to be seen widely. Your presentation is excellent. I taught an a university in Peking (Beijing) 1979-1980 ie just after the Cultural Revolution ended. I saw the damage all around. People were very cowed. I saw fear in the eyes of a student's mother when I, as a foreigner, tried to give her a food gift when visiting them. Some students opened up in secret about the Revolution. Mostly they did not. I live in Taiwan now. If the CCP invades Taiwan, I, my friends here and the world will lose a great deal.
Very clear and concise. I appreciate this video, keep up the good work!!
intresting to know about what and how its taught in chinese schools (i am honestly a bit surprised it is mentioned at all)
maybe as a sidenote, in 'revolutions' at least the ones based on indoctrination, intelectualls (especially teachers) are always the first to be killed after all, usually they are taught to be critical about things as parts of their jobs, and teachers especially have a strong influence on public culture.
It’s taught as a regrettable mistake from a great leader, or just as facts without comment. History is taught very differently in China compared to the west. There’s a lot of on this date this happened rather than why it happened and what effects it had. And even when the cause and effects are taught it’s more like a story rather than a critical thinking piece.
@@Guo1234bob I really hate how the CCP continues to promote Mao as a "great leader" rather than a psychologically damaged, ignorant and incompetent leader who almost lead the country to ruin.
@@Guo1234bobApparently that's how history classes used to be taught in Britain, kids just had to memorise dates when things happened.
When I had history classes in Britain it was wall-to-wall "you'd have been filthy, considered lower than cattle and probably killed by the plague". What an improvement, eh?
thanks for your explanation...i've learned something important today.
I hope this show brings more attention to the cultural revolution.
Not very accurate. The real events were WAY MORE BRUTAL.
My grandparents worked in a school and one of their colleagues, a young teacher, was beaten to death by his students. The killers were never punished. Some of them were children. The school never took accountability for what happened. He left behind a young wife and daughter. His elderly father used to visit the school every year to look for answers, but got none. After the Cultural Revolution ended, society appeared to return to normal, but there are holes in people's lives that will never be filled.
@@elvishassassin1Thank you for passing on the story. There are so many, and all the more sad since the people who were there are still alive, but are not allowed to say what happened- even though some of them who were victims are in positions of immense power today, up to and including Xi himself.
@@PxThucydides and who was punished for the French Revolution ?
@@chasx7062 I don't think teachers were decapitated in French revolution and French revolution didn't happen against 2 group of people of opposing views ,, it was all of people united against ruling class. teachers aren't ruling class. so , please stop with false equivalence.
@@RohitSharma-oh8qm LOL are you kidding me? Lots of innocent people lost their heads when the french were at it...The Mad Apes are utterly mad!!! The Rulling class always thought the poor as inhuman anyways?
I really respect your parents.. going through the hellish cultural-revolution,
They made a wise decision for their daughter to have more freedom in her future.
Your analysis on cultural revolution is really outstanding.
Yeah sure, she has more freedom. She's part of a cult called Falun Gong. I suggest you look into it. It's anything but free. They're a vicious cancer that has infiltrated many levels of American society too, and they have a whole ass compound in upstate New York.
😢 it is heartening for me to see your strength and bravery. I did business for quite a few years with Chinese and I know how difficult it is to speak truth even today about anything unflattering towards China. your are truly a diamond and a beacon for the future of young Chinese that want an example 😊❤❤
The Chinese don’t care about your opinions. They have moved on. They built themselves a phenomenal society for themselves. If it is so terrible there then ask yourself how can these incompetent immoral selfish people built and completed the worlds largest highspeed rail network in less than 2 decades? How are they able to uplift hundreds of millions out of poverty. If the CCP always want continuous grip of control over Chinese people’s lives then why do they make them rich. How can Chinese people even leave the country if the CCP is that bad?
At the hotel I work, is down for construction & the Chinese gentlemen have been BEYOND polite and hard working, they replaced these Jamaicans who kept harassing women guests and the women housekeepers. They worked Xmas day, so did I (hotels do not close, only portions) One seen me breaking down from family stress and offered me a camel cigarette 😅 like..they could read I was going through something but said no thank you though. He wasn't being creepy like the previous workers. I don't have much $$ since my hours were cut in half so now that I see your comment I will save money to buy each of them these $5 cupcakes each and give them. They are here to work 7am-7pm 6 days a week!
In conclusion this video really shows we had Salem witch trials where so many men and women were murdered for zero reason...there they were punished for trying to learn life beyond religion! No excuse
I just watched the first episode of the Netflix version and was curious about how it was handled in China, so this came at just the right time. Thanks for posting.
Me too. Are China happy with this depiction? I’m really curious
My Taiwanese friend’s grandpa said that the scene was very “light”. The reality was WAY worse.
He is right.
@@xiaoguangzhang3145wow
She mentioned they just showed the start of the cultural revolution in the Netflix series and it got much worse.
You wanted to see more fictional gore because you cry about losing against the people in reality.
@@tritium1998 Fictional gore? I believe the people who were there. You can believe the propaganda. That is your right.
The fact that the inaccuracies are "they weren't cruel enough"
Just goes to show how messed up the cultural revolution was
More people need to watch this video to learn that the scene wasn't fictional, it actually happened all over China for 10 years! In addition to human suffering, a lot of valuable artifacts, rare books and historical monuments were destroyed in that era. Sorry to learn that your family suffered from this madness and thank you for bringing attention to it, I am sure it isn't easy for you to have the wound reopened.
Yeah it is almost as bad as black Americans were treated from the 1700s until the 1980s-2000. Same as the Natives of America in the 1700s-1900s
@@LetsBeHonestImAPrat your woke infected mind just have to inject something totally unrelated to the topic.
@@LetsBeHonestImAPrat communists are same like these slave onwers.
great breakdown, cheers
Thank you for this. So helpful and gives so much context👏👏👏
Ally I admire your integrity and ability to share truth to power! The Chinese people still are under the autocratic control of CCP.
Although brutal, the cultural revolution was basically the opposite of an autocracy. The local red guards, while loyal to Maoism, were extremely autonomous and the central government held little power during this period. At the end of the cultural revolution Mao finally decided to send in the troops to disarm the red guards in order to prevent a civil war.
@@AwesomeGuy_21 if there is anything history has taught us it is that it is never good for one person to be in control
When watching that scene I noticed that Ye Wenjie was also noticeably struggling and crying out for her dad, and there were even Red Guards holding her back. Having read about the Cultural Revolution I feel this would probably not have happened in real life. Given the crowds, she would have been frozen with fear.
The Netflix delibrately cut off an important scene during Ye's father's murder, which was in the original novel, like this:
"The supreme directive: fight with words, not with force!" Ye Zhetai's two students finally made up their minds and shouted these words. They rushed over at the same time and pulled away the four little girls who were already in a semi-crazy state.
It makes a big difference，because this sentence showed that Chinese leadership didn't encourage violence during the cultural revolution, and Ye Zhetai's death was an accident in which the four teenage girls lost control.
@@aroonsubway2079 that's the novel. reality is violence against the so called "enemy of the people" was deff encouraged and carried on.
@@MemesAndLs “Fight with words, not with force” was reality. They really said that. You can do more research to see if it is the case.
@@aroonsubway2079 that's exactly the message that the high ranking officials of the CCP want to pass, the meaning behind is "the party is always right, when something goes wrong is an individual's fault. and that individual needs to go through the CCP sessions (ie brainwashing or torture) to become a productive member of the society"
I read a lot and talk to a lot of chinese people (democratic activists, falun gong, lawyers, christians etc etc ) who escaped from China because the country is under the communist ideology.
@aroonsubway2079 yep, this is extremely important. The CCP wants to wash its hands of the mass murder they committed, and carefully designed propaganda like this is their favorite tool.
I binge-watched the series and was deeply depressed at the events of the so-called cultural revolution. It was basically gang-led anarchism, which is also the situation in China today under Xi the Pooh and CCP.
Well, luckily, it is not as bad as in CR times. Let's hope it doesn't get there again
Gangs backed by a dictator in red. The parallels...
Poojeets being anti-china. You don’t say. Meanwhile Modi is out there assassinating Sikhs in Canada and America.
The whole place is turning into another North Korea thanks to Xi’s and the CCP’s “leadership”.
I'm a Laowei living in China, it's nothing like it was during the CR times.
Your video is fascinating! Would you have any good English books to suggest about the cultural revolution?
Life and Death in Shanghai by Nien Cheng
A great book not just about the cultural revolution, but the nature of the CCP would be the 'Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party'
www.ninecommentaries.com/english
From my understanding and what i heard, the Director interviewed survivors for this scene. Thank you Ally for speaking for those who aren’t granted a voice
Thank you for your insightful review.
Thanks Ally. This is a great video. Well done!
Thank you for doing this. I imagine that it must have been difficult since your family were victims of the wen hua de geming(cultural revolution).
Thank you for sharing this. I haven’t heard anything about Chinese history. It’s heart breaking to learn about the evil human kind is capable of.
Thank you for these explanations, greeting from Morocco :)
Thanks!
Thank you for your support!
So from your description i am getting that the scene was actually "lighter" than in real life... wow, when i saw it, i felt horrified by it, i cannot even fathom how i would feel with the real thing.
Thank you for your important testimony on the subject. Keep fighting for freedom!
Thank you for this very interesting and accurate analysis of the opening scene. Such a dark time it was 🙏
7:25 could you explore further on why the CCP is against these key points? It does ring true to me that they naturally act against these with their actions, but did you mean that they systematically and in principal go specifically against these principals? If so, could you give some examples on how they systematically oppose these? I think that would be a super valuable explanation, because I had no ideia that this was against their "philosophy".
The CCP was not explicitly against these points. What they (Mao) proposed during the Cultural Revolution was to completely root out "traditional" a.k.a "reactionary feudal" value from Chinese people and culture and society to form a new socialist/communist people. By that, they first went against the intellectuals, who tended to be most active in criticising the government (see also the Hundred Flowers Campaign) because of their supposed tie to old-school Confucian value and their tendency of liberalism. But it did not stop there. Government officials who were against Mao were also targeted, such as Peng Duhuai (the respected general who led Chinese troops during the Korean War) or Liu Shaoqi (the bloody head of state).
Thank you for making the video
Great video, it brings so much more context to the books
So we will be getting to this in a month and I’d like to use this scene for my world history class in high school. What would be your suggestion?
Ohhhh, okay 🤷♂️
Ally, it’s the same for Western Teachers teaching their students about happened during WW2. The teachers ALWAYS focused on and taught their students about what The Nazis did in WW2. They NEVER once taught their students what The Japanese did in WW2. They also taught their students the WRONG date of when WW2 actually started. They always taught them that WW2 started in 1939 when The Nazis invaded Poland. But, that is in fact the WRONG year of when WW2 actually started, because the CORRECT YEAR of when WW2 actually started was in 1937, when The Japanese invaded China.
The Western Teachers NEVER taught their students about “The Nanjing Massacre aka “The R@pe of Nanjing”, “Unit 731”, “The Comfort Women”, “The Bataan Death March”, etc. And, in my opinion…The Japanese WERE WORST than The Nazis.
The opening scene was so impressive & strong it got me hooked to the whole series. The actors they hired for the opening scene really delivered
Social Credit -9999😂. By the way, Like your video.
Brutality, blind obedience and betrayal: accurate. Compassion, grief and remorse: inaccurate. Yikes!
Thanks for posting this. I am currently finishing the third book in the series, and I've seen the Chinese 30 part show and the first few parts of the Netflix series. I had to stop watching Netflix because they were putting events from the third volume of the series which I hadn't even read yet fairly early in the show.
I thought the two sequences involving the Red Guard in the NetFlix show (second one being Ye Wenjie confronting the woman who killed her father and later lost part of her arm) were well done. I wish the rest of it was as faithful to the book.
Thanks for increasing my understanding of these events.
Excellent commentary.
The netflix scene was gruesome. It put color figuratively and literally to the black and white pictures I am used to seeing about the Cultural Revolution.
Im also glad that the English Translated Book also is as the author intended. The last thing I want in a book is a heavily censored version to appease some Ideology and Censorship Ministry who prioritize propaganda over truth.
What are the crtisisims from the chinese audience? What do they claim in inaccurate or wrong?
It depends how much pro-CCP propaganda they believe…
Great question. I am glad to see there are still people with critical thinking like you on TH-cam. But unfortunately, this youtuber won't show the other side of the story.
Okay can you tell me what’s inaccurate about the struggle section
Nobody in China claims it's inaccurate or wrong. But what they resent is that it's the only thing about China in the whole show. If you read the original books, you will understand that the passage about the cultural revolution is crucial for the plot, but most of the first book is about contemporary China (next 2 books are about the future), which most Westerners have no clue about, and which would have been very interesting to describe accurately. Three Body Problem is a masterpiece of Chinese literature, and I understand that some Chinese don't appreciate that Netflix made into a British story with British characters and only mentions the darkest parts of Chinese history while totally occulting today's Chinese reality, which is that of an extraordinarily developed nation in science, technology and human development.
The author of this video is extremely biased and sounds like a fanatical convert wanting to please her new masters.
I always wanted to know what most chinese people think about it. Thank you. I just hope you don't get in any trouble because of this video
Hopefully, every country can learn something from this history to avoid similar things! This is not just a China problem as we can see with current wars and events.
6:40 they fought good values, why? JUST WHY? 7:30 this is ridiculous...
Judging by your channel description, it sounds like there needs to be a second Cultural Revolution
Thank's again ❤
Thank you Ally for your insights into what was an horrific part of history. Whether it was Red Shirts (China) or Brown Shirts (Nazi Germany) the results sadly are the same. One interesting part of the Cultural Revolution was the denouncing of anything old, old traditions, old customs, old thinking etc etc therefore the CCP did not support anything that was imperial. The ironic part of this is that Taiwan was only ever controlled by Imperial China and never the PRC. So the present CCP are actually going against the "teachings" of Chairman Mao (note Mao also went against his own teachings on this matter as well) in trying to claim that Taiwan was apart of the PRC. So if the Communists were at all fair minded, they would not claim ownership of the island nation of Taiwan because it was against the very teaching of the Cultural Revolution itself!
Excellent explanation. 💯
Where do you live now ?
l0l their "dunce hats" are so similar too those high end university 'caps of shame' or whatever they are, wonder what the correlation is, if any
I worked in a high school in Beijing and watched as the history teacher glued white paper over certain pages in the textbook. I guess what was acceptable changed halfway through the term.
Four Olds were: Old Ideas, Old Culture, Old Customs, and Old Habits
who, the chinese tradition or the PCC actions?
@@rubemartur8239 The motto of the cultural revolution
Ive just learned...During Mao's Cultural Revolution (1966-1976), local governments' documents revealed hundreds of incidents of cannibalism for ideological reasons, including large-scale cannibalism during the Guangxi Massacre. One though famie lead to cannibalism which is understandable, but didn’t know eating your teachers and enemy in revolution? That is level with cannibalism tribes, in late 60s.
It's very accurate. And you'd think that with Netflix making scenes like this, America would understand the warning signs of this kind of revolution happening in their own country.
Where was this scene filmed ? Its a gripping scene.
I need to watch this show now :)
I am wondering would most people who lived through this would remember this and have witness these types of events? There would still be a lot of people still alive that were born in the 50s and early 60s. Or most people would be aware of it, but would do their best to keep out of it? Or was it impossible not be there. If you stayed at home you might be in trouble not going to watch the "bad person" get punished. I wonder if we should ask questions for the older generations or it would make them feel uncomfortable. Obviously it would need to be the right social situation to bring up the topic. I have only basic chinese skills. As a general rule I don't go there , as it probably caused major mental scars.
Their answer would make YOU uncomfortable. :) They would justify those things, because they were likely participating in them, and since they are good people, events themselves can't be bad. People killed were somehow deserving it. Logic!
Have similar experience with Russian people living through Soviet times. Humans are humans.
solid video
Quick question. If you shouldn't criticise the great leader for one mistake as he did so many good things, what exactly are these good things? I would really like to see this list as I believe it would be pretty damn short.
Are there any other cities in China apart from Beijing?
Thank you
There are many TV shows and films in China legally shown with the background of the cultural revolution (not this direct of course) ... Also, i saw on CCTV6 a documentary on the topic, the only difference, they blame the gang of 4 for all of it and not Mao ...
I watched malcomx speech about china and he praised culture revolution in china as way to root out traitors and that how you build future of patriotic people, but I watched video about guy who said he was reason his mother got excuted by red guards cuz she insulted portray of mao, I honestly don't know how to feel about cultural revolution, I feel like it might have done more harm to chinese then good
It did only harm and zero good. Malcom X is the most overrated figure in American history
What is the significance of being forced to bow to the audience?
Humbling a person in a position of authority to recognize the power of the masses. In traditional Chinese culture elders are respected as living monuments, but the Cultural Revolution empowered the young to challenge traditions and dismantle them. That is the thinking anyway.
I hope that children here in America can see this and understand how dangerously close we are to having a similar atrocity happen here. Giving middle and high school children a misguided freedom to go Lord of the Flies and they get virtue points for it is a recipe for disaster.
Bro you already have way more horrible things happening in schools, with students and g+ns
@federicocaldas227 b-b-but thats not the guns fault 🥺
I wonder how many young people, by percentage, are aware of the way group think makes individuals the tool of oppressive leaders. We were not recommended to read books such as 1984, or writings of authors that promote individualism or literature with a positive sentiment towards what would have been "liberal views" to my parents. It's a confusing time being around so many worker drones with no one being widely promoted (monetarily) for defending the soul or spiritual values.
Barbaric behaviour by any measure. So many killed for no good reason. People become animals in a mob mentality.
NO, the more you learn about human history, the more you want the Aliens to win muhahahah... French Revolution, Chinese Cultural Revolution, Russian Revolution, American Revolution.... History may NOT repeat itself BUT it does rhyme!
Why would a family be expelled as opposed to being killed or imprisoned?
Living in Beijing is a privilege (it is still so today). One needs special permit (hukou) to live there. Therefore expelling a family, stripping them of this privilege is also a punishment, considered less severe than killing or imprisonment.
I actually tried to read the English version of the Three Body Problem. Did not care for it (lame plot and characters). It did, however, start with a struggle session scene in the first chapter, which I hear was not present in the original Chinese version.
I haven't seen the Netflix adaptation (since I disliked the book so much), but I hear Chinese audiences have problems with the acting, direction, etc. I think the negative reception surrounding the Netflix adaptation also clouds the issue.
The book started slow but if you endure the first half it gets a lot better. The Netflix version is far better in this regard. I'd say watch the show even if you dislike the book.
Oh gosh... so the only inaccurate things are the humane thing. What a sad era that was T_T
The irony of your story about learning more in history class about American Slavery than the Cultural Revolution is not lost on me. Here and now, many people in the United States want to remove lessons about slavery from school books or minimize the fact America was built on their backs.
I wonder if Ip Man being on the stage (instead of professor Ip) would make a difference against the red guards? Ooops ... I forgot, the real life “Ip Man” is pro ccp :P
Ip Man was living in Hong Kong, a British colony back then, not part of China.
What's amazing is that Netflix still didn't depict the Cultural Revolution as brutal as it really was. And China is still upset over it, lmao.
No mention of the poor sparrows ?
Thanks for the perspective on the author: i've heard some stories about him being a pro-ccp person, but it seems he is just a victim.
How is it that the Education System in America has failed and continues to fail to TEACH THIS!?!?
Its like, why America doesnt teach about Brazil's independence and history.
I'm Brazilian and i know few about each president of USA, depise you use "America" to rever only North America. The history of own country is dense, you just summarise the other countries that have immediate relations with your country. The point is, what do the education system want to show that is core to understand.
The level of a country’s democracy is proportional to the ability to criticize leaders.
To think, people defend this vile ideology.
This is so well explained Ally, thank you. It is so frightening to see western students acting the same way on campuses and in the streets now in the US.
I don't know about all of the West, but the USA had its own McCarthyism show trials, not to mention all the racial violence and strife in the same time period. But there does continue to be violence on US streets as police execute unarmed people with impunity still.
In terms of the character's anger at humanity, I think there is an untold story here as well. After her father is brutally killed in front of her and her mother renounces her family, she is basically an orphan stigmatized by being of the same blood of a perceived traitor. I can't imagine what that would have done to a young girl being shuffled around from orphanage to orphanage and despised by everyone who was entrusted to take care of her. She was also probably bullied and abused by her classmates, peers, and even family members even before she was put into the orphanage system -- a system where children were to be regimented and molded into the perfect Maoist cadre.. And then being thrown into the crazy labor system in the period of the Gang of Four after Mao died. Everyone betrayed her; everyone was a predator out to hurt her; and no one could be trusted whether a faux boyfriend or an opportunistic colleague. This doesn't exactly make someone "Up with People." I would have been surprised if she hadn't sent the communication.
not just 3BP, it's just Netflix is banned in China and TH-cam.
This is not surprising. China is slowly easing its population into "maybe there were some bad parts to the cultural revolution" while working to maintain the loyalty of the people.
How can newton not be aligned with the communist party? He lived in a totally different era
im definitely a fan of the book, but deeply saddened by both shows as it didn't hold a good storyline and didn't do justice to the book. At least I know the cultural revolutions was depicted accurately by you :D
Now I understood why there is this Shen Yun performance
Yeah, I think Shen Yun is doing a great job of showing traditional Chinese culture that the CCP destroyed
@@AllyFromChina So you are a Falun gong cultist ??? If you were to visit China, which I am sure you have not done in a very long time, you would know that it is precisely the place where traditional Chinese culture is actually the most protected and promoted by the government. China is a deeply Confucian society. I have no doubt that if Confucius was alive, he would see Xi Jinping as his most devout disciple and as a true benevolent ruler.
I cannot imagine what life was like living in the People’s Republic of China under Mao Zedong during the Cultural Revolution. 😢💔
I cannot imagine what it was like to be black in America from 1700s until the 1980s, or Native Americans in the 1700 and 1800s. Every major country has a bleak history unfortunately
@@LetsBeHonestImAPrat Unfortunately… 😢💔
Man. Please always keep asking questions with critical thinking... Forget about all these illusory ideologies. Take a look at real hardcore statistics from WorldBank: Chinese population grew from 700 million in 1966 to 930 million in 1976, and its GDP grew from 80 billion USD to 153 billiion USD (almost doubled) during the cultural revolution. You are free to search and do a fact checking on these figures.
If the bloody scene in this 3BP story was some daily routine in any country, such rapid population and economic growth would not happen.
@@LetsBeHonestImAPratOK, tankie
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Very interesting..
The communist manifesto did not promote the abolishment of families but the abolishment of patriachial structures within the family.
even Mao's close ally Deng Xiao Ping and his family were victims of cultural revolution.
I love how China decided that the best way to protect the CCP from accusations that it was a controlling and tyrannical government that banned "propaganda" and limited rights to achieve its revolution in the 70s, was to BAN the show in 2024 that depicted it in this way 🤣🤣🤣🤣
the french revolution and cultural revolution had someting in common,Atheism
Xi is getting older and older. He will be the second Mao.
damn your "howee wody woblem" accent is so adorable haha i love it. never get rid of that! keep it.
...And people compare american liberals to maoists.
The more you learn about human history, the more you want the Aliens to win muhahahah... French Revolution, Chinese Cultural Revolution, Russian Revolution, American Revolution.... History may NOT repeat itself BUT it does rhyme!
Was there much particularly brutal in the American Revolution? I know wars aren't nice but I'm not aware of any big massacres etc from that time
@@michaelmartin9022 NO the Americans saved their brutality for the American Indians 😶
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