as a half Dene man this is really relatable. my Dad was raised outside the reserves and therefore I was never raised traditionally but I don't look white to white people and don't look indigenous to indigenous people. sucks when people like me want to get more traditional teachings and being told that I'm too colonized are that I'm not native enough whilst simultaneously growing up and being treated mostly as an indigenous person by most white people.
Chief McLeod is wrong on so many levels. Metis people are not just half breeds or people who found an indigenous person way back in their family tree. To be Metis you must be related to a Metis ancester (a verified family line). He is also wrong saying we don't have our own language. We do. We speak Michif. And he is wrong to say we don't have our own culture. We do have our own culture and our own music and our own dancing. This just proves why we need to educate our First Nation brothers & sisters and the general public. You should not post this interview without posting the truth in the same interview. To do otherwise, creates discrimination, anger and bad feelings.
I couldn’t agree more. This information is incorrect, MNO has strict criteria to verify that applicants are connected to a verified family line. I am a proud Metis citizen of Ontario whose roots originate from Red River MB and led to a northern Ontario community/Metis settlement with a unique culture/community as per citizenship criteria. To broadly state that anyone from Ontario claiming to be Metis is based on one distant indigenous ancestor is a very broad and ignorant statement. If this were true, I could understand his frustration, but the information being shared in this interview paints a poor picture of the Metis people. The reason some of us are recently discovering our heritage is because our families were felt to be shamed for being Metis and hid it for years. Why can’t we all work together and create a partnership.
@@Bloomsofsoul my great grandfather on my father’s side was Métis, but I was raised by my mother’s family in Ontario after my parents broke up. I was under the impression that I didn’t have any right to participate in those spaces or learn about that part of my heritage since I wasn’t raised by that side of my family and so I wasn’t a part of their cultural community as I grew up, but I don’t think anyone ever said that to me in so many words, so is my impression about that accurate?
DARYL LEROUX could join theese people in ontario Metis Nation are distinct people and the Reservations dont deny we exist we have cousin's on the Resevation today...new comunities that are perfectly along the colonial ONTARIO border lol then USE First Nation ansestry to become metis today ...Metis Nation Have METIS Nation ansestors NOT First Nations ...nobody in eastern Ontario groups went to Rez schools of course not eastern groups arnt Louis Riels peoples and are clearly not Indigenous...%100😂
Well I'm Metis and I went to day school, had birth alerts put out on me, went to Indian hospital, was forcefully sterilized and had my children scooped. are you saying to be Metis we had an easy road? Boy are you mistaken.@@justinfendelet8675
The Metis continue to suffer from the same racism that all mixed blood (aka half breed) peoples have had to endure. They're rejected by the historically European culture as well as with First Nations peoples. The Metis had no say in choosing their historical heritage. And to say they have not been battling in the trenches is absurd! They have been fighting for their legitimate role in Canadian society since long before the Riel Rebellion. What's sad is the dominant white Canadian society is still playing Indigenous nations and tribes against each other.
I do have Native American blood in me, but I don't claim myself as Native. I have just since a child enjoyed the Native way over white peoples. I respect and live my way as close to the heart and soul being true to Native beliefs!!🪶🪶🪶💞✨️
I'm the Metis variety The European mix for Me is German, British, Irish, French and on My mother's side the Nation is Cherokee. I've been getting profiled for Native who are regarded as people of Color. I'm from the "passable white" community but I had an Aunt on Mother's side who looked Full Blooded and My Blood Sister looked more Native than Me or My older Sister.
When your identity was chosen/forced on you, that denied your roots. Now your roots are being discarded as "only for monetary gain". Where are those lost people to go to belong?
I gotta say, I hate this discourse. There's lots of people I know, who are Indigenous, but because of a decision one of their ancestors made, they're expected to live in settler society, and forcibly assimilate. Theres people like me, who know our quantum, and where our family comes from. But because colonialism screwed a lot of us up, some of us don't have that direct connection. Why do we always expect people to just assimilate into settler society??? It doesn't make sense when we are actively fighting against settler society. Taking someone who's mixed, and forcing them into settler society is total bullshit, and is just trying to put people into a box. If only we had some kinf of nation setup for people who are mixed and can prove it, but don't have a direct cultural connection, or community one. Give that nation no fishing or hunting rights, or really any kind of financial advantage, but let them learn traditional ways. Shit, even make traditions for them to follow, unique to that nation if need be. A lot of people want to decolonize in tandem with the Land Back movement, and forcing people who don't fit into settler society, into it, is just more colonialism as I see it. So long as people are committed to just cutting people out, instead of giving them a place to exist, we will constantly see this issue happen. I started my journey when a Métis elder told me I was Métis too. He was right, that's where we come from. But between society tryint to treat people like me like we all just want money, or acting like Ancestry.ca is to blame, is pretty fucked up, not gonna lie. I wish we could do better than this for people who are trying to reconnect, and correct a decision one of their ancestors made a few generations back, when they thought assimilation was the right call. But we are going to keep seeing this as an issue happening, because its more convenient to believe everyon is in it for the money, instead of trying to reconnect with a society other than the settler one.
I agree with what you are saying 100%. Many of us "mixed" people know where we are from . Our ancestors made the decision to settle into mainstream society. I often wonder what led them to make that decision. There needs to be place where we can exist as who we are. We should not be asking for any rights but let us learn in peace what was lost.
@@jackiecharest6207 we really need a new nation, but that'd mean a heavy divestment from Canadian settler society, and they do not want that. If we did that, a lot of people who have grown weary of settler society and the dehumanization that comes with living in it, would want to join up. I think it's very similar to how they only gave the Métis a nationhood after there was significant conflict & pushing back against settler society. But it's super convenient to act like we all want money, rather than to decolonize and find a way forward together. Splitting people out like this is exactly what they want, because it maintains the institutional power of the Canadian state, and their illegal land occupation. Giving space to all the people who are mixed and want to not live as settlers, directly threatens the Canadian state, and they do not want a reckoning on that scale. It's integral to the land theft and resource extraction efforts, to keep as many people living in settler society with their heads down. We want a revolution that takes us back to the old ways, and they want to keep us in line using whatever methods they got.
All right, so let’s break this down for people to understand; I’ll use the example of The Turner Family from the Abitibi Inland Métis Community, which FN says isn’t a Métis Community and doesn’t exist, which we know is untrue. Joseph Turner SR. and Emma had 7 children, all are noted as half-breeds in documents. One child, Elizabeth Turner and their daughter moved to Sault Ste. Marie (Yes, Métis Communities in Ontario had kinship connections with each other, something FN and MMF say we (MNO) don’t have, which is already proven false). SSM is home to the Powley Test, which finally closed the government's gap/lack of judication on who the Métis are because before, it was a free-for-all. Their other daughter, Jane Turner, 3 out of 4 of her children, also noted as Métis/Half-breeds petitioned for Métis Scrip in Ontario in 1905 but was denied. TWO of Joseph Turner Sr./Emma’s children, Charlotte and Philip Turner, moved west (Manitoba, yet again showing community connection to the greater Métis Nation) and got Métis Scrip (which the MMF says is needed to prove someone is Métis in their eyes). So with all this information on just ONE FAMILY from the Abitibi Inland Métis Community, which FN denies exists, if this family is Métis enough in Manitoba, they are Métis enough in Ontario. It’s not one or the other; it’s that this family is Métis.
Very interesting. I just recently found out that I’m not Métis I thought I was through my mothers side, but I’m not. Her father was French and her mother was Ojibwe from Northern Ontario. She never talked much about her culture. She always said that she went to a convent, and she was raised there, in reality, it was residential boarding school I recently found out what reserve/band she is from, she married a white man and she lost all her status, but my auntie which is the matriarch. She got it back in the 1980s and all of us family. We are embracing that part of our culture. And my father’s family were from Ukraine, and I recently found out my genealogy through my matriarchal line, and it goes back to 1832, and all the names that are related to so fascinating and some of these names are so long so many letters I can’t hardly read them! 🤍🖤❤️💛
It's not only governments! It's Society, especially for my Father 😢, who was bullied for being Metis, growing up in the Interlake. He has finally began his healing journey, and is Metis proud. He is in his 80s. I have known who I am, and Metis proud since a child!
Chief Macleod needs to be fact checked. He makes several false statements that discredits his authority on the subject. He erroneously claims anyone with mixed blood after settlement is a potential MNO citizen. Not true. Only those of mixed blood pre-settlement are MNO citizens, especially after the registry reviewed all its registrants. There are other factors he didn't talk about, like culture and community recognition. Another odd thing he suggests is that First Nations oral storytelling is superior to Metis oral storytelling and recorded history. First Nations storytelling was greatly degraded by the Indian Residential School system, so how is that reliable source on its own or as a substitute for written history that documents Ontario's Metis history, such as community petitions, military records, Census data, birth records, etc? That doesn't make sense and why should people outside our community even think they have expertise on our community history, when they were distinct? This interview raises alarm bells that his theory is highly flawed. He certainly attempts to be a First Nation storyteller, but a good story has to have some truth in it, which his didn't. Nice try.
As a Métis person, I too feel this frustration. I'm originally from Saskatchewan but I live now in Halifax. So many people here think that it just means mixed race and there are the so-called Woodland Métis Nation based out of Yarmouth that also have no connection to us either culturally or historically. What's more, a lot of them are appropriating real Métis cultural symbols to displace the Mi'kmaq from their traditional territory. When I do go to cultural events, I feel like I have to carry a copy of my family tree so I can show people that I am one of the real Métis; not one of these pretenders. I don't blame First Nations people for their skepticism or their annoyance; I blame the culture vultures who are fabricating an ancestry to steal benefits that don't belong to them.
It's so insanely frustrating! I have tried to apply for my "native status" for years, and the papers always end up lost in the mail somewhere 🤷🏽♀️ for nearly a decade now, the process just stops dead before my application ever even gets to where it needs to
I know who I am and where I come from, but when it comes to being recognized anywhere outside of the community, the paper from my naming ceremony with my anishinaabe name does not matter.
IF I MAY SUGGEST, SEND IT VIA REGISTERED MAIL, BUT FIRST GET THE NAME OF WHO YOU ARE SENDING IT TO, FIND OUT WHO IS THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT YOU'RE SENDING IT TO. TAKE CARE. :)
@@skullshapedbox YOU'RE WELCOME, BUT KNOW THIS, IF YOU GET FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED, EVERYTHING YOU OWN, IS THEIRS AND THEY CAN TAKE IT AT ANY TIME! THE TRAIL OF TEARS DID A NUMBER ON US ALL, THOSE 4,000 WHICH DIED ON IT, AND THOSE WHO FLED TO THE HILLS AND MOUNTAINS TO ESCAPE THE ROUND UP IN THE 250 WAGONS THEY HERDED THEM OFF IN, IN THE WINTER, SOME WITHOUT SHOES, MOST WITHOUT PROPER CLOTHING FOR SUCH A FORCED JOURNEY. MOST TRIBES DO NOT BELIEVERS OF FATHERS SON. AS FOR ME, I WOULD NOT JOIN SUCH A FOLD OF PEOPLE FOR I SHALL NEVER DENY HIM FOR ANYTHING THIS WORLD HAS TO OFFER, TO INCLUDE BEING RECOGNIZED BY ANY TRIBE. THE CHEROKEE MOTO IS IF YOU HAVE ONE DROP OF CHEROKEE BLOOD, THEN YOU ARE CHEROKEE. THAT IS A JOKE, THEY SHOULD HAVE ADDED, " IF " YOUR ANCESTORS ARE NOT ON THE ENEMIES ROLLS, BAKER OR DAWES, THEN YOU DON'T COUNT. I SAY SCREW THAT MENTALITY, FOR EVEN THOUGH DNA DOES NOT SPECIFY A TRIBE IT FOR CERTAIN DIVULGES THAT YOU ARE NATIVE. THIS IS WHERE FAMILY ORAL STORIES COME INTO PLAY. I AM CONNECTED TO NANCY WARD, A MOST PROMINENT CHEROKEE WOMAN, HOWEVER, I WILL NOT, NOR DO I WANT FEDERAL RECOGNITION BECAUSE WHAT I'VE ACQUIRED IN MY LIFE IS WHAT I WORKED AND EARNED, AND I'LL BE DANG IF HAVING TO BE RECOGNIZED I'D GIVE IT UP TO THE FEDERAL GOV OR TRIBE. SO... WHAT I DID, WAS SHOWED MY ANCESTRY TO THE SOUTHERN CHEROKEE NATION OF THE STATE (THERE ARE OTHER STATE TRIBES) WHICH WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE HA FOR WHAT ITS WORTH LOL LOL I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT FEDERAL HAND OUTS. MY ONLY GOAL WAS TO BE CONNECTED TO MY TRIBE, END OF STORY. WADO TAKE CARE. WISHING YOU WELL. :)
It's the bottom bs. Their protecting their status and check the actual first caste system against natives with natives people who don't conform at the bottom with the women who basically get with the guy gets the status. It's pretty pathetic excuse for such whoristic dynamics and they always a native women with a white guy. Not that it matters but why is it always them telling us about our history and how to handle it. They be the most gatekeepers trying to do cultural genocide.
A Metis friend once told me that part of the problem is with our limited language. Metis should be used only for the distinct nation, but it is still commonly used as Mixed. If we had more words and understood things outside of blood quantum it would make a difference. Another Metis friend passionately told me that Great Lakes Metis communities in Ontario are being painted with the "Pretendian" brush by others.
In the heart of the prairies, where the rivers flow, There's a spirit that rises, like the wind's gentle blow. With a history rich, and a culture so bold, The Métis stand tall, their story told. Oh, the strength of the Métis, it runs deep, From the plains to the forests, it's theirs to keep. With courage and pride, they forge their own way, The Métis spirit, it shines bright every day. Through struggles and hardships, they've always stood strong, Facing adversity, they've proven they belong. With fiddles and jigs, and the Red River carts, The Métis celebrate, with music in their hearts.
Haven’t suffered? Haven’t been affected by residential and day schools? Haven’t been spit on? Please educate yourself my dear ones. I understand your dispute with non- red river claiming Metis identity but please do not fail to see the lived history of the entire Metis people or of elders who were affected by all those things. Please be accurate in the information you spread or it just becomes hate.
Thank you for this video. After watching the video and then reading the comments It does seem to be a loaded topic and complex. I find it helpful for my own positioning. I do have 2 great grandmothers from Wendat nation (2 of the first 3 mix marriages in Quebec). I have been raised (and many ancestors) colonial. So for me its a not brainer... I am proud to have this lineage which is in my blood and in my heart, which inspires me to learn more about First Nations and be an ally and friend, but I have not had to endure any of the First Nations challenges... so no... I cannot claim the privileges, advantages which are due (from treaties) with specific First Nations and Métis Nations. Having said that some of the people below (from Ontario... but also in some other areas) do seem to indicate that they are living the language of métis, the lifestyle of métis and have been doing it for generations... if that is the case... maybe more exploration needs to be done and possibly recognition if that becomes evident. Just my thoughts - thank you mig8etc xo
It is not just Metis that First Nations have these hardships with but also Inuits And North Western Europeans too and even there own fellow First Nationers yeah.
First I’m hearing of the First Nations having issues with Inuit-- I’ve hardly met Inuit people given their territory is northern mostly and I’ve lived close to the 49. Hmm I’m curious what nations have issues with Inuit
By the logic of that "Chief", I can claim to be Metis because I have a little Apache heritage. That said, I am more Irish and Spanish than anything. Hell, I place more emphasis on my Czech-Slovak heritage than what little Apache ancestry I got.
I keep watching videos to understand chiefs position, because I respect First Nations voices. I would like to understand his opinion of the Penetanguishine Petition? It clearly states they have community, are distinctly separate from First Nations, served as loyalists and received land before MB Métis scrip. I would love to hear more about that…
It's more than just his position it's the position of any sane person once you see through the lies and smoke screens of opportunists trying to capitalize on something..
Interesting. As I have shared with you, I grew up not knowing that my Grandmother Ruth was born on the Sisseton Wahpeton Reservation. My search has been primarily spiritual. I am not seeking material gain. If anything, I want a war where poverty, famine, war and more exists for no one regardless of their ethnicities.
This chief's arguments are all 100% disingenuous. The Metiś nation, out of fear of persecution, were forced to go underground for a long, long time. And because the Metiś nation was established by mixed marriages, hundreds of years ago, it's not a fair argument to complain about the complexion and ancestral line of those who identify as Metiś. If there was a limited amount of DNA that you're allowed to possess in order to identify as indigenous, the entire Metiś nation would simply be bred out of existence, it's not fair. These people have the right to exist, and they have the right to be recognized. As a member of the Metiś nation of Ontario. I have the right to my own cultural identity if I so choose. Period. Chief McLeod is it grifter, and should have a lot more respect. Stop gatekeeping indigenous status. Leave the Metiś nation alone P.S- I have personally witnessed individuals monetizing their indigenous status simply because they wanted a free handout from the government. Some communities are even offering one hundred thousand dollar cash handouts for those who register with the indigenous nations. And you're giving US a hard time? Give me a break.
Im Manitoban with just a bit of Cree in me on my fathers side. For the past 3 generations proceeding me, my father, my grandfather, great grandmother, all passed as white. They pretended that the indigenous blood didnt exist. We are directly descended from Cuthbert Grant Jr. Anyone who wants to learn some bloody and super interesting Metis history, look up Cuthbert Grant and The Battle of Seven Oaks.
Informative discussion. I just want to get clarification on one point. Is there a finite amount of funds that are allocated for the support of Indigenous programs provided by the government? A group of people are claiming that they are Metis or have an Indigenous ancestor, and that this gives them entitlement that status First Nations people are getting. There is a finite amount of tax dollars that Canadian taxpayers give to the Canadian government. The Canadian government would be paying these Metis claimants. I can understand how this irritates many in the First Nations community, but the real financial burden is being born by everyone who pays Canadian taxes. What concerns me is that there are people of all kinds, that are saying that they are owed entitlements, without having any truthful criteria to deserve those entitlements. They want to live off the labor of others. This has been an ongoing problem for many decades and it ends up hurting those who were supposed to benefit for legitimate reasons. The treaties that were agreed upon between the First Nations on what would become Canada, and the English Government were business deals of a sort, that outlined an exchange of value and the obligations that came with that exchange of value. The obligation of what would become the Canadian government, was to provide benefits to the decedents of tribes that agreed to the terms of the treaties. That is very clear.
Watching and I just suddenly noticed the captions don’t spell Métis or Inuit right and it makes me feel a type of way. I’ll work on that but yeah good video. ❤
Please excuse my ignorance. I know that I have Metis on my mother's side,as well as Puyallup first Nation. How ever,they are from Montana off of the Little Shell. Migrated to the PNW,and intermarried into the Puyallup tribe some time after Fort Nasquali was built. My my ancestor Angus MacDonald. So I'm not trying to get any benefits or money I'm just trying to find my people and keep that culture alive. So how would I be received.?
Asserting yourselves as being as Native as real Natives makes you an awful person because you don't have pre -colonial continuity and they do and you're stealing from them if you do it.
Connect with the spirits first, figure out who you are and what you believe in, I mean really prepare yourself to interact with Indigenous people without trying to take their place. Don't just go assert yourself like an awful colonizer.
I been finding out my heritage! My DNA shows 3% Indigenous 1% Eastern Woodlands, Algonquin Huron Wendat abenaki or Ojibwe. 1% Mayan and 1% Pantigonia. 97% European. I'm mixed born in the US. My dads family came from Canada and raised in Minnesota. I never knew my heritage but I want to learn my Indigenous heritage. I am poor making end meat to make it in this world. I could not go to college its too dam expensive! I want to ask this Question. Why is it fair for ture Indigenous people get free College and poor mixed blood Indigenous people don't have that right? We were both born on this country! Yes! we need to love not hate! We are all related! Im related to all Indigenous people from South America to Canada. We need to stop looking at the color of are skin and start loving each other. Than we can clean this planet from this hatred. I am part of the first nation! I am Algonquin Huron Wendat! You can't take that away from me! Evan if I don't speak the language or belong to a reservation tribe or clan.
I’d suggest doing research into Indian residential schools Bureau of Indian affairs 60’s scoop Millenial scoop MMIP The Indian Act That’ll give you a sense of some of the systems and policies that have impacted the lived experience of your ancestors from way back when. These were basically bed time stories for me growing up learning about the atrocities my grandparents went through and my uncles Also look at the stats of Indians So much more to being First Nations or Native Indian than culture-
Why do you feel intercultural conflict so strong? I know it exists in cultures across the world, but why is it such a difficult and challenging topic? I'd love to know your feedback, feelings, and understandings in this area which is so often intentionally avoided...
Are Indigenous cultures allowed to be living cultures? How does this discourse harm our Nations ability to to live and grow as it once did? If Nations could come and go before colonization, why has it stopped? How can trust be built between Nations again? Is it true there is only one way to be Indigenous in the settler era? Who has defined Indigeneity before today? How long have our Nations fought for a scrap at the table of "Status" because it was economical or the only way to survive? Can that change now, or will we be doomed to have the same arguments over and over while our land and rights are trampled in the name of manifest destiny?
Great video, and important topic that’s never been more relevant! Many people are in an uncomfortable in-between space with identity thanks to ancestry sites and DNA test. It can be confusing, but when the plot gets twisted it’s always best to remember the core values (or grandfather teachings) that most of us share. Personally I’ve been on a humbling but healing journey as an American discovering that I have Canadian First Nations ancestors but rather than shift from the settler culture I grew up in to one I did not I’ve committed to being a friend and ally to indigenous peoples in the present day, and Mallory you’ve helped inspired me to voice this in my daily life. For the first time this ‘Thanksgiving’ my work will post a land acknowledgment to our social media accounts 🙏🏼
I feel like it's such a hard topic because I hate to deny people of their truth - but I also have to tell people when they are wrong about something. Often when I tell someone they are wrong, i end up getting death threats, or am completely ostracised.
@@akiyamada2306trust is a tricky thing especially when it comes to government and bureaucracy. There is so much erasure that has happened and still happens to this day. There is racism baked into the systems we live within. The current conversation around Metis and FN feels like more attempted erasure of indigenous history, identity and culture. Another way to push us out.
I’m not saying someone should be granted all the same access to hunting and lands when they grew up with a white passing privilege when having a native person in their line… but I’m curious if you were the only one left in your line of your culture… would you want to disappear into your descendants lines and forgotten and purposely not acknowledged because you were one person?
Imo, that's a huge oversimplification. Many of the Métis people here (in Manitoba) are actually of Scottish descent through the Red River settlers. Many of those Métis descendants don't speak the "recognized" Métis language (Michif) either but share the historical commonality of the rebellions which caused the Métis to be recognized as a distinct nation by the colonial government. But really- there's a giant list of reasons why I consider even the "real" Métis Nation to be yet another colonial construct designed to destroy the Treaties. 🤷♀️
@jonnyneace8928 that's actually a huge assumption- that the women who "married out" didn't retain anything of their culture- particularly when the women of certain indigenous nations are considered to be those who communicate and teach the culture to the next generation. You're also assuming that all "Metis" are the same- the result of a French-indigenous union- which, as I originally stated is definitely not the case, particularly among the "Metis" of Red River. My Ancestors signed treaty with the intention that ALL of their descendants would be recognized as indigenous. If you think blood quantum and such was a consideration among indigenous people, think again. You and I don't agree. The so-called Metis and their descendants belong to indigenous nations, full stop. The fact is that nations evolve, as do cultures, when they encounter other nations and cultures. The fact that Colonial powers would like to say that indigenous nations and societies cannot do so is absolutely an attempt to prevent the growth and continuation of indigenous nations as identifiable entities capable of recognition as signatories to the Treaties in order to have free and clear access to ALL indigenous territories and resources.
@jonnyneace8928 you and I see things differently. 🤷♀️ As I already stated, in some nations, cultural teachings are passed on by the mother. In a community wherein the mothers are indigenous, those cultural teachings would have been indigenous. No, that particular community would not have included European ancestors prior to the arrival of Europeans, obviously. However, the suggestion that women in a community together are less capable of influencing the culture of their children is absurd. As for any nation existing or not prior to the arrival of Europeans, new alliances are constantly made- the Iron Confederacy being one example. It sounds to me as though you have an issue with the idea that women can pass on culture as easily, if not more easily than, men. Perhaps that's true of your nation. I was taught that the mindset is what makes, or doesn't make, a person indigenous. And, frankly, I know some people who have far more colonized thinking (while being recognized by the Colonial governments as indigenous) than those who are called "Metis".
@jonnyneace8928 It sounds like your definition of indigeneity is dependant solely upon language with no regard to other teachings and values and is also dependent upon the "purity" of lineage- a very colonial concept. My "speech", as you say, was an observation of the fact that, ironically, it seems you choose to ignore that indigenous nations aren't a monolith and seem to have little actual understanding of the nations from whom the "Metis" were taken. Seeing as you're Chickasaw, that makes sense as, to my knowledge, there are no "Metis" recognized in the United States much less of Chickasaw heritage.
@jonnyneace8928 prior to European arrival, the concept of a person not being fully human was non-existent and children were fully accepted. I doubt that our Ancestors would have had a different word for children of a Lakota-Chickasaw union, for example, regardless of cultural differences between the parents. When our ancestors *chose* to welcome the newcomers to these lands, they identified them as human. The concept of a person being a "half-breed' or "Metis" (yes, I'm aware they're not necessarily the same thing but do have similarities in "blood quantum") is absolutely a European/Colonial construct and, unfortunately, is one which indigenous nations seem to have assimilated all too easily for all of the talk about not assimilating.
This is about real communities that have existed for many, many generations, going back to the middle 1700's. Métis people are recognized in the Canadian constitution as one of the three Indigenous peoples, along with the Inuit and First Nations. The issue the Chief is claiming to be an intractable problem does not exist. The Métis Nation of Ontario uses exactly the same criteria for determining who is a member of its nation as does the Manitoba Métis Federation, which, interestingly, is the institution that is trying the hardest to cast aspersions on the MNO, and for the same reason as the Chief and the Chiefs of Ontario, that being the issue of who gets federal money. They simply do not want to share it with the MNO, so they've started this propaganda war to try to make the MNO appear illegitimate to the Canadian public. And they conveniently avoid the issue of "blood quantum" among their own people by saying, "only we get to decide who is one of us" while demanding the MNO use even more rigourous criteria than it has been using, which, again, is the same as the MMF's. Go figure.
Except we have communities, we have documented language dialects. The MNO is just the governing organization that distributes support to MÉTIS living in Ontario. And really, he should look at his own house first. He has several female staff members who are white, who only have status because they married FN… who USE their cards for tax exemption. Whose KIDS have status for the same reason and they’re also not First Nations. Continuing to twist and manipulate the dialog isn’t okay. And I’m sooooo disappointed to see a company I’ve supported for years endorse this in this way 😢 definitely lost our business and support.
The position taken by the Chiefs of Ontario, in allying themselves with the Manitoba Metis Federation (MMF), is less about principles and more about politics. They don’t seem to recognize or care that the MMF membership criteria is identical to that of the MNO. Someone in Manitoba likewise needs only to demonstrate that s/he descends from a Metis root ancestor, no matter how far back and regardless of the intervening circumstances. So why are they willing to give the MMF a pass, but not the MNO? The answer is nothing more than political expediency.
I am not sure if I understand thod properly. I am from Europa and from what I know many native people where killed by the settlers coming from Europe to live a better life in the states. Hence they are the ones that should keep quite and respect the native people with their old and powerful heritage.
But we have members of European communities with some Indigenous blood who are claiming that they deserve the same status as members of Indigenous communities.
Many people besides Irish Gaels contributed to the bloodline of modern Irish Gaels. Because they married Irish Gaels, spoke Gaelic, adopted Gaelic customs and passed them on to their children.
I dont have any problems with my cousins on the Reservations 😅😅 there's only a ontario eastern fetis and First Nation the peoples there supposed to be from say no that Means No!!! You use First Nation ansestry to claim Metis Nation ...yet we Metis Nation have layers of Metis Ansestors..
We Spaniards had the same problem. As I have already told you, in the Hispanic territories their inhabitants had: -the same nationality, Spanish; whether they were Indians, Asians, peninsulars, mulattoes.... -the same religion; Catholic; -the same general laws for everyone except what you say. The Indian allies of Cortés who defeated the Mexicas traveled to Spain to be decorated by the Spanish kings and to negotiate their privileges to achieve victory. One of the privileges they achieve is: the creation of the Indian Republics. In them the laws that governed were their own as long as they did not go against the Catholic religion = -no human sacrifices -no cannibalism -non-payment of debts with daughters -do not murder innocents in funerals -...etc. They presided over the courts and were their judges accompanied by a Spanish authority, but they were the ones who imposed justice. There was a whole system of Chieftains and Indian authorities that was in charge of all these issues. Hispanic Catholicism is Aristotelian and Thomistic (from Saint Thomas Aquinas who says that if a town has an effective organization, if it does not go against Catholicism it is also valid) And it is curious because many mixed marriages saw that they had many more benefits living according to Indian laws. Then the Spanish spouse became an Indian and lived like an Indian in the Indian Republics. Another benefit was the COMMON LANDS of each Indian community. Lands owned by each Indian community that could only be exploited by them. Despite the inevitable miscegenation with the Spanish in both the Indian Republics and the Spanish Republics, efforts were made to ensure that the CACIQUES WERE PURE INDIANS and it was the Indians themselves who elected them. I think the following could help you solve these problems: - legislation created five centuries ago for the governance of the Indian Republics that must be in Mexico, and -this crowning work of the History of Humanity that is the laws of the Indies. I have NOT read this book but it seems that it explained how the same problems that you have now were solved LAS LEYES DE INDIAS: ORDENAMIENTO DE PROTECCION DE LA MONARQUIA HISPANA A LOS PUEBLOS NATIVOS DE AMERICA de JULIO JOSÉ HENCHE MORILLAS (Autor) THE LAWS OF THE INDIES: ORDER OF PROTECTION OF THE HISPANIC MONARCHY TO THE NATIVE PEOPLE OF AMERICA by JULIO JOSE HENCHE MORILLAS (Author) m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71dKvkf6bsS._SY425_.jpg th-cam.com/video/Va2F6ijA0_o/w-d-xo.html
@@jonnyn8928 TRUE, THEY WERE STILL SPEAKING NAHUATL. THAT'S WHY THE COURTS HAD TRANSLATORS FROM NAHUATL AND OTHER LANGUAGES. SPANISH WAS A LANGUAGE FRANCA, SPAIN NEVER IMPOSED IT. IT'S MORE, THE SPANISH = 1-WE MADE THE GRAMMARS OF THE INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES 2-IT WAS TAUGHT IN INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES THAT RELIGIOUS PEOPLE AND GOVERNORS HAD TO LEARN 3-IN THE UNIVERSITIES THEY WERE TEACHED IN 3 LANGUAGES = NATIVE, SPANISH AND LATIN EVEN INCA GARCILASO LEARNED ITALIAN AND TRANSLATED THE DIVINE COMEDY BUT WHEN THE ENGLISH HELP THE FREEMASONS OF THE LIBERATORS TO SEPARATE FROM SPAIN THEY ABOVE THE INDIAN LAWS THAT GAVE ALL THESE RIGHTS TO THE INDIGENOUS POPULATIONS AND IN CONTRAVENATION OF THESE LAWS THEY IMPOSE ON SPANISH SOMETHING THAT THE MONARCHY NEVER DID
@@jonnyn8928 It is difficult to understand, that process had occurred before in Europe and was called ROMANIZATION. Rome, which was a generating empire, treated all its subjects equally and even non-Romans became emperors. Because the advantages, starting with the ethical, moral, and conceptual ones, were superior to the others and offered you the possibility of moving up in their structure. THE WHOLE MEDITERRANEAN IS FULL OF CITIES ALL WITH THE SAME ELEMENTS THEATERS, FORUMS, COURTS, SCHOOLS, TEMPLES... and SPAIN does the same but in a less violent and MAXIMUM RESPECTFUL way with the INDIGENOUS CULTURES called LOS NATURALES th-cam.com/video/sQ4V9k84FO8/w-d-xo.html
Yes but I'm saying there's a difference between a Nahuatl speaker with some aspect of Spanish blood and a Spanish speaker of some aspect of Indian blood? Right? Culture is the difference.
@@jonnyn8928 I don't understand, are you saying that having more or less Spanish or Indian blood makes a cultural difference? In the Hispanic world this is understood as RACISM. I think it is not true, there are many documented mestizos who were children of Hispanic nobles and Indian nobles who were educated in one culture or another, depending on whether the father or mother was noble and the difference was marked by EDUCATION, EDUCATION MAKES CULTURE AND CULTURE HISPANIC IS LIKE ROME, IT ASSIMILATES AND MIXES THE CULTURE OF ALL PARTS OF ITS EMPIRE For example, in dancing, in all our countries when dancing we tap our feet. I would have sworn that it was a European medieval custom, but you have it in front of you and you don't see it. In POW WOW, when you dance, you set the rhythm with your feet, and if you put shoes with heels on those feet, you have the clicking of heels. It is in all Hispanic countries but in Spain only in Flamenco whose greatest influence is Hispanic American music. It is an Indian custom of the Caribbean "areitos" or the Mexica dances, Tlaxcaltecas...etc. that were mixed with European choreographies...ALL OUR CULTURE IS THAT= MESTIZATION AND IT WAS A SUCCESS, WE WERE THE 1 POWER, UNTIL THE ENGLISH AND FRENCH DIVIDED US
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This guy forgets a whole lot of shit my ancestors came from. Catholic churches abused the nation out of us and alot of stuff was burned to the ground. So just cause what he isn't aware of the torture that destroyed our freedom to practise our beliefs and ceremonies.
As i cannot relate i find this talk a bit bizarre. What are 1 nations losing by goverment accept 0,5 nations as sovereign nations? I know the answer but feel like asking anyway.
Well as someone who is indigenous first nations, you either are native or you’re not us indigenous people have always said it’s a way of life so if you aren’t connected to your native people, and you’re not living that way, then you’re simply not native because it’s a way of life so if these people had mixed ancestry, but we’re actually living the traditional native way and part of the native culture. Then they would be viewed as native but for whatever reason they aren’t and they want to be their own special group that doesn’t make them native but I can see where native people could be kind of rubbed the wrong way by these people trying to pose as another native substitute groupand they’re just not
Exactly. If the Metis were native, they wouldn't exist. The expectation of matriarchal native cultures would be that the male from outside of the culture marrying a woman from the culture would be adopted into her culture. Not the reverse.
Much like how the Irish Gaels will say if you married in and spoke the language and stood up for Ireland then you and your descendants are as Irish Gaelic as the others. The medieval era Anglo Normans and the industrial era diasporic Irlandiani represent examples of this. The Choctaw would consider matrilineal heritage for the ethnicity of a person. So if a Black man and a Choctaw woman had children they'd be considered full blood. Ethnicity is inherited from the mother. Same concept, there are European descendants in Indigenous Nations who have been conformed to Indigenous culture. Meanwhile, there are European cultures with assimilated Indigenous ancestry, like the French Canadians who call themselves Metis.
Interestingly, historically, the communities which now identify as "Métis" were considered to be indigenous by indigenous nations. Then Colonial powers decided that they would treat these communities as non-indigenous due to the inclusion of non-indigenous peoples and began imposing "blood quantum" rules with regards to things such as Treaties. It's an incredibly complex topic and history, requiring the ability to suspend what one "thinks" they know and place themselves into the situation as it would have been at that time then move forward through the entire process to understand where we got to now from where it started. Not everyone has the time, willingness or ability to do so.
when the early settlers came from Europe, was there metis on turtle Island before all the imagrints. There were true native 100 % before metis existed. Were metis here before the original turtle ppl. Thats the point just tell truth metis are from Europe just addmit it lol
"Metis people" have ancestral roots on turtle Island and Europa..is there a problem with that? Maybe you just know absolutly nothing about irish or French or Scottish being indigenous to europe .they're natives on the earth too as are our turtle ancestors...metis pride you'll just have to accept we are still here and that some have double the indigenous pride in our families..
As far as claiming to be metis if blood quantity is less than 1/4 then one is considered a descendant of the indigenous tribe not an enrolled member, thus you do not get benefits that i know of. Maybe if a close relative that is enrolled passes and the descendant is the only survivor its possible to claim a credit. In United states, anyway.
@ShyRogato just contributing to the topic that Mallory was bringing forth. That's why I clarified what goes on in the USA. Not trying to compare. Do you know how it works in Canada? Educate me.
There's also the perspective from some of us who consider ourselves to be non-status rather than Metis that there's a push from the colonial government to try to get as many non-status "enrolled" as "Metis" in order to cover up the mess they made of our communities and some people's connection to community with disenfranchisement policies in the Indian Act. When you "should" have status through the new "reinstatements" and your family's "historic" (read: mother's) band chose to instate rules of "membership" based on colonial ideas of indigeneity (ie "blood quantum") when Lovelace passed in the 80s, yet you were raised with cultural knowledge (women carry and teach the culture to the next generations) there's a huge problem. "Canada" created huge problems that they are only magnifying with the push to enroll non-status people as "Metis". I personally see this push as a furthering of the genocidal agenda of the colonial state. After generations of removing women (among other groups- including those who enrolled in the military and anyone who might have achieved a university education) from indigenous nations while indoctrinating the children remaining within those nations into a colonial mindset/understanding of what it means to be indigenous (by literally removing them to residential schools), asking those same nations to make "rules for membership" without the input of those who had been "reinstated to address the problems the Indian Act made" is beyond disingenuous.
@@deboraheischen5783In Canada, we are addressing issues created by the colonial government forcibly removing "status" from certain groups within indigenous nations through a legislative policy called "the Indian Act". The rules for removal of status have changed many times in the 150 years the policy has been in place but, at various times, has included policies which removed "status", examples of which are: An indigenous person got a university education An indigenous person enrolled in the military An indigenous woman married a non-status man And "Selling" of status through the scrip system (which often happened when Canada was withholding agreed upon rations while simultaneously preventing people from hunting/trapping/fishing in their traditional territories and not providing agreed upon "farming implements"- "two oxen and a plough for every family"). In addition, Canada implemented policies which "gave" status to a non-status woman if she married a man with recognized status and full status to their children. After a while, they implemented a policy which said that the mother couldn't be non-status in two successive generations (the so called double mother rule) while ignoring any status which had previously been "granted" or removed. There's more. A lot more.
Our treaties have no end date. Once a person claims Métis status, there is no road back to enrollment as a "status" "Indian" (as we are called under the Act). Métis people have no treaties. Pushing non-status people to enroll as Métis (by providing carrots such as funding) is an attempted rush towards their (Canada's) end game of the end of recognition of indigenous people- and the Treaties, by extension.
Your proud Metis have abandoned their status to pursue Treaty Indian money through land n specific claims like Cows n Plows. It's all about money and the bs they bring to our reserves.
Wth are you even talking about? And everything Canada is about is for the land! Métis lost their land just the same, none of you can show a genealogy proving your genealogy has not been “mixed” so stfu.
My last Native and Irish ancestors left those cultures between 1870-1940. I am not them, I'm just American, Metis are just white Canadian with bits of native heritage. Period..
I guess this guy needs a primer on who is indigenous. He says (a new historic community) just popped up. Completely wrong.! Crown land is everyone’s land.. we can harvest when we want. I think he should do some homework on what the criteria is to get a citizenship card.. we also have to go back to the fur trade, and go back to a metis ancestor, but we have several First Nation people that we come from- sounds like this fella is worried that a little slice of the pie is going to the government approved metis people. Let’s get our head out of our amass, and maybe he should get a d.n.a test to prove he is a fullblood chief and First Nation person. Lots of white in this fellla as well. Speaking lies…
as a half Dene man this is really relatable. my Dad was raised outside the reserves and therefore I was never raised traditionally but I don't look white to white people and don't look indigenous to indigenous people. sucks when people like me want to get more traditional teachings and being told that I'm too colonized are that I'm not native enough whilst simultaneously growing up and being treated mostly as an indigenous person by most white people.
Chief McLeod is wrong on so many levels. Metis people are not just half breeds or people who found an indigenous person way back in their family tree. To be Metis you must be related to a Metis ancester (a verified family line). He is also wrong saying we don't have our own language. We do. We speak Michif. And he is wrong to say we don't have our own culture. We do have our own culture and our own music and our own dancing. This just proves why we need to educate our First Nation brothers & sisters and the general public. You should not post this interview without posting the truth in the same interview. To do otherwise, creates discrimination, anger and bad feelings.
I couldn’t agree more. This information is incorrect, MNO has strict criteria to verify that applicants are connected to a verified family line. I am a proud Metis citizen of Ontario whose roots originate from Red River MB and led to a northern Ontario community/Metis settlement with a unique culture/community as per citizenship criteria. To broadly state that anyone from Ontario claiming to be Metis is based on one distant indigenous ancestor is a very broad and ignorant statement. If this were true, I could understand his frustration, but the information being shared in this interview paints a poor picture of the Metis people. The reason some of us are recently discovering our heritage is because our families were felt to be shamed for being Metis and hid it for years. Why can’t we all work together and create a partnership.
Sister! My family line is verified all the way back to Manitoba as well. Happy to meet another member from MNO.@@Bloomsofsoul
@@Bloomsofsoul my great grandfather on my father’s side was Métis, but I was raised by my mother’s family in Ontario after my parents broke up. I was under the impression that I didn’t have any right to participate in those spaces or learn about that part of my heritage since I wasn’t raised by that side of my family and so I wasn’t a part of their cultural community as I grew up, but I don’t think anyone ever said that to me in so many words, so is my impression about that accurate?
DARYL LEROUX could join theese people in ontario Metis Nation are distinct people and the Reservations dont deny we exist we have cousin's on the Resevation today...new comunities that are perfectly along the colonial ONTARIO border lol then USE First Nation ansestry to become metis today ...Metis Nation Have METIS Nation ansestors NOT First Nations ...nobody in eastern Ontario groups went to Rez schools of course not eastern groups arnt Louis Riels peoples and are clearly not Indigenous...%100😂
Well I'm Metis and I went to day school, had birth alerts put out on me, went to Indian hospital, was forcefully sterilized and had my children scooped. are you saying to be Metis we had an easy road? Boy are you mistaken.@@justinfendelet8675
As a Metis person I find this incredibly offensive and this "chief" is a disgrace
The Metis continue to suffer from the same racism that all mixed blood (aka half breed) peoples have had to endure. They're rejected by the historically European culture as well as with First Nations peoples. The Metis had no say in choosing their historical heritage. And to say they have not been battling in the trenches is absurd! They have been fighting for their legitimate role in Canadian society since long before the Riel Rebellion. What's sad is the dominant white Canadian society is still playing Indigenous nations and tribes against each other.
Thank you Mallory and Chief McLead for discussing this issue. I was unaware of this issue.
Plus, great work on the animation and production!
I do have Native American blood in me, but I don't claim myself as Native. I have just since a child enjoyed the Native way over white peoples. I respect and live my way as close to the heart and soul being true to Native beliefs!!🪶🪶🪶💞✨️
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I'm the Metis variety The European mix for Me is German, British, Irish, French and on My mother's side the Nation is Cherokee. I've been getting profiled for Native who are regarded as people of Color. I'm from the "passable white" community but I had an Aunt on Mother's side who looked Full Blooded and My Blood Sister looked more Native than Me or My older Sister.
When your identity was chosen/forced on you, that denied your roots. Now your roots are being discarded as "only for monetary gain". Where are those lost people to go to belong?
I gotta say, I hate this discourse. There's lots of people I know, who are Indigenous, but because of a decision one of their ancestors made, they're expected to live in settler society, and forcibly assimilate. Theres people like me, who know our quantum, and where our family comes from. But because colonialism screwed a lot of us up, some of us don't have that direct connection.
Why do we always expect people to just assimilate into settler society??? It doesn't make sense when we are actively fighting against settler society. Taking someone who's mixed, and forcing them into settler society is total bullshit, and is just trying to put people into a box.
If only we had some kinf of nation setup for people who are mixed and can prove it, but don't have a direct cultural connection, or community one. Give that nation no fishing or hunting rights, or really any kind of financial advantage, but let them learn traditional ways. Shit, even make traditions for them to follow, unique to that nation if need be. A lot of people want to decolonize in tandem with the Land Back movement, and forcing people who don't fit into settler society, into it, is just more colonialism as I see it. So long as people are committed to just cutting people out, instead of giving them a place to exist, we will constantly see this issue happen.
I started my journey when a Métis elder told me I was Métis too. He was right, that's where we come from. But between society tryint to treat people like me like we all just want money, or acting like Ancestry.ca is to blame, is pretty fucked up, not gonna lie.
I wish we could do better than this for people who are trying to reconnect, and correct a decision one of their ancestors made a few generations back, when they thought assimilation was the right call.
But we are going to keep seeing this as an issue happening, because its more convenient to believe everyon is in it for the money, instead of trying to reconnect with a society other than the settler one.
I agree with what you are saying 100%. Many of us "mixed" people know where we are from . Our ancestors made the decision to settle into mainstream society. I often wonder what led them to make that decision. There needs to be place where we can exist as who we are. We should not be asking for any rights but let us learn in peace what was lost.
@@jackiecharest6207 we really need a new nation, but that'd mean a heavy divestment from Canadian settler society, and they do not want that. If we did that, a lot of people who have grown weary of settler society and the dehumanization that comes with living in it, would want to join up. I think it's very similar to how they only gave the Métis a nationhood after there was significant conflict & pushing back against settler society. But it's super convenient to act like we all want money, rather than to decolonize and find a way forward together. Splitting people out like this is exactly what they want, because it maintains the institutional power of the Canadian state, and their illegal land occupation. Giving space to all the people who are mixed and want to not live as settlers, directly threatens the Canadian state, and they do not want a reckoning on that scale. It's integral to the land theft and resource extraction efforts, to keep as many people living in settler society with their heads down.
We want a revolution that takes us back to the old ways, and they want to keep us in line using whatever methods they got.
sounds like someone with one Indigenous ancestor from 150 years ago to me..
@@Metawenas someone who is 100 years removed from the last Indigenous ancestor, you're right.
@@Metawenthese people are just trying to assert themselves inappropriately and then crying victim.
This interview contains many inaccuracies about the Métis people, as other commenters have accurately addressed.
he obviosly has european dna, this guys needs to shut his mouth fr.
All right, so let’s break this down for people to understand; I’ll use the example of The Turner Family from the Abitibi Inland Métis Community, which FN says isn’t a Métis Community and doesn’t exist, which we know is untrue. Joseph Turner SR. and Emma had 7 children, all are noted as half-breeds in documents. One child, Elizabeth Turner and their daughter moved to Sault Ste. Marie (Yes, Métis Communities in Ontario had kinship connections with each other, something FN and MMF say we (MNO) don’t have, which is already proven false). SSM is home to the Powley Test, which finally closed the government's gap/lack of judication on who the Métis are because before, it was a free-for-all. Their other daughter, Jane Turner, 3 out of 4 of her children, also noted as Métis/Half-breeds petitioned for Métis Scrip in Ontario in 1905 but was denied. TWO of Joseph Turner Sr./Emma’s children, Charlotte and Philip Turner, moved west (Manitoba, yet again showing community connection to the greater Métis Nation) and got Métis Scrip (which the MMF says is needed to prove someone is Métis in their eyes). So with all this information on just ONE FAMILY from the Abitibi Inland Métis Community, which FN denies exists, if this family is Métis enough in Manitoba, they are Métis enough in Ontario. It’s not one or the other; it’s that this family is Métis.
Thank you so much for sharing that! 🙏🏽🧡
Very interesting. I just recently found out that I’m not Métis I thought I was through my mothers side, but I’m not. Her father was French and her mother was Ojibwe from Northern Ontario.
She never talked much about her culture. She always said that she went to a convent, and she was raised there, in reality, it was residential boarding school I recently found out what reserve/band she is from, she married a white man and she lost all her status, but my auntie which is the matriarch. She got it back in the 1980s and all of us family. We are embracing that part of our culture.
And my father’s family were from Ukraine, and I recently found out my genealogy through my matriarchal line, and it goes back to 1832, and all the names that are related to so fascinating and some of these names are so long so many letters I can’t hardly read them!
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He's wrong. And pretty ignorant if you ask me.
He's not wrong at all. The idea that random white people with Indigenous ancestry can demand to be considered as Native as Native people is awful.
As a random white person with Indigenous ancestry.
@@jonnyn8928 that is a white man tf
So your forced to remain white?
It's not only governments! It's Society, especially for my Father 😢, who was bullied for being Metis, growing up in the Interlake. He has finally began his healing journey, and is Metis proud. He is in his 80s. I have known who I am, and Metis proud since a child!
Chief Macleod needs to be fact checked. He makes several false statements that discredits his authority on the subject. He erroneously claims anyone with mixed blood after settlement is a potential MNO citizen. Not true. Only those of mixed blood pre-settlement are MNO citizens, especially after the registry reviewed all its registrants. There are other factors he didn't talk about, like culture and community recognition. Another odd thing he suggests is that First Nations oral storytelling is superior to Metis oral storytelling and recorded history. First Nations storytelling was greatly degraded by the Indian Residential School system, so how is that reliable source on its own or as a substitute for written history that documents Ontario's Metis history, such as community petitions, military records, Census data, birth records, etc? That doesn't make sense and why should people outside our community even think they have expertise on our community history, when they were distinct? This interview raises alarm bells that his theory is highly flawed. He certainly attempts to be a First Nation storyteller, but a good story has to have some truth in it, which his didn't. Nice try.
As a Métis person, I too feel this frustration. I'm originally from Saskatchewan but I live now in Halifax. So many people here think that it just means mixed race and there are the so-called Woodland Métis Nation based out of Yarmouth that also have no connection to us either culturally or historically. What's more, a lot of them are appropriating real Métis cultural symbols to displace the Mi'kmaq from their traditional territory. When I do go to cultural events, I feel like I have to carry a copy of my family tree so I can show people that I am one of the real Métis; not one of these pretenders. I don't blame First Nations people for their skepticism or their annoyance; I blame the culture vultures who are fabricating an ancestry to steal benefits that don't belong to them.
I really appreciate the commentary on the rigours of traditional science. I think that will be a helpful tool for educating non-Indigenous people
It's so insanely frustrating! I have tried to apply for my "native status" for years, and the papers always end up lost in the mail somewhere 🤷🏽♀️ for nearly a decade now, the process just stops dead before my application ever even gets to where it needs to
I know who I am and where I come from, but when it comes to being recognized anywhere outside of the community, the paper from my naming ceremony with my anishinaabe name does not matter.
IF I MAY SUGGEST, SEND IT VIA REGISTERED MAIL, BUT FIRST GET THE NAME OF WHO YOU ARE SENDING IT TO, FIND OUT WHO IS THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT YOU'RE SENDING IT TO. TAKE CARE. :)
@@wheepingwillow24u17thank you! Will try this next
@@skullshapedbox YOU'RE WELCOME, BUT KNOW THIS, IF YOU GET FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED, EVERYTHING YOU OWN, IS THEIRS AND THEY CAN TAKE IT AT ANY TIME! THE TRAIL OF TEARS DID A NUMBER ON US ALL, THOSE 4,000 WHICH DIED ON IT, AND THOSE WHO FLED TO THE HILLS AND MOUNTAINS TO ESCAPE THE ROUND UP IN THE 250 WAGONS THEY HERDED THEM OFF IN, IN THE WINTER, SOME WITHOUT SHOES, MOST WITHOUT PROPER CLOTHING FOR SUCH A FORCED JOURNEY. MOST TRIBES DO NOT BELIEVERS OF FATHERS SON. AS FOR ME, I WOULD NOT JOIN SUCH A FOLD OF PEOPLE FOR I SHALL NEVER DENY HIM FOR ANYTHING THIS WORLD HAS TO OFFER, TO INCLUDE BEING RECOGNIZED BY ANY TRIBE. THE CHEROKEE MOTO IS IF YOU HAVE ONE DROP OF CHEROKEE BLOOD, THEN YOU ARE CHEROKEE. THAT IS A JOKE, THEY SHOULD HAVE ADDED, " IF " YOUR ANCESTORS ARE NOT ON THE ENEMIES ROLLS, BAKER OR DAWES, THEN YOU DON'T COUNT. I SAY SCREW THAT MENTALITY, FOR EVEN THOUGH DNA DOES NOT SPECIFY A TRIBE IT FOR CERTAIN DIVULGES THAT YOU ARE NATIVE. THIS IS WHERE FAMILY ORAL STORIES COME INTO PLAY. I AM CONNECTED TO NANCY WARD, A MOST PROMINENT CHEROKEE WOMAN, HOWEVER, I WILL NOT, NOR DO I WANT FEDERAL RECOGNITION BECAUSE WHAT I'VE ACQUIRED IN MY LIFE IS WHAT I WORKED AND EARNED, AND I'LL BE DANG IF HAVING TO BE RECOGNIZED I'D GIVE IT UP TO THE FEDERAL GOV OR TRIBE. SO... WHAT I DID, WAS SHOWED MY ANCESTRY TO THE SOUTHERN CHEROKEE NATION OF THE STATE (THERE ARE OTHER STATE TRIBES) WHICH WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE HA FOR WHAT ITS WORTH LOL LOL I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT FEDERAL HAND OUTS. MY ONLY GOAL WAS TO BE CONNECTED TO MY TRIBE, END OF STORY. WADO TAKE CARE. WISHING YOU WELL. :)
It's the bottom bs. Their protecting their status and check the actual first caste system against natives with natives people who don't conform at the bottom with the women who basically get with the guy gets the status. It's pretty pathetic excuse for such whoristic dynamics and they always a native women with a white guy. Not that it matters but why is it always them telling us about our history and how to handle it. They be the most gatekeepers trying to do cultural genocide.
A Metis friend once told me that part of the problem is with our limited language. Metis should be used only for the distinct nation, but it is still commonly used as Mixed. If we had more words and understood things outside of blood quantum it would make a difference. Another Metis friend passionately told me that Great Lakes Metis communities in Ontario are being painted with the "Pretendian" brush by others.
They're all Pretendian because none of their communities existed before Europeans. Unlike our ancestors among the Chickasaw.
In the heart of the prairies, where the rivers flow,
There's a spirit that rises, like the wind's gentle blow.
With a history rich, and a culture so bold,
The Métis stand tall, their story told.
Oh, the strength of the Métis, it runs deep,
From the plains to the forests, it's theirs to keep.
With courage and pride, they forge their own way,
The Métis spirit, it shines bright every day.
Through struggles and hardships, they've always stood strong,
Facing adversity, they've proven they belong.
With fiddles and jigs, and the Red River carts,
The Métis celebrate, with music in their hearts.
Haven’t suffered? Haven’t been affected by residential and day schools? Haven’t been spit on? Please educate yourself my dear ones. I understand your dispute with non- red river claiming Metis identity but please do not fail to see the lived history of the entire Metis people or of elders who were affected by all those things. Please be accurate in the information you spread or it just becomes hate.
Thank you for this video. After watching the video and then reading the comments It does seem to be a loaded topic and complex. I find it helpful for my own positioning. I do have 2 great grandmothers from Wendat nation (2 of the first 3 mix marriages in Quebec). I have been raised (and many ancestors) colonial. So for me its a not brainer... I am proud to have this lineage which is in my blood and in my heart, which inspires me to learn more about First Nations and be an ally and friend, but I have not had to endure any of the First Nations challenges... so no... I cannot claim the privileges, advantages which are due (from treaties) with specific First Nations and Métis Nations. Having said that some of the people below (from Ontario... but also in some other areas) do seem to indicate that they are living the language of métis, the lifestyle of métis and have been doing it for generations... if that is the case... maybe more exploration needs to be done and possibly recognition if that becomes evident. Just my thoughts - thank you mig8etc xo
It is not just Metis that First Nations have these hardships with but also Inuits And North Western Europeans too and even there own fellow First Nationers yeah.
They boo everyone.
First I’m hearing of the First Nations having issues with Inuit-- I’ve hardly met Inuit people given their territory is northern mostly and I’ve lived close to the 49. Hmm I’m curious what nations have issues with Inuit
By the logic of that "Chief", I can claim to be Metis because I have a little Apache heritage. That said, I am more Irish and Spanish than anything. Hell, I place more emphasis on my Czech-Slovak heritage than what little Apache ancestry I got.
I keep watching videos to understand chiefs position, because I respect First Nations voices. I would like to understand his opinion of the Penetanguishine Petition? It clearly states they have community, are distinctly separate from First Nations, served as loyalists and received land before MB Métis scrip. I would love to hear more about that…
Well his voice is not to be respected JUST because he's First Nations, but because he's right..
It's more than just his position it's the position of any sane person once you see through the lies and smoke screens of opportunists trying to capitalize on something..
Interesting. As I have shared with you, I grew up not knowing that my Grandmother Ruth was born on the Sisseton Wahpeton Reservation. My search has been primarily spiritual. I am not seeking material gain. If anything, I want a war where poverty, famine, war and more exists for no one regardless of their ethnicities.
Agreed. But white people with Indigenous ancestry from 100 + years ago shouldn't be demanding Indigenous rights.
@@jonnyn8928 And I am not doing it
Such an expert on who is indigenous- he would be a leader in the conflicts we find ourselves in.
I was under the impression Chief McLeod didnt grow up in the culture? He reconnected later in life....
Thank you for sharing this. This raises awareness and I learned something today
Very interesting. Thanks for highlighting this.
This chief's arguments are all 100% disingenuous. The Metiś nation, out of fear of persecution, were forced to go underground for a long, long time.
And because the Metiś nation was established by mixed marriages, hundreds of years ago, it's not a fair argument to complain about the complexion and ancestral line of those who identify as Metiś. If there was a limited amount of DNA that you're allowed to possess in order to identify as indigenous, the entire Metiś nation would simply be bred out of existence, it's not fair.
These people have the right to exist, and they have the right to be recognized.
As a member of the Metiś nation of Ontario. I have the right to my own cultural identity if I so choose. Period.
Chief McLeod is it grifter, and should have a lot more respect. Stop gatekeeping indigenous status. Leave the Metiś nation alone
P.S- I have personally witnessed individuals monetizing their indigenous status simply because they wanted a free handout from the government. Some communities are even offering one hundred thousand dollar cash handouts for those who register with the indigenous nations.
And you're giving US a hard time? Give me a break.
Im Manitoban with just a bit of Cree in me on my fathers side. For the past 3 generations proceeding me, my father, my grandfather, great grandmother, all passed as white. They pretended that the indigenous blood didnt exist. We are directly descended from Cuthbert Grant Jr. Anyone who wants to learn some bloody and super interesting Metis history, look up Cuthbert Grant and The Battle of Seven Oaks.
Informative discussion. I just want to get clarification on one point. Is there a finite amount of funds that are allocated for the support of Indigenous programs provided by the government? A group of people are claiming that they are Metis or have an Indigenous ancestor, and that this gives them entitlement that status First Nations people are getting. There is a finite amount of tax dollars that Canadian taxpayers give to the Canadian government. The Canadian government would be paying these Metis claimants. I can understand how this irritates many in the First Nations community, but the real financial burden is being born by everyone who pays Canadian taxes.
What concerns me is that there are people of all kinds, that are saying that they are owed entitlements, without having any truthful criteria to deserve those entitlements. They want to live off the labor of others. This has been an ongoing problem for many decades and it ends up hurting those who were supposed to benefit for legitimate reasons.
The treaties that were agreed upon between the First Nations on what would become Canada, and the English Government were business deals of a sort, that outlined an exchange of value and the obligations that came with that exchange of value. The obligation of what would become the Canadian government, was to provide benefits to the decedents of tribes that agreed to the terms of the treaties. That is very clear.
Watching and I just suddenly noticed the captions don’t spell Métis or Inuit right and it makes me feel a type of way. I’ll work on that but yeah good video. ❤
Please excuse my ignorance. I know that I have Metis on my mother's side,as well as Puyallup first Nation. How ever,they are from Montana off of the Little Shell. Migrated to the PNW,and intermarried into the Puyallup tribe some time after Fort Nasquali was built. My my ancestor Angus MacDonald. So I'm not trying to get any benefits or money I'm just trying to find my people and keep that culture alive. So how would I be received.?
Spend a few years in reflective meditation first. Don't just assertively barge in there like an asshole. Native people don't respect that. Period.
Study your ancestors' culture from a distance. That's how it's supposed to be.
For people like you and me that's how it's supposed to be.
Asserting yourselves as being as Native as real Natives makes you an awful person because you don't have pre -colonial continuity and they do and you're stealing from them if you do it.
Connect with the spirits first, figure out who you are and what you believe in, I mean really prepare yourself to interact with Indigenous people without trying to take their place. Don't just go assert yourself like an awful colonizer.
I been finding out my heritage! My DNA shows 3% Indigenous 1% Eastern Woodlands, Algonquin Huron Wendat abenaki or Ojibwe. 1% Mayan and 1% Pantigonia. 97% European. I'm mixed born in the US. My dads family came from Canada and raised in Minnesota. I never knew my heritage but I want to learn my Indigenous heritage. I am poor making end meat to make it in this world. I could not go to college its too dam expensive! I want to ask this Question. Why is it fair for ture Indigenous people get free College and poor mixed blood Indigenous people don't have that right? We were both born on this country! Yes! we need to love not hate! We are all related! Im related to all Indigenous people from South America to Canada. We need to stop looking at the color of are skin and start loving each other. Than we can clean this planet from this hatred. I am part of the first nation! I am Algonquin Huron Wendat! You can't take that away from me! Evan if I don't speak the language or belong to a reservation tribe or clan.
3% is nothing- why not be proud of being 97% white ? You’ve been that your whole life haven’t you ?
I’d suggest doing research into Indian residential schools
Bureau of Indian affairs
60’s scoop
Millenial scoop
MMIP
The Indian Act
That’ll give you a sense of some of the systems and policies that have impacted the lived experience of your ancestors from way back when.
These were basically bed time stories for me growing up learning about the atrocities my grandparents went through and my uncles
Also look at the stats of Indians
So much more to being First Nations or Native Indian than culture-
" Marry Chistmas All "🎅 🤶
Bottom line? Both cultures are dipping into the same Federal tax dollar pot. That's the essence of the conflict.
The other one is trying to steal their rights.
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Interesting topic Mallory 😊
I'm so glad to hear you think so!! ❤️ Chi-miigwetch for the support
@MalloryRoseCo I love what you're doing. 🪶
Chi Miigwech to you, Mallory🤗
Why do you feel intercultural conflict so strong? I know it exists in cultures across the world, but why is it such a difficult and challenging topic? I'd love to know your feedback, feelings, and understandings in this area which is so often intentionally avoided...
Are Indigenous cultures allowed to be living cultures? How does this discourse harm our Nations ability to to live and grow as it once did? If Nations could come and go before colonization, why has it stopped? How can trust be built between Nations again? Is it true there is only one way to be Indigenous in the settler era? Who has defined Indigeneity before today? How long have our Nations fought for a scrap at the table of "Status" because it was economical or the only way to survive? Can that change now, or will we be doomed to have the same arguments over and over while our land and rights are trampled in the name of manifest destiny?
Great video, and important topic that’s never been more relevant! Many people are in an uncomfortable in-between space with identity thanks to ancestry sites and DNA test. It can be confusing, but when the plot gets twisted it’s always best to remember the core values (or grandfather teachings) that most of us share. Personally I’ve been on a humbling but healing journey as an American discovering that I have Canadian First Nations ancestors but rather than shift from the settler culture I grew up in to one I did not I’ve committed to being a friend and ally to indigenous peoples in the present day, and Mallory you’ve helped inspired me to voice this in my daily life. For the first time this ‘Thanksgiving’ my work will post a land acknowledgment to our social media accounts 🙏🏼
I feel like it's such a hard topic because I hate to deny people of their truth - but I also have to tell people when they are wrong about something.
Often when I tell someone they are wrong, i end up getting death threats, or am completely ostracised.
@@akiyamada2306trust is a tricky thing especially when it comes to government and bureaucracy. There is so much erasure that has happened and still happens to this day. There is racism baked into the systems we live within.
The current conversation around Metis and FN feels like more attempted erasure of indigenous history, identity and culture. Another way to push us out.
I as well .
le seul peuple métis vient de la rivière Rouge
I’m not saying someone should be granted all the same access to hunting and lands when they grew up with a white passing privilege when having a native person in their line… but I’m curious if you were the only one left in your line of your culture… would you want to disappear into your descendants lines and forgotten and purposely not acknowledged because you were one person?
I don't care if you're trying to steal it from someone who has less than you and has historically suffered more than you.
Indigenous Nations have nothing, yet you wanna take from them.
@@jonnyn8928agreed. 100%.
Metis became when the Canadian french fur trappers married the aneshinabe woman and took on the indigenous way of life.
Imo, that's a huge oversimplification.
Many of the Métis people here (in Manitoba) are actually of Scottish descent through the Red River settlers.
Many of those Métis descendants don't speak the "recognized" Métis language (Michif) either but share the historical commonality of the rebellions which caused the Métis to be recognized as a distinct nation by the colonial government.
But really- there's a giant list of reasons why I consider even the "real" Métis Nation to be yet another colonial construct designed to destroy the Treaties. 🤷♀️
@jonnyneace8928 that's actually a huge assumption- that the women who "married out" didn't retain anything of their culture- particularly when the women of certain indigenous nations are considered to be those who communicate and teach the culture to the next generation.
You're also assuming that all "Metis" are the same- the result of a French-indigenous union- which, as I originally stated is definitely not the case, particularly among the "Metis" of Red River.
My Ancestors signed treaty with the intention that ALL of their descendants would be recognized as indigenous. If you think blood quantum and such was a consideration among indigenous people, think again.
You and I don't agree. The so-called Metis and their descendants belong to indigenous nations, full stop. The fact is that nations evolve, as do cultures, when they encounter other nations and cultures. The fact that Colonial powers would like to say that indigenous nations and societies cannot do so is absolutely an attempt to prevent the growth and continuation of indigenous nations as identifiable entities capable of recognition as signatories to the Treaties in order to have free and clear access to ALL indigenous territories and resources.
@jonnyneace8928 you and I see things differently. 🤷♀️ As I already stated, in some nations, cultural teachings are passed on by the mother. In a community wherein the mothers are indigenous, those cultural teachings would have been indigenous.
No, that particular community would not have included European ancestors prior to the arrival of Europeans, obviously. However, the suggestion that women in a community together are less capable of influencing the culture of their children is absurd.
As for any nation existing or not prior to the arrival of Europeans, new alliances are constantly made- the Iron Confederacy being one example.
It sounds to me as though you have an issue with the idea that women can pass on culture as easily, if not more easily than, men. Perhaps that's true of your nation.
I was taught that the mindset is what makes, or doesn't make, a person indigenous. And, frankly, I know some people who have far more colonized thinking (while being recognized by the Colonial governments as indigenous) than those who are called "Metis".
@jonnyneace8928 It sounds like your definition of indigeneity is dependant solely upon language with no regard to other teachings and values and is also dependent upon the "purity" of lineage- a very colonial concept.
My "speech", as you say, was an observation of the fact that, ironically, it seems you choose to ignore that indigenous nations aren't a monolith and seem to have little actual understanding of the nations from whom the "Metis" were taken. Seeing as you're Chickasaw, that makes sense as, to my knowledge, there are no "Metis" recognized in the United States much less of Chickasaw heritage.
@jonnyneace8928 prior to European arrival, the concept of a person not being fully human was non-existent and children were fully accepted. I doubt that our Ancestors would have had a different word for children of a Lakota-Chickasaw union, for example, regardless of cultural differences between the parents.
When our ancestors *chose* to welcome the newcomers to these lands, they identified them as human. The concept of a person being a "half-breed' or "Metis" (yes, I'm aware they're not necessarily the same thing but do have similarities in "blood quantum") is absolutely a European/Colonial construct and, unfortunately, is one which indigenous nations seem to have assimilated all too easily for all of the talk about not assimilating.
This is about real communities that have existed for many, many generations, going back to the middle 1700's. Métis people are recognized in the Canadian constitution as one of the three Indigenous peoples, along with the Inuit and First Nations. The issue the Chief is claiming to be an intractable problem does not exist. The Métis Nation of Ontario uses exactly the same criteria for determining who is a member of its nation as does the Manitoba Métis Federation, which, interestingly, is the institution that is trying the hardest to cast aspersions on the MNO, and for the same reason as the Chief and the Chiefs of Ontario, that being the issue of who gets federal money. They simply do not want to share it with the MNO, so they've started this propaganda war to try to make the MNO appear illegitimate to the Canadian public. And they conveniently avoid the issue of "blood quantum" among their own people by saying, "only we get to decide who is one of us" while demanding the MNO use even more rigourous criteria than it has been using, which, again, is the same as the MMF's. Go figure.
Lots of mixed nationalities...glad I'm fully Northern European just mutted out
Except we have communities, we have documented language dialects. The MNO is just the governing organization that distributes support to MÉTIS living in Ontario.
And really, he should look at his own house first. He has several female staff members who are white, who only have status because they married FN… who USE their cards for tax exemption.
Whose KIDS have status for the same reason and they’re also not First Nations.
Continuing to twist and manipulate the dialog isn’t okay. And I’m sooooo disappointed to see a company I’ve supported for years endorse this in this way 😢 definitely lost our business and support.
You have dialects of French yes, but nobody in Metis still speaks Indigenous languages from before colonialism.
Which is why you don't deserve it. These people WORKED HARD for generations to preserve their culture against all odds. Not everyone did.
The position taken by the Chiefs of Ontario, in allying themselves with the Manitoba Metis Federation (MMF), is less about principles and more about politics. They don’t seem to recognize or care that the MMF membership criteria is identical to that of the MNO. Someone in Manitoba likewise needs only to demonstrate that s/he descends from a Metis root ancestor, no matter how far back and regardless of the intervening circumstances. So why are they willing to give the MMF a pass, but not the MNO? The answer is nothing more than political expediency.
I am not sure if I understand thod properly. I am from Europa and from what I know many native people where killed by the settlers coming from Europe to live a better life in the states. Hence they are the ones that should keep quite and respect the native people with their old and powerful heritage.
But we have members of European communities with some Indigenous blood who are claiming that they deserve the same status as members of Indigenous communities.
Let me use Ireland as an example.
They speak Irish Gaelic as a native language.
Many people besides Irish Gaels contributed to the bloodline of modern Irish Gaels.
Because they married Irish Gaels, spoke Gaelic, adopted Gaelic customs and passed them on to their children.
Does that register as a concept to you ??
I dont have any problems with my cousins on the Reservations 😅😅 there's only a ontario eastern fetis and First Nation the peoples there supposed to be from say no that Means No!!! You use First Nation ansestry to claim Metis Nation ...yet we Metis Nation have layers of Metis Ansestors..
And what are you doing Chief McLeod
Chief McCloud is whiter than me and I'm 100% European
Scott is full of shit I went to school with him and he knows darned well there is Metis in Ontario..it political and racism at the very core
Yea right.
Yea right you went to school with him.😂" Steve the real Metis" 😂
You also intentionally misinterpreted what he said.
Couldn't have been a mistake.
Intent.
We Spaniards had the same problem. As I have already told you, in the Hispanic territories their inhabitants had:
-the same nationality, Spanish; whether they were Indians, Asians, peninsulars, mulattoes....
-the same religion; Catholic;
-the same general laws for everyone except what you say.
The Indian allies of Cortés who defeated the Mexicas traveled to Spain to be decorated by the Spanish kings and to negotiate their privileges to achieve victory.
One of the privileges they achieve is: the creation of the Indian Republics.
In them the laws that governed were their own as long as they did not go against the Catholic religion =
-no human sacrifices
-no cannibalism
-non-payment of debts with daughters
-do not murder innocents in funerals
-...etc.
They presided over the courts and were their judges accompanied by a Spanish authority, but they were the ones who imposed justice.
There was a whole system of Chieftains and Indian authorities that was in charge of all these issues.
Hispanic Catholicism is Aristotelian and Thomistic (from Saint Thomas Aquinas who says that if a town has an effective organization, if it does not go against Catholicism it is also valid)
And it is curious because many mixed marriages saw that they had many more benefits living according to Indian laws. Then the Spanish spouse became an Indian and lived like an Indian in the Indian Republics.
Another benefit was the COMMON LANDS of each Indian community.
Lands owned by each Indian community that could only be exploited by them.
Despite the inevitable miscegenation with the Spanish in both the Indian Republics and the Spanish Republics, efforts were made to ensure that the CACIQUES WERE PURE INDIANS and it was the Indians themselves who elected them.
I think the following could help you solve these problems:
- legislation created five centuries ago for the governance of the Indian Republics that must be in Mexico, and
-this crowning work of the History of Humanity that is the laws of the Indies.
I have NOT read this book but it seems that it explained how the same problems that you have now were solved
LAS LEYES DE INDIAS: ORDENAMIENTO DE PROTECCION DE LA MONARQUIA HISPANA A LOS PUEBLOS NATIVOS DE AMERICA
de JULIO JOSÉ HENCHE MORILLAS (Autor)
THE LAWS OF THE INDIES: ORDER OF PROTECTION OF THE HISPANIC MONARCHY TO THE NATIVE PEOPLE OF AMERICA
by JULIO JOSE HENCHE MORILLAS (Author)
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Because the Indigenous who married out into the Spanish communities adopted Spanish culture. The Nahuatl speakers didn't for example.
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TRUE, THEY WERE STILL SPEAKING NAHUATL. THAT'S WHY THE COURTS HAD TRANSLATORS FROM NAHUATL AND OTHER LANGUAGES. SPANISH WAS A LANGUAGE FRANCA, SPAIN NEVER IMPOSED IT. IT'S MORE, THE SPANISH =
1-WE MADE THE GRAMMARS OF THE INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES
2-IT WAS TAUGHT IN INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES THAT RELIGIOUS PEOPLE AND GOVERNORS HAD TO LEARN
3-IN THE UNIVERSITIES THEY WERE TEACHED IN 3 LANGUAGES = NATIVE, SPANISH AND LATIN
EVEN INCA GARCILASO LEARNED ITALIAN AND TRANSLATED THE DIVINE COMEDY
BUT WHEN THE ENGLISH HELP THE FREEMASONS OF THE LIBERATORS TO SEPARATE FROM SPAIN THEY ABOVE THE INDIAN LAWS THAT GAVE ALL THESE RIGHTS TO THE INDIGENOUS POPULATIONS AND IN CONTRAVENATION OF THESE LAWS THEY IMPOSE ON SPANISH SOMETHING THAT THE MONARCHY NEVER DID
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It is difficult to understand, that process had occurred before in Europe and was called ROMANIZATION.
Rome, which was a generating empire, treated all its subjects equally and even non-Romans became emperors.
Because the advantages, starting with the ethical, moral, and conceptual ones, were superior to the others and offered you the possibility of moving up in their structure. THE WHOLE MEDITERRANEAN IS FULL OF CITIES ALL WITH THE SAME ELEMENTS THEATERS, FORUMS, COURTS, SCHOOLS, TEMPLES... and SPAIN does the same but in a less violent and MAXIMUM RESPECTFUL way with the INDIGENOUS CULTURES called LOS NATURALES
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Yes but I'm saying there's a difference between a Nahuatl speaker with some aspect of Spanish blood and a Spanish speaker of some aspect of Indian blood? Right? Culture is the difference.
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I don't understand, are you saying that having more or less Spanish or Indian blood makes a cultural difference?
In the Hispanic world this is understood as RACISM.
I think it is not true, there are many documented mestizos who were children of Hispanic nobles and Indian nobles who were educated in one culture or another, depending on whether the father or mother was noble and the difference was marked by EDUCATION, EDUCATION MAKES CULTURE AND CULTURE HISPANIC IS LIKE ROME, IT ASSIMILATES AND MIXES THE CULTURE OF ALL PARTS OF ITS EMPIRE
For example, in dancing, in all our countries when dancing we tap our feet.
I would have sworn that it was a European medieval custom, but you have it in front of you and you don't see it.
In POW WOW, when you dance, you set the rhythm with your feet, and if you put shoes with heels on those feet, you have the clicking of heels. It is in all Hispanic countries but in Spain only in Flamenco whose greatest influence is Hispanic American music.
It is an Indian custom of the Caribbean "areitos" or the Mexica dances, Tlaxcaltecas...etc. that were mixed with European choreographies...ALL OUR CULTURE IS THAT= MESTIZATION AND IT WAS A SUCCESS, WE WERE THE 1 POWER, UNTIL THE ENGLISH AND FRENCH DIVIDED US
didnt they come from asia?
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“Our conversation with the Federal Gov. to Free Native American Political Prisoner Leonard Peltier who’s been falsely imprisoned going on half a century and to honor the Indian Treaties (pre-constitutional law) forming the basis of our great nation was almost entirely redacted on national TV shortly before the insurrection because it demanded that the then President also relinquish the nuclear codes which has never been done.
Oct. 2020 I spoke with at least around a dozen federal agents including the FBI and even the US Navy. Trump says before being elected, “We have nuclear weapons so why can’t we use them?” Nancy Pelosi confirmed to our international audience on national TV that indeed they where removing the nuclear codes with the help of the CIA and if anyone has any questions they could just call up and ask. What followed only confirms nuclear tensions where about to explode. The redaction is worth at the minimum trillion$ more than all moneys because with nuclear war lights out! Nothing! This simultaneously addressed the other largest nuclear power and all the rest without having to address any of them directly except our own.”
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This guy forgets a whole lot of shit my ancestors came from. Catholic churches abused the nation out of us and alot of stuff was burned to the ground. So just cause what he isn't aware of the torture that destroyed our freedom to practise our beliefs and ceremonies.
As i cannot relate i find this talk a bit bizarre. What are 1 nations losing by goverment accept 0,5 nations as sovereign nations?
I know the answer but feel like asking anyway.
Why did you ask then?
You just wanna hear me repeat it.
Because it's diluting native sovereignty.
Everyone's not Indigenous.
Much respect 🙏
#firstnations #pretendians #identityfraud #metis #fyp #friday
Thanks for your comment! 🧡
Like to see his ancestry dna what’s he 2% Native American
Well as someone who is indigenous first nations, you either are native or you’re not us indigenous people have always said it’s a way of life so if you aren’t connected to your native people, and you’re not living that way, then you’re simply not native because it’s a way of life so if these people had mixed ancestry, but we’re actually living the traditional native way and part of the native culture. Then they would be viewed as native but for whatever reason they aren’t and they want to be their own special group that doesn’t make them native but I can see where native people could be kind of rubbed the wrong way by these people trying to pose as another native substitute groupand they’re just not
Exactly.
If the Metis were native, they wouldn't exist.
The expectation of matriarchal native cultures would be that the male from outside of the culture marrying a woman from the culture would be adopted into her culture. Not the reverse.
There are indigenous Nations with tribal members of mixed ancestry.
Look at the guy talking in the video.
So if the Metis were really Indigenous people, their European ancestry would have joined an indigenous culture, not made another separate one.
Much like how the Irish Gaels will say if you married in and spoke the language and stood up for Ireland then you and your descendants are as Irish Gaelic as the others. The medieval era Anglo Normans and the industrial era diasporic Irlandiani represent examples of this.
The Choctaw would consider matrilineal heritage for the ethnicity of a person. So if a Black man and a Choctaw woman had children they'd be considered full blood. Ethnicity is inherited from the mother.
Same concept, there are European descendants in Indigenous Nations who have been conformed to Indigenous culture.
Meanwhile, there are European cultures with assimilated Indigenous ancestry, like the French Canadians who call themselves Metis.
Interestingly, historically, the communities which now identify as "Métis" were considered to be indigenous by indigenous nations. Then Colonial powers decided that they would treat these communities as non-indigenous due to the inclusion of non-indigenous peoples and began imposing "blood quantum" rules with regards to things such as Treaties.
It's an incredibly complex topic and history, requiring the ability to suspend what one "thinks" they know and place themselves into the situation as it would have been at that time then move forward through the entire process to understand where we got to now from where it started. Not everyone has the time, willingness or ability to do so.
when the early settlers came from Europe, was there metis on turtle Island before all the imagrints. There were true native 100 % before metis existed. Were metis here before the original turtle ppl. Thats the point just tell truth metis are from Europe just addmit it lol
"Metis people" have ancestral roots on turtle Island and Europa..is there a problem with that? Maybe you just know absolutly nothing about irish or French or Scottish being indigenous to europe .they're natives on the earth too as are our turtle ancestors...metis pride you'll just have to accept we are still here and that some have double the indigenous pride in our families..
As far as claiming to be metis if blood quantity is less than 1/4 then one is considered a descendant of the indigenous tribe not an enrolled member, thus you do not get benefits that i know of. Maybe if a close relative that is enrolled passes and the descendant is the only survivor its possible to claim a credit. In United states, anyway.
Trying to compare "Status" in Canada and the US is comparing apples and oranges.
@ShyRogato just contributing to the topic that Mallory was bringing forth. That's why I clarified what goes on in the USA. Not trying to compare. Do you know how it works in Canada? Educate me.
There's also the perspective from some of us who consider ourselves to be non-status rather than Metis that there's a push from the colonial government to try to get as many non-status "enrolled" as "Metis" in order to cover up the mess they made of our communities and some people's connection to community with disenfranchisement policies in the Indian Act.
When you "should" have status through the new "reinstatements" and your family's "historic" (read: mother's) band chose to instate rules of "membership" based on colonial ideas of indigeneity (ie "blood quantum") when Lovelace passed in the 80s, yet you were raised with cultural knowledge (women carry and teach the culture to the next generations) there's a huge problem.
"Canada" created huge problems that they are only magnifying with the push to enroll non-status people as "Metis".
I personally see this push as a furthering of the genocidal agenda of the colonial state. After generations of removing women (among other groups- including those who enrolled in the military and anyone who might have achieved a university education) from indigenous nations while indoctrinating the children remaining within those nations into a colonial mindset/understanding of what it means to be indigenous (by literally removing them to residential schools), asking those same nations to make "rules for membership" without the input of those who had been "reinstated to address the problems the Indian Act made" is beyond disingenuous.
@@deboraheischen5783In Canada, we are addressing issues created by the colonial government forcibly removing "status" from certain groups within indigenous nations through a legislative policy called "the Indian Act".
The rules for removal of status have changed many times in the 150 years the policy has been in place but, at various times, has included policies which removed "status", examples of which are:
An indigenous person got a university education
An indigenous person enrolled in the military
An indigenous woman married a non-status man
And
"Selling" of status through the scrip system (which often happened when Canada was withholding agreed upon rations while simultaneously preventing people from hunting/trapping/fishing in their traditional territories and not providing agreed upon "farming implements"- "two oxen and a plough for every family").
In addition, Canada implemented policies which "gave" status to a non-status woman if she married a man with recognized status and full status to their children. After a while, they implemented a policy which said that the mother couldn't be non-status in two successive generations (the so called double mother rule) while ignoring any status which had previously been "granted" or removed.
There's more. A lot more.
Our treaties have no end date.
Once a person claims Métis status, there is no road back to enrollment as a "status" "Indian" (as we are called under the Act).
Métis people have no treaties.
Pushing non-status people to enroll as Métis (by providing carrots such as funding) is an attempted rush towards their (Canada's) end game of the end of recognition of indigenous people- and the Treaties, by extension.
The average Mexican is more indigenous American than this “Chief” lol
This “chief” contradicts himself in every few statements.
Your proud Metis have abandoned their status to pursue Treaty Indian money through land n specific claims like Cows n Plows. It's all about money and the bs they bring to our reserves.
Wth are you even talking about? And everything Canada is about is for the land! Métis lost their land just the same, none of you can show a genealogy proving your genealogy has not been “mixed” so stfu.
too much misinformation to even dissect here, sadly. Just more sowing of conflict and confusion.
You are wrong
My last Native and Irish ancestors left those cultures between 1870-1940. I am not them, I'm just American, Metis are just white Canadian with bits of native heritage. Period..
The ones who went to residential school I think would disagree with you on this.. 9% of residential school victims were Metis.
I guess this guy needs a primer on who is indigenous. He says (a new historic community) just popped up. Completely wrong.! Crown land is everyone’s land.. we can harvest when we want. I think he should do some homework on what the criteria is to get a citizenship card.. we also have to go back to the fur trade, and go back to a metis ancestor, but we have several First Nation people that we come from- sounds like this fella is worried that a little slice of the pie is going to the government approved metis people. Let’s get our head out of our amass, and maybe he should get a d.n.a test to prove he is a fullblood chief and First Nation person. Lots of white in this fellla as well. Speaking lies…