Hot take: dark pulse s3t is good and imo better than dark void set. It's a little confusing at first, but the combo is quite simple: shadow claw and immediately dark pulse. The first attack from dark pulse is very quick, and then you wait to see what your opponent does and jump to them. This should proc the sleep mark from shadow claws first hit, amd once you pop out use your boosted and shadow claw again. This combo is very effective, trust me. The reason spragels amd other TH-camrs struggle is because they play on switch, while I'm on phone. Phone is kinda just better especially for technical pokemon like darkrai. Sorry for typing so much, if you read this far have a great day!
I was thinking about that this morning! I went into practice tool and was like what if I pressed the two together.. and lo and behold things feel so much better.
The problem is that combo doesn't deal enough damage, the other moveset deals almost and even more damage and has lower cooldown, longer range and you can actually keep chaining the combo, which means it's more consistent. Dark Pulse Shadow Claw is better only when you use Unite.
The things your teammate did in this game (Dodrio breaking goals stupidly instead of partially scoring, then his late Unite before Ray), and that scoring just before final stretch... Makes me wanna throw my phone to the wall
@@syazwans.7082 ohh this is that match? Yeah I remember that dodrio was lowest rated in their team and chose a speedster(dodrio ofc) even tho number 1 (spragels) already picked a speedster 😭 crustle also backcapped in this match no? Its pretty funny they were in the chat too and said sorry to spragels for backcapping
people like him are the reason i stopped playing the game. like there's no way you lack THAT much game sense or even common sense. like why are you scoring 10 points when i'm already halfway through with my 40 points?
Shadow claw dark pulse feels like it would make more sense if you could mark opponents with shadow claw while in dark pulse. Honestly, it might be a bug. It feels like dark pulse could be a little shorter too, you can dodge so much with it.
@@BENHUR. It's fine. You can't make it do a lot of damage cause it's uninteractive. It's one of those flawed designs, it's either annoying or broken, so keep it just annoying. Maybe just make it a little less clunky but not too smooth. The problem is that it's a combo attack that he enemies can't interact with, so if you make it smooth there's just no counterplay to it. The fact that it's kinda slow and you have to be predictive about it is what balances it. Now shadow claw, that one is trash and they definitely need to do something about it.
I actually think Dark Pulse Shadow Claw is better than people think it is. It's more of a laner than a jungler, and it lanes very well with Sing Wigglytuff or Yawn Snorlax and can deal more damage than you'd expect. Plus the invulnerability can be quite good, especially in large teamfights. I agree that it's not as good as it could be, however it's better than people think.
People complaining about mimikyu going invincible for 1 second, then darkrai gets a move that makes it invincible for 8 seconds and every goes "meh". If you think dark pulse is bad you have zero game sense. Of course it doesn't oneshot and it's hard to time right. It needs to be. You can't make it easy because it's uninteractive. It's a combo attack that opponents cannot stop in any way, so the difficulty needs to be on using the move itself. Also a note about the unite move. Rather than using it to one shot an attacker, I've had a lot more success using to isolate a support or defender during a teamfight. Even if you can't always kill them, you are removing them from the fight for 8 seconds, making it a 4v4 where the opponents are missing either their defender or support, and we all know how those fights go.
Mimikyu's is bad because it lets you do 1/4 to 1/2 of someone's HP off of a teleport that can be off screen OR assassinate while invincible and run further than any Pokemon can dash with a little map awareness. Ceruledge, our other invincible ghost type, gets to pop in and out of the ground, apply a 60% slow, lower its cooldown, and heal with bitter blade. This is on top of the fact that they are both All-Rounders with more base HP to work with. Darkrai's is clunky and leaves him with no way of escaping once the invincibility wears off with the set that does any damage. Unlike Mimikyu and Ceruledge it has no real bonuses to speak of. It's a big move with plenty of uses, but your claim that there's no way to stop the combo is just false. Plenty of Pokemon can just dash out if they're in one of the edge circles. Mons with resettable or stacked dashes can dash out from the center. Mons that can gain shields while becoming unstoppable/hinderance resistant will ignore it. You can hit them once, maybe, but then what? Once you drop your invincibility Darkrai is a sitting duck until it resets. Not to mention that, even if you dodge a big attack with your invincibility, their cooldown will likely be up by the time you get out. Mimikyu and Ceruledge don't worry about that *because* their moves only last a second. It's a quick dodge, attack, and counter with bonus status effects while they opponent can't do anything. Darkrai's takes too long to do this, has no bonuses, and does too little damage unless you're hitting the best case scenario every time you use it.
Hoopa unite-ing in Darkrai’s nightmare to bring its allies in would thematically be possible as Hoopa’s rings are capable of hopping through dimensions. Would be hilarious, too. Possible in unite? I doubt the devs went that far so no.
As a Darkrai grinder, the more you play it the better it gets and the more combos that you find out with insane damage output. Edit : and Yes it also melts Defenders and Supports, especially with Unite Move
This moveset is really intressting as Dark Void enables this ranged playstyle that cycles around sleep constantly. Shadow Claw + Nasty Plot also seems pretty strong if you stack SpAtt Specs due to scaling, This moveset is more melee focused but has tons of burst. Dark Pulse feels too slow right now, Enemies have a lot of time to escape while Darkrai isn't able to follow up but maybe there's something I'm missing.
Yes cris and spragels tried it hella on stream and its 1st move is too weird to hit and inconsistent.. ESPECIALLY when trying to hit multiple enemies. Meanwhile dark void instantly hits every enemy in the moves range thingy. Haven't even seen the video but I have seen hella of their streams these past 2 days and I know for sure spragels finna say dark void/ nasty plot 😂 the 3x boosted on every enemy is just too strong
@@Belesprit656 I mean nah its possible for sure it has the same effect and even more damage but shadow claw is just incapable of hitting its enemies for some reason. Same reason dark pulse is ass cause you gotta do shadow claw ~> into dark pulse and hit once ~> exit dark pulse otherwise the enemy won't sleep.. idk spragels can explain this way better than me 😭
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Why when sometimes I unite with darkrai, I can’t move? Just had a match, united, couldn’t move, come out of unite and my opponent died. I don’t know how.
Shadow claw and nasty plot just got me 25 kills with 138k damage on an ultra 4 ranked game. Leftovers was coming in clutch to get you back into the fight after an attack
The weirdest thing about this release is that ‘dark pulse’ clearly should have been called Dark Void. The mainline games have a void open up that puts enemies to sleep. I’m not seeing anything particularly ‘voidy’ about this move in Unite. With a slight animation tweak it could easily be made to appear more ‘pulsey’ and oh hey look we’ve just solved the problem! Now to make the other move set actually function, because damn it has so much fun potential…
Hot take: dark pulse s3t is good and imo better than dark void set. It's a little confusing at first, but the combo is quite simple: shadow claw and immediately dark pulse. The first attack from dark pulse is very quick, and then you wait to see what your opponent does and jump to them. This should proc the sleep mark from shadow claws first hit, amd once you pop out use your boosted and shadow claw again. This combo is very effective, trust me. The reason spragels amd other TH-camrs struggle is because they play on switch, while I'm on phone. Phone is kinda just better especially for technical pokemon like darkrai. Sorry for typing so much, if you read this far have a great day!
I was thinking about that this morning! I went into practice tool and was like what if I pressed the two together.. and lo and behold things feel so much better.
The problem is that combo doesn't deal enough damage, the other moveset deals almost and even more damage and has lower cooldown, longer range and you can actually keep chaining the combo, which means it's more consistent. Dark Pulse Shadow Claw is better only when you use Unite.
@BENHUR. Agreed. Although I love him he is not bursty like other speedsters he needs to be much more burst damagy
There are 2 combos witj it if im seeing right
First shadow claw dark pulse to sleep
Second just dsrk pulse and double tap shadow claw
The things your teammate did in this game (Dodrio breaking goals stupidly instead of partially scoring, then his late Unite before Ray), and that scoring just before final stretch... Makes me wanna throw my phone to the wall
@@syazwans.7082 ohh this is that match? Yeah I remember that dodrio was lowest rated in their team and chose a speedster(dodrio ofc) even tho number 1 (spragels) already picked a speedster 😭 crustle also backcapped in this match no? Its pretty funny they were in the chat too and said sorry to spragels for backcapping
You clearly need therapy then 🤷🏻
This list could definitely be longer
people like him are the reason i stopped playing the game. like there's no way you lack THAT much game sense or even common sense. like why are you scoring 10 points when i'm already halfway through with my 40 points?
The only nasty plot I care about is the fact cram gets nerfed every patch
Cram is a balancing nightmare if you ask me, its either too strong or too weak. no inbetween.
Shadow claw dark pulse feels like it would make more sense if you could mark opponents with shadow claw while in dark pulse. Honestly, it might be a bug. It feels like dark pulse could be a little shorter too, you can dodge so much with it.
@@Belesprit656 dark pulse is just ass rn
You have a combo that sleeps opponents and gives you up to 8 seconds of invincibility. Get gud.
@@nicolomanfrini8671 8 seconds that don't matter at all because when it ends you're just dead, not even pointing out its low damage.
@@BENHUR. It's fine. You can't make it do a lot of damage cause it's uninteractive. It's one of those flawed designs, it's either annoying or broken, so keep it just annoying. Maybe just make it a little less clunky but not too smooth. The problem is that it's a combo attack that he enemies can't interact with, so if you make it smooth there's just no counterplay to it. The fact that it's kinda slow and you have to be predictive about it is what balances it. Now shadow claw, that one is trash and they definitely need to do something about it.
I actually think Dark Pulse Shadow Claw is better than people think it is. It's more of a laner than a jungler, and it lanes very well with Sing Wigglytuff or Yawn Snorlax and can deal more damage than you'd expect. Plus the invulnerability can be quite good, especially in large teamfights. I agree that it's not as good as it could be, however it's better than people think.
People complaining about mimikyu going invincible for 1 second, then darkrai gets a move that makes it invincible for 8 seconds and every goes "meh". If you think dark pulse is bad you have zero game sense. Of course it doesn't oneshot and it's hard to time right. It needs to be. You can't make it easy because it's uninteractive. It's a combo attack that opponents cannot stop in any way, so the difficulty needs to be on using the move itself. Also a note about the unite move. Rather than using it to one shot an attacker, I've had a lot more success using to isolate a support or defender during a teamfight. Even if you can't always kill them, you are removing them from the fight for 8 seconds, making it a 4v4 where the opponents are missing either their defender or support, and we all know how those fights go.
Mimikyu's is bad because it lets you do 1/4 to 1/2 of someone's HP off of a teleport that can be off screen OR assassinate while invincible and run further than any Pokemon can dash with a little map awareness. Ceruledge, our other invincible ghost type, gets to pop in and out of the ground, apply a 60% slow, lower its cooldown, and heal with bitter blade. This is on top of the fact that they are both All-Rounders with more base HP to work with.
Darkrai's is clunky and leaves him with no way of escaping once the invincibility wears off with the set that does any damage. Unlike Mimikyu and Ceruledge it has no real bonuses to speak of. It's a big move with plenty of uses, but your claim that there's no way to stop the combo is just false. Plenty of Pokemon can just dash out if they're in one of the edge circles. Mons with resettable or stacked dashes can dash out from the center. Mons that can gain shields while becoming unstoppable/hinderance resistant will ignore it. You can hit them once, maybe, but then what? Once you drop your invincibility Darkrai is a sitting duck until it resets.
Not to mention that, even if you dodge a big attack with your invincibility, their cooldown will likely be up by the time you get out. Mimikyu and Ceruledge don't worry about that *because* their moves only last a second. It's a quick dodge, attack, and counter with bonus status effects while they opponent can't do anything. Darkrai's takes too long to do this, has no bonuses, and does too little damage unless you're hitting the best case scenario every time you use it.
@@freetheost correct, and do we want darkrai to that too? No thank you
Hoopa unite-ing in Darkrai’s nightmare to bring its allies in would thematically be possible as Hoopa’s rings are capable of hopping through dimensions. Would be hilarious, too. Possible in unite? I doubt the devs went that far so no.
This is not possible but Idk about sableye
Not sure if dreams/nightmares count as dimensions
@@jibbily27 pikaszu proofed that hoopas unite don't work in Darkrais unite
@@UL-Vegito ik, I was just talking lore-wise or however you want to put it as the original commenter said
The only nasty plot in unite is when they plotted the lucky ice pops
17:38 that dodrio was not it
As a Darkrai grinder, the more you play it the better it gets and the more combos that you find out with insane damage output.
Edit : and Yes it also melts Defenders and Supports, especially with Unite Move
Spragles, that Dodrio is proof that you need to make a tutorial video, please😢 Also when playing on a phone, how do you turn off auto locking?
Is it just me or is natsy plot and shadowclaw also a surprisingly fun build?
This moveset is really intressting as Dark Void enables this ranged playstyle that cycles around sleep constantly.
Shadow Claw + Nasty Plot also seems pretty strong if you stack SpAtt Specs due to scaling, This moveset is more melee focused but has tons of burst.
Dark Pulse feels too slow right now, Enemies have a lot of time to escape while Darkrai isn't able to follow up but maybe there's something I'm missing.
12:49 that would kinda go against darkrai's move itself, it's not a real space, it's a nightmare on the affected Pokémon :)
Am i the only one who thinks darkrai is kinda mid?
No
No but that's not a bad thing. Not everything has to be broken at release
@@balmacoonprem5039 true I just think it feels very weird (gameplay)
mid isn't really a bad thing, but definitely a very lacking playstyle for sure
and i'm used to using almost all the speedsters
Yeah its a jungler /j
Sorry this isn't Pokémon related, but I just rewatched the first Austin Powers and Jake did a great job as the blackjack dealer
Dark void is just so good AND its good for farming
Do movement speed emblems actually make a difference?
I honestly think Darkrai feels best in a side lane. He’s like an offensive support. Similar to Pyke in League but w/ Morde ult.
I'm excited to try him in ranked
Anyone tried Shadow Claw Nasty Plot?
Yes cris and spragels tried it hella on stream and its 1st move is too weird to hit and inconsistent.. ESPECIALLY when trying to hit multiple enemies. Meanwhile dark void instantly hits every enemy in the moves range thingy. Haven't even seen the video but I have seen hella of their streams these past 2 days and I know for sure spragels finna say dark void/ nasty plot 😂 the 3x boosted on every enemy is just too strong
Yeah, it's not the play. Dark void is just better than shadow claw and shadow claw is clearly meant to be used with Dark pulse.
@@Belesprit656 I mean nah its possible for sure it has the same effect and even more damage but shadow claw is just incapable of hitting its enemies for some reason. Same reason dark pulse is ass cause you gotta do shadow claw ~> into dark pulse and hit once ~> exit dark pulse otherwise the enemy won't sleep.. idk spragels can explain this way better than me 😭
Hunter Speaking: The only nasty plot I care about is, Ho-ohs unite move broke in a match and wouldn't let me revive my team the whole match! 😭👍💜🧡
Man, your team just did NOT want you to score.
Spragels bro. such great content. learnt so much from ur videos. thank you so much for ur generosity of knowledge and great presentation as always! big love from the land down under. me and my wife watch your videos everynight and enjoy all your content thoroughly!! much love n respect
It's mid has medciore burst, it's ult is clunky. Dark pulse is just to ambitious for this game.
Dark void/nasty plot looks suuuuuper fun and skill expressive
You should make a video on nasty plot shadow claw and one on dark pulse dark void! 🤠
Darkrai unite move = Tsukuyomi . If you get caught, ur dead💀
Shadow claw and nasty plot is a pretty decent combo
Yeehaw! Indeed! 🔥
Dark Void Nasty Plot is so strong but it looks like no one tried to perma chain the combo.
Lot of ppl probably just don't know. You're one of the few I've seen to even mention it
Darkrai isn’t worthy to be called a speedster. The main point of having a speedster is that you want to kill your opponents fast as possible.
Why when sometimes I unite with darkrai, I can’t move? Just had a match, united, couldn’t move, come out of unite and my opponent died. I don’t know how.
Does muscle band help with his boosted autos?
GYMRATZ!!! I freaking know that player. I’ve played a few games with that clown and he’s bad EVERYWHERE 😭😭 I cri
I use the full heal for the Unite Move
You not finishing the sentence is a nasty plot 😂
I can't wait to play in ranked 💀🔥
ダークライは期待外れか、かなり良いかのどちらかだ。中間はない
I love Darkrai despite them being B tier
Shadow claw and nasty plot just got me 25 kills with 138k damage on an ultra 4 ranked game. Leftovers was coming in clutch to get you back into the fight after an attack
dark rai
The weirdest thing about this release is that ‘dark pulse’ clearly should have been called Dark Void. The mainline games have a void open up that puts enemies to sleep.
I’m not seeing anything particularly ‘voidy’ about this move in Unite. With a slight animation tweak it could easily be made to appear more ‘pulsey’ and oh hey look we’ve just solved the problem!
Now to make the other move set actually function, because damn it has so much fun potential…
Was so hyped for darkrai to just be dissapointed by it being just awful, guess its just a matter of time to get some buffs
lez go hawyee
First
Another underwhelming move set for what should be an amazing Pokémon , at least we get psyduck soon :/