Medieval Knight's Lance: How do you hit hard with a medieval lance?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2019
- Talos and Jason test out a medieval lance rest and try to uncover the forgotten medieval lance techniques of the past.
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Talos
Direction, Camera, Sound, Editing Kasumi
Presenter Jason Kingsley OBE
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Imagine: you're a French soldier, approaching your centuries-old enemies.
The fields are quiet today, the ground slightly muddy, a slight breeze stirs the fresh morning air.
Suddenly, from the distance, you hear their fearsome war chant:
"Good boooooy!"
"they may take our lives, but they will never take our good boy!!"
Lol!
Emanuele Rusconi
The French cry is “Bon cheval!” or possibly “Bon garçon!”
😂
And a bit from the east, you hear the dreaded warcry "Let me show it's features!"
Jason: talks
Talos: LOOK AT THIS NEAT TRICK
Look what I can do!
One "good booooy" and a pat. And Talos does it again and again.
Talos is HUGE. Talk about a fitting name.
Also, Balls of Steel Statement of the Day from Jason: "I volunteered to be hit in the head with a solid lance."
Jason: "Yes Talos, this is a lance"
Talos: _NOM NOM NOM_
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL LANCE
*CHEW*
Talos eats lances for breakfast 💪🏾😎
One time we were, with University, at Crimea, on geological practise, and at one point we were in the valley near Mangup... There is a field there, where you can put your tent, and there were people with bunch of horses. I got up to piss one day, went into the bushes... Something suddenly pushed me- it was young colt, who wanted to play. I started to pet him, and suddenly his mom was there too. Let me tell you, you have no idea how big horse is, until it stands next to you. So i`m thinking "i`m dead. She is angry..." nope. She wanted to be petted too. So now there are two horses, i have to pet and talk to... Now something starts breathing on my neck. Daddy shows up- even bigger, than previous two- mountain with teeth- started to nibble on my collar. So i had to pet him as well. Now all horses are coming toward me, suddenly interested... I came out covered in spit, like i was just attacked by bunch of big, happy dogs. I just prayed, as i was walking out of there, that one of them suddenly wouldn`t decide to kick. Got to my tent, took out my bag of sugar lumps...
Went back to the field, with small hope, i maybe will befriend this little colt, or maybe some other horse- i thought, they wouldn`t react or even care for some stranger... Yeah, right... As soon as this sound of something shaking in the paper box was heard, i suddenly had a lot of new friends
You have not lived, until big stalion is "hugging" you, by pressing you to his chest with his head- he is so happy, that someone is talking and playing with him, and giving him treats. And you have not lived, until a horse is nibbling on your ears, to show you affection...
He is such a funny and cute horse. It seems he likes to sample anything he can reach.
This is a man who gets excited over the fact that he got hit in the head. With a medieval weapon. On purpose. Dude is an absolute legend!
Everybody else: here for the armor, lances, history, etc
Me: PRETTY HORSEY yes that IS a good boy
Talos: LOOK AT MY SPANISH STEP I WALK SO PRETTY LOOK
Hahaha!! ☺️ He's so proud of his pretty Spanish walking! He's such a good, handsome boy : )
My boy followed along using a broom handle as a lance. I just have to stop him running at his brother. Very engaging videos, thanks for taking the time to do them.
Ha ha, tell him to be careful!
You might need to set up a safer target for him to practice with.
My boys always chased each other with knives and BB guns. Very large, very sharp knives. Neighbors got used to me yelling at my boys to stop shooting each other and stabbing was not allowed, either. They also got used to me threatening to take those weapons and use them!
@@ragnkja 0
Talos really is a beautiful horse, I can imagine you're very proud of him.
I am, and I’m the only person who has ever ridden him, as I raised him from a foal.
Wow, I know he is super special to you. Havevuvever heard of a TV show filmed for the history Channel re jousting. Filmed in Mississippi as a fact! Used to love that show!! So proud of our state being part of studying history!! Love from Madison, MS, USA
Have u ever
The guys in this show used half- draft horses and thicker lances
Is Talos about 18 hands? He's a big man! Love his Spanish walk! Lovely relationship you have with him!
Seeing this makes me realize that a mounted knight with his lance is quite a complex 'system'.
I am trying to imagine now a full troop of mounted warriors, each with a different level of training and skills.
Not easy to get a competent army of knights... It takes a lot of time and work to raise one. Which is pretty expensive.
It was medieval equivalent of fighter plane. Cost of a one armor then was equivalent of million dollars today.
@@luserluser2164 Based on manuscripts and adjusting for inflation it's roughly about the same price as a car 30K-40K
Most people back then did not make the equivalent of a middle class person today. So while 40k is within reach to many today, it was very out of reach to most back then. Might as well have been a million dollars!
luser luser here is an excellent blog post on the subject referencing scholarly research of historical sources - m.armstreet.com/news/the-cost-of-plate-armor-in-modern-money Basic set of armour for low end man-at-arms equivalent to a years wages. Better stuff for Knights and Nobles up into the $100K range. Don’t forget well trained high quality war horses cost more to obtain and even more to keep than armour !
@@Sirconnor9292 "the same price as a car"
Everybody can have a car today. Almost nobody was rich enough to have a fully trained warhorse. It was closer to a private airplane than a car.
Just for comparison, since I happen to know it. A full kit of Winged Hussar armor and weapons *right now* costs as much as a new car. It starts from cheap car and there is no end to it. That's *not* including a horse, which is the most expensive piece of kit.
I watch him 50% to see him test out cool medieval stuff and 50% to watch him work with these goofy horses lol they are so damn cute!
Jason: Talos, this a lance.
Talos: Can I eat it?
Why goofy😂
Goofy? Bruh that horse is an absolute unit.
Talos: "Yeah I know you all are actually here to watch me be a fancy handsome good boy. Look, dad, I'm famous on the internet!"
Talos has an awesome personality. Love the fact he's dead keen to get going and seemed to be getting quite impatient with all the stopping and talking to the camera.
love when Talos showing his fancy Spanish walk
each time when Talos stop be like
i show you, i show you my move...
😁
I know I'm late to this video here but just wanted to say thank you so much for this content. I have 2 young boys who love watching the knight and his horses in the morning while I make breakfast. Its a true blessing to have videos they can watch that are educational and enjoyable and nerdy:)
never too late, and thanks for commenting, and tell your boys that the knight says hello and hopes they are behaving themselves as befits young gentlemen!
@@ModernKnight Will do they will be ecstatic!
This video is a low-key dig at all those fantasy games with spikes all over their armor ;)
Nerobyrne oblivion?
@@kh91132 there are a lot of them, but yeah that one is pretty famous for it.
Also, Skyrim.
Every historical armour channel will give you that vibe. Historically accurate armor was used for a reason, and the expresssion of this fact will always come at the expense of fantasy designs.
@@CrazyRandomLord I usually prefer the simpler, more practical designs usually.
I really love armor that looks like armor actually looked, but has fancy designs inlaid/worked in so that it's still perfectly functional but looks intricate.
There are some exceptions though, like in Warhammer for instance the entire setting, from lore to unit design is supposed to be over-the-top and needlessly grandiose, so that's cool again because it's its own aesthetic.
@@Nerobyrne That's actually completely historically accurate. Despite modern perceptions of "knights in shining armour" medieval people seemed to have preferred decorated and brightly coloured armour so there are many historical instances of painted plate, brigandines with brocades or elaborate, decorative studs made from rivets etc., helmets with elaborate crests, and (obviously) well decorated surcoats. Medieval people generally liked their armour to be decorative and medieval tastes ran to brighter colours then ours do today so fancy and elaborate armour is completely accurate to history.
Talos is magnificent!
Seriously, Jason.
You must take such good care of your horses.
The way they behave, they really love you.
Any idea the breed of Talos?? The hooves/ankles are impressive...Clydesdale type ??
I was wandering that too his breed Talos
I’m not a horse expert at all but I wonder if he is part Friesian. Not full / pure though as the white foot would be inconsistent
I was wondering that, too. Giant hooves. So well muscled. Obviously huge. He walks so pretty with his knees high. I'm no horse expert. But I was guessing some amount of Friesian for the gate and the playful personality. And maybe a little bit of larger draft horse of some kind for bigger size. But all sweetheart.
This is fun. Lol. Anyone else want to join in guessing?
@@virglibrsaglove, Talos is a Shire/Andalusian cross. It was mentioned in a previous video.
This channel is the best experience of mine in social media, unbelievable
Talos knows he has an audience! He wants to show his party trick to the world!
02:48 ....fucking badass.
Sounds like the calmest, nicest history teacher, yet is the first person in several hundred years to get jousted into the head.
Cause he chose to.
So glad to see more content from all of you and your hoofed friends, Jason! Hope your day job lightens up a little so we can see more of your content! Keep it up!
I'm so busy at work that I have to find time during the weekend to make these, and the dull rainy weather makes it harder.
@@ModernKnight British weather, am I right?
Yes, it’s been raining regularly, which is good for the land, but makes anything at speed dangerous.
@@ModernKnight We've already had snow in Ohio, USA. We have more coming. I hate winter.
- But Sir, where is your lance?
- I swear to god I had it. My horse ate it.
Love the way Talos paws the ground before charging...he really looks a warhorse!
Apparently some horses loved the charging into battle. They were eager to do it, like our sports team members.
This was fascinating and I so appreciate that the misses were not edited out. Can you imagine the sound of an approaching army of armored knights on horseback?
New video from my favourite channel! What a wonderful way to start the day. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these videos.
What a wonderful way to end the day for me :D
Talos is so huge!!
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Yea, anyone know how tall?
Last time I measured him he was 17.2 hh, but that was a year ago.
@@ModernKnight hence the taller mounting block. But he's looking lovely. So glossy and toned. That's a happy horse.
@Modern History TV They weren't that big back then, right?
@@rishi7629 Ya, they were
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I like the new intro. Your lance videos are particularly interesting to me because I don’t see many other videos of men on horseback using lances historically. Keep up the good work and Talos too!
I came here today to listen to you tell your story and watch your beautiful horse. I'm not disappointed. 👍
My goodness look at the size of the neck on Talos! What a stunning horse!!
Isn't it so great that there is always something new to learn in the art of combat? Never a dull day and you do such a wonderful job at continuous learning. It's always a great pleasure to watch your videos and learn more.
Thank you for your time, Kasumi's time, your hooved friend's time and your wonderfully well put together educating videos.
Is there anything we can do as viewers to help support your team besides liking, subscribing, sharing and continuing to tune in?
I'm toying with Patreon, but really all I need are good wishes, constructive comments and people telling their friends and colleagues about the channel.
@@ModernKnight Absolutely understand that. Well I'm not able to practice a lot of the mounted combat stuff so I can't give a ton of feedback on that, but I am an avid HEMA practitioner as well as gearing up to fight in harness on foot. Any questions or different views I have in those areas, I'll definitely throw your way.
Your videos have actually helped a lot in lighting a more valid interest to fighting in harness and getting a bit more into reenactment. I appreciate your down-to-earth method of actually doing small experiments yourself to see the outcome. That's what this art is all about. Interpreting the sources, asking questions and trying techniques out on our own. If they aren't working, we are most likely doing something wrong because people lived and trained that way every day.
Thanks again for all your hard work. It's always a joy to see your content. Keep us updated on how we can support you!
Garrett Baker
When it comes to combat, anything that doesn’t work won’t get used for very long.
@@ragnkja that's the absolute truth
@@ModernKnight I would support you on Patreon. Couldn't do a large amount, but....
Also, maybe at least sell mugs, tshirts, etc. I would love a set of mugs with a photo of each of your horses on it ! :) Perhaps blank greeting cards would sell ?!
Are you on Facebiok or Instagram ? Easier to share your videos from those platforms !
Would love to see video of that joust, if there IS video ?!
Also, was very interesting to 'hear' the sound of the armor on your microphone! That is something I hadn't thought of.
Talos is one handsome horse.
Khaixzer
All of his horses are gorgeous; he’s obviously taking good care of them.
Okay, so we need someone to be hit in the face with a lance from a horseback and they can potentially die.
Sir Jason: Hold my bridle!
I wonder if they would normally have had a longer run-up to the target and so more time to get the lance on the rest, stable and aimed? It's amazing how much information was taken for granted that is now so hard to figure out.
Love that horse. Talos is eager to go at it. "C'mon boss, let's hit more stuff!!"
Found you about two weeks ago and LOVE the channel, the way you provide the information with explanations and demonstrations, and especially your relationship with Talos. Thank you so much. I’m going back to watch all the previous videos. What a joy!
thanks for watching.
@@ModernKnight i had in Different Armour see a Strange Lance With Side Spikes maybe you had a Opinion About
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The video that trapped me was the one about peasant food where they made a potage. Tried it myself and it was lovely :-)
Every time Talos faces the camera he goes "look at my trick!".
This channel is occam's razor to perfection. Just doing it is beneficial in learning than just simply reading and innately assuming. I love that observation about the furthered difficulty of preparing a mount whilst wearing plate armor with lance-rest.
Thanks, it's fun to try things out too.
I love your videos! So informative and well done. Its awesome that you practice in it to so you are giving a living testimony to the info and not just a scholarly perspective. Thank you for your time and efforts!
One thing that comes across is the noise from just the amount of armour he’s wearing. Imagine several knights in full armour riding into battle.
Great video of a piece of the armour that most people wouldn’t even notice.
There would be far louder noises on a battlefield.
@@pitmezzari2873 Like the sound of hooves pounding the Earth
Reminds me so much of the practice scenes in A Knight's Tale. Loved that movie, and i love your channel!
"I haven't ridden with a lance arrest in a long, long time."
--and I'm not the least bit surprised he's done that before.
Talos the mighty! Talos the unerring! Talos the unassailable! To you we give praise!
its so sweet how you talk to your horse. greetings from germany
So I'm writing a medieval fantasy story. This channel is a major source of inspiration. Now I just need to actually sit down and write Haha
I dont know if you take requests, but can you please do a video on medieval travel? I'm really curios as to how medieval couriers or merchants travelled from city to city, what were the dangers of the road and how did they survive it? Did they hunt for their food? Where did they sleep? Your videos are really amazing at humanizing the past
I have just discovered you and absolutely fallen in love with your channel and horse and it is so nice to see the "mishaps" (the missing of the target) and not only the spectacular good things i really like that and it is encouraging as wel keep it up👍
thanks for your support. I think it's good to keep in times when it doesn't go according to plan. It's all about learning and sharing, and not everybody is lucky enough to have their own horse.
Talos really LOVES his work!
Another fantastic job Kasumi, Jason and Talos! Very well done.
Something tells me that Talos wants to canter it’s like he’s saying come on I don’t want to stand here. I love his “parlor tricks”, he’s such an expressive and handsome boy.
So glad I came across this channel. You learn a few things, and it’s really wholesome. Love it.
Thank you for another great video. Always looking forward to them. Talos is a magnificent horse.
You Sir Kingsley and Kasumi and Talos are really incredible, love every bits of it.
Keep the good work!
I just love watching your videos, they are so interesting. And it's great seeing all the hard work you put into becoming a great medieval knight
ehehehehe.....he got a new arming jacket. I remember making fun of the old one. Good move friend.
Thanks for sharing your experience sir
I feel oddly honored bearing the name of the lance
Great seeing another one of your videos. Wanted to let you know some of us in America are only just now receiving feeds from your videos date stamped August thru October!!
Absolute unit.
Another entertaining, great, informative video Jason, you dont disappoint
Talos is a magnificient beast! I am happy for you!
yet another amazing video, keep up this amazing work
Talking about your old jousting days,
Great to see a new video thank you.
Greetings from Holland.
Regarding the use of the aret/rest in period, some arets had a saw tooth like serrations on the front edge of the rest which were intended to dig into and more effectively “grip” a leather or lead encased iron ring placed on the tapering butt end of a jousting lance , behind the lance’s handle, so it would come up hard against the rest and not be forced backwards when the lance’s tip struck the opponent. This prevented the force of impact from needing to be resisted solely by the grip of the lance wielders hand, thus reducing the likelihood of thumb or other hand injury. When I tilted with my heavy oak wood war lance, I always wore a heavy leather glove that I would wet the palm of in order to increase the friction of my grip on the leather bound handle area of my lance shaft, which has no taper behind the handle for a ring to wedge against. Hard hits would still cause my lance to slide backwards several inches in my hand anyway, in spite of the extra friction!
George Cameron Stone’s “A Glossary of the Decoration of Arms and Armor “ pictures numerous historical lances (unfortunately not to scale) for use on horseback , some have tapered ends that increase in diameter from the butt up to the handle only , to accommodate such grapper rings . Some then only decrease in diameter along the rest of their length , tapering from the handle diameter on down to the tip size, while others increase in diameter ( to either a swelling to grip behind or to support a vamplate - a metal cone that shields the hand holding the lance from being hit by the opponent’s lance tip during a joust). At the Armeria Real in Madrid, Spain, there were ancient lances displays with shafts that were hollow and 3 to 5 inches in diameter. I saw similar examples of huge lances at the Royal Armoury at Leeds in England . Doubtless this sort of oversized lances were not for battle, but gentler jousts of pagentry.
Another interesting video. :) I hadn't realised how much the lance rest changes the way you use your lance.
And that's a neat new doublet. I notice it doesn't have arming points. Will you point your armour to your mail? If so I'd like to see that in a video if you don't mind.
I’ll see arming points on it soon.
Talos is a really beautiful horse
Fascinating video, great work!
I love your channel! Thank you so much, as it really helps in these times.
Happy to help!
I finally discover why they were so many bowmen in the english invasion forces in 15th century...
Their horses eat their lance!!
Greetings from France😏
good one, yes French Knights were certainly very feared on the battlefield.
Amazing content. Thank you for this!
The horse looks majestic. Thank you for another history lesson! Love it.
thanks for watching.
Seems like that could cause some damage to your arm in a spill.
Absolutely the Best Horse video of the month!
Could you do a video on how they did care horses back then ?
Such a great channel
That is one gorgeous horse!
Talos is a lovely horse
Jason, has the life you want. You didn’t know you wanted it, until NOW…. But, you do.☝️💎🌎
A new video! Fantastic
Talos is a handsome horse. He was really enjoying himself there! Haha!
Thank you Jason.
Very cool. Enjoying your videos! Thanks
Thanks for watching.
I love this fella!
Totally cool. More please.
Talos is so funny! Love you as always!
That is magnificent horse. Just majestic.
Thanks for another great video!
our pleasure
I have been binge watching these videos and might have a bit of a crush on Jason! :)
Don’t we all though
How cool! Christmas is coming and I can my Modern History TV Merch! Thanks!
A good start but a long ways to go to be a Vaquero ! 😊
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Everyone else is commenting on the lance or horse, I'm more impressed with that indoor arena. I've been at American or Canadian Rodeos in smaller rooms lol.
Super interesting video!
Such great videos
What Happens to your arm if you hit a solid or heavy target? Does the lance rest break off? Or will it hurt your arm?
Thank you for your videos. This is TH-cam’s chocolate side 😁👍
even if the lance isn't designed to break (the goal when jousting), it has great chances to break when the 2 opponents will collide : the rest is designed to transfer the shock to the armor (then to the whole upper body) and to protect the wrist and the arm from from the shock
Great video.
7:16 "Lance arrest" was what I was taught, same as an arrester hook on a carrier born aircraft. Which would go to explain why there's clearly a translation mistake somewhere xD
Kicking back with a nice glass of red watching a very knowledgeable gentleman discussing all things medieval.
Life is good.
Talos is a playful boy isn't he.
I always like seeing the personality in your horses. 😂
Enjoyed your video and gave it a Thumbs Up
Thanks