There is a rule about limit of the low friction regarding long pimples and anti rubber. But nothing about the friction upper limit. So which one is close to table tennis roots? Or it is not important? So, the evolution is only to the high friction direction? Tacky or/and tension is the only way? Unfortunately is very rare today competitive defenders and blockers. And it was very interesting see defenders x attacker x blockers diversity competing together.
The style of Batra is extremely difficult, Retrieving all the shots, adding Anti spins in those balls. I hope she defeats all Top 10 and show her haters that Long Pips is worthy to play with
Anyone who is afraid to play against long pips needs to learn to play against them. In my youth I was introduced to inverted in the late 60’s. I was 10 then. I stopped playing in my twenties. I picked the h game back up eight or nine years ago realizing I wasn’t as fast and the game had advanced by changing the ball and the inverted rubber. If that isn’t confusing nothing is. I recently a year and a half ago started playing with long pips on my backhand. I can tell you it is a long curve to learn-how to play with long pips. I agree with another player who said that it’s okay to continue to develop inverted rubbers that are tackier and spinner yet frictionless pips are illegal seems one sided. I used to not like playing against long pips. I forced my self to learn to play against them by playing people who used pips. With instruction I quickly got the idea of how to play against them. But learning to use them is harder than learning to play with inverted rubber. Those who say differently never learned to play with long pips.
I aggree to the comments about the awkward pimples. But Hina Hayatas smirks after some won points are also upsetting. Mima Ito does it too. Very unlikeable.
also, all this negative comments about Batra playstyle are ridiculous... one of the reason why is tt an interesting sport to play and watch is all its different styles that you have to master playing against and use your brain a bit...
@@zbazz8 Ofcourse becoz u know u cannot win against Long Pips lol Loosers. Do u even know how much difficult it is to play with Longpips??There are so many disadvantages with Long Pips
Manika Batra has a very boring and defensive style of play, where she makes it very difficult for her opponent by returning the ball "too heavy" and without rotation, which causes her opponent to make mistakes by throwing the ball into the net or off the table. She sometimes insists on receiving the service to her right by making a backhand drive and ends up making a mistake throwing the ball into the net, Indian stubbornness! Attack more and train service reception, which is horrible!
Boring is an interesting way to describe an off meta strategy that's different from what any of the top players are doing. Having a defensive playstyle against the top players in the world is most definitely not taking the easy route. Anyone at this level has 1000s of hours of practice against long pips, she's not winning points for free because of her rubber by any stretch.
In my table tennis group, I just refuse to play games with pimples. I simply tell him, if you want to win, go play someone else. If you want to play games with me, I just let you win 0:11, go on with your lame life.
@@cheetahcub252 There is less skill required in using pips. All you need is 2 strokes. For inverted rubber players, you need to learn at least 20 strokes. Tennis and badminton, which are popular sports with million of followers around the world, do not have such a type of racket that INVERTS the spin of the ball. Also, long pips player rely on the CONTRAST between their inverted forehand rubber and long pips backhand to win points easily by getting the opponent to make easy mistakes. In tennis and badminton, there is no difference between their forehand and backhand strokes.
@@cheetahcub252 No. All you need for long pips is a chop and a hit. You can't serve without sidespin without pips. Inverted players have to learn pendulum sidetopspin, pendulum sidebackspin, reverse pendulum sidetopspin, reverse pendulum sidebackspin or the shovel/hook serve and backhand serve. Plus, all pips players do is USE the spin of the inverted player. They chop inverted player's topspin which becomes backspin and then hit the backspin which becomes topspin or float.
@@cheetahcub252 No. Some pimples players use long pimples on both sides or long pimples on one side and short pimples on the other. A lot of beginner players who cannot handle the pace of the game using inverted rubbers actually change to long pips and they end up winning a lot more points and matches. This shows that long pips are the easy way out. In addition, a lot of beginner players who have trouble hitting with their backhand end up changing to long pips to compensate for this. Therefore, it shows that inverted rubber takes more skill to use.
@@cheetahcub252 A long pimples player at my local club who started off with inverted rubbers even ADMITTED that the reason he wins a lot is because beginner and intermediate players make a lot of easy mistakes dealing with the “weird” and “floaty” long pimples balls. He also admitted to putting his long pimples in the sun and in the microwave to make his balls even more WEIRDER which makes beginner and intermediate opponents more susceptible to easy mistakes.
Excellent match and great to see such contrasting styles and strategy.
12:30 amazing racket twiddling technique by Bhatra. Predicting the racket phase for power (black side) : 🔥
3 succesful twiddles in a row! Impressive
What a difficult play style of Batra.
There is a rule about limit of the low friction regarding long pimples and anti rubber. But nothing about the friction upper limit. So which one is close to table tennis roots? Or it is not important? So, the evolution is only to the high friction direction? Tacky or/and tension is the only way? Unfortunately is very rare today competitive defenders and blockers. And it was very interesting see defenders x attacker x blockers diversity competing together.
Маника Батра ,конечно принцесса!!! И понимает ,что таким стилем Хайату не обыграть...!!! Удачи!!!
good game.
They are one of the most beautiful womens in table tennis deffinitely !
The style of Batra is extremely difficult, Retrieving all the shots, adding Anti spins in those balls. I hope she defeats all Top 10 and show her haters that Long Pips is worthy to play with
Anyone who is afraid to play against long pips needs to learn to play against them. In my youth I was introduced to inverted in the late 60’s. I was 10 then. I stopped playing in my twenties. I picked the h game back up eight or nine years ago realizing I wasn’t as fast and the game had advanced by changing the ball and the inverted rubber. If that isn’t confusing nothing is. I recently a year and a half ago started playing with long pips on my backhand. I can tell you it is a long curve to learn-how to play with long pips. I agree with another player who said that it’s okay to continue to develop inverted rubbers that are tackier and spinner yet frictionless pips are illegal seems one sided. I used to not like playing against long pips. I forced my self to learn to play against them by playing people who used pips. With instruction I quickly got the idea of how to play against them. But learning to use them is harder than learning to play with inverted rubber. Those who say differently never learned to play with long pips.
Good match,,, Hayata the better player,, tho Batra is no walk over,,,
Manika😍
Barra dificult forehand or more trainning
I aggree to the comments about the awkward pimples. But Hina Hayatas smirks after some won points are also upsetting. Mima Ito does it too. Very unlikeable.
What word is she screaming.....?
extra rotation to a good location to a woman of an indian nation ahaha, what is this commentator:P
also, all this negative comments about Batra playstyle are ridiculous... one of the reason why is tt an interesting sport to play and watch is all its different styles that you have to master playing against and use your brain a bit...
Batra is being passed around by the top 10 Asians like a hot potato. They always win, but nobody wants to play her.
Большая белочка играет ,"вискарией".
傍門左道，只能靠別人一時不適應膠皮，不是長久之計。
没错，我直接拒绝跟颗粒拍子的人打球；我跟他说：你想赢就去赢其他人，你要跟我打，我就直接认输让你赢我11比0算了，游戏结束
@@zbazz8 Ofcourse becoz u know u cannot win against Long Pips lol Loosers. Do u even know how much difficult it is to play with Longpips??There are so many disadvantages with Long Pips
웃는게 좀 이상한것 같아요
Manika Batra has a very boring and defensive style of play, where she makes it very difficult for her opponent by returning the ball "too heavy" and without rotation, which causes her opponent to make mistakes by throwing the ball into the net or off the table. She sometimes insists on receiving the service to her right by making a backhand drive and ends up making a mistake throwing the ball into the net, Indian stubbornness! Attack more and train service reception, which is horrible!
Boring is an interesting way to describe an off meta strategy that's different from what any of the top players are doing. Having a defensive playstyle against the top players in the world is most definitely not taking the easy route. Anyone at this level has 1000s of hours of practice against long pips, she's not winning points for free because of her rubber by any stretch.
Too much knowledge is harmful for your health.
I think is time to banned all pimples no skill just to confuse others terrible thing to deal with pimples
In my table tennis group, I just refuse to play games with pimples. I simply tell him, if you want to win, go play someone else. If you want to play games with me, I just let you win 0:11, go on with your lame life.
@@zbazz8 this is perfect way to refuse pimples I wish we could all say that 👏👏👏
We should also ban pen holders and all left handed players as well 😂😂😂
@@pahum67 Pimples are spoiling the aesthetics of the game left handed players and pen holders are Welcome 😁🤣😂🤣😂
@@cheetahcub252 I don't care if they ban or not, I just don't play against pips. They, also may choose to not play against me, LOL.
Long pimples and anti spin are cheap and should be banned.
@@cheetahcub252 There is less skill required in using pips. All you need is 2 strokes. For inverted rubber players, you need to learn at least 20 strokes.
Tennis and badminton, which are popular sports with million of followers around the world, do not have such a type of racket that INVERTS the spin of the ball.
Also, long pips player rely on the CONTRAST between their inverted forehand rubber and long pips backhand to win points easily by getting the opponent to make easy mistakes. In tennis and badminton, there is no difference between their forehand and backhand strokes.
@@cheetahcub252 No. All you need for long pips is a chop and a hit. You can't serve without sidespin without pips. Inverted players have to learn pendulum sidetopspin, pendulum sidebackspin, reverse pendulum sidetopspin, reverse pendulum sidebackspin or the shovel/hook serve and backhand serve.
Plus, all pips players do is USE the spin of the inverted player. They chop inverted player's topspin which becomes backspin and then hit the backspin which becomes topspin or float.
@@cheetahcub252 No. Some pimples players use long pimples on both sides or long pimples on one side and short pimples on the other.
A lot of beginner players who cannot handle the pace of the game using inverted rubbers actually change to long pips and they end up winning a lot more points and matches. This shows that long pips are the easy way out. In addition, a lot of beginner players who have trouble hitting with their backhand end up changing to long pips to compensate for this. Therefore, it shows that inverted rubber takes more skill to use.
@@cheetahcub252 A long pimples player at my local club who started off with inverted rubbers even ADMITTED that the reason he wins a lot is because beginner and intermediate players make a lot of easy mistakes dealing with the “weird” and “floaty” long pimples balls. He also admitted to putting his long pimples in the sun and in the microwave to make his balls even more WEIRDER which makes beginner and intermediate opponents more susceptible to easy mistakes.
12:30 amazing racket twiddling technique by Bhatra. Predicting the racket phase for power (black side)