Railcards Explained

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  • To get the cheapest fares on Britains railways you'll want to use a Railcard if you can ... which typically give you 1/3 off of the off-peak fare. But there are multiple railcards which all work slightly differently, so we thought we'd try and explain what they are.
    DOWNLOAD the PDF which is the complete guide here: geofftech.co.uk...
    (We'll update this over time as and when things change)
    The official RDG websites for the Railcards are:
    16-25: www.16-25railc...
    26-30: www.26-30railc...
    Disabled: www.disabledpe...
    Senior: www.senior-rai...
    Two Together: www.twotogethe...
    Family & Friends: www.familyandf...
    Network: www.network-ra...
    Gold Card: www.nationalrai...
    Many thanks to Mike Whittaker from Oyster Rail for his assitance - www.oyster-rai...

ความคิดเห็น • 313

  • @michaellongstaff3588
    @michaellongstaff3588 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Just want to say that the 16-25 railcard does have a restriction in the form of a minimum fare before 10am on weekdays. This can be annoying for shorter journeys with fares under the £12.

    • @wintrwunderland
      @wintrwunderland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      However, this doesn't apply during the months of July or August.

  • @harrytodhunter5078
    @harrytodhunter5078 6 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Geoff looks different in this one

    • @vincentkohlumcfan22
      @vincentkohlumcfan22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Erm isn't she Vicki?

    • @harrytodhunter5078
      @harrytodhunter5078 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its a joke i stole thst i say all the time because ive been hearted twice for it.

    • @jamesdavison1786
      @jamesdavison1786 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      VincentKoh LUMCFan r/woooosh

  • @whywhy6055
    @whywhy6055 6 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    If only there was a 16-70 railcard

    • @aw7544
      @aw7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      0 - 120 would be better

    • @mccobsta
      @mccobsta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@aw7544 screw it just heavily subsidise it and make it affordable

    • @dranshul9276
      @dranshul9276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it applicable only for tfl system or London tube as well ?

    • @skyblazeeterno
      @skyblazeeterno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aw7544 Its a mess tbh. I used to live in Switzerland years ago and they had a railcard available to residents only that cost IIRC 120 swiss francs this entitled the holder to HALF price travel for a year on virtually all the rail network in the country with no time of travel or minimum fare restrictions. I think it also allowed travel on some trams, buses and boats and maybe its metro at Lausanne. Very simple

    • @Danny-Do-It
      @Danny-Do-It 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is a 31 - 60+

  • @a5209283
    @a5209283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I wish there were a rail card for people like me that have no disabillity, are over 30 and under 60, travels by themselves and lives in the North east of England.

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, it doesn't seem very fair that if you live in the network Railcard area you get a 16 to infinity Railcard and can bring friends along and no one else gets that luxury

  • @Kelly_C
    @Kelly_C 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i never realized how much i like trains

    • @CodeRT777E-TRAINPAL
      @CodeRT777E-TRAINPAL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love traveling in Europe, especially when I can save on train travel.BTW we can get a 5%off on train tickets now!

  • @moritzl7065
    @moritzl7065 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The 16-25 Railcard also offers a 34% discount on TfL caps, both peak and off-peak, e.g. the Zone 1-2 cap with railcard is just 4.50. Also, while for rail tickets there is a discount during peak there is NO discount for an oyster peak fare...
    They really need to simplify the system

    • @nikitakathuria6550
      @nikitakathuria6550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      can you use a railcard on the tube? and can u get a regular oyester card if you don't live in London?

    • @CodeRT777E-TRAINPAL
      @CodeRT777E-TRAINPAL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Saving a bit on travel is always good! I found a discount on train tickets justnow!

  • @OltonHall
    @OltonHall 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect timing. A friend will be traveling around England and Scotland this summer and hasn't been completely confused what is what with the various cards. Thank you.

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Download the PDF and you can compare the differences! it IS confusing, which is why we've tried to un-confuse it a little ...

  • @johncrwarner
    @johncrwarner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for this advice and as my partner and I always travel in the UK together and so we got the Two Together Railcard and saved more than cost of the card on our first trip to the UK.
    Useful information.

    • @johncrwarner
      @johncrwarner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and we went for the mobile version so we got it instantly on our phones as we live in Germany.

    • @kellysmale1442
      @kellysmale1442 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@johncrwarner
      1:16 1:20

    • @CodeRT777E-TRAINPAL
      @CodeRT777E-TRAINPAL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If often taking the train, a railcard is indeed very useful.BTW we can get a discount on tickets now!

  • @francinevanzanten8368
    @francinevanzanten8368 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Could this be the start of a new series Vicki Explains instead of Vicki Explores....
    Would be nice to have a video about TfL pricing on the tube, busses and overground, including the new fares of Crossrail - Elizabeth line.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is about the network rail not TfL system

    • @donaloflynn
      @donaloflynn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PrograError What part of Francine's comment did you not understand? She didn't say this video had anything to do with TfL.

  • @bitesthedust
    @bitesthedust 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Ah, that old trick of renewing a 16-25 railcard before you turn 25...

    • @McGubbins42
      @McGubbins42 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, buy the card before your 25th birthday, not your 24th birthday as Vicky suggested.

    • @countertony
      @countertony 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      By means of doing a PhD, I was using a 16-25 Railcard (which I still think of as the "Young Person's Railcard") into my 30s.

  • @neilmarktaylor4386
    @neilmarktaylor4386 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is a job centre plus travel card which if you been unemployed for over 6 months and you are looking for work you can apply for this card

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love that one of the pair-type options listed for the Two Together card is "enemies". It's fun to picture scenarios in which that might actually happen. :)

    • @skyblazeeterno
      @skyblazeeterno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can imagine maybe a pair of workers that grudgingly share the same journey :)

  • @billyshearer117
    @billyshearer117 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Always check if Advance tickets are genuinely cheaper, often for a few pounds more you can get far more flexibility than the Advance fare.

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't get Advanced tickets because they are limited to just a single train... plus, from the stations I travel to, they're no cheaper than the standard anytime/off peak/super off peak returns! Hence I just buy my ticket on the day and use my 16-25 railcard (Pre-Covid, this was).

    • @Wanyeee
      @Wanyeee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see other posts have shared more cost-effective ways to buy!

  • @Kaylee-zx1nz
    @Kaylee-zx1nz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's great to hear! I even found some discount when buying the railcard. It’s always good to look out for deals that can make travel more affordable.

    • @islandhisea
      @islandhisea 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where can I get it? on trainpal?

  • @SimonS44
    @SimonS44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    British Railcards. Without wanting to show off, Germany has a much simpler system. DB (German railways) offers three cards, Bahncard 25 and 50, giving either 1/4, 1/2 or full reduction of standard Flexpreis and also always 1/4 on advance Sparpreis fares. A bit complexity comes from that some, but not all, regional transport authorities sometimes grant a bit of discount on bus and tram fares as well. There's also a Bahncard 100 (costing €4270 a year in second class) that gives unlimited travel on almost all of Germany's railways and also in many urban transport systems

  • @iamsquicky
    @iamsquicky 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One tip/trick with the friends and family railcard, is if you've got a child under 5 (ie doesn't need a ticket). You can quite often save money by actually buying them a ticket and using the friends and family card with them (assuming you don't have any >=5 year old children who are travelling anyway!)

  • @thomasmccourt215
    @thomasmccourt215 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Are they valid on The Isle of Wight? Then again I doubt if you would know that never having been there

  • @CaliforniaKarl2
    @CaliforniaKarl2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This may be out-of-date information, but I heard that if you're an Arsenal supporter, you have to buy your rail card from one of the Air Line stations, else you get fined £10.

  • @_andytang_
    @_andytang_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You get the TFL discount on the Disabled Railcard as well.

  • @trueriver1950
    @trueriver1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Gold card is available to anyone living anywhere in the country, and (correct me if I am wrong) the discounted fares apply anywhere in the UK
    The only geographical requirement is that the season ticket stations are both in the extended "South East" area. But you can buy that season ticket at any ticket office throughout the country.

  • @rumpus10
    @rumpus10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What lovely neat writing!

  • @parjacpar3077
    @parjacpar3077 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One travel card you did not mentioned which is not well known is the Jobcenterplus travel discount card which gives you half price travel on buses and trains.
    You have to be claiming Jobseekers allowance and its vailid for 4 months when it expires jobcenter will issue you with new one as long as your looking for work

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that's not an RDG issued Railcard, that's a London/TfL one only. But yes! This is great for jobseekers in the London area.

    • @parjacpar3077
      @parjacpar3077 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont forget the rest of the country and not "just" London

    • @SFSEfartman
      @SFSEfartman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing to mention is that most jobcentre do not offer this anymore. Apparently according to a ex-employee it was scrapped at certain jobcentres due to costs and abuse.
      Now JCP gives claimants 100% if the journey is 90 minutes from their home address. That is regardless if it is an interview or a job (though they only pay upto the first month of being paid).
      Which was useful when I had to attend an interview in York.

  • @NicoleLee14147
    @NicoleLee14147 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Choosing the appropriate ticketing app and finding the biggest possible discounts is a useful way to save money. For those living in or travelling around the UK and Europe, getting a railcard is a good option. If I remember correctly there is a software that is discounting all train tickets in the UK and Europe and can also be used in conjunction with the railcard discount. It's very economical and I've spent 35% less each time I've travelled!

    • @islandhisea
      @islandhisea 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The railcard only works in the UK right? It would be nice to have offers that are valid in other European countries. Is the 35% saving you mentioned ok?

  • @DitzyNizzy2009
    @DitzyNizzy2009 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another trick for cheap tickets is split ticketing: it can be cheaper to buy tickets from A to B with an intermediate stop than a direct ticket. It's legit as long as the train calls at the intermediate station. (I've saved quite a bit using that trick to visit my family in Manchester.)

  • @skyblazeeterno
    @skyblazeeterno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    writing in 2022 - maybe an update to this video would be nice as I suspect all major railcards have changed but still useful info nonetheless

  • @john_smith1471
    @john_smith1471 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting video, regard to the Network Card map seen @3:36, Ipswich is outside the Network coverage area, Manningtree is the last station within the boundary on that line.

  • @noahbowie5985
    @noahbowie5985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I completely agree with you on this. Although I have made the fatal (fatally expensive) mistake and booked at the station for a Manchester Piccadilly to London Euston in standard (forgot the Railcard as well🔫).
    That's £250 I'm not getting back.

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What a f-ing rip off. I would just not have gone and advanced booked for another time.

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could have purchased another Railcard on the spot and got £85 off. Also you are now allowed to forget your Railcard once a year and claim the difference back.

    • @noahbowie5985
      @noahbowie5985 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jasper when did this start?

    • @noahbowie5985
      @noahbowie5985 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simon Tay I had business in Manchester that day so the leg up was paid by my business. But when I got there I got a call from my wife saying that she had just gone into labour. So I was willing to pay it but on a normal I just wouldn't.

  • @robertofraser101
    @robertofraser101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful thank you just bought my senior railcard yesterday indeed many railcards there just subbed I live trains and older buses

  • @84derbycounty
    @84derbycounty 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You forgot to mention the 26-30 railcard

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mentioned in the PDF.

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why not just extend the 16-25 to 16-30. 26-30 is only 4 years.

    • @dominicfindlay
      @dominicfindlay 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simon Tay
      There's a slight difference
      In july and August the minimum fare still applies

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simontay4851
      Politics. The Govt wanted to be seen to be doing something new and shiny.

  • @CodeRT777E-TRAINPAL
    @CodeRT777E-TRAINPAL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's very helpful❤I found a discount on train tickets just now.

  • @AtlanteanAN69
    @AtlanteanAN69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never mentioned the fact that disabled railcard has a 3-year option at £54 compared to the £20 annual fee which still gives great vfm.

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's mentioned in the PDF which you're all encouraged to download.

  • @HenrysAdventures
    @HenrysAdventures 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish there was a Northern version of the Network Railcard!

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use the Gold card. Worth having if you spend around £500/year in railfares (including friends when travelling together).
      Note the stations you ask for in the season ticket have to be in the South East, but you never have to go there to enjoy discounts all over the UK

  • @Theduck19
    @Theduck19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got myself a Disabled Railcard it is great

  • @tncorgi92
    @tncorgi92 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed this even though I'm not in the UK.

  • @SFSEfartman
    @SFSEfartman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think one trick which combined with a railcard could save more money is ticket splitting.
    Example my station to where I work, a offpeak return is £46.70 (with railcard it is £30.85).
    If I split my journey, the split offpeak return would cost £30.30 (with railcard it is exactly £20.00)
    So if you look at both methods, with my railcard and ticket split, I have pretty much got 58% saving compared to a normal offpeak return.

    • @SFSEfartman
      @SFSEfartman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also to whose who don't qualify for a railcard, ticket splitting can give you similar savings depending on the stations you use.
      Same with those who use season tickets, having a split season tickets can give you some more savings.

  • @cardigan7726
    @cardigan7726 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vicki with a fringe 😍

  • @JBS319
    @JBS319 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meanwhile, travelers from abroad have a whole different set of railcards and passes. I have used the BritRail England pass which has unlimited unrestricted travel across England for a specified period of time. There are also passes for the entire National Rail network, one for Scotland only, one for the southwest and one for the London area. There might be some others as well.

    • @LeoGiusti
      @LeoGiusti 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be a great video as an Australian to watch.

  • @SpudderRail
    @SpudderRail 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 16-25 railcard can only be used after 10:30am on weekdays! it's only on weekends that it can be used at any time

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      incorrect, it can be used in the morning peak - but there IS a minimum fare, but *not* during July and August!

  • @Brrunoc1
    @Brrunoc1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When buying any off peak ticket, Check the Hertford Paradox: It is often cheaper to buy a ticket to Hertford than the station you are actually going to last year it was cheaper to travel super off peak day return from Brighton to Hertford than Brighton to London.

    • @Brrunoc1
      @Brrunoc1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just checked one example: Petersfield to Waterloo NW card off peak single £17.75, Petersfield to Hertford including underground : £16.70. It does not apply to every route, but worth considering.

  • @anomalousoddity
    @anomalousoddity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Geoff and Vicki! The pdf leads to a not found page - also, the disabled railcard can be bought with tesco points too at triple their value which is a massive saving, just letting ya know! Love the vid :)

  • @DavidShepheard
    @DavidShepheard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Music. Was this by the same person that did the All The Stations theme?

  • @TheSpotify95
    @TheSpotify95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's also now the 26-30 railcard, which I will be getting once my 16-25 railcard expires!

  • @justgixxer3974
    @justgixxer3974 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I'm guessing there will be a strange spike in the ticket sales numbers in next year's stats?

  • @TheNails3
    @TheNails3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunately your Network Rail area map at 3:35 is incorrect. Ipswich is actually just outside the Network Railcard area! The discount is only valid to Manningtree, when travelling from London on the main line. Whoever decides these things: please include Ipswich in the scheme!

  • @phlaneur2
    @phlaneur2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also get a Disabled Persons Railcard if you are D/deaf or hard-of-hearing. If you have a hearing aid, a copy of the front page of your NHS battery book or a copy of your dispensing prescription from a private supplier is all the evidence you need. Or get Social Services to stamp the downloadable form.

  • @pmb9172
    @pmb9172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can use Tesco card points to get a one year card with a discount and I think similar offers come up in promos , but none for three year cards.
    They will not work on Caledonian sleeper other than on the seated bookings , ie nothing off sleepers which their naughty website doesn't tell you when you do a search .

  • @chrisfan1677
    @chrisfan1677 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I booked in advance from Newcastle to Birmingham new st. from 12 weeks. It's only around £28 on the ticket machine, but on the APP it's about 44.

  • @SignalBox
    @SignalBox 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are a student it is worth looking out for railcars being included as a freebie. Santander did have a 4 year 16-25, not sure if they still do

  • @Westcountrynordic
    @Westcountrynordic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are on our 4th two together card just one long distance trip and we save what we paid for it so every local trip we do is even more saving.

  • @ThePilotboy16
    @ThePilotboy16 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dont see the 26-30 Railcard in the Video

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's in the PDF though. have a look there ...

  • @sugumarsivanpandi
    @sugumarsivanpandi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks 👍

  • @willmelbourne
    @willmelbourne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick note, some operators are now allowing you too book up to 6 months in advance.

  • @rocketrichardson7423
    @rocketrichardson7423 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @2.47 The Two Together Rail Card you state can be used by people not just couples, I am not sure that you notice this and the video dose not state this they both have to be named and you cannot use without the other person Eg your self and a friend who is not named on the card. That card would be amazing if that was possible.

  • @jackreddington6881
    @jackreddington6881 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay, I now know how to travel cheaply, Thanks!

  • @islandhisea
    @islandhisea 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    last time i traveled to UK and I got a railcard for train, and now my friend told me that there’s a 5 %off discount for train .What a pity that I didn’t get the discount

  • @michaelmacfarland7515
    @michaelmacfarland7515 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very helpful. Please do a video on Rangers and Rovers.

  • @maplady572
    @maplady572 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fab!! I wouldn't be without my (our) 2tog card! 👍 just wish it could be used to discount sleepers.

  • @juliestockmeyer5871
    @juliestockmeyer5871 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Vicki!!

  • @grumpygoomba9763
    @grumpygoomba9763 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You might want to update the PDF with the recently announced 16-17 railcard.

  • @arwelp
    @arwelp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best railcard is a staff or retired staff travelcard (at least for ex-BR staff) - 75% off and a free travel allowance.

  • @PinderProductions
    @PinderProductions 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    16 -25 also has an oyster discount, I was able to get it on mine to use at off peak times.

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, as per the PDF which we recommend in the video you download, as it contains ALL the information.

  • @themusicmoonkey
    @themusicmoonkey 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 16-25 and been told I cannot use it before 10am - which was great when getting the train from Leeds to Headingley at 10:01 and couldn’t use the ticket barriers until 10!

    • @maplady572
      @maplady572 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      themusicmoonkey ouch!!!! 😐

    • @DavidWood2
      @DavidWood2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      "A £12 minimum fare applies for journeys starting between 4.30am-10am Monday to Friday excluding Advance Fares. This minimum fare does not apply on Public Holidays or throughout July and August."
      (source: www.16-25railcard.co.uk/help/railcard-terms-conditions/ , point 7)
      I am a little surprised at being unable to use the ticket barriers before 1000 with your ticket - though it would not have been valid if you caught a train leaving before 1000.

    • @butteredtoast8292
      @butteredtoast8292 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      the fare from LDS to HDY is a standard £2.70, so under the minimum fare David so it may not let them get through with it before 10 unless its over minimum fare?

    • @DavidWood2
      @DavidWood2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't know the fare, but knowing the geography I was aware it was a rather short journey and knew there was no way the 16-25 discounted fare being £12 or over. I was just surprised at the barrier programming apparently prohibiting entry with a discounted ticket before the moment the ticket was valid for travel, especially when this may well have the effect of preventing a passenger from catching a train they have a valid ticket for.
      Ultimately the passenger has the responsibility to be able to produce a valid ticket or pass at any time during their journey, supported by a railcard. At the very least, it would seem appropriate to allow 16-25 discounted tickets below the £12 minimum fare to operate the ticket barriers from 0945 or perhaps 0950 in order to allow people to be in place to catch the first train after 1000. If the passenger uses this small latitude to catch a train their ticket is not valid for, they are liable for the consequences of travel without a valid ticket. The potential for abuse of this relatively small adjustment in barrier timing seems small, especially if local students are aware that manual checks are made on trains they cannot use their 16-25 Railcards to travel on.
      Automatic barriers cannot guarantee any passenger holds the correct ticket and, where relevant, Railcard for their entire journey. A passenger could go to a ticket machine and buy a child fare ticket (50% of adult fare, so cheaper than a 16-25 discounted ticket which is 66% of adult fare) or a ticket for another railcard type that they do not hold (Disabled Person's perhaps being the favourite, as it is valid all the time). The child fare ticket might be picked up at the gateline if there is an obvious indicator to staff that a child fare ticket has been used as I would expect, but a Disabled Person's Railcard ticket probably would not be picked up unless there was a supplementary manual revenue protection check including inspection of Railcards.
      Of course, you must have the correct railcard for the ticket you are using - you should not buy a Disabled Person's Railcard ticket if you have a 16-25 Railcard, even if the fare is the same and you would be entitled to use your 16-25 Railcard for discounted travel at the same fare on the train in question. In practice, staff might let it slide as a honest purchasing mistake if the ticket would have been valid for your journey but for the selection of the wrong Railcard type, though you cannot rely on this.
      Finally, for amusement, I note that there are some local rules that can lead to very strange ticket combinations. www.centralbedfordshire.gov.uk/transport/bus-pass/rail.aspx is one such exception - a local rail travel concession that allows a Central Bedfordshire concessionary travel pass holder to travel to London on Thameslink via a split ticket combination off peak - a child ticket supported by the concessionary travel pass to the last station where the train stops no further south than Elstree and Borehamwood (this may well be St Albans City if the passenger starts their journey from north of Luton unless they change trains), then onwards to London using an adult ticket, perhaps discounted by a Railcard.

  • @angelamcmahon
    @angelamcmahon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the URL for the Railcards.pdf needs to be updated to downloads (with s) and not just download.

  • @DavidShepheard
    @DavidShepheard 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please can we have Railcards Explained 2, with all the other regional railcards that you said you would not do.
    I live in the South East, so the Network Card is my local card, but I'd love to see how the areas of the country outside of the Great Zone Six Barrier compare.

  • @scullytawoody4852
    @scullytawoody4852 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vjd Vicky very helpful and a big thank you .

  • @gaganaman231
    @gaganaman231 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which railcard is for 31+ people for regular travelling in England ( not travelling with anyone)

  • @ThatDonChannel
    @ThatDonChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with advance booking is, you're committed to a specific time. Yes, that is the same "problem" that pretty much all air travel has, but at least with, say, a day return, your options are more flexible.
    Also, I discovered a problem when trying to use a network railcard on a ticket machine; even if you want to take a train that leaves during the valid period (e.g. after 10 AM), the machine won't let you - you have to get your ticket from an agent.

    • @skyblazeeterno
      @skyblazeeterno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      2022 - I looked at advanced booking online and came to the conclusion for me it wasnt worth it. Ok I would save a little bit of money BUT I would be restricted to travelling on a certain train at a certain time...no problem if there are not disruptions or anything but should something go wrong I think there is not even the chance of a refund though I maybe wrong on that last point. For me ultimately not worth saving 50p with the restrictions and potential for huge problems

  • @jonsmith8582
    @jonsmith8582 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So , as a 50 something able bodied lone traveller from Newcastle my choice of Railcards is zilch ?

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use the Gold card. Worth having if you spend around £500/year in railfares (including friends when travelling together).
      Note the stations you ask for in the season ticket have to be in the South East, but you never have to go there to enjoy discounts all over the UK

  • @KentRailPhotography
    @KentRailPhotography 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was this filmed on the railway near Herne Bay? Vicki? Just recognised it.

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that is INCREDIBLY eagle eyed of you, yes! yes it was! on the way down to Broadstairs ...

    • @KentRailPhotography
      @KentRailPhotography 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All The Stations Yeah. I just get the train back from Margate after school. So, I recognise the track and area.

    • @KentRailPhotography
      @KentRailPhotography 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      All The Stations 🚂

  • @DanLoudShirts
    @DanLoudShirts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It seems people are "kneejerk commenting" without a) reading the PDF and b) not checking their facts before they look like a twit then everyone lambastes them in the replies to the comment! Measure twice, cut once people. It makes you stop looking like a dunce.

  • @neilbain8736
    @neilbain8736 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lateral thinking; good dodge with the Gold Card.
    If there's something for The Highlands, you'd think there'd be something for Central Scotland. Everyone lives there from Perth to Ayr.

  • @deltic4343
    @deltic4343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the moment there is an added bonus with a Senior Railcard -
    GWR have an offer if you book before 17/04/18 and travel up until 23/05/18
    there is a 50% discount rather than the normal 33% discount -
    there's always a catch though it's only on certain time trains
    but if your not bothered what time you travel it's worth having

  • @andrewlong6438
    @andrewlong6438 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another possible way of saving money is by 'splitting' your ticket. You might want to do a video on that too!

  • @discogareth
    @discogareth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a single traveller, able bodied, 38 years old and travel multiple times a year between Birmingham and London. There's no rail card for me 😢😢

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Birmingham falls in the Gold Card area .... You could do the Hatton/Lapworth trick and get a discount, easy.

    • @discogareth
      @discogareth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All The Stations thanks for the advice, just looked! I think I'd be spending more than I'd save. I like using Chiltern, it's £5.50 advance single. I just wanted to be cheap and save a further 1/3 haha. Maybe I should explore more of the network by train! Now there's an idea!

    • @KFCJones
      @KFCJones 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you have a friend? Would you like to have one?

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Make "friends" with someone on the train who's doing the same route and use a 2 together card.

    • @radarskiy
      @radarskiy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Friends with (rail) benefits

  • @lukeb6341
    @lukeb6341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to use a railcard to be able to travel by train? Or can you just buy a ticket at the station

  • @robertmcphee4736
    @robertmcphee4736 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you know that some (all?) local authorities can provide you with a code that allows a £6 discount on a one year Senior railcard (£24 instead of £30)

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DID NOT KNOW THIS! Another great tip, thanks Robert.

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the code. I assume its the same code no matter what your name is or where you are.

    • @robertmcphee4736
      @robertmcphee4736 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      For our local authority you have to apply online, providing name and address on the form. A code is then returned later by email. The last code I had was different to the previous one.

  • @owendavis7601
    @owendavis7601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I am 64, my wife is 58. We will be travelling in UK during the next 12 months. Would you suggest we buy a friends and family, two together or what card? Seems to me all cards cost the same and offer same discount. We will be travelling, Gatwick to London, around London, London to Doncaster and back and trips to East Anglia. Seems we can buy on arrival at Gatwick station with proof of age and identity but no photo required for physical rail cards. Thanks in advance

  • @andrewlong6438
    @andrewlong6438 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just had an email asking me to renew my Network Railcard and was offered option of a digital version on my phone which I took upon. Unlike the Network Rail card, you have to provide a photo for the digital one.

    • @peterhatch206
      @peterhatch206 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the britrail pass Ist class good value

  • @DoubleDeckerAnton
    @DoubleDeckerAnton 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Vicky...!!! 💳😁📚👍

    • @Wanyeee
      @Wanyeee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard about a very good way to buy

  • @Sim0nTrains
    @Sim0nTrains 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will there be a video about the rovers and ranger tickets that you can get?

    • @tonyskinner1643
      @tonyskinner1643 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sim0nTrains I agree rovers and rangers themselves are worth explaining especially as most can be used by railcard users for standard discounts (but not all r/c)

  • @farahmetallo
    @farahmetallo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, I need to travel from Reading to London (and use the underground) for work. Which would be the cheapest way to do this? A gold card, or this other trick you are talking about? Thanks. Great vid!

  • @billedwards4342
    @billedwards4342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    got digital Senior Railcards for myself & wife on phone ,
    have now dropped off phone
    can I now have hard copies ?

  • @iyiolapeter6554
    @iyiolapeter6554 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is still very much confusing for me, how can I reduce the cost of train tickets considering I go to work in London just thrice a week. I need ideas

  • @Sir_Chuffy
    @Sir_Chuffy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Little known fact. If your child is 15 when you buy a Family & Friends railcard they can continue to have child tickets when travelling as part of the family with the railcard, even though they need adult tickets to travel on their own.

  • @KirbyONeilDJSpeed
    @KirbyONeilDJSpeed 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it true you can use your family rail card to pick up your child at a station, then travel back with your child on the return journey, if that's so what would stop you saying I have dropped off my child so am on my way back now, but you never had a child with you on any of the journeys , this could be on different times or days..?

  • @thuggie1
    @thuggie1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have been trying to sign the back of my disabled rail card for the past few hours and the ink not transferring onto the strip. what sort of pen do i need to use its either smudging or not leaving a mark and i need it for Wednesday.

  • @MagicaLucem
    @MagicaLucem 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realise this is a late posting.
    And with the kindest of best support to the most kind and sensible Viki .
    This isn't at all personal.
    This is a fabulous vlog and very very very valuable.....
    However, I too have a question that I too am asked frequently.
    Many other TH-cam pundits employ the phrase..."registered disabled"..as does Viki in this vlog.
    I ask...with whom is this "registration agency" that individuals should "register".??
    To question this more simply and using Viki's words directly. ..
    Viki says " If you are registered as disabled ..."
    So I ask her or any You Tuber. .."What on earth is a registered disabled person?"
    It seems to me a rather austere concept and rather odd...even demeaning.
    Who is it who registers blind people or deaf individuals or autistic adults ... is there some sort of test involved...is there a passport or ID card that these individuals "must" carry to be identified? Are there multiple agencies?
    Whilst, to obtain various support funds there are hoops to jump through to qualify for these monies...but that is a social security matter and one doesn't get a registration card or identity ...just some money.
    Consider Diabetics...Diabetes is a chronic life limiting condition.
    Being Diabetic is considered as a disabled conditions...by say, GP'S and local councils... and the mighty HMRC! and the NHS ..one is entitled to free medication and vat free shoes etc!
    Diabetics for example can also obtain nice blue badges for their cars...
    Is that a registration act?
    But that's about er. ..parking?!...
    Not about personal registration is it?
    I know of taxi drivers to get issued blue parking badges in case they happen to drive a diabetic passenger, say..
    Are these taxi drivers disabled?
    Let me repeat ...this is is a great vlog incidentally. Don't let my worries stop you doing these great vlogs
    I'm only slightly "triggered" as the modern idiom would express it, by this odd and to be honest rather humiliating phrase.
    (ie : Registered Disabled )
    It is a knee jerk phrase used by loads of folk...not just by our kind Viki.
    So
    Please...
    I hope people can stop using this peculiar expression of human segregation.
    In the UK, registration doesn't exist.
    Who would pay to set up these agencies and who would benefit?
    ( OK the bureaucrats working in them would get paid ...true)
    Re Disability.
    One doesn't have to register to be be born blind...or autistic...or even require someone else to validate your identity.... it just happens...and those affected know their condition ..
    So...Thanks..but please .
    No more registered disabled references...there aren't any such people nor any such registration agency..
    Just us ordinary folk living in a complex world....made easier by ... er umpteen rail card categories...lovely
    ...

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do the TFL discounts work now that it's all contactless/Oyster?

    • @dominicfindlay
      @dominicfindlay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got to add it to a oyster card

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Register your railcard with your Oyster card at any TfL station (ask which member of staff can do this).
      Then the Oyster system deducts the discount automatically from fares and caps, but now that the bus fares, and bus only caps, are still full price.
      Also note that there seems no way to get the disabled railcard discount for a companion

  • @shaydbennington1783
    @shaydbennington1783 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You may of said this in a video but what is your favourite station???

  • @cyrusadams3584
    @cyrusadams3584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait so if it was costing £10.30 how much will the discount be for the 16-25

  • @antonpixel
    @antonpixel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing that's always confused me is getting the fact that I have a paper gold card ticket 'known' to my oyster card to be able to apply the discount for trips outside the zone my gold card already covers. I have asked at a couple of TfL places (back when they had ticket offices) and they didn't know / understand by question.

  • @theofficialkc1483
    @theofficialkc1483 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the 16-25 railcard be coupled up with the 18+ London oyster? Can I couple them together ?

  • @Camberwell86
    @Camberwell86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ...and if you're 31 and single like me you just suck it up and pay full fare. And probably don't get the ticket checked in either direction. That's infuriating. I have actually stormed the length of the train to find the guard and said "LOOK AT MY TICKET" before lol :)

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use the Gold card. Worth having if you spend around £500/year in railfares (including friends when travelling together).
      Note the stations you ask for in the season ticket have to be in the South East, but you never have to go there to enjoy discounts all over the UK

  • @nathanfarnell672
    @nathanfarnell672 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What about an “Ordinary Person’s” railcard? I’m too old for the 16-25 and too young for the old gits railcard! The only way I could get on is if moved to the London area, stopped travelling alone, joined the armed forces, became a mature student or became disabled! Why isn’t there a national railcard for the ordinary single passenger aged 26 to 59? Plug that hole and we’ll be laughing!

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use the Gold card. Worth having if you spend around £500/year in railfares (including friends when travelling together).
      Note the stations you ask for in the season ticket have to be in the South East, but you never have to go there to enjoy discounts all over the UK

  • @meganfurtado6229
    @meganfurtado6229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pdf is unavailable. Would you mind updating it? Thanks.

  • @merlinzauber1000
    @merlinzauber1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    question: if i buy the railcard at a station ticket office, will i be given a true plastic card or some paper thing?

  • @emmavincent5135
    @emmavincent5135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the 16-25 do you still have to buy train tickets or can you just get on with the railcard and that’s already “paid” for it

  • @takemeaway285
    @takemeaway285 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That map you showed illustrating the Network Railcard is inaccurate. I wish I could use one for my many journeys from Ipswich, but it's not actually within the zone.

    • @AllTheStations
      @AllTheStations  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ah good spot! it's just outside isn't it. Get a Gold Card instead!

  • @harrierjames7727
    @harrierjames7727 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tip 3: use rovers if you're travelling in largely the same area of the country

  • @janeknight3597
    @janeknight3597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And if you shop at Tesco use your point to buy the card.