for those wondering i can also confirm this tactic is effective with lower league teams ive tried it in my save managing bangor 1876 in the cymru north despite prediction of finishing 9th i managed to win the league gaining promotion and winning the Nathaniel mg cup knocking out the mighty TNS along the way
I have used these tactics with my amateur team before and put all the technical tiki-taka type players in the midfield (all 4 players). When the false 9 (brain of the team) made smart drops between defense and midfield lines, we absolutely destroyed everyone we played against through the middle. We were always 5v3, 5v4 at the center. It took a long time for opponents to realize what we are doing and it was too late when they finally crowded the mid. If you have high passing quality-technical midfielders and a smart false 9, these tactics are like a cheat code in amateur level. You will create a lot of chances through the middle: open shots within 25 yards, 1v1 with goalie using through balls, leaving your wingers 1v1 with the full backs when you make a late switch etc.
Great Video! Reminds me of Girona's playstyle under Michel. Would be interesting to see results and stats of the players. The problem I have with this tactic at Barcelona is that it does not elevate certain player profiles. DeJong for example is arguably the most talented player in the team and is greatly underused as a DM on Defend. Its literally his worst possible role!
You can't contain with only 3 men in defense in football, you will get destroyed in a real game. You need to make one of the midfielders to drop as a defender when you lose possession and make number 10 fall back as midfielder. That's how they used to play. You also need to play through the center using center overload with mids and the false 9 and switch later to wings or put through balls to half spaces left behind by the opponent center back following false 9. If you play with Romario as poacher, then you need to play with a classic no 10 rather than a shadow striker, otherwise you will lose numerical superiority in the mid which is the entire point of this kind of football. Also, the wingers can be inside forwards (if they aren't fast dribblers so they can't go all the way to the goal line) to even get extra numbers in the middle, when the defenders progress on the wing or when the center overload already worked.
Cruyff used the 343 against a classic 442 so he always have numerical superiority on defense. 3 defenders vs 2 strikers, and on attack Guardiola always Keep his position while Koeman take the long shots.
Ajax won champions league 1995 with this but only using 1 widecentreback, left 2 centreback behind, cruyff win 4 titles at barcelona early 90 also using 343 with more extreme using 2 widecentreback attacking halfspace, Guardiola also sometime using this at City but only with 1 widecentreback with Gvardiol or Stones.
Really like this tactic. Similar to my 343 on my United rebuild. Went for a Busby style tactic in a 343 but I'm using wing play with a tiny bit more directness.
somehow using Winger didnt had freedom and flair effect at this Cruyff Formation, i preffered Inverted Winger with free to roam for my flanks, reduce your crossing plays if your attackers are too mobile like false nine and second strikers. for midfielder i preffered Ball Winning Midfielder role, these role is main Cogs for transitions if you add take more risks and dribble more, its so Gerrard style using BWM added those PI. for Defensive partner with Centreback i am using Halfback to cover WideCentreback area as i preffered one or 2 Widecentreback join in Midfield.
Just because there inverted winger doesn't mean they are to roam. The idea of his wide plajers was to hold the width and the wingers do that best you can still get them to make moves inside and roam
Awesome stuff. Really love the 316 shape in attack. Central overload and max width giving opponents a lot to worry about through numerical superiority. I know it’s a bit counterintuitive to trying something “different” tactic-wise but how do you suggest I can engineer a 316 shape in attack from a base 433 or 4231?
This is iconic tactically from Cruyff!! But its only tactics built on a 3 man base. Its an inversion of 3-5-2. Position?? Am I a second striker or covering into wing back?? Its fluid tactically
@@trequinho if that is the case, why not 433 with a flat 3 midfield utilising a AP(A) /CM(A) with two no rotating roles in the midfield. Then in defence, we have two IFBs and a libero pushing into the midfield to create the diamond in the middle.
Because these teams played with 4 at the back not 3. Koeman became a central midfielder when they had the ball, leaving 3 defenders and Guardiola behind. Koeman and Guardiola also were tactically great. Werent great at man to man, but perfectly played passing spaces.
@@Herosennin Those teams played 4-3-3 against one-striker systems or in big games. But use the 3-4-3 diamond against the 4-4-2 in La Liga. It was really a counter against the classic 4-4-2.
@@sld1776 No. Cruyff himself has stated this many times in regards of how the Netherlands and Barca played. He has always and I mean, always played a 4-3-3. He even had to explain this to Dutch pundits at the time who often viewed his team as a 3-4-3 as well. The reason why they sort of 'shifted' defensively vs a 4 man midfield, is because Cruyff in his own words:' I am way more defensive than people think I am,' stated that he mostly found it important to not be overloaded in midfield. That's why the libero, number 10 and 'false 9' existed in his tactics. Basically at all points in time, you can have at least 4 players in every part of the field depending on how the ball progresses and you can stay in a '4-3-3' in this way no matter the formation another team puts out. Basically its like this. 4-3-3 starting out the back, once the midfield is reached it turns into a 3-4-3 but quickly turns into a 3-3-4 when in offense with both the striker as number 10 being interchangable. Ultimately it's a 4-3-3. Hell why do you think the Dutch became known for 4-3-3.
for those wondering i can also confirm this tactic is effective with lower league teams ive tried it in my save managing bangor 1876 in the cymru north despite prediction of finishing 9th i managed to win the league gaining promotion and winning the Nathaniel mg cup knocking out the mighty TNS along the way
Love this will pin 📍 it 🤘🤘
I have used these tactics with my amateur team before and put all the technical tiki-taka type players in the midfield (all 4 players). When the false 9 (brain of the team) made smart drops between defense and midfield lines, we absolutely destroyed everyone we played against through the middle. We were always 5v3, 5v4 at the center. It took a long time for opponents to realize what we are doing and it was too late when they finally crowded the mid. If you have high passing quality-technical midfielders and a smart false 9, these tactics are like a cheat code in amateur level. You will create a lot of chances through the middle: open shots within 25 yards, 1v1 with goalie using through balls, leaving your wingers 1v1 with the full backs when you make a late switch etc.
Great Video! Reminds me of Girona's playstyle under Michel. Would be interesting to see results and stats of the players.
The problem I have with this tactic at Barcelona is that it does not elevate certain player profiles. DeJong for example is arguably the most talented player in the team and is greatly underused as a DM on Defend. Its literally his worst possible role!
Yeah I agree doesn't suit him maybe put him in defence libero
You can't contain with only 3 men in defense in football, you will get destroyed in a real game. You need to make one of the midfielders to drop as a defender when you lose possession and make number 10 fall back as midfielder. That's how they used to play. You also need to play through the center using center overload with mids and the false 9 and switch later to wings or put through balls to half spaces left behind by the opponent center back following false 9. If you play with Romario as poacher, then you need to play with a classic no 10 rather than a shadow striker, otherwise you will lose numerical superiority in the mid which is the entire point of this kind of football. Also, the wingers can be inside forwards (if they aren't fast dribblers so they can't go all the way to the goal line) to even get extra numbers in the middle, when the defenders progress on the wing or when the center overload already worked.
Cruyff used the 343 against a classic 442 so he always have numerical superiority on defense. 3 defenders vs 2 strikers, and on attack Guardiola always
Keep his position while Koeman take the long shots.
Ajax won champions league 1995 with this but only using 1 widecentreback, left 2 centreback behind, cruyff win 4 titles at barcelona early 90 also using 343 with more extreme using 2 widecentreback attacking halfspace, Guardiola also sometime using this at City but only with 1 widecentreback with Gvardiol or Stones.
Get in Matty,gotta love a Cruyff-ball style.Cheers mate,keep up the grind buddy 😉💪🦾
Thanks pal
Really like this tactic. Similar to my 343 on my United rebuild. Went for a Busby style tactic in a 343 but I'm using wing play with a tiny bit more directness.
Ah nice 👍👍👍
somehow using Winger didnt had freedom and flair effect at this Cruyff Formation, i preffered Inverted Winger with free to roam for my flanks, reduce your crossing plays if your attackers are too mobile like false nine and second strikers. for midfielder i preffered Ball Winning Midfielder role, these role is main Cogs for transitions if you add take more risks and dribble more, its so Gerrard style using BWM added those PI. for Defensive partner with Centreback i am using Halfback to cover WideCentreback area as i preffered one or 2 Widecentreback join in Midfield.
Just because there inverted winger doesn't mean they are to roam. The idea of his wide plajers was to hold the width and the wingers do that best you can still get them to make moves inside and roam
Awesome stuff. Really love the 316 shape in attack. Central overload and max width giving opponents a lot to worry about through numerical superiority. I know it’s a bit counterintuitive to trying something “different” tactic-wise but how do you suggest I can engineer a 316 shape in attack from a base 433 or 4231?
So you could do 433 with the left bk as a CWB attack and the right back IFB. Then two 8s like B2B or mezza or cm attack or even ap attack
@@trequinho do you think IWB attack/support could act as one of the CMs the diamond in possession. I’ve not been able to play beta
This is iconic tactically from Cruyff!! But its only tactics built on a 3 man base. Its an inversion of 3-5-2. Position?? Am I a second striker or covering into wing back?? Its fluid tactically
Maybe do sacchi or Diego Simone next
I’m sick of how often everyone uses 433 constantly
Good shout 👏
Could we get a Erik ten hag Ajax 21/22 season please
Is the diamond in the middle a defensive shape or an attacking shape during build up?
Well it's more for the attacking structure with Cruyff obsessed with angles
@@trequinho if that is the case, why not 433 with a flat 3 midfield utilising a AP(A) /CM(A) with two no rotating roles in the midfield. Then in defence, we have two IFBs and a libero pushing into the midfield to create the diamond in the middle.
Maybe a John Mousinho tactic please
I can say pal that won't be that high right now
Any chance on a training video in the future ?
Yes will be out during November 👌
I think this is too risky. You can go with a 433, all CMs no DMs then with a libero and IFBs
Or 4231 with IFBs and libero
You don't get the movements then also libero in FM won't do what Koeman did
Can you get this on console if so what tactic style ?
The idea is you copy across into your game
Nice!
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i tried to fix this problem by changing the dlp to an anchor will see how it goes
What problem ?
Also guardiola isn't an anchor you won't get the creativity on anchor
@@trequinho cover the spaces i’m trying
Use the HB role with more risky passes
It was a back4 in defence originally though
I didn't give a year.
Koeman and Guardiola couldn't mark their own shadows. I wonder how that tactic worked at all.
They kept the ball so they didn't have to defend maybe 😂
Because these teams played with 4 at the back not 3. Koeman became a central midfielder when they had the ball, leaving 3 defenders and Guardiola behind.
Koeman and Guardiola also were tactically great. Werent great at man to man, but perfectly played passing spaces.
@@Herosennin Those teams played 4-3-3 against one-striker systems or in big games. But use the 3-4-3 diamond against the 4-4-2 in La Liga. It was really a counter against the classic 4-4-2.
@@sld1776 No. Cruyff himself has stated this many times in regards of how the Netherlands and Barca played.
He has always and I mean, always played a 4-3-3. He even had to explain this to Dutch pundits at the time who often viewed his team as a 3-4-3 as well.
The reason why they sort of 'shifted' defensively vs a 4 man midfield, is because Cruyff in his own words:' I am way more defensive than people think I am,' stated that he mostly found it important to not be overloaded in midfield.
That's why the libero, number 10 and 'false 9' existed in his tactics. Basically at all points in time, you can have at least 4 players in every part of the field depending on how the ball progresses and you can stay in a '4-3-3' in this way no matter the formation another team puts out.
Basically its like this. 4-3-3 starting out the back, once the midfield is reached it turns into a 3-4-3 but quickly turns into a 3-3-4 when in offense with both the striker as number 10 being interchangable.
Ultimately it's a 4-3-3. Hell why do you think the Dutch became known for 4-3-3.
@@Herosennin. This is incorrect. You're taking his quotes of context and making them fit into your narrative.
My friend pleaseeee i want to tactic olumpiakos with coach Diego martinez
Yeah I heard you
Emery 442
tactical style?
Whatever you wanna call Cruyff's style
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