The Lost Istanas, did you know there were over 20 of them in Singapore? | History Mysteries EP6

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  • Adrian discovers that contrary to public belief, there are more than just one Istana in Singapore. In fact, there are more than 20! So where are or were these istanas located? Why were there so many? And what actually makes an istana an istana?
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  • @daisybb8148
    @daisybb8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    Funny how the real history of Singapore was left to be forgotten and not taught to the schools is Spore. Its very sad. Poor kids in Spore have always thought that before Raffles arrived, Spore's only inhabitants were Orang Lauts and was a meer fishing village. Such rich history left to be forgotten. What a shame, very sad 😔. Thank you for this wonderful video 👍

    • @9razzler9
      @9razzler9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      i remembered how in history classes back when I was in sec school, so much focus on raffles and after he arrived. all these things in the video, I don't remember being discussed in details

    • @daisybb8148
      @daisybb8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@wanmas7075 Agree with you

    • @tombakmelayu3379
      @tombakmelayu3379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Chinese don't want o accept that Singapore was under Malay rules long time ago

    • @mohamedanshaf7108
      @mohamedanshaf7108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@tombakmelayu3379 Exactly.

    • @chrisjones2584
      @chrisjones2584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tombakmelayu3379 yes! But also the Malays... because it was pre-Islam

  • @visuallin
    @visuallin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    The reason we are not taught this in History class is because this is deemed by the powers that be that this is only Malay history. When in fact this is also Singapore's rich history. A history all Singaporeans should be proud off irregardless of ethnicity.

  • @wakkinem9022
    @wakkinem9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    We dont believe in what Raffles said and what they taught us in schools with British textbooks and the whole colonial ideology. Singapura was already a thriving port since Sang Nila Utama but Raffles cheated the Malays when he wanted to take over the island.

  • @yuntingtan5855
    @yuntingtan5855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    It’s sad that such local heritage is not covered in Singapore’s education syllabus. We learn so much of the heritage of our archipelagos in Malaysia , including Singapore’s founding stories and the British rule :) hope Sarafian continues his research!!

    • @zagzomany
      @zagzomany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Our colonial history needs to be unlearned and local/regional history to be relearned. Our biases and psychological complexes are very much due to how history is taught.

    • @sarafiansalleh6200
      @sarafiansalleh6200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. More of our local heritage in my channel
      th-cam.com/video/KoaBxYKupbA/w-d-xo.html

    • @littlediana6423
      @littlediana6423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Singapore government already changed Singapore's history as they want it to be....

    • @mojataxko3802
      @mojataxko3802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zagzomany i still remember in my history class, my teacher told me that history was written by the winner. So history shouldn't be thought as the ultimate fact. There's always two side of the story.

    • @adnanabdulhamid8763
      @adnanabdulhamid8763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We know all this when we read and hear from our elderly. When history was taught in primary school in 70s my Malay teachers would always tell of such stories to us. Even at Malay Lamguage classes. Really enjoyed it. Somehow when history and Goegrapjy was removed as subjects in Primary level that's where probably we lost all this. Don't blame the British lah. It's us to determine what we want to teach. Even now history subject in Sec schools are devoid of such stories and info. Tsk tsk

  • @jameslim3850
    @jameslim3850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Malays will always be recognized as the original natives of this land call Singapura and all races that made up Singapore will contribute and share the space we call home and prosper together as one.

    • @bunnystrasse
      @bunnystrasse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Does it matter? Is it important to the modern day?

    • @sarafiansalleh6200
      @sarafiansalleh6200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      th-cam.com/video/0Xyd1LMFLfM/w-d-xo.html

    • @sarafiansalleh6200
      @sarafiansalleh6200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/video/0Xyd1LMFLfM/w-d-xo.html

    • @Jamie-yz5hs
      @Jamie-yz5hs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@bunnystrasse There will be no today if it is not from the History way back long time ago!!

    • @Jamie-yz5hs
      @Jamie-yz5hs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Thank you James👍...🇸🇬🇲🇾

  • @azharkhamis8050
    @azharkhamis8050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Singapura was not a sleepy fishing village then. It had a thriving port. That was what Raffles came for.

    • @malaysiadentist4637
      @malaysiadentist4637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Absolutely correct!

    • @malaysiadentist4637
      @malaysiadentist4637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Congratulations Sarafian Salleh for such wonderful research, knowledge and puting the history right!

    • @munirahhayatimuhtar7735
      @munirahhayatimuhtar7735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The narrative taught to the singaporeans was that 200 years ago the island was empty and the brits brought in chinese and malays to live there. Nonsense. The port island was already inhabited

    • @officialphobia7755
      @officialphobia7755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@munirahhayatimuhtar7735 Sedangkan orang Melayu ni penduduk asal,dalam Gugusan Kepulauan Melayu..Aneh

    • @ayahpinkofficial2769
      @ayahpinkofficial2769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@munirahhayatimuhtar7735 with that... Singaporean should thanks to Brits because has civilized the island...that what they want us to think...

  • @razmanrazak8680
    @razmanrazak8680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    As a royal member of Negri Sembilan (Malaysia), it's very sad for me to watch this video. Singapore was once ruled by a Sultan under the governance of Johor-Riau Sultanate. May Allah bless and protect the descendants of Sultan Hussein there in Singapore.

    • @samli3294
      @samli3294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So sad but it is a fact that need to be faced...if Sultan Hussien and his brother didnt fight for thr throne and power, Raffles wont have upper hand and colonize Singapore

    • @littlediana6423
      @littlediana6423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Boy Umarull sekarang sdg berusaha mendapat Malaysia ('the servants')....

    • @bunnystrasse
      @bunnystrasse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Mr Razman. I see that you are a respect Royal member of the Negri Sembilan state in Malaysia. I respect you and your status.
      I wish to ask you something if you don’t mind? Would you agree with the notion that the Sultans of the time were at fault for agreeing with the British to let the Chinese and Indians into Malaya?

    • @cjwwo8340
      @cjwwo8340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you really royal member?

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@bunnystrasse There's nothing wrong with a Chinese or an Indian wanting to identify as a Malaysian or Singaporean. If their families have been living here for generations and have poured their sweat and blood to elevate the two nations to the position we are in today, then they deserve to be here too.
      As a Singaporean Malay, I believe that I speak on behalf of all Malays when I say that we absolutely welcome and accept all of you as one of our own. There's no reason why we shouldn't get along with one another and live in peace and harmony. But it's also important that you do not diminish or erase our history as the indigenous people of these lands.
      The reason that Malaysia is fighting so hard to protect the status of the Malays as Bumiputeras of the land is because they have seen what happened to Singapore. It's sad to see that many of the younger generation of Singaporeans don't even know the history of our own country. That's why tourists have the impression that Singapore is a Chinese country. Now I'm not trying to be racist but that is just plain disrespectful to the Malays. It's true that the majority of Singaporeans are Chinese but it doesn't mean that history can or should be rewritten.

  • @anwar-scarface
    @anwar-scarface 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    That line drop in the end "Singapore was already thriving and not a sleepy fishing village as someone said" 🤫

    • @Sean-mj9gz
      @Sean-mj9gz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You have to put things into context... The biggest port city in SE Asia before the Brits came was Malacca, then you have Batavia or Jakarta... Singapore is just one of many small trading ports scattered around islands in SE Asia. We're not even the biggest port in our surrounding region. Tanjung Pinang was much than us, the fact that it was the capital of Riau and Johor sultanate tells you everything you need to know.
      When Raffles came, there was only around 1000 people INCLUDING all the orang lauts (Orang Kallang, Orang Seletar) scattered all over the island, these are written records. You consider that a thriving port city? You compare Singapore to Malacca where wars are fought between the Bugis, the Dutch and the Portugese. They are a big fortress city... How do you even compare Singapore to that?
      You look at present day Singapore. We're still the 2nd biggest port in the world after being No.1 for many years, only overtaken by Shanghai China in 2010.
      What is a fishing village then? If you go to Batam and pass by some of their smaller outer islands, you can still see fishing villages of maybe a few hundred people. Are those thriving port cities?... Even if we're not a fishing village, anyone who tries to sell you the idea that Singapore was once a thriving port before the Brits arrive is not being truthful either.

    • @mangotango7647
      @mangotango7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      To hide history is to hide the real identity of the malays who used to be masters of the seas, known for building humongous ships called 'Jong'', thousands of years ago.The chinese then made smaller ones called junk. Malacca is huge and S'pore is part of it, trading internationally then. Why don't the S'pore govt rebuild all these palaces and open to the public to these heritage sites?

    • @mangotango7647
      @mangotango7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Sean-mj9gz malaysian academics hv bn unravelling the hidden history of the Malay Archipelago and the malay people . The colonials wrote history according to their own interests

    • @Sean-mj9gz
      @Sean-mj9gz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@mangotango7647 ,
      Of course... That's what those in power do, write history according to their point of view... But I'm not talking about the Malay archipelago, I'm talking about Singapore and the idea that we are a thriving port city.
      You compare us to Malacca. There are so many historical records written about Malacca, it can probably fill thousands of pages. Yet there's almost nothing written about Singapore before the Brits came... Other than bits and pieces written here and there, you probably can't fill a single paragraph about Singapore history before 1819.
      Even Chinese records about Singapore are scant. Why? Why did Chinese records not mention Singapore in more detail if we are a thriving port city. They have no reason to lie... When Zheng He came to this region, did he stop here? He bypass Singapore and went straight to Malacca! Zheng He make 7 trips passing by Singapore and he never stop in Singapore once... By the way Chinese junks are not small, Zheng He's Chinese junks are the biggest ships in the world, that was in the 14th century.

    • @mangotango7647
      @mangotango7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Sean-mj9gz S'pore was part of M'sia then. Much of malay history hs bn destroyed by the colonials. History of Malacca has alot of distortions too. M'sian Prof Dr Mat Rofa found his findings from Islamic sources on malay ppl. Some academics found the mention of Hang Tuah in Japanese sources. Hang Tuah existed. He's not a legend. We make up the second largest race of the world. An academic found that our DNA is closest to native of Israel. It is indeed shocking news bcoz if that is true, then, we are probably the 'lost tribe' of Israel who were once very powerful and hv our own civilisation. Why do foreign forces colonised our land? It has to do with world domination. What they do is divide and rule and rewrote our history to weaken us.

  • @gypseeman
    @gypseeman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This should be taught in our schools.
    A true Singapore Heritage
    Surprised that it took Adrian to show us this hidden past.
    Its sad that many Singaporeans are not aware of our local history.
    Thanks to all involved. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @sgMdS
      @sgMdS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is taught in the Singapore Education Syllabus: HISTORY. TEACHING AND LEARNING SYLLABUSES. Lower Secondary. Course Unit 1. From Temasek to Singapore (1299 - early 1800s).

    • @sgMdS
      @sgMdS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then Unit 2. Singapore’s Development as a Port City under the British (1819 - 1942)

    • @njannah97
      @njannah97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sgMdS Gleamed and glossed through with not much focus and emphasis.

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@sgMdSThey essentially skimmed over that chapter of our history. Barely scratching the surface.

    • @maytan1622
      @maytan1622 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Adrian

  • @datozuraidah
    @datozuraidah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Thank you Adrian Pang and Sarafian Salleh. Very informative indeed. It speaks volumes of the history and historical data and facts that should be preserved and studied by not just by Singaporeans and Malaysians, but also Indonesians as the history involved the Malay-Riau Archipelago history. There are lessons to be learnt from history, but what is most remarkable is when there are efforts to unearth them. Most thankful to the team for doing this episode. All the best! Stay safe. God Bless.

    • @sarafiansalleh6200
      @sarafiansalleh6200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most welcome DZ.

    • @ryandias9815
      @ryandias9815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MR ADRIAN PANG,
      RYAN MICHAEL DIAS.
      32
      EURASIAN
      SINGAPOREAN CITIZEN.

  • @zafirzainal394
    @zafirzainal394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Poor Adrian Pang always have to carry that bag around.

  • @KnocknockCraftworks
    @KnocknockCraftworks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I’m proud to had spent my childhood on the property of Istana Woodneuk. 12 years of my childhood.(I’m in my early 30s) The Istana was somewhat like a playground for my siblings and I. It started with my late grandfather who was the caretaker of the land. We had aunts and uncles living on that land too before they slowly moved out with their families. Really miss those times.

    • @emmetigerimau6639
      @emmetigerimau6639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ada gambar2 kah?

    • @KnocknockCraftworks
      @KnocknockCraftworks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@emmetigerimau6639 yes ade.

    • @faizsamsudin9371
      @faizsamsudin9371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn we be happy had we found u and interview u for this show....

    • @KnocknockCraftworks
      @KnocknockCraftworks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@faizsamsudin9371 there was quite a number of articles written about the land but sadly most writers think that the residence have passed. How I wish someone had interviewed my mother and aunts.

    • @sharifahaminah7225
      @sharifahaminah7225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The one that stayed there Istana is Tengku Puteh family
      The children of Tengku Puteh is still around
      I also played there before
      I still in touch with them
      I'm very sad 😭

  • @blinderlane2013
    @blinderlane2013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dulu den duduk kek kuartes KTM kat Tg Pagar.. Selalu solat jumaat kat masjid johor.. Skrg den umo dh 40..tgk video ni ingat balik zaman kecik den

  • @yazeedsaid3652
    @yazeedsaid3652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Thanks Sarafian for solving the riddle of Osborne House. I think the local historians tried but couldn't, or may not have been bothered to do something which they think is trivial. What more the authorities, who would rather perpetuate the 'sleepy fishing village/ swamps and mudflats' myth.

    • @mangotango7647
      @mangotango7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Indeed. We need more of 'Sarafian' to unravel the stories of the 'lost' istana. Or hidden? Perhaps to include about the 'hidden' malay history too, which should be rewritten

    • @kim2894
      @kim2894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ummm the authorities literally espoused the new theory during the bicentennial exhibition

    • @sarafiansalleh6200
      @sarafiansalleh6200 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most welcome bro. Thank you

  • @sngjoolian
    @sngjoolian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Thank you for being a good host Wow! We learnt a lot of the History of Istana.Much appreciated.

  • @90taetaeya
    @90taetaeya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This series is sooooooooo good!!! More pleaseeeeee. Can do about Old Changi Hospital, Songs sisters house, Sultan Mosque, Sisters’ island, Christmas Island, Katong, The Old Airports before Changi?

  • @Zero_dgf
    @Zero_dgf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love MediaCorp for open eyes on actual history about Singapore.

  • @nicoleb8424
    @nicoleb8424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Kinda sad that this history is considered mysteries and we only learn about it thru a tv show. Thankfully the new discovery is still untouched by urban development!

  • @djrowena.
    @djrowena. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Back then Sultans played an important role 👏 So thrilled to learn about this, it's so interesting and meaningful history of Sg. Happy to be seeing familiar words & istana with states of Malaysia 🇲🇾 too.

  • @POPCULTURECHANNEL
    @POPCULTURECHANNEL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Singapore was once Malaysia in 1963. Long time ago, Singapore was called Temasik and was ruled for thousands of years by Malay rulers. Temasik/Singapore was the beginning of kerajaan Melayu by Parameswara who later opened Malacca as the most epic empire in South East Asia and even world around 1414-1511. After Malacca, Singapore was a long time ago in the Johor empire and this includes Bintan and Riau-Lingga.
    Later came British colonials who brought along Chinese from China and workers to work for them. British ruled Singapore and practically stole Singapore and Malay peninsular and Sarawak/ Sabah from the Malay empire. The British was practically invading.. After they stole everything including the lands natural wealth like tins, gold and practically stay here like they own the lands, and when they think they had enough, they changed the history b4 they flee off , and the land were divided as in now. It is important to know your history. Google it.

    • @tombakmelayu3379
      @tombakmelayu3379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great and accurate explanation..

    • @rudychng
      @rudychng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is also important that you not lump the history of Brunei, Sarawak and Sabah together with that of Malaya and Singapore. Thank you.

    • @POPCULTURECHANNEL
      @POPCULTURECHANNEL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rudychng Nusantara has a lumped up history because even Brunei, Sarawak and Sabah is included in Nusantara. Read thoroughly and research it b4 you make this comment.

    • @rudychng
      @rudychng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is unfortunate that people like you go about these comments sections with your condescending attitude, asking everyone to read up first. I had written a little treatise previously but I realised it would be wasted on someone who has already made up these grand schemes in their mind. But while we're at it, maybe you should read up a little about being relevant to the topic, before commenting. This is about Singapore and by extension, Malaya, and then you bring in Sarawak and Sabah? And then justify it by saying it is a common Nusantara history? Aside from trade links, culture and similarities in a shared Austronesian heritage, we in Borneo had a very distinct historical journey up until 1963. If you want to lump things up, where do you stop? Lump up with China and India as well, since there was strong trade links, passage of food, ideas, religions, people, and a common oppression at the hands of the colonial powers? Lump in Africa and the Middle East too while you're at it.
      In case you are actually interested, read up more about Brunei thalassocracy, and about how they DIDN'T actually control the tribal hinterland. Read up as well about the struggle the Brookes and the BNBCC dealt with to actually take control of land supposedly belonging to Brunei and ceded to them, but in reality being tribal lands free of Brunei control. Also read up about how most of these lands were ceded by Brunei, via sultans, temenggongs, etc in their own capacity as kerajaan, tulin and kuripan holders. Contrary to what Malayans like to believe, a lot of land was ceded for pure financial gain. Yes not all, but most. Ever wonder why Brunei doesn't make noise about the loss of Sabah and Sarawak lands, but until recently was very vocal about Limbang being theirs? Also read up about the origin of Brunei's rulers. A clue. Not Malay.
      When you are done, and when your api is no longer membara, then maybe you can also start to step back and see that history is a lot about the strong oppressing the weak, the sly manipulating the naive. British oppressing the colonised, the Malays oppressing the orang asli, the Chinese oppressing even suppressing the non-Sinitic people of what is now South China, even the martial tribes of Borneo raiding and sometimes wiping out entire longhouse communities of other tribes, sometimes even of their own tribe. And when the weak become strong, they usually also end up doing the same bad things at some point. No one's hands are clean.

    • @POPCULTURECHANNEL
      @POPCULTURECHANNEL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rudychng Why are u so pressed? Way back long ago, Brunei, Sabah and Sarawak was still a part of Nusantara tanah Melayu. The history does not change. Please check your history knowledge. And they all did get colonized or messed up by British. Read my 1st statement carefully before getting upset for no reasons. Fact is history never change. If you would kindly google Nusantara and read up. By the way, what do you mean 'people like me' ?

  • @thefrogbuddies
    @thefrogbuddies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The funny thing is LKY came back from London and thanked Raffles in his speech. One nation lost Temasek and another 60 plus small islands and that migrant people had the last laugh till today 🧐

  • @mugen18
    @mugen18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I always wondered what that ruins in kallang was. Thank you sarafian for your work on digging up singapore forgotten histories.

  • @JJRed888
    @JJRed888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    More documentaries and even docudramas on Singapore's long history please, Mediacorp, it is fascinating!

  • @aishahrizd
    @aishahrizd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Hi I think the subtitles are slightly incorrect. “Balai room” that is refered to in the video 7:45 onwards is balairung (malay term). Thank u for such an informative video!

    • @sarafiansalleh6200
      @sarafiansalleh6200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes you are right. It’s Balairong (Balai Orang)

  • @bobafett5757
    @bobafett5757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Brilliant show and Adrian is an amazing host. Hope for more mysterious location episode and would love to know about the mystery in Sentosa, Tekong and other secluded islands.

  • @myownlilbubble
    @myownlilbubble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Can Mediacorp do a series on the olden folklores of Temasek such as Badang, Nadim and Redhill/Bukit Merah, history of Telok Belangah, etc?

  • @tonyquek6157
    @tonyquek6157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow! Didn’t know we had 20 Istanas in Sgp. Thank you for this documentary! 👍

  • @Jamie-yz5hs
    @Jamie-yz5hs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am so proud of Singapore history

  • @tripleas83
    @tripleas83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Such a good Show... Much appreciated.

  • @crosbyong
    @crosbyong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great informative episode! THANK YOU!

  • @imranhamid6300
    @imranhamid6300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is amazing documentary history of Singapore! I m speechless!

  • @sayme3236
    @sayme3236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh wow, how fascinating! I love umcover the old history and the finding that help us to understand the past. Great episode Adrian

  • @tngchinghwa
    @tngchinghwa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    17:40 i always cycle nearby this area and always wonder what is this plot of land, now i finally know....

  • @justwalk-travelasmrchannel1630
    @justwalk-travelasmrchannel1630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is an awesome show! i could pick up places i should be doing my virtual walks to!!

  • @iyandarmawan2012
    @iyandarmawan2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really enjoyed watching this historical documentary 👍👍👍♥️♥️♥️🙏🙏🙏

  • @rhanahashim8199
    @rhanahashim8199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tnk u very much for the influx of info.Syabas,Sarafian.Salute....

  • @ShafiqArifin
    @ShafiqArifin 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Joined Sarafian for his tours in Singapore. Indeed a very knowledgeable gentleman!

  • @97901433
    @97901433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, i really learnt so much from this video. Thank you.

  • @TheAnahrafkazar
    @TheAnahrafkazar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍 impressive.. This is great,more please!

  • @azmihassan5527
    @azmihassan5527 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We needed more episode

  • @mohamedeusoff65
    @mohamedeusoff65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well done !!!

  • @lanbidin4440
    @lanbidin4440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tq sarafian..

  • @evvortexofficial
    @evvortexofficial ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this series

  • @helmilentor9393
    @helmilentor9393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this is interesting. I hope we get more information about the other istanas.

  • @mokhtarhassan8043
    @mokhtarhassan8043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Some clarification perhaps. Port Master or Harbour Master in the Malay Sultanate of old is known as the Shah Bandar and not Temenggong. Temenggong is head of public security or what is now the Police. Do take note.

    • @mybraintalks
      @mybraintalks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      exactly. Temenggong is the chief of Police. Panglima is the head of Military. Shah Bandar is the head of Trade or Harbour Master.

    • @apess43
      @apess43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Laksamana is the Chief of Navy. Bendahara is the Chief of Minister cum Finance Minister or Right Hand of the Sultan's. This is all Malay senior post in the Istana.

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In this case, he was essentially the governor or viceroy that was appointed to govern Temasek as a representative of the Sultan of the Johor-Riau sultanate. The seat of power of the Sultanate was situated on the Riau island of Lingga.
      So he's not wrong to call the Temenggong a village chieftain or port master as he likely wore more than one hat and oversaw all matters related to the governance of the island.

  • @rbc812
    @rbc812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing.

  • @CharmEng89
    @CharmEng89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please do a programme on what's known of the other istanas! I love that what we learned in school is being challenged so that we develop a more mature, nuanced view of our history.

  • @hambatuhan5751
    @hambatuhan5751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Singapura was a descendent of malay maritime empire call srivijaya that ruled archipelago

  • @maay5637
    @maay5637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Singapore was known as Temasik a very strategic Island of international trades between East Asia n Europe hundreds of years..

  • @MicaRayan
    @MicaRayan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice original-shaped istanas! Love it all

  • @paladin1721
    @paladin1721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job Adrian :)

  • @UnwrappingByMimiKoteng
    @UnwrappingByMimiKoteng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing

  • @TheRupertQ
    @TheRupertQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do PART 2!!!!

  • @rafizahawi3401
    @rafizahawi3401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have spooky mystery experience at the Istana Temenggong.. 🥶🥶🥶

    • @sarafiansalleh6200
      @sarafiansalleh6200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can share with me your stories via my email at diagnoveritas@gmail.com

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pray tell..

  • @zayyad31
    @zayyad31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thks for this info videos.. so it shows that Sg was not just a sleepy fishing village but was an important trading port under d Riau Sultanate.. n not a mosquito infested swamp either but a crown colony..

  • @aneres1428
    @aneres1428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Looking forward to more historic discoveries hosted by Adrian.

  • @khaichern
    @khaichern 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    @20:30 wow how dare he question what the great leader said hahahhaa. 'Sleeping village' is the biggest lie in Singapore history

    • @firhanjasni
      @firhanjasni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I heard fishing village. I might be wrong.

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@firhanjasniI think he meant a sleepy fishing village.

  • @conned
    @conned ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what happened to their descendants? Living in d9,10,11,Monaco, Maybach, Rolls..Gulfstream....
    Very interesting n weird how many land parcels here belong to foreign states?
    Loved this program! ❤
    " to interrogate the people...18:10"😂..loved how sarafian speaks with such passion n authority on the research.!

  • @sushisin377
    @sushisin377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting

  • @purnimavenkatachalam
    @purnimavenkatachalam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys should explore the haunted house in Punggol. The Matilda house. Would love to see u explore

  • @odechan9659
    @odechan9659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is there one at Marine Parade? I always refer it as the Gatsby looking house

  • @waubulan3320
    @waubulan3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Baik-baik mengail tenggiri. Takut terkena ikan parang; Baik-baik merendah diri. Jangan jadi hamba orang.

  • @candytwins1
    @candytwins1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this show so much! Pls keep on going! Sentosa has rich history too! 😉

  • @penjualkarya4559
    @penjualkarya4559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kesultanan Singapura ada sebelum Kesultanan Melaka. Boleh rujuk filem-filem Melayu klasik Cathay Keris. Cerita Dang Anum. Dalam buku Karya Abdullah Munshi juga ada dinyatakan sewaktu zamannya Itu, mereka jumpa tinggalan lama yg berkaitan kerajaan Melayu sebelum zaman kerajaan Singapura atau Johor tapi Inggeris waktu tu tak berminat mengkaji tinggalan sejarah tersebut yg pastinya lebih menunjukkan peradaban Bangsa Melayu.

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Betul. Singapura pernah dijajah oleh kerajaan Siam pada abad ke 13 dan 14. Parameswara atau lebih dikenali sebagai Sultan Iskandar Shah yg menubuhkan kerajaan Kesultanan Melaka terdahulunya telah mencuba menubuhkan kerajaan di Temasek sebelum melarikan diri ke Melaka kerana diburu oleh musuh2nya. Temasek pernah juga diperintah oleh seorang putera yg berasal dari Tanah Jawa di mana anak perempuannya Puteri Radin Mas Ayu menjadi sosok lagenda di dalam sejarah melayu. Makam Radin Mas Ayu masih wujud hingga ke hari ini dan terletak di Bukit Mount Faber di kawasan Telok Belanga. Banyak sejarah melayu di Singapura yg telah hilang ditelan zaman.

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bukit Larangan atau sekarang dikenali sebagai Fort Canning Hill merupakan tempat di mana dipercayai pernah wujud peradaban lama. Ketika British baru menjajah kami, nama Bukit Larangan sudah pun wujud sebab penduduk2 di kawasan situ ketika itu tidak mahu mendaki bukit itu. Mereka mengatakan bahawa itu kawasan terlarang dan pernah diduduki oleh raja2 zaman dahulu. Namun pihak British tidak mengambil endah dan mendirikan istana mereka di atas bukit itu dan menukar namanya kepada Fort Canning Hill. Selepas kemerdekaan Singapura pd tahun 1965, pihak pemerintah pernah menjalankan excavation di kawasan bukit itu dan menjumpai artifak2 archaeologi yg berusia ratusan tahun.

  • @mangotango7647
    @mangotango7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for unravelling this part of history which many of us are clueless of

  • @jasnisudin2668
    @jasnisudin2668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @kampungtoh
    @kampungtoh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To Sufian : If the Land from Bugis, My aunty also from Bugis . She also can claimed the Land of Temmenggong at Telok Belangah Mosque .

  • @AnasSuhaimi
    @AnasSuhaimi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Balai Rong, not Balai Room
    Balai refer to structures where the public would come and congregate, be it a royal audience hall, community hall, ceremonial hall.
    Balai rong is as described in the video, a place where leader would receive audience from his subjects.

    • @mrr4979
      @mrr4979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      balai room

  • @matklmyusoff6949
    @matklmyusoff6949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In the olden days , during the era of Johor/Riau kingdom , Tumasik was recognised as the " tangga " of Johor and most of the extended territories were managed by the appointed Temengong . Was the Sultan or the Temenggong that granted Tumasik as Settlement status to the British Crowns ? . How was it written in the historical text of Tumasik or Singapore as it is known now ?
    If Hong Kong was handed back to China , Penang , Dinding a province in the State of Perak and Malaka was returned to Malaya why not Tumasik be returned to Johor ? Johor seems to have several Istanas and owns fairly large tracks of land in Singapore . One and many would wonder the power and guiles of the British Crown to turn a settlement into a Colony and Singapore gained independence from Malaysia ?????? .
    Need some help here. !!!

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sultanate of Johor-Riau was basically contested by the two sons of the preceding sultan. So the story goes, when the former sultan died, Tengku Hussein, the eldest son of the king, (and by default the next in line of succession), was away on a business trip. Greedy and scheming ministers who were colluding with the Dutch then proceeded to crown his younger brother so they could make him a puppet king. He was a relatively weak king so the real power was in the hands of his ministers. You see the Dutch controlled the seas south of Singapore whereas the British controlled the Straits of Melaka.
      When Tengku Hussein returned, he tried to reclaim the throne but eventually lost as the ministers had the support of the Dutch forces. Tengku Hussein was ousted and lived in exile. The seat of power of the Johor-Riau sultanate at the time was not in Johor or Singapore but in Riau island of Lingga. When Stamford Raffles arrived on our shores in 1819 and was seeking to set up a trading port here, he sought permission from the Temenggong of Singapore (or Temasek as it was known at the time), whom he thought was the ruler. It was through him that Raffles learned about the existence of Tengku Hussein. So he sought the prince out and they signed a treaty assuring Tengku Hussein that he had the support of the British and was recognized as the true sultan of Temasek. In return for allowing them to set up a trading port here they awarded him lands that included the land on which Istana Kampung Gelam sits today.
      They promised him protection and autonomy but it was clear that it was all a ruse to get him to surrender Temasek to them. Temasek then broke away from the Riau-Johor sultanate and was henceforth called Singapore. What started as a trading port soon became a full-fledged British colony and it is said that Tengku Hussein died a sad and broken man, knowing that he had been tricked into giving up his kingdom. His descendants continued living in the Istana Kampung Gelam grounds until as recent as the 1990s when the land was acquired by the Singapore government and was converted into a museum/cultural and heritage centre. Not much is known about what happened to his descendants but it's safe to assume that they were paid off by the Singapore government and are still living somewhere in Singapore
      The Johor-Riau sultanate was also eventually dissolved as the British and Dutch grew in power in the region.
      Funny enough, the current Johor royal family are neither the descendants of Tengku Hussein nor his brother, rather they are the descendants of the Temenggong of Temasek whom Raffles initially met when he first landed here in 1819.😂😂 For their loyalty and camaraderie with the British, the Temenggong's family were elevated to the status of royalty and became the new rulers of the new Johor Sultanate, which no longer included Singapore or the Riau islands. The new Johor sultanate was not an actual independent kingdom but rather a vassal state of the British empire like the other sultanates such as Pahang, Kedah etc. Singapore became an independent colony under British rule and the Riau Islands were eventually absorbed by Indonesia.
      So that brings me back to the question of why we cannot be returned to Johor. It's because Singapore was never part of the new Johor Sultanate.

    • @maytan1622
      @maytan1622 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for your informative about Johor's current royalty but on another idea what if theres a breakawy of the state and merged with Singapore and change name of new country back to Singapura or Temasek and make Spore the capital then there would be plenty of land in Singapore except that have to do away with President and have Sultan of Singpura or Sultan of Temasek just my imagination will never happen read too much of fiction

  • @gimzack9282
    @gimzack9282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The host is also a legend

  • @zainizai5165
    @zainizai5165 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alangkah bagusnya jg dimusnahkan istana2 lama yg terdapat di Singapore...ianya berguna untuk genarasi akan dtg bagi penyelidikan berkenaan sejarah...

  • @norizalmdtahir
    @norizalmdtahir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Balai. Balairong = Townhall, Balairong Seri = Townhall for Sultan to address the people. Newer version Balai Polis = Police station, Balai Raya = Community Hall.

  • @ledg8577
    @ledg8577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You my idol AP

  • @rinmukherjee1125
    @rinmukherjee1125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing to know
    How I wish the sultan or temenggong made a better decision

  • @irfannan5379
    @irfannan5379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last one at Kallang turned out to be an enclosure of an old graveyard, mainly catered to the nearby Kg Bugis. The istana was prob around the vicinity, though.

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn't say that that wall is part of the original structure of the old istana. He even mentioned Dutch bricks and something about it being built during the Japanese occupation era. So he's acknowledging that it's a fairly recent structure. I don't think something from the 12th or even 15th century would still be standing in Singapore today., 😂😂

  • @guppydeen1319
    @guppydeen1319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Singapore was under siam rule, temagi was one of the ruler but killed by parameswara. Siam rule was far down south..

  • @idrischedin8265
    @idrischedin8265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tg u info histery..👍👌

  • @rifqiyoutube541
    @rifqiyoutube541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sejarah singapura memang ada kaitan dengan Johor....dan ada kaitan dengan malaysia dulunya singapura adalah dalam negeri negeri selat iaitu penang,melaka dan singapura.....singapura pun dulunya dalam malaysia tetapi telah berpisah pada 9.8.1965...apa apa pun jangan lupa sejarah malaysia dan singapura asalnya serumpun...terpisah kerana masalah politik yang tidak sehaluan...sekarang singapura dan malaysia seperti adik beradik tetapi berlainan negara akan tetapi sama serumpun.

  • @saharuddinsalleh4974
    @saharuddinsalleh4974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I been there in istana..i stillkept the istana photo..beutiful..

  • @finalcurtain6199
    @finalcurtain6199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Penat
    Sedih
    Sementara pemimpin melayu bercakaran berebut kuasa
    Dah dapat kuasa, mencuri merompak

  • @brightstarlavandula3028
    @brightstarlavandula3028 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bertenaga uncle ni...

  • @PJWALL89
    @PJWALL89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Majulah singapura!

  • @rusihanruslan1208
    @rusihanruslan1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Nenek moyang kaya raya ...."

    • @apess43
      @apess43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ~Tergadai seluruh harta benda...

    • @shaquirahmadsuffian7734
      @shaquirahmadsuffian7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@apess43 Akibat sengketa di antara kita..

    • @nigolgonilnigol152
      @nigolgonilnigol152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shaquirahmadsuffian7734 cintaa lenyap di arus zamaaannn🥺🥲

  • @selvasegaren1385
    @selvasegaren1385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Singapore education minister knew this hidden history? Hmmmmm.

  • @ryandias9815
    @ryandias9815 ปีที่แล้ว

    RYAN MICHAEL DIAS.
    32
    29/9/91
    EURASIAN
    SINGAPOREAN CITIZEN
    DIAS FAMILY:
    Craven Aubrey Dias.
    Madam Louise Dias.
    - Junior Richard Dias.
    - Madam Gina Dias.
    - Mr Jojo Dias.
    - Madam Maggie Seth Dias.
    SEAH FAMILY:
    Mr Anthony Seah.
    Madam Theresa Seah Huay.
    - Madam Christine Seah.
    - Mr Thomas Seah.
    - Mrs Helen Seah.
    - Mr Vincent Seah.

  • @Purmeiwansuay
    @Purmeiwansuay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Istana woodneuk haunted lah cb

  • @user-uy7qs1nf2q
    @user-uy7qs1nf2q 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    привет из Москвы очень интересная экскурсия восхищена энтузиазмом и любовью к Сингапуру рабочей группы

  • @FaizalMohdMustapa
    @FaizalMohdMustapa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    interesting that both doesn't make any connection between sultan abu bakar who build istana tyersall and temenggung daeng ibrahim who build istana lama teluk belangga when the temenggung was the sultan's dad.

    • @abdullahba3063
      @abdullahba3063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe it is because Sultan Abu Bakr was originally called the title of Maharaja by the British. Much perturbed by this, he went out of his way to prove that he had royal blood eventually the British changed his title from Maharaja to Sultan. But the Temenggong are not the original sultans of johor. I read before that the original sultan conceded most of his land to the British because he was heavily in debt. Subsequently the British placed the Temenggong in charge of Johor and Singapore

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@abdullahba3063 The sultanate of Johor-Riau was basically bitterly contested by the two sons of the preceding sultan. The story goes, when the former sultan died, Tengku Hussein, the eldest son of the king (and by default the next in line of succession), was away on a business trip. Greedy and scheming ministers who were colluding with the Dutch then proceeded to crown his younger brother so they could make him a puppet king. He was a relatively weak king so the real power was in the hands of his ministers. You see the Dutch controlled the seas south of Singapore whereas the British controlled the Straits of Melaka.
      When Tengku Hussein returned, he tried to reclaim the throne but eventually lost as the ministers had the support of the Dutch forces. Tengku Hussein was ousted and lived in exile. The seat of power of the Johor-Riau sultanate at the time was not in Johor or Singapore but in Riau island of Lingga. When Stamford Raffles arrived on our shores in 1819 and was seeking to set up a trading port here, he sought permission from the Temenggong of Singapore (or Temasek as it was known at the time), whom he thought was the ruler. It was through him that Raffles learned about the existence of Tengku Hussein. So he sought the prince out and they signed a treaty assuring Tengku Hussein that he had the support of the British and was recognized as the true sultan of Temasek. In return for allowing them to set up a trading port here they awarded him lands that included the land on which Istana Kampung Gelam sits today.
      They promised him protection and autonomy but it was clear that it was all a ruse to get him to surrender Temasek to them. Temasek then broke away from the Riau-Johor sultanate and was henceforth called Singapore. What started as a trading port soon became a full-fledged British colony and it is said that Tengku Hussein died a sad and broken man, knowing that he had been tricked into giving up his kingdom. His descendants continued living in the Istana Kampung Gelam grounds until as recent as the 1990s when the land was acquired by the Singapore government and was converted into a museum/cultural and heritage centre. Not much is known about what happened to his descendants but it's safe to assume that they were paid off by the Singapore government and are still living somewhere in Singapore
      The Johor-Riau sultanate was also eventually dissolved as the British and Dutch grew in power in the region.
      Funny enough, the current Johor royal family are neither the descendants of Tengku Hussein nor his brother, rather they are the descendants of the Temenggong of Temasek whom Raffles initially met when he first landed here in 1819.😂😂 For their loyalty and camaraderie with the British, the Temenggong's family were elevated to the status of royalty and became the new rulers of the new Johor Sultanate, which no longer included Singapore or the Riau islands. The new Johor sultanate was not an actual independent kingdom but rather a vassal state of the British empire like the other sultanates such as Pahang, Kedah etc. Singapore became an independent colony under British rule and the Riau Islands were eventually absorbed by Indonesia.

  • @dajai-6394
    @dajai-6394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David saul marshall singapore heritage to

  • @noorjannoorjan1448
    @noorjannoorjan1448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tis istana is more accurate is in p.a and if u look around u will fine a malay cemetery i use to jog frm geylang bahru to old national stadium n tis p.a is short cut its was 40yrs ago

  • @marinhopaais426
    @marinhopaais426 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Singapore loves Raffles a leader from it's colonial past. And honors him with a statue. But what about Singapore's Malay history?

  • @rhyzhenthioz
    @rhyzhenthioz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought you will visit all of them.

  • @bumimsia4037
    @bumimsia4037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Istana Raja Johor Village

  • @ckn3269
    @ckn3269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What with the bag

  • @MrBoliao98
    @MrBoliao98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But very honestly a lot of the smaller istana so small, smaller than a lot of landed these days.

  • @TheElixir007
    @TheElixir007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    20:22 The true history of Singapore explained in just a few sentences.

  • @fujiyamafs
    @fujiyamafs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This region is known Malay Archipelago...
    British brought in the Indian & Chinese immigrants since the Malays refused to work in the plantation & tin mining. The Malays are already comfortable being a planters & fishermen. British was desperate to get these two commodities cultivated during the WW2. British got pissed off, and labelled the Malays as being lazy.
    How could the Malacca straits in the early century became a trading port if the Malays being lazy & got nothing to offer for trading or barter trading?
    Singapore (aka Temasik) exists due to political friction between Tunku & the LKY..
    Know your history...

    • @officialphobia7755
      @officialphobia7755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Benar!

    • @sitimeriam712
      @sitimeriam712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes,I agree what you say. The British make use the people of Malaya to get the two commodoties that is tin and rubber. They brought Chinese and Indian todo work. While the Malays work as fisherman and paddy The British said Malays are lazy but is a lie .

    • @wes00chin
      @wes00chin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm Malaysian and I was always taught in school that the British didn't allow the Malays to do mining or rubber tapping and only allowed them to do farming to keep them poor and uneducated to prevent them from revolting

    • @sahanasulaiman4545
      @sahanasulaiman4545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wes00chin Yes, I read about that too. And also the Malays refused to work for the penjajah

  • @9razzler9
    @9razzler9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHAT WAS IN THAT BAG THAT ADRIAN KEPT CARRYING AROUND?!?!?! LOL

  • @dola.spreadlove447
    @dola.spreadlove447 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    well, Siak is so rich at that time

  • @karebu2
    @karebu2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Are there descendants of the sultan still living in Singapore today?

    • @appl2597
      @appl2597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There's a SCMP article last year about the descendants of the last royal family in Singapore... Most are leading normal lives, though they do get invited to Johor palace for Hari Raya every year. Some of the direct descendants also receive a monthly or yearly stipend from the government but it's a just a small amount.

    • @sarafiansalleh6200
      @sarafiansalleh6200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/0Xyd1LMFLfM/w-d-xo.html

    • @CriticalDesired
      @CriticalDesired 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      did all of them gt killed in colonial era?

    • @appl2597
      @appl2597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CriticalDesired , No they were very well treated. The type of colonisation you're thinking did not happen in Malaya and Singapore... The Malay Royalty and native Malay population were VERY well treated by the British colonial government. Don't believe anyone who says their ancestors were ill treated in the past. That never happen in Singapore and Malaya.

    • @ffendi
      @ffendi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CriticalDesired that's happen in indonesia. not malaya and temasek. by their own people and not colonial master. so sad.