Metal Drummer Reacts to EVER DREAM (NIGHTWISH)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- It's an Ever Dream "battle" between two titans of NIGHTWISH vocals! I watch back to back performances from Tarja and Floor to see how the two vary in style and technique! Thanks for your continued support, I hope you enjoy the video and please check out my other videos!
Original Video (Tarja): • Nightwish - Song of My...
Original Video (Floor): • NIGHTWISH - Ever Dream...
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It's amazing how the Floor era Nightwish just makes you smile, even before they started the song. That is charisma.
I think this is what a lot of people don't get. It's not that Tarja was bad, she was great... not good- GREAT. That said, Floor is a Goddess. She's just on another plane of existence. It's almost like comparing Usain Bolt to a Cheetah. It's just not fair. I think all the time how lucky we all are that Tuomas and Floor found their way to each other, and we get to be the benefactors of that by-chance pairing...
And Marko and Floor were made for each other!
I think you got it backward. Actually in this song Floor looks like she is giving all she has and at some point it even sounds "too much". Tarja is singing a song written for her, she is at home, she sings super high effortlessly. What makes Floor's version better (in my opinion) is the passion she burns and the way she always knows how to sing it like it's her song. Overall, Floor has a much wider range of different styles and voices, while Tarja IS a Cheetah in her own category (lyric/operatic singing).
Never good to compare but it's done. So here we go. I'm not sure but when Tuomas put his face in his hands at the beginning might just be because he and the rest of the band knew that this was Tarja's last concert with Nightwish. The thing is that Tarja didn't know that. Tuomas and Tarja were childhood friends so it was a really hard moment for him.
Oh, of course. Let's all feel pity for the responsible of Tarja's shameful dismissal. A hard moment for him xD
@@rottenkreature1041 Whatever
@@rottenkreature1041 What.. She was going to leave anyway? Why waste the time and energy on someone who doesn't want to be there?
@@rottenkreature1041 Yeah, well you've picked an appropiate handle.
Why is it never good to compare? That’s just human nature you’re trying to deny there. Everyone has their favorite band/singer/song which is by comparison to all other bands/singers/songs.
I’d agree with you that it’s never good to trash anyone’s art, as it’s just that-art... but that’s not what he did here. It’s not what most Nightwish fans do. Tarja is a scoop of vanilla ice cream, which is wonderful... but Floor is the whole sundae with vanilla ice cream, bananas, nuts, sprinkles, whipped cream, and hot fudge! Lol.
They are both great, but the power and energy in the Wacken version really does it for me. Maybe it's the mix but it also feels like Marko is not holding back on his belts on the Wacken version either.
I have the utmost respect for both Tarja and Anette. They are honestly both fantastic singers. Floor Jansen, on the other hand. . . she is just a powerful force that touches the soul. I am a singer myself, and she blows me away. Her technique is as flawless as a human can be while carrying emotion that is unbelievable. I am a grown man, and she has made me cry probably a dozen times. I will never figure out how she does it.
*tries very hard not to look at the comments*
So now that we've established that Marko is the safest answer to 'who is the superior Nightwish vocalist' - Bryan, seriously, you need to appease the masses and react to something like "High Hopes".
Also, if there ever is a day I'm not moved by that moment of Tuomas' vulnerability in the End of an Era show, please check my pulse because I'm probably dead.
So Marko is actually the best singer in Nightwish? 👨🚀
Always has been 👨🚀 🔫👨🚀
@@justdave9610 Been saying it all along
Nightwish army reporting from Athens 🇬🇷
I'm really enjoying your reactions, man. And, yes, you are absolutely right. There are...mm..medium singers, there are really good singers (including Tarja) and there is FLOOR! The one and only Floor. How can anyone Not be in love with her voice, her presence on stage. She absolutely dominates anyone watching her performances.
PS, Jukka is really on fire 🔥 during the entire song, especially on that amazing last minute. What a drummer! We really miss him!
Floor😍😍😍😍
An onslaught of Belting Power of the Valkyrie Goddess of Metal. She is unbelievable, so much power, clarity of voice in an open air festival. Hail Nightwish
Tarja for me.Unique and so emotional
Floor not being Unique and emotional? I saw a lot of people cry during her performance :) Tarja is great, but singing the whole repertoire full opera, gives it a feeling of one big voice wave. To be honest, Floor is in my opinion even a better opera singer (you can find her singing operaa aria;s on you tube) Something magical about her voice. Tarja sounds much better these days and I love her solo albums. But for Nightwish I think Floor is a blessing. They could not have made human nature with Tarja, sorry.
@@monicacarolina6480 why why why why don't let someone have her/his opinion? Why???
everyone compares and so do I.
I think its normal to compare. You just said who you prefer with this number and that's Floor. I agree with that. ♣
Forget about a Floorgasm. Looks like she gave you the Floorgiggles 😄 Tarja was good, but Floor is practically a superhero. She even looks indestructible.
Floorgasm
Thank you for this reaction. You express exactly how I feel about this.
In Tarja's version, Marco measures himself because he doesn't want to overwhelm the sound ... With Floor they both can belt together at full power and it's amazing to see.
Marco never had to measure himself with Tarja. Tuomas specifically looked for a Male singer who had the voice powerful enough to match Tarja's, so he found Marco. What are you on about?
You are absolutely right, man! Good point!
👍🤘
tarja version is far better sorry, but the emotional and powerfull voice that tarja gives to the song u cant find it in floor nor annete versions, its just not there as with tarja is.
@@gutzimmumdo4910
Yeah right ✅ we all believe you not.
@@kimberlyh.1090 Yes exactly. It's obnoxious when people want to insult Tarja that way. Sorry but no, Tarja is one of the best singers around, with a voice quality and power few have. If you can't see/hear that then you need to listen to more of her Nightwish era songs. Or listen to her solo stuff, either way.
Imagine being there and hearing that voice echoing through the open air.
I discovered Nightwish during the Tarja era and loved the songs of that era ... in small doses. Floor, with her versatility and story-telling ability and sheer skill at touching my heart over and over and over again, is the one that really made those wonderful songs come fully to life for me.
Hahaha, my reaction was just like yours then i heard Floor the first time. A big smile all over my face
come on, let's talk about emotions, energy, clear vocals, timing, voice control, versatality, stage presence, chemistry .......do we have to say more?
ja, voice fits better with the song...... Tarja, Anette, Floor is like; good, better, BEST!!!! (overtreffende trap)
Floor makes me want to grow my hair out and carry a fan in front of me at all times
...
in leather.
What;s holding you?
Pictures? Lol just kidding. I'd get that same feeling if I had hair...
The one and only Floor's Floor Fan !...
Same
Agreed. Never compare. All three NW front women have made their independent contributions to the band over the decades. They are all such unique talents that blend so well together, regardless of era. Good stuff today!
You have to hear PHANTOM OF THE OPERA with Tarja.!
We all know about the one Phantom of the Opera with Tarja.
@@mikebreden8718 So?
There is room for all three singers in my world :)
Both versions make me so happy. I am SO BLESSED to have been a Nightwish fan all these years.
Yes, I totally agree with you.
Floor what a woman.
Greetings from the Netherlands.
I'm 56 now from belgium btw, i loved Tarja but for me after some time it was like ok nothing new , i was less interested until Floor came in, for me that was the missing link, she was born for Nightwish it was her destany , i listen every day it became the best therapy for me after my hughe depression when my girlfriend left me last year after 8 years togehter (i lost my wife to in 2004 from cancer) i stil recover but yes Nightwish and specialy Floor saved my life until today , sometimes music is more then only ...music
Taking Lord Byron's quote (as used on the Nature side of Human. :||: Nature) with some poetic freedom:
"I love not Tarja the less, but Floor more…"
I feel Tuomas his pain so much in this song...knowing it was the last time they would perform with her (she got fired the next morning, due to different issues, everybody has different thoughts about it)
Yuka was having a HUGE migraine this night, poor guy (insominia was the reason why he could not continu with Night Wish, but he is still very involved with them as their manager)
Props for having the courage to give your honest opinion about Floor vs Tarja. Most reacters refuse to compare them, because they are too worried about trying to please both camps.
I heard this song when I was 14 and it became my favorite. Tarja's dark and powerful voice stole my heart 👑💜... I like Floor but it gives the song another feeling.
Yep! I feel sorry for people who do not know Nightwish begining. Because this band is phonomenat those days. Tuomas makes those lyrics absolutly beautiful to his muse Tarja. Tuomas makes them it going Tarjas vocals like match made in heaven, Tarjas voice like out of this world. And that emotional power those songs is absolutly everything. I watching end of era allmost everyday because in those videos u can see that, everything❤
Wacken 2013 was when Floor proved that she could move Nightwish is more directions. Toumas could now stretch his wings and write anything and she could sing it.
I couldnt agree more! 👍
In a interview someone ask floor why she never loose her breath , and her answer was " i was blessed with the lungs of a deep sea diver " .greetings from Portugal.
Nice reaction. Tarja will always be important for Nightwish but Floors performances just bring the goosebumps in waves!
Just goes to show, especially back to back, how Tarja helped kickstart the Nightwish sound and brought forth symphonic metal as a genre to the world, but how Floor has taken that sound and brought it to an entirely new level of emotion and range.
I remember reading a post about Marco mentioning that he used to hold back a bit, so he didn’t dominate the vocals, which is something he doesn’t worry about anymore.
Floor did that so effortlessly gorgeously that there is no ambiguity left about the winner.
Floorever!!! Floorless victory... Fatality!!!
in floor we trust
Others can hold her beer.
I have compared Tarja's voice to organic 70% chocolate. Which, if you're a chocoholic like me, is pretty amazing. And that moment near the beginning when Tuomas had to stop and take a few seconds--- remember, he and the guys KNEW that this was the LAST time she would perform with them. He HAD to be in pain.
Floor's version, the Wacken 13....it was my FIRST NW song, the FIRST time I heard them. And I was DONE, immediately. GONE. They CUT me, I will bleed forever.
I'm in the 'love them both for different reasons' camp. Both are amazing, but to be honest, Floor has made me cry more times than my ex-wife. Tarja was a force to be reckoned with, but Floor is a force of nature...
Great reaction. All these years later, I can still dip back into a Tarja song and feel blessed by her voice, but I will say that the ones Floor has since covered I prefer to hear Floor sing, because that's what I'm used to now. Ones Floor has not done in concerts (at least that I've not heard) I still enjoy in their original form. That's also true with Anette. But when Floor takes a song, she owns it forever.
There are a lot of songs where I've grown fond of Floor's version, but...
No amount of coping will ever get me to prefer Floor's version of Deep Silent Complete or The Siren over Tarja's. Just not gonna happen.
The same goes with Anette for Amaranth and a couple of the Imaginaerum songs (namely Storytime.)
There are just a couple of songs uniquely suited for a specific's singer's style.
after the bridge,Jukka opens up the 50 caliber machine guns,energy to awesome.
You hear Tarja and it's like wow, she is amazing, and she is at what she does. She has a tremendous operatic voice style. Then you hear Floor's version and it's like OMG unbelievable. Floor's voice is just so versatile, I think she can sing absolutely anything and make it song good. Then if you watch her personal TH-cam channel she is the most humble person. She is just really awesome.
When you watch videos like this you see how consistent Emppu (the guitarist) is, his solo was exactly the same in 2005 and 2013 :)
I love both singers. Both are so incredible.. i got into NW in 2004 with Tarja, her voice attracted me . So yes, she holds a spot in my heart. But NW is Floor now. Tarja is great solo. Try Into the sun. Ive never understood the whos better argument. I like Ever Dream with both singers. I just get more emotion with Floor. I get a magical feel with Tarja. But i do like Tarja on this. Both are great. :) Tarja is best on Sleeping Sun, and Phantom.
Floor has not done Phantom with Nightwish. I do think she manage to go higher than Tarja on the version with Henk though. Would love a version with Marco
Tarja sings the song, Floor lets you feel the song!
*giggling* i HaVe wOrDs i PrOmiSe
Go ahead and compare away my good sir, it would be weird not to have a preference.
This is my new favorite Everdream react
Floor. The queen....and The drummer.......wow....
Imagine how much money Nightwish saves because of corona from Emppus guitar picks.
THIS. If I could ask their roadies one thing, it would be: how many picks does Emppu have allotted for one show? XD
@@MissIssay Must be one truck at least. :)
That made me laugh out loud. Woke up the cat lol
@@MissIssay Imagine all the money he is saving. Probably a shitload.
I don't like all the fuss about comparisons. It's perfectly natural and you are entitled to give your opinion. That is what we are here for after all. You were complimentary about both, what's the issue with having a preference. I love them both depending on the song. But Floor is more versatile. That's a fact. 😁👍
Well said
Tarja version forever
Great reaction!! Good job Bryan!! more this kind stuff!
Agreed.
My personal preferences of these 12 songs
Floor: Ever Dream, Ghost Love Score, Song of Myself, Storytime, Romanticide, Wish I Had an Angel
Tarja: Sleeping Sun, End of All Hope, Kuolema Tekee Taiteilijan, The Siren, Wishmaster, Dark Chest of Wonders
Dark chest and sleeping sun are the two that floor just sounds wrong singing.
Floor can sing anything she wants, but there are a few songs that were written for Tarja and nobody, not even Floor can match her. Ever Dream, Slaying The Dreamer, Sleeping Sun are Tarja songs. Specially in this one Floors sounds pretty much gritty.
The emotion that Floor sings with entice a reaction that Tarja couldnt.
in all music and even movies the classic ones ,always the best , The golden era
Well, being a fan since Tarja's days, I prefer her version. Obviously, I like Floor's as well, but it's too "screamed" for me.
Agree
They are both really talented singers with uniqe voices! Floor is definitely more versatile, but Tarja holds a place in my heart because she was the singer of Nightwish when I found them.
The difference in the concert goers tells the whole story! Floor was brand new to NW, jumped right in, looks like she has been there forever. Don’t feel bad, I feel the same way. Floor did a TV show called Beste Zangers, 2019, you might want to review her versions of the likes of Shallow, & Phantom of the Opera, plus others. I like your reviews, I guess because you are as delighted with Foot as I am.
Floor is unbelivable. This voice. Omfg
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Do this with slaying the dreamer, the siren or wishmaster
I love Floor, but I think all of those goes for Tarja by clear margin.
Why?
its fun
Oh, love those songs (when sung by Floor).
I love Tarja, but what Floor does is just not fair. She is amazing.
Floor does it very well, and brings the power, but I love the original versions too (and I'm a fairly new fan myself). There's plenty of room to love both. I listen mostly to the studio albums, I basically only watch or listen to live when I watch these reactions, and I've seen so many reactions I never feel a need to listen to them on my own, lol. So I have a affinity for the original versions and the original voice on them. So many feel like you have to live only in the present and there's no room to enjoy anything that came before, or anything from their studio albums for that matter. Reactors follow the comments and rarely dig much deeper than Wacken and a few other more recent live shows. For me its the music, who's singing is secondary.
You want to see young, try anything from "From Wishes to Eternity".
Couldn't dissagree more..... I find the albums, over-produced, and bloated..... I pretty much only listen to live nightwish. Unles a new album comes out....... floor is just better..... although I have no idea how they will perform this new album live, as it's extremely difficult vocally.
Its not fair to compare..Floor is just super special!!💞 ask Lady Gaga wink wink!!
Surprised you don't have the go-to Floor reaction with Ghost love score ^^
Was a fan of nightwish before she joined but after...another level. She has so much range / variation to her voice.
If you want a good laugh you should listen to their 2nd singer Annette attempting to sing this! 😂
Oh, that's just cruel. I wish I didn't agree, 'cause now I'm cruel too.
drummer is the best
Yup.....
Listen to hear before nightwish! 😲
She keeps developing!
Revamp
After forever
BTW within temptation, Ayreon and Epica are EPIC as well 😉
Tarja... Diosaaa!
Tarja is very good but for me, Floor is the next level. Perhaps because her technic deserve emotions ? Her tone hit every time something in my soul.
I guess you know who is the drummer Chester Thompson. So take a look at this: "Chester Thompson Drum Cam - Drums, drums & More Drums (live 2004)". Magic !
When you listen to both, back to back, like you just did... the conclusion you arrived at is inescapable! Great reaction, thanks.
Exact and precise , nice reaction ! I agree with your concusions , Greetings from nwse Sweden
It doesn't matter who sang a song before, when Floor gets her vocal cords on it, she makes it hers.
If you compared the two 15 years ago Tarja would come on top. But floor did a huge improvement over the years, she worked really hard.
It has been a VERY long time since I have seen such talented people! And Floor is a 6 foot Viking goddess of song! Keep rockin’ it out! ❤️🤘🏻
Tarja was my first love.. but Floor is my strongest and everlasting love. :)
„I just love her so much. She has not even done anything and I am like - ahhh Floor“ I could not have said it better, exactly how I feel about her 😅 Just seeing her touches me every time…
Empuu playes his signature EV-1 wich is based off of the ESP Horizon And Marco playes his Warwick Vampyre 4 string bass.
For me Tarja is just a well-trained classical voice. But Floor has an inner determination carried forward by her emotions, enormous musicality and a power combined with vulnerability that for me far outshines Tarja's impersonal and vibrating voice. But fair enough if one prefers Tarja. I just do not understand that.
I said this on another reaction video, but I think Floor does a better job at picking up on the emotion of the song and adding subtle nuances to her tone to really emphasize those emotions. Whether it be vocal fry or using open operatic/classical techniques. Don't get me wrong Tarja is a phenomenal singer, but with her it's just Tarja singing full on opera with a metal band behind it. Doesn't make her a bad vocalist because I still think she's the better operatic singer, but she is limited in her stylistic choices.
Floor brought nightwish to a whole new higher level.
Loved your watching both versions of the song. I agree there are songs I prefer Tarja, even a few I like Annette, but most, admittedly, Floor steals the show. Of course the band has also matured considerably too.
Jukka, killing it as always. I love his energy. Oh yeah, Floor, Tarja and Marco were amazing as well.
Amen...no mention from the drum based review?
It's not even fair to compare anyone to Floor. If she covered any other artists songs she would blow them away too
You should watch Floor doing Lady Gaga's "Shallow" in Beste Zangers 2019.
@@veronicaue180 Do you think Lady Gaga has seen the video and thought to herself "Oh Shit!"??
Whaddya mean "if"? She does, and she does. Check 'Beste Zangers' for proof.
One of my favorites from this show. Floorgasm
Great stuff dude :)
Floor's voice flows so effortlessly. She's consistent. You always know she's going to deliver. No need to worry. That's not the case with all singers, especially live. And her stage charisma!
I think its always dangerous to compare. The reality is most like the singer they discovered Nightwish under. I came to be a nightwish fan because of the wacken concert so Floor was the singer and it was sometime before I ever heard the other two sing. If I had heard Tarja first I think I would have had loyalty to the original. I prefer Floor because thats who I started with. There is no doubt Tarja was a great singer, and to be fair Annette wasn't as bad as some will tell you, but to me Floor is just that extra special.
Floor is another level🤘🤩
Yes, lower level. 😉
Floor. No contest. Her voice and stage presence are just spot on for Nightwish.
Agreed. Tarja has two singing styles whereas with Floor we've lost count somewhere around 20. And IMO, Tarja tried too hard to have the stage presence. Floor has it naturally.
@@janitor6669 Agree 100%! Tarja seems to have her lane and doesn't veer from it. I found Nightwish back in the days she was still with the band and I walked away because I was just tired of everything sounding the same. Not saying she isn't incredibly talented, just that I don't enjoy listening to an operatic style ... has always sounded "stuffy" to me. Floor just adapts to the song, doing what is needed to elevate it where Tuomas envisioned it. The entire bands sounds as though the chains were taken off when Floor started singing. My opinion, and I'm certainly not disparaging anybody else's - each all have our taste and appreciate what sounds best to our ear ... and we all have different ears. Thank goodness.
@@janitor6669 hahahahaha bullshit
I agree, enough said. 🤘🔥
Music writer Tuomas Holopainen keyboard mannen goes feelings so deep…
Floor gives soooo much more power 👩🏻🎤❤️❤️
but also more fragile vocals...she is just amazing
Highly recommend Dark Chest of Wonders.. it's the Wacken show opener.. 1000 MPH full epicness
This might be the only Nightwish song that all 3 of the singers did a good job with. The song has a bit of a pop feel and Anette could do a damn good job too!
The vocal maturity of Floor is immense compared to Tarja in these clips.
Vocals aside, I think it's interesting to note how the arrangement of the song itself has evolved over the years--in ways that, I think are overwhelmingly for the better. The example that comes immediately to mind is the very beginning, where in the Wacken version (and most likely at some point earlier) Tuomas began shifting to a higher octave on the piano in the second verse--such a tiny change, but it does so much for the song, and there are other similar examples.