It pumps, but it's probably not putting out much more than 500 gpm or so. If you're using 2 1/2" lines for supply lines, you've got water supply issues.
@@kennethsrensen7706 There's ZERO point in upgrading a pump in that engine. You'd have to upgrade the engine and entire drive train. That chassis isn't big enough either.
@@ffjsb Yeah I guess you are right about that model of engine. So its nice to see it still have some use. at least it can supplly some small hoselines ( not those more powerfull ) so even if its just smaller it all sum up in the overall work. a few handlines can do something even if not as high preasure as in the newer ones. So still its extra water even not high preasure. : )
Big fire 🔥 = big water, MASTER STREAM, deck gun? Please don’t get me wrong you guys do an excellent job and please be safe, fully involved building gotta knock that bad bay quick and hard. Peace
Lots of chiefs and not too many Indians here , blokes all standing around waiting for someone to give the word to get the fire out. Water supply problems ?
It's like a game of chicken. Who's going to chicken out first and put water on the fire. It's the same in almost every US firefighting video. Trucks roll and then spend ten minute knitting a sweater with the hoses before someone thinks maybe we should put water on the fire! Very frustrating to those of us who took pride in getting the wet stuff on the hot stuff within seconds of arriving! Shocking appliance positioning. It's like Fred Karno's Circusl
Sorry fellows but must give thumbs up on putting fire out but two down on tactics. First is ladder to close to fire, with a limited supply why use as a elevated master stream. You know that aerial can suck you tank empty within a minute. The building is done for and 3 men on the ladder. Cut your hand lines back to minimum water and surround and drown. Ive responded in a red truck like green with 500 gallons to the county using a booster reel two with of them. Im pretty sure a paint job was needed.
umm why bother with the ladder ? By the time you guys got done running around like lost puppies the fire was darn near out. Hose lines deployment training needed, fire suppression training is needed. Sure the fire is out, but coulda been done with half the manpower and half the time with proper equipment placement. Fire fighting isn't call all cars. Simple building like that gimme one engine and one ladder or tower truck and lemme kick the pig
I like the smokey bear on the green ford. They look like they were over the river/brook Why wasn't one enigne set up on the other side for drafting creating a frie line. The Ladder truck could have not been in a worse spot. Pulled past or before then extend for safety. If it can pump you probably couldn't touch the handles.
Lotsa' running around, tugging empty hose lines, yapping like confused hounds who don't see the treed wombat above them--these clowns really blew it. So, where's the chief?Why bother showing-up?
@@isaiahhart4283 I agree, don't call someone who is trying to do the right thing a "clown." However, I do have a problem with it being acceptable to hold volunteers to a lesser standard of performance because they are, after all, "only volunteers." Granted, volunteer fire departments have a lot of problems ranging from money to manpower, that are legitimate factors beyond the control of a volunteer fire department that do affect the level of service they can provide. But the fact the are "only volunteers" is never an acceptable excuse for failing to competently provide the level of service they are capable of providing. Capability is the level of service that can be provided with the resources available. Competence is the level of expertise demonstrated in the use of the resources available. Speaking as a thirty year plus firefighter / EMT in a volunteer department, I see way too many examples only being volunteers is used as an excuse for poor leadership and training. You've what I'm talking about. Brand new rigs with price tags approaching a million dollars or more pulling up on the scene with full crews (sometimes 6 or more), and not a single one including the officer prepared to fight fire when they step of the rig; taking more than five minutes to get water flowing. And having way too many chiefs standing around conferring with seemingly no one in charge. Volunteers could and should be expected to be as professional as a career firefighter and should expect nothing accept nothing less from; themselves, their peers, their leaders and the public. Earn the credit you deserve for being a volunteer, don't simply expect it.
@@isaiahhart4283 If the boot fits--huh? The "best and the bravest" are too often the worst and the dumbest, but can they be slammed for being less that they should be? YOU BETCHA! There's nothing sacred about a bunch o' clowns who have no business riding a red truck--it's always the same for judging public-service Holy Cows--"Hey! Dees are good boys--let's see you do it!" I have done it. Incompetents get people killed.
Quit with all the zooming and changing angles. All the different shots makes all this unwatchable. Just give us a nice wide shot showing all the action and LEAVE IT!!!!!
That green Ford looks like a classic, leaning toward antique! But those older trucks sure could move water!
Million dollar, 100' ladder truck, twenty feet in front of the building that is twenty five feet high burning away...No problem here Chief.
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I love the green Ford. I can't believe it still pumped water. Good job guys. Not much you can do at this point of the fire.
It pumps, but it's probably not putting out much more than 500 gpm or so. If you're using 2 1/2" lines for supply lines, you've got water supply issues.
@@ffjsb maybe pumps is upgraded. I have seen similary with upgraded pumps.
@@kennethsrensen7706 There's ZERO point in upgrading a pump in that engine. You'd have to upgrade the engine and entire drive train. That chassis isn't big enough either.
@@ffjsb Yeah I guess you are right about that model of engine.
So its nice to see it still have some use.
at least it can supplly some small hoselines
( not those more powerfull ) so even if its
just smaller it all sum up in the overall work.
a few handlines can do something even if not as high preasure as in the newer ones.
So still its extra water even not high preasure. : )
Ahhh man, I love the green truck. Still running, and in service... awesome!
HOW TO: Toast a ladder truck in less than 10 minutes !!
adds flavor..
@@Andy-je3el LMAO.....
Total waste of time it being there.
Big fire 🔥 = big water, MASTER STREAM, deck gun? Please don’t get me wrong you guys do an excellent job and please be safe, fully involved building gotta knock that bad bay quick and hard. Peace
Lots of chiefs and not too many Indians here , blokes all standing around waiting for someone to give the word to get the fire out. Water supply problems ?
B.j Mcwhattabloke correct
L-2 may need some new paint & gold leaf!!! 😂
The little fire alarm that could. That thing kept sounding even when the building was fully engulfed.. 😆
sounded like an SCBA going off entire time
Joshua Collins I’m wondering if it was a nearby building that has detectors going off.
@Sparkywfd great footage as always! I hope no one was hurt in anyway...
Fine old green ford😊
Keystone Cops. Haha. Geez. It’s a vacant old building with no real exposures. Take a breath and relax.
Looks like a little too late for a ladder truck 🤔
To see older engines working front line with the new engines is awesome
what a Charlie Foxtrot! keep pulling lines...that will help the water problem!
charge the damn lines and put water on it, just dump the tank on it, cool it off geez
Could they get L-2 a little closer to the fire ????
Collapse zone? Meh it won't fall. Creating an exposure to the truck? Naw... we'll put it out. 🤪
Was thinking the same thing they wanted a new paint job
@@Brian13549 Now they can go red on the bottom and black on top! Love CFD's colors!
These guys don't get a lot o practice. Sleepy town. But I do agree with the ideaa that woulda been cheepr to just let it go.
Has anybody found the water. We need tyo practice laying line more.
I think they are just starting to drill the WELL!
It's like a game of chicken. Who's going to chicken out first and put water on the fire. It's the same in almost every US firefighting video. Trucks roll and then spend ten minute knitting a sweater with the hoses before someone thinks maybe we should put water on the fire! Very frustrating to those of us who took pride in getting the wet stuff on the hot stuff within seconds of arriving! Shocking appliance positioning. It's like Fred Karno's Circusl
Driver of ladder truck should be fired and chief didn't have it moved only reason is spend another million to get a new one it'll happen one day
Long, long wait for water. Must have been damage to the ladder truck.
Long wait for water - ladder wasn’t damaged
That ladder truck was way too close to the flames.
What a cluster f$&k
Love it when an older conventual pumper supplies water to a newer custom rig
Love the older trucks!
Great hose organization.
Sorry fellows but must give thumbs up on putting fire out but two down on tactics. First is ladder to close to fire, with a limited supply why use as a elevated master stream. You know that aerial can suck you tank empty within a minute. The building is done for and 3 men on the ladder. Cut your hand lines back to minimum water and surround and drown. Ive responded in a red truck like green with 500 gallons to the county using a booster reel two with of them. Im pretty sure a paint job was needed.
Great Video Footage!
Keep up the great work
Great job.
The fireman were ready waiting on water and once they got it, game over 💪
The old fire engine showed up 😍
Man this takes me back 👍
umm why bother with the ladder ? By the time you guys got done running around like lost puppies the fire was darn near out. Hose lines deployment training needed, fire suppression training is needed. Sure the fire is out, but coulda been done with half the manpower and half the time with proper equipment placement. Fire fighting isn't call all cars. Simple building like that gimme one engine and one ladder or tower truck and lemme kick the pig
I like the smokey bear on the green ford. They look like they were over the river/brook Why wasn't one enigne set up on the other side for drafting creating a frie line. The Ladder truck could have not been in a worse spot. Pulled past or before then extend for safety. If it can pump you probably couldn't touch the handles.
funny shit
Do these department get money from TH-cam to make these videos? This is bad.
Green forestry truck ! Is that Eddy the Mayor, from forestry ?
Will someone PLEASE get some water on the fire.....
At 8:26 love the two men on the line. Getting water on the fire and being cool about doing it. 👍👍👍
Burn up that ladder truck. Where are the handlines for protection?
Looking like a waste of water and manpower.
Great video though.
They let that ladder get baked on the fire side
Can always use one more hose. Tower going up fire almost out.A few of these guys need to be on weight control.
That's the problem with VFD's, you take who you can get. If you can work smart and not hard, it's not that much of a problem.
Have they not heard of Deck Guns or Blitz nozzles??
Guess not
ladder truck lost some paint that day
Truck very close
Not your best effort was it?
Are you freakin serious?
A shiny, new, quarter to whoever will reach over and turn off that PASS device!
That's not a pass device it's the fire alarm system from the building
I think that was the fire alarm for the building
@@Andy-je3el It's a edwards fire alarm system, Pass devices are more chirpier than that tone.
@@amtraktraveler9118 I couldn't have told you the name of the system but I already said it was the building alarm
What amazed me was that even with that amount of fire the damn fire alarm was still going.....love American made technology!!!
is it still burning?
KEYSTONE
What a ripper. Thank you
They should had let it burn to the ground Would of saved$$ on clean up.
GAWD! Any chance ya'll might find an education some day?
@ross beck Gawd, you're a moron. Play with your toes or something.
Lotsa' running around, tugging empty hose lines, yapping like confused hounds who don't see the treed wombat above them--these clowns really blew it. So, where's the chief?Why bother showing-up?
@@isaiahhart4283 I agree, don't call someone who is trying to do the right thing a "clown." However, I do have a problem with it being acceptable to hold volunteers to a lesser standard of performance because they are, after all, "only volunteers." Granted, volunteer fire departments have a lot of problems ranging from money to manpower, that are legitimate factors beyond the control of a volunteer fire department that do affect the level of service they can provide. But the fact the are "only volunteers" is never an acceptable excuse for failing to competently provide the level of service they are capable of providing. Capability is the level of service that can be provided with the resources available. Competence is the level of expertise demonstrated in the use of the resources available. Speaking as a thirty year plus firefighter / EMT in a volunteer department, I see way too many examples only being volunteers is used as an excuse for poor leadership and training. You've what I'm talking about. Brand new rigs with price tags approaching a million dollars or more pulling up on the scene with full crews (sometimes 6 or more), and not a single one including the officer prepared to fight fire when they step of the rig; taking more than five minutes to get water flowing. And having way too many chiefs standing around conferring with seemingly no one in charge. Volunteers could and should be expected to be as professional as a career firefighter and should expect nothing accept nothing less from; themselves, their peers, their leaders and the public. Earn the credit you deserve for being a volunteer, don't simply expect it.
@@isaiahhart4283 If the boot fits--huh?
The "best and the bravest" are too often the worst and the dumbest, but can they be slammed for being less that they should be? YOU BETCHA! There's nothing sacred about a bunch o' clowns who have no business riding a red truck--it's always the same for judging public-service Holy Cows--"Hey! Dees are good boys--let's see you do it!"
I have done it. Incompetents get people
killed.
Rubbish.
@@firered30013 very well put i agree with that, also thank you for your service.
Quit with all the zooming and changing angles. All the different shots makes all this unwatchable. Just give us a nice wide shot showing all the action and LEAVE IT!!!!!
parked so close you're in the collapse zone of a 1 story building