Double fatal fire strikes Uxbridge, Ma apartment building, fully involved upon arrival (2012)
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- A young mother and her 6 y/o child were found deceased in this late evening apartment building fire. The call came in around 11pm and was fully involved when the first firefighters arrived. There are no hydrants in the area so tankers and dump tanks had to be utilized to supply water to put out the fire.
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Prayers for the Mother and her child. No Hydrants and apartment building fully involved when firefighters arrived it is best to just do a control burn where no one gets hurt.
So sorry to hear about this, May they Rest In Peace, Tragic this is.
For all the TH-cam firefighters, you wouldn't use the deck gun based on water availability (which was limited). You'll dump a tank in seconds and with that size of fire, will have accomplished nothing except wasting water. Welcome to rural firefighting, where water supply is a creek if you're lucky, most hydrants are shit and can barely supply 1 truck and you have about 15 head working a fire once again if you're lucky.Tankers and drop tanks are your only chance to put this size of fire out. Let's face it, that house was not survivable upon arrival and entry would have been suicide. I'm in a small rural fire department so I know the challenges. We train harder because of our small volume of calls (average 120/yr) and many of us have been through a fire academy. If you're not in a local volunteer fire department or know jack Squat about the challenges we face, your opinion means nothing so join up or shut up. 30 yrs on the job.
Fire Guy I agree with you. I’m a volunteer and in some parts of our first due area there are no hydrants and we have to go to tanker ops. Also before any TH-cam firefighters start bashing the volunteers ask yourselves some questions. How advanced was the fire before it was reported? Is this a rescue or a body recovery? What are the resources as far as manpower? Where is the nearest water source? What about weather conditions?
Need to Place Fire Hydrants in All Cities and towns ' Especially When Planning A New Development or Upgrading An Existing ' Taxes Are Being Paid for This Necessity
@@michaelboccino5251 Hydrants are only as good as the water source supplying them. Other limitations are pipe size to the water supply and location. We have some big waterfront housing developments with mega houses (excess of 2500sq ft, sitting 15 ft off the ground) and our hydrants are rated from 0-499 gpm....basically pick a number on the lower side of 300gpm and that's it! That's not enough to supply one working engine much less a master stream. People think that going to the next Hydrant up will help make up the difference...but wait they're on the same main line feeding it soooooo yeah anything you think you gained, the other Hydrant loses out. We depend a lot on tanker shuttles from drafting operations. Oh yeah I forgot to mention...tax dollars paid for the crappy water.
@@fireguy284 Well We Need New Infrastructure Now '
On a fire like this you just surround and drown, No point in putting firefighters lifes at risk when the house was obviously not able to be entered.
Wow. So sad.
That place is long gone!
Prayers are with the family and the firefighters. Its not easy to deal with the loss of life.
That's so sad, omg horrific. RIP to mama and child. 🙎🙇😇😇
So sad for the loss of lives!
This is a real tragedy. A Mother who will not see her child grow to Adulthood and a 6-year-old who was never given the chance to make this world a better place.
It’s so sad 😞
So sad 😭
So sad 😢
So Sad for the Loss of Life '
Sadly this fire was beyond saving much on arrival. My experience tells me when faced with this situation use available tank water to stop the spread of exterior ground fire then once there is sufficient water supply from tanker shuttle or firefighters can extinguish what is left.
It looked some foam or was that just suds. Sad. With the ladder truck in an engine could back down and pull off supply hose with forward lay. Think it would save time.
This happened to the apartment complex I had just vacated....
Smart move, literally
When a fire dept comes to a fully involved fire where do they start first to apply water?
@Bill Williams LOL, but seriously, aim at bottom, top or procedurally makes no difference.
This is a really good question, imO. I don't know the answer, but its interresting. I hope someone answer this in a good way. Not this trolling crap. 😅
When you arrive at a structure that’s fully involved you primary want to limit the fire extension and radiant heat damage to neighboring structures, it will depend on the availability to water. If you have an adequate water supply you will ‘surround and drown’, which means dumping water on it from all sides, but big fire usually requires big water. As to where you direct your master stream it’s best practice to try and hit the base of the fire, hitting the tops of the flames just produces steam, your main aim is to remove one element of the fire tetrahedron, the heat part, the fuel part, the oxygen part or the chemical reaction part. In a fire like this you’re really inly able to remove the heat/chemical reaction part, by cooling the fuel part. Hope this helps explain the thought process behind fire fighting.
@@Jimmythefish577 Thanks for the great explanation. Will watch future videos with a better understanding of what the brave firefighters do. They don't get enough credit and thanks.
Helen....I had the same question and am happy it was answered so thoroughly. There is so much more to fighting a fire than most of us realize.
you can not fight a fire of that size with out tanker support
A 1 3/4 line would have protected the exposure ?!
They need water to do anything, and for that they needed tankers which is why they were waiting
Is there an issue with water for this department?
The description said there were no hydrants. Depended on multiple tankers to transport water to the scene. Tankers dump water into what looks like an above ground pool and then go get more water.
didn't matter, when you show up at 11pm and the fire is burning like that, I don't care if you had 20 hydrants lined up in a row, there was nothing stopping this fire until it ran out of fuel. Fought a lumber yard fire 33 years ago this July in Westerly RI and the only thing that stopped that fire, it ran out of stuff to burn and we had hydrants plenty of trucks and man power
How many peoples loose her/his home? Why they life in the woods into wood houses without springler but not have a lake, river, water pool in near?
RIP young family 😢😭
I hope while waiting for water they at least attempted a search of the house. Condolences to the family.
Brother chances are this was exactly what they came upon. We don't go in without a charged line. We are trained to know what types of situations would allow for a tenable or survivable environment, unfortunately for these poor souls, it was not the case. Otherwise they'd definitely do whatever they could to save them.
It says in the description it was fully involved. You can’t go in that.
Unless you’re them tv hero’s on that ridiculous show Chicago Fire lol
Bill Williams and the most helpless victims ever along with the stupidest bystanders ever. House is on fire in broad daylight and everyone is just waiting in the house for our hero’s to come save them and everyone outside is just hanging out waiting brainlessly for the fire department to get the people out. I’m no fire fighter. Just a retired truck driver but I know %99 of the time some good samaritans will pop up and help. Dumb show lol! I couldn’t get five minutes into Lonestar 911. That’s an even stupider show. Rescue Me was a better series. Wish they did more like that.
@@amandaforeman7441 You need a line for a primary?
Why did they allow that type of building to even be built in an area without a water supply?
Apparently you have never been outside of a city. Most houses outside of a city or town usually do not have fire hydrants. The houses have well water and septic tanks.
beckytwister01 I live in the country but don’t see why multiple family buildings are allowed in places with little fire protection and lack of adequate water supply. Lax building codes and lightweight construction is a disaster waiting to happen.
You can easily tell that building is pretty old
David Glaum It May not have been multi family when it was built. It was probably converted at some point. That must not have had working smoke alarms and definitely no sprinkler system. Counties can be pretty lax on building codes. I live in an unincorporated part of what is especially and urban area in Harris County, Texas (Houston). Almost all cities have regulations on fireworks. Not the county. I worry every New Years Eve, July 4th, Labor Day, Memorial Day, and what seems like just random times that a residence will be set on fire. Living right at the very edge of the city limits can be just as bad.
PS Just found an article on the fire. It was built in the 18th century and other occupants who got out said the alarms were sounding. So my assumptions were off on some things and right on others.
www.metrowestdailynews.com/article/20120905/NEWS/309059919
enid0mom Thank you for the information.
IAFF Local 4149 (Professional FFs of Massachusetts District 7)
Wow very sad.! Those poor boys probably melted their suits with that
No fans for this one boys?
I realize that they weren't going to knock down the fire with just tank water, but not laying a supply line and doing NOTHING is INEXCUSABLE. It was clearly obvious that they should've laid a supply line up the drive, and used the deck gun or at least a 2 1/2" line and dumped the tank.
How do you know they didn’t
There were no fire hydrants, so laying a supply line would do nothing.
James Simmonds I was talking about dumping the tank and whatever else he said. Deck gun and 2 1/2
Bro, it looks like they did a forward lay to me, in which case they wouldn't stretch down the drive, esp with no hydrant. Either way, if you're active and in the service you know you can't judge unless you're on scene!
@@jamessimmonds3773 Yes exactly. I don't know what makes people think they can firefight from the computer. We (actual fire service) all know that you can't judge a scene that you ain't on.
Is this a real fire department ?
Eric Freeman obviously, wtf?
Very slow 2 react