Me: *checks various second hand and used gear sites* Also me: *Sees barely any listings for 40 series cards and those that do want near full retail value* Me again: *goes back to ignoring gpu's till next gen*
yup, picking up a used 4080/super would've been good. But none of them are anywhere near a panic selling prices, so just waiting to see if amd's card isnt complete crap and badly priced. If not yeah my 30 series card is going to be run into the ground.
Nvidia has stopped producing the 4xxx series since november I thnk it was. So the stock will dry out. But local shops in Norway have increased prices of the 4090 etc. Used prices have also increased. But I think maybe we will see 5080 perform about 10% better vs 4080 Super (without fake frames), so with less VRAM than 4090, I think 5080 may be a bit of a disappointment due to pricing and the fact that 4090 may be a better card for productivity, AI and real gaming without fake frames. Of course one can say they like fake frames, but I dont see the reason to use fake frames on the highend cards. You will get a theoretical FPS boost, but increase the input lag a lot! Also more artifacts. I can see the tech beeing usefull for laptops etc where you cant afford to have a super high power consumption due to battery, cooler constraint etc.
I jumped on TiSuper. Sweet spot. Seems like with 50 series (other than the framegen made for 240hz monitors) the performance of my GPU may have dropped to about $700 from $800. What an insane uplift to price performance lol
@@OlavAlexanderMjeldeI would use the 2x frame Gen but the new cyberpunk update makes the game lock to 60 in my vrr 144hz monitor so I turned it off until that is resolved. I enjoy the smoothing effect and really makes pathtracing viable on 4k with my GPU. The new transformer models so very impressive for the few hours I played last night. It is probably the biggest update I have seen to dlss... Idk why Nvidia didn't hold it to 50 series lol can we actually use the words Generous Jensen? 😂😂😂
People are posting their 4090's here in Sydney for 3k or more but honestly I am going to put mine up for 2k if I can get a 5090, as I think this is a more realistic price.
@@MaTtRoSiTyyou’re a rare, honourable, gem sir after seeing the 5090 semi flop i’m considering a used 4090 and selling my 4080 for a grand but used prices are more than original retail lol
@@MaTtRoSiTy in Norway they are beeing sold around 19.000 NOK ( 2638 AUD ). If I were to list mine I think I would put it out at ~2100 AUD / 15.000 NOK. The 5090 FE and 5090 TUF from Asus seems to be the cheapest ones at first, at 28500 NOK ( 4025 AUD ). I think the 5080 might disappoint, I imagine it will perform maybe 5-10% better in rasterization vs 4080 Super. So the 5080 at rasterization might be worse than 4090, then also the 5080 has less VRAM so I imagine it most likely also will be worse for AI. But of course we will see, when 5080 drops.
I cannot for the life of me understand people who are that ready to throw away money to upgrade only last gen hardware. The money spent must be crazy. For marginal gains too.
Yeah your lowly 3060 is heaven on earth. LOL. A 4090 is at least 3 times faster, how do you even compare these. Besides, a couple a years from now your 3060 will be completely obsolete.
I grabbed a 4070Ti Super for a friends new build just over a week ago. He was using a loaner card from me on a fantastic all new parts system. He wanted to get 50 series and just plug and play. Huge selling point for the older gen is they basically just plug and play. Every new launch and you just bought your way into Beta 101.
Same over here in the old world. People are kinda bonkers. Or maybe we're only seeing those muppets asking insane prices and the "good deals" are sniped by bots instantly? Who knows :(
Yeah i am seeing the odd ball 4090 for around 1k. But typically close to 1500+. Basically if you find a nonmined card for 1k you should jump on it. Few i saw on ebay for 1k are suspicious for various reasons though...from shipping from China to someone with multiple indicating it was a mining card or workhorse
Except for one hot stuff build I did with X58 in 2008 (and a followup slightly lesser version of it in 2009 because Amazon double shipped half the order) I have always been a few generations behind on hardware.
I literally listen to the terran theme when I go out sometimes, this time I opened this video and I thought that because of some bug my music was overlapping with the video 😂
I think I saw a lot more cards (4090 and 4080 7900xtx ) before the embargo was lifted for reviews. Now people realized that a 15 to 20 percent uplift at 4k doesn't warrant a 2 thousand dollar upgrade.
Does nobody learn from past mistakes anymore?! I vividly remember when people sold their RTX2000 cards for cheap in 2020 and had to watch Scalpers buy all of the few new 30 series cards.
@ dosent matter 9800x3d was unavaailable for months and now and then u get in stock last time i saw it was 600 msrp is 480 50 series will be sold out for the 1st few months better get in line or have ur bots ready
I would seriously avoid Gigabyte GPUs. I cruise Newegg quite a bit, and I see a ton of refurbished Gigabyte GPUs on there, which means they break a lot. I realize that refurbs can also be trade-ins that have been cleaned up and not repaired, but when there are quite a few of the exact same model GPU on Newegg as a refurbished, then that points to a problem
Last 3 gens I had a 2080/3080 gigabyte auros master, and a 4080 gigabyte aero oc. All great with zero issues. I wouldn6 even consider thinking they're any faultier than any other brand
Panic selling 4000 series cards that are pretty much as fast at the same power draw as the 5000 series is. The 5000 series is not much better then a refresh. :) AMD UDNA and 6000 series in 2026-2027 will be a node shrink and something to get excited over
I would rather buy a 4090 new right now than a 5090. At MSRP, it's a better value. A 24 gig 5080 at 1200 or 1400 would completely kill the 5090...like imagine any of these 5000 series cards with higher vram and then add 200 bucks to msrp, then tell me 5090 isn't a terrible value proposition. Who would buy 5090 if there was a 24g or 32g 5080, even if it was 1400 msrp? No one.
I don't get it though. Ngreedia will artificially shorten the supply of 50X0 cards/chips for sure. They make WAY more money in the AI bracket. The gaming cards are rather a "showcase" of sorts i reckon.
I checked US markets, no signs of panic or better deals here Plus, it would be haphazard to sell yours before you get a 50 series, not knowing for certain when you can get one They may be as easy to get as 40 series? Bit coin mining is dead so GPUs shouldn't be that difficult to obtain
That’s because the people in USA are busy dealing with a messy leader, and their huge losses of money from the leader meme coins; they don’t have extra money for upgrade to the RTX 5000.
Don't forget about those tons of non-working 4090 / 4090D "without chip and ram" sold in bulk everywhere! I know you know about those. Just a reminder ;) Take care. Thanks for sharing.
Decided to check your statement out, and well, kinda funny: The first decently priced and proper looking 4080 Super FE I found on ebay (Germany) is sold by some person who is into SFF PCs. Shows the "seldom used" GPU inside the Ncase M2 "cheese grater" xD
Across the tech media, the focus is on "what delivers the maximum performance" and very little on "What delivers sufficient performance". Users would do well to those few who focus on the latter!
I thought those fire selling 2080ti cards with Ampere launching were pretty clueless , but to see 4080s being fire sold with only slightly better hardware around the corner takes it to a whole new level 😂 I say this as someone who has owned both of those cards as well and my 4080 Super serves me well.
@@peterpain6625It's 2025, who in their right mind plays at 1440p while 4K DLSS Performance exists? At least you're not as clueless as Asmongold. That dude is talking about getting a 5090 but still playing on 1440p because 4K is "probably not worth it yet" Meanwhile all benchmarks I see is the gap between the 4090 and 5090 at 4K being the biggest, while below that it's a waste of money.
@@peterpain6625 I'm quite happy using my 4080 Super with a 4k144 display :) - might not max it out most of the time but it does well. I reckon it's going to be good at that for at least another 3-4 years , the 5080 isn't much better
@789uio6y I've seen a leak from Blender suggesting even less than that .Given that I run my 4080 Super at 360W and 2.9Ghz core/25.6Gbps memory I'm going to be very interested to see what the benchmarks will be for it 😂
Anyone selling their 4000 series cards expecting to get a 5000 series is an idiot. These idiots clearly have never been through a GPU launch. The 5090 is going to be absolutely scarce.
Even more so now that Nvidia redesigned their card for enterprise solutions. They did not spend all that money for gamers benefit. There is a huge market these days that is just below enterprise level hardware. And that card will meet it very nicely. Gamers don't need to be able to fit multiple GPU's like AI etc does.
the 50 gen doesn't look like it's worth going through the hassle of selling the old stuff, when i switched to 4k because i planned to upgrade i thought 4090 will stink in 4k but it's actually really good already, if you think about it it's kinda like a 5080ti now 20-30% more is just not worth that much money. also i would never be able to watercool a 5090, 4090 already made me reconsider if i wanted to do it because the price is just so ridiculous.
Really? I've noticed prices have gone up in the US market over these last few months, especially used. I was lucky to find my 4080 for $800 back in August
The used market where I live is delusional. Minimum price for RTX 4000 Series go for 90% of new cards pricing and the majority goes with higher prices (I can't understand how and where is the demand for this used prices), spetially 4090's. I'm waiting to buy a used 4090 or 4080 or 4070 Ti Super, but with these delusional used pricing I'd be better buying a new card with warranty and stuff.
In the EU, used 40-series are only slightly less than brand new, usually more. You can get a brand new 4080S from ComputerUniverse in EU for or slightly below MSRP (1,099 Euro). I got one for 1079 last week. 5080 MSRP is about 1,200 (if you are very lucky), so if you can't get a 5080, a new 4080S will probably give you 90%+ of the performance.
3080ti is still a decent card. Gave one to a friend with a fried 4090. He had the 4090 replaced for a while and is not putting it back in because "everything works alright" ;)
@@peterpain6625 yup, solid card for sure. Had plans to get a 5080 but I think the 3080 ti will do just fine for another year or 2 for me. I only play bfv anyway lol.
You got a great deal when you purchased that RTX 3080 for 450$ here in Norway it costs the equivalent of 700 for the cheaper versions and 800 for the expensive models. Sold my 4090 at the equivalent of 2100 au$ and I think I could have earned roughly 300 bucks more with some patience but I wanted the money in my pocket before the launch of the 5090. The 5090 FE launches here at the equivalent of 4070au$ but it will get sold out and the prices we actually have to pay for most of the AIB models is likely atleast 300 - 500 bucks more.
Can confirm a bunch of people were selling RTX 4060s and 4060 ti's for basically 350 USD, i managed to snag one for barter plus cash (traded my 2070 non super)
I just did a platform upgraded because went from the G9 ultra wide to triple g5 screens for my SIM racing setup and still wanted to play 1440 but didn't want to wait The end of January with there being no 9800 x3ds available so I end up getting a bundle deal for a new ryzen 9 7950 x3d and x670 motherboard for 750$ and then got a brand new Zotec 4080 super for $950 and then sold my 5800x3d motherboard and ram to my friend and had him get the rest of the the parts for me to build him a PC for his new Sim rig and I'm completely happy
Bry, do the multiple encoders improve performance of a single stream? I thought having multiple just made it so you could do more jobs at the same time, but I could be wrong.
Used RTX 40 series are a great option for upgrades too - like AM4 (10th/11th gen Intel CPUs tool) based systems etc. There are still relatively affordable Ryzen 5000 series CPUs out there as well. Great finds man though, always good videos.
10:00 - Dang, Bryan slides into a Miami Vice chase. :D No sign of a significant panic selloff in the UK yet. There are a few 4000 series cards on ebay, but the bidding is already kinda nuts.
Gigabyte's 4080 Super is super cool too, it stays in the 50s C at full usage LOL several people including myself couldn't believe it since it's a 320W card. Yes, it's that 4nm process that's super efficient and cool, just like the 9000 Ryzens.
don't really see that around here where I am and I dont even see a lot of the 4000 series cards online, they are sold out which kind of indicates the opposite
Guys.. if y'all haven't tried the new Transformer Model.. it is absolutely obvious. It seems that the edge detection is far better. In movement and even when still, it holds more definition instead of fizzling with pixelation. From first sight it was very obvious that the way the upscaling works is a completely different logic. Insane upgrade imo.
Selling a system on Wednesday myself. Not as high end more of a mid end system. 3700 x, 6600 xt, 850w ps, 16gb 3600ram, 2tb 7200rpm nvme, msi pro wifi mobo, CoolerMaster case. $1000 cnd. Worth more but for what I spent I am still getting a small return.
Well, in asia, 4090 cards owners are still offering their used 4090s at $1820 (vanilla)～$2030 (LC ver) or more. The used market prices are ridiculous but ppl are still buying used cards at a little (roughly -$1xx) below MSRP of a new card. Only the 30XX series have really gone down in used price (except 3090/Ti which still costs $700～$900 used). What an insane market. 😅 I am envious at ppl getting 50XX series in the coming month.
I will upgrade when when a graphics card can give me (1) a bigger increase in real frames, (2) more frames per dollar, and (3) more frames per watt. In my opinion, frame generation is best if you are already getting 60+ real frames to begin with and a high refresh rate monitor.
Aussies are smart and are ahead of the sales. Those who wait after RTX 5000 are on the market will regret it because RTX 4000 will have a hard time being sold by then.
My current target are the 30 series nvidia cards especially the 3060 12GB and the 3070. They will probably drop massively in price in the upcoming months with the 50 series release while still being more than powerful enough to have a good experience and i'm looking forward to snagging one up for cheap.
i own the rtx3060 12 gb geforce, paid i think it was around 300 bucks about a year ago new ?, its been a great card so far, just upgraded my monitor to a dell gaming 4k, so far the gpu handles it well.
Looks like Oz is on a different planet from most of us unlucky PC lovers. Here in the overtaxed and frozen EU, used 4080 / S are starting from around 1000 eur, or in other words slightly below brand-new price. Yey
I have a new EVGA 3080Ti and a new ASUS TUF 4090 waiting on new system builds. I've considered selling the GPUs to help with a 5090 LC, but I'd still have to sell my truck in order to buy a complete new system. I'll likely wait a few generations. Best to all.
Gosh I just checked the price on used RTX 4080 here in Viet Nam and they are just ourageously expensive, costing nearly 1000$ which is insane. I wish I were living in the Australia now :((
$800 for a 4080 and $700 for a 4070TiS here in California is what seems to be the market rate. I've got my fingers crossed I can find a 4070TiS for $650 or a 4080 for $750 or 4080S for $800 before the 5090 launches and we get some shortages.
Currently have a 5800x3D but in some games I am a bit CPU bottlenecked. Looked at 9800x3D prices, and maybe I'll just wait until they show up in solid numbers on the used market. That is basically how I got on am4 back in the day too, just wait for people who constantly need to be on the bleeding edge to upgrade
This always happens. I used to waste money chasing the "latest and greatest." Now? I'm perfectly happy with my 7900 XT. There is nothing I can't play at enjoyable frame rates and image quality at 2k and 4k.
I’m very impressed with the rtx5090 value allowing me to hand over $1kAUD and frame generate the remaining $3kAUD for $4k AUD to get my 5090 ….. what a time to be alive 😅😂🤣😂😅
Hope you're doing ok? There is a ton of red skin in the beginning of the vid. Soften the contrast and saturation might help a little for stuff like this. You might have commented this somewhere, in that case, I never got that memo. Kind of wondering if you have the same experience as me, cause the way I see it, grabbing last gen around launch time of the next gen, typically is the time for bargains in general. Particularly CPUs. This probably varies depending on where we live, but for my local used market, it has been like this for years.
Me: *checks various second hand and used gear sites*
Also me: *Sees barely any listings for 40 series cards and those that do want near full retail value*
Me again: *goes back to ignoring gpu's till next gen*
yup, picking up a used 4080/super would've been good. But none of them are anywhere near a panic selling prices, so just waiting to see if amd's card isnt complete crap and badly priced. If not yeah my 30 series card is going to be run into the ground.
Nvidia has stopped producing the 4xxx series since november I thnk it was. So the stock will dry out. But local shops in Norway have increased prices of the 4090 etc. Used prices have also increased.
But I think maybe we will see 5080 perform about 10% better vs 4080 Super (without fake frames), so with less VRAM than 4090, I think 5080 may be a bit of a disappointment due to pricing and the fact that 4090 may be a better card for productivity, AI and real gaming without fake frames.
Of course one can say they like fake frames, but I dont see the reason to use fake frames on the highend cards. You will get a theoretical FPS boost, but increase the input lag a lot! Also more artifacts.
I can see the tech beeing usefull for laptops etc where you cant afford to have a super high power consumption due to battery, cooler constraint etc.
I jumped on TiSuper. Sweet spot. Seems like with 50 series (other than the framegen made for 240hz monitors) the performance of my GPU may have dropped to about $700 from $800. What an insane uplift to price performance lol
@@OlavAlexanderMjeldeI would use the 2x frame Gen but the new cyberpunk update makes the game lock to 60 in my vrr 144hz monitor so I turned it off until that is resolved. I enjoy the smoothing effect and really makes pathtracing viable on 4k with my GPU. The new transformer models so very impressive for the few hours I played last night. It is probably the biggest update I have seen to dlss... Idk why Nvidia didn't hold it to 50 series lol can we actually use the words Generous Jensen? 😂😂😂
The title of this video is literally a lie. The prices both store price new stock and 2nd had has gone up over the last 6 weeks
Doesn't it feel weird being upside down in Australia?
when you've been upside down your entire life, the others are the ones who are upside down
Tfw my ground-harness breaks and I fall into the sun
no cause its own continent. An doesn't have massive pandemics like the rest of the world
jokes getting old dude heard it all before. find another joke LOL
@@GODLIKEZ490maybe for you, I chuckled
not in my local market.
Some guy posted an RTX 4080S for a week at 950 AUD and after yesterday reviews, the ad was deleted lol
People are posting their 4090's here in Sydney for 3k or more but honestly I am going to put mine up for 2k if I can get a 5090, as I think this is a more realistic price.
@@MaTtRoSiTythat’s a terrible idea
@@MaTtRoSiTyyou’re a rare, honourable, gem sir
after seeing the 5090 semi flop i’m considering a used 4090 and selling my 4080 for a grand but used prices are more than original retail lol
@@MaTtRoSiTy in Norway they are beeing sold around 19.000 NOK ( 2638 AUD ).
If I were to list mine I think I would put it out at ~2100 AUD / 15.000 NOK.
The 5090 FE and 5090 TUF from Asus seems to be the cheapest ones at first, at 28500 NOK ( 4025 AUD ).
I think the 5080 might disappoint, I imagine it will perform maybe 5-10% better in rasterization vs 4080 Super.
So the 5080 at rasterization might be worse than 4090, then also the 5080 has less VRAM so I imagine it most likely also will be worse for AI.
But of course we will see, when 5080 drops.
Pity. Sounds like a steal. Over here in the old world people are still asking €500+ for used 4070 NON super ;)
I cannot for the life of me understand people who are that ready to throw away money to upgrade only last gen hardware. The money spent must be crazy. For marginal gains too.
if you're a comp gamer every frame counts. and a 30-35% improvement from a 4090 to a 5090 is pretty nice bump.
@@WickedRed1WR how much did jensen insert himself into you for this brain fart comment?
@WickedRed1WR is that really worth $2000 a year?
@@AbbasDalal1000 Skin Jacket getting upgrades xDD
@@MarcoGPUtuber Some people have more money that the one they really deserve.
In Europe 40 series are even more expensive than MSRP. 3080s you can get for around 400USD. I'm in Poland
MSRP is much higher in european countries, RTX 5070 is 2849PLN (about $710) in Poland. Usually it's MSRP + VAT + $30
Just got used 3070 from allegro for 1250 pln. Most games run 4k +60 fps with high settings. Even better with DLLS. Great deal honestly.
@@MattWey123 sell it and get a 3080 for 250 PLN more - it’s 25% more performance
but u can get brand new 7800xt with warranty for like 500usd in EU, it has 3090 performance
my 4 year old 3060 still runs everything i want very well at medium/high 1440p. Won't be upgrading for a couple more years.
And hardware upscaling at quality still looks good on a 1440p monitor.
Exact same man the 3060 12gb is a low-key beast
Try Endzone 2... my 3060Ti at 97percent and i got there just 8 houses.....its just a Tutorial !!!!
5800x3d & 3060TI owner, I'm finally going to upgrade in a few months when cards are available at retail prices.
Yeah your lowly 3060 is heaven on earth. LOL.
A 4090 is at least 3 times faster, how do you even compare these.
Besides, a couple a years from now your 3060 will be completely obsolete.
That Starcraft music tho... Great video as always Bryan.
Came to say the same thing.. a man of taste! Unlocked some memories when I heard it.
"Your base is under attack"
Additional pylons are required
Jacked up and good to go!
I think it may still be a good idea to pick up 3 series cards that have more than 8GB VRAM than 4 series GPUs with 8GB VRAM.
good point that
I grabbed a 4070Ti Super for a friends new build just over a week ago. He was using a loaner card from me on a fantastic all new parts system. He wanted to get 50 series and just plug and play. Huge selling point for the older gen is they basically just plug and play. Every new launch and you just bought your way into Beta 101.
Maybe in Australia but here in the US in the Ozarks 40 series used are MSRP
Same over here in the old world. People are kinda bonkers. Or maybe we're only seeing those muppets asking insane prices and the "good deals" are sniped by bots instantly? Who knows :(
Who even buys these when new cards are at the same price that's what I don't get.
In Germany used cards seem to be straight up more expensive than new, somehow.
Yeah USA prices are not that great in the used market either, MSRP or higher.
Yeah I stopped watching that show, it got really stupid
I am still happy with my GTX 1070...everything what I like to play runs very smooth😊
Nothing wrong with being content with what you have :) cheers!
i had a 1080 did its job but then i got a 3070 boi i was missing a lot got it for 180$ used
@@vishwajeetpanwar3271 you were lucky! Here in Malta prices are way higher like 3070 for 350+ and if I am lucky to fund one second hand
@igorpro8029 hmmm then i guess not keep it and try loss less scaling on steam fuck expensive used parts
Congrats? But that's a low-end card now. I guess you don't play anything demanding.
Having spent $2700 AUD on my 4080 when it was new I'm gonna be sticking with this card for many years yet.
Chilling with RX watching all the mugs rob each other 🤣😆🤣🤣
Rx 480 or?
@@christophermullins7163 Get with the times bro.
Hardware seems super cheap in Australia, I sold 4080S in like 5 minutes for a little over 1000USD few days ago in EU.
Yeah it's pretty cheap here, as well as Japan. US too, but I haven't been there in 6 years now. wow time flies.
I've seen 4080/s in the $900-1000 in the state. It's rare. $1400 is the cheapest 4090 and that is a dell OEM.
@@techyescity Haven't seen any cheap offers in Japan.
@christophermullins7163 The cheapest I have seen a 4090 in the us is $1000 usd. I think that was an outliner. I have seen $1400 to 1650 usd lately
Yeah i am seeing the odd ball 4090 for around 1k. But typically close to 1500+. Basically if you find a nonmined card for 1k you should jump on it. Few i saw on ebay for 1k are suspicious for various reasons though...from shipping from China to someone with multiple indicating it was a mining card or workhorse
Really love the StarCraft music in there, reminds me of the heydays
Except for one hot stuff build I did with X58 in 2008 (and a followup slightly lesser version of it in 2009 because Amazon double shipped half the order) I have always been a few generations behind on hardware.
Ive been hearing about alot of 40 series scams going around where cards are being sold with the internals removed from them
7:40 nice terran music here
I was like: Is that the Star Craft song playing? lol I had flashbacks
I literally listen to the terran theme when I go out sometimes, this time I opened this video and I thought that because of some bug my music was overlapping with the video 😂
Terran 3, underrated :P
Go go go!
Came here for this, couldn't pin-point that theme song from the top of my head
I think I saw a lot more cards (4090 and 4080 7900xtx ) before the embargo was lifted for reviews. Now people realized that a 15 to 20 percent uplift at 4k doesn't warrant a 2 thousand dollar upgrade.
Does nobody learn from past mistakes anymore?! I vividly remember when people sold their RTX2000 cards for cheap in 2020 and had to watch Scalpers buy all of the few new 30 series cards.
i think some of these folks are in a bad financial situaution
We’re not in a pandemic anymore, mate.
@ dosent matter 9800x3d was unavaailable for months and now and then u get in stock last time i saw it was 600 msrp is 480 50 series will be sold out for the 1st few months better get in line or have ur bots ready
I think that was also when the latest Crypto boom had started, so no gamer could get any new cards.
@@ELpeaceonearth9800x3d are plentiful at microcenter got one at msrp not too hard to get if you’re willing to drive
I remember you buying up all the 2000 series cards at the launch of the 3000 series and then that huge gpu shortange happened
I would seriously avoid Gigabyte GPUs. I cruise Newegg quite a bit, and I see a ton of refurbished Gigabyte GPUs on there, which means they break a lot. I realize that refurbs can also be trade-ins that have been cleaned up and not repaired, but when there are quite a few of the exact same model GPU on Newegg as a refurbished, then that points to a problem
Last 3 gens I had a 2080/3080 gigabyte auros master, and a 4080 gigabyte aero oc. All great with zero issues. I wouldn6 even consider thinking they're any faultier than any other brand
For amd they are terrible
Someone on eBay Australia sold their 4090 for $1,500 AUD. Legit photos, legit feedback, legit description. I couldn't believe it.
I would have bought that. would have paid 1650.
Panic selling 4000 series cards that are pretty much as fast at the same power draw as the 5000 series is. The 5000 series is not much better then a refresh. :) AMD UDNA and 6000 series in 2026-2027 will be a node shrink and something to get excited over
30% is 30%. People that play on 4k need every bit of gain.
1440p and 1080p the 5090 isn't worth it.
I still want to get an Rx 9070 XT for my eGPU enclosure. You can't beat amd gpus for use on Linux gaming rigs. Nvidia drivers suck on linux
I would rather buy a 4090 new right now than a 5090. At MSRP, it's a better value. A 24 gig 5080 at 1200 or 1400 would completely kill the 5090...like imagine any of these 5000 series cards with higher vram and then add 200 bucks to msrp, then tell me 5090 isn't a terrible value proposition. Who would buy 5090 if there was a 24g or 32g 5080, even if it was 1400 msrp? No one.
I don't get it though. Ngreedia will artificially shorten the supply of 50X0 cards/chips for sure. They make WAY more money in the AI bracket. The gaming cards are rather a "showcase" of sorts i reckon.
@Luxflux777 good luck finding a 4090 at msrp. I'll sell u mine for 2$k
Loved the retro feel of the Starcraft Terran music!
Love the music selection. "Build more supply depots". "Not enough minerals".
I checked US markets, no signs of panic or better deals here Plus, it would be haphazard to sell yours before you get a 50 series, not knowing for certain when you can get one They may be as easy to get as 40 series? Bit coin mining is dead so GPUs shouldn't be that difficult to obtain
Thanks for checking so I don't have to... It'll be months before most people can start getting their hands on these things.
That’s because the people in USA are busy dealing with a messy leader, and their huge losses of money from the leader meme coins; they don’t have extra money for upgrade to the RTX 5000.
@@tagodain He has not been in power long enough to do damage to the economy, were doing just fine
Loving the music man. Interesting video and be interesting to follow the prices.
On eBay in the US, almost all RTX 4080/Super are over MSRP...
yes, it makes a lot sense to pay more for used GPU...
Don't forget about those tons of non-working 4090 / 4090D "without chip and ram" sold in bulk everywhere! I know you know about those. Just a reminder ;) Take care. Thanks for sharing.
Whole build montage I’m thinking “in the rear, with the gear”
Yeah just a quick spot check in my area (US) and prices on 3000 and 4000 series are somehow even MORE inflated than they were before reviews
Decided to check your statement out, and well, kinda funny: The first decently priced and proper looking 4080 Super FE I found on ebay (Germany) is sold by some person who is into SFF PCs. Shows the "seldom used" GPU inside the Ncase M2 "cheese grater" xD
I held on to the 4080 and the 4090. No way I would sell them
The soundtrack to this video elevated from a 10/10 to a 20/10.
awesome music choice in a lot of the video brian , now i want to play og starcraft some lol
Across the tech media, the focus is on "what delivers the maximum performance" and very little on "What delivers sufficient performance". Users would do well to those few who focus on the latter!
Cant believe the first 2 comments here are bot 😭😭
Poof! They are gone!
I thought those fire selling 2080ti cards with Ampere launching were pretty clueless , but to see 4080s being fire sold with only slightly better hardware around the corner takes it to a whole new level 😂
I say this as someone who has owned both of those cards as well and my 4080 Super serves me well.
4080 is and will still be good for "almost everything" in 1440 for a good while.
@@peterpain6625It's 2025, who in their right mind plays at 1440p while 4K DLSS Performance exists?
At least you're not as clueless as Asmongold. That dude is talking about getting a 5090 but still playing on 1440p because 4K is "probably not worth it yet"
Meanwhile all benchmarks I see is the gap between the 4090 and 5090 at 4K being the biggest, while below that it's a waste of money.
@@peterpain6625 I'm quite happy using my 4080 Super with a 4k144 display :) - might not max it out most of the time but it does well. I reckon it's going to be good at that for at least another 3-4 years , the 5080 isn't much better
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Rtx 5080 is only 15% faster than 4080 super.... bad generation.
@789uio6y I've seen a leak from Blender suggesting even less than that .Given that I run my 4080 Super at 360W and 2.9Ghz core/25.6Gbps memory I'm going to be very interested to see what the benchmarks will be for it 😂
Anyone selling their 4000 series cards expecting to get a 5000 series is an idiot. These idiots clearly have never been through a GPU launch. The 5090 is going to be absolutely scarce.
Even more so now that Nvidia redesigned their card for enterprise solutions. They did not spend all that money for gamers benefit. There is a huge market these days that is just below enterprise level hardware. And that card will meet it very nicely. Gamers don't need to be able to fit multiple GPU's like AI etc does.
the 50 gen doesn't look like it's worth going through the hassle of selling the old stuff, when i switched to 4k because i planned to upgrade i thought 4090 will stink in 4k but it's actually really good already, if you think about it it's kinda like a 5080ti now 20-30% more is just not worth that much money. also i would never be able to watercool a 5090, 4090 already made me reconsider if i wanted to do it because the price is just so ridiculous.
USE LOSSLESS on 4090 will get same results as MFG. waste of money an development
Nice background music. I want to play StarCraft now. 😆
Really? I've noticed prices have gone up in the US market over these last few months, especially used. I was lucky to find my 4080 for $800 back in August
Ehh, here in the states eBay has 3090s going for $1500 and the only 4K series under $1500 are broken for parts only.
Yeah, insane used market price for 3090/Ti.
The used market where I live is delusional. Minimum price for RTX 4000 Series go for 90% of new cards pricing and the majority goes with higher prices (I can't understand how and where is the demand for this used prices), spetially 4090's.
I'm waiting to buy a used 4090 or 4080 or 4070 Ti Super, but with these delusional used pricing I'd be better buying a new card with warranty and stuff.
Prices are still trash in the UK, people are paying near retail
be careful on the intel 13th and 14th gen procs, the entire 65w and above line has the possibility of corrosion.
In the EU, used 40-series are only slightly less than brand new, usually more. You can get a brand new 4080S from ComputerUniverse in EU for or slightly below MSRP (1,099 Euro). I got one for 1079 last week. 5080 MSRP is about 1,200 (if you are very lucky), so if you can't get a 5080, a new 4080S will probably give you 90%+ of the performance.
Ya wanna be quick on 40 series deals. The more 50 series drops, my 4090 looks to stay just under my original purchase price.
Scored a ASUS TUF 4090 for $1200 off of FBMP and a 7900 xtx Asrock Taichi for $650. Great times.
4080’s still going for around 1k usd near me. I bought a 3080ti FE for $300usd.
meand 4080 gp to 360 price
3080ti is still a decent card. Gave one to a friend with a fried 4090. He had the 4090 replaced for a while and is not putting it back in because "everything works alright" ;)
@@buzzbang9164 idk what you’re trying to say here
@@peterpain6625 yup, solid card for sure. Had plans to get a 5080 but I think the 3080 ti will do just fine for another year or 2 for me. I only play bfv anyway lol.
Amazing price compared to the used rip off UK prices.
You got a great deal when you purchased that RTX 3080 for 450$ here in Norway it costs the equivalent of 700 for the cheaper versions and 800 for the expensive models.
Sold my 4090 at the equivalent of 2100 au$ and I think I could have earned roughly 300 bucks more with some patience but I wanted the money in my pocket before the launch of the 5090.
The 5090 FE launches here at the equivalent of 4070au$ but it will get sold out and the prices we actually have to pay for most of the AIB models is likely atleast 300 - 500 bucks more.
Not seeing any "deals" on used GPUs that are actually substantially below current retail.
Can confirm a bunch of people were selling RTX 4060s and 4060 ti's for basically 350 USD, i managed to snag one for barter plus cash (traded my 2070 non super)
good deal
Can't wait for the day the 4090 will be a budget-friendly card.
Not only did nVIDIA leap nodes with the 4000 series, but they also jumped from Samsung (on a much inferior node) to TSMC.
throwing away money on new stuff for no improvement on price/perf, vram and efficiency is insane.
I just did a platform upgraded because went from the G9 ultra wide to triple g5 screens for my SIM racing setup and still wanted to play 1440 but didn't want to wait The end of January with there being no 9800 x3ds available so I end up getting a bundle deal for a new ryzen 9 7950 x3d and x670 motherboard for 750$ and then got a brand new Zotec 4080 super for $950 and then sold my 5800x3d motherboard and ram to my friend and had him get the rest of the the parts for me to build him a PC for his new Sim rig and I'm completely happy
Bry, do the multiple encoders improve performance of a single stream? I thought having multiple just made it so you could do more jobs at the same time, but I could be wrong.
really ? can u show me please where people sale them ?
I'm just in love with these pick-up-deal series
Used RTX 40 series are a great option for upgrades too - like AM4 (10th/11th gen Intel CPUs tool) based systems etc. There are still relatively affordable Ryzen 5000 series CPUs out there as well. Great finds man though, always good videos.
10:00 - Dang, Bryan slides into a Miami Vice chase. :D
No sign of a significant panic selloff in the UK yet. There are a few 4000 series cards on ebay, but the bidding is already kinda nuts.
Gigabyte's 4080 Super is super cool too, it stays in the 50s C at full usage LOL several people including myself couldn't believe it since it's a 320W card. Yes, it's that 4nm process that's super efficient and cool, just like the 9000 Ryzens.
Sounds like when people were panic selling the 2000 series, hopefully the stock on the 5000 series is much better than the 3000
Nope. Even worse apparently.
don't really see that around here where I am
and I dont even see a lot of the 4000 series cards online, they are sold out
which kind of indicates the opposite
Guys.. if y'all haven't tried the new Transformer Model.. it is absolutely obvious. It seems that the edge detection is far better. In movement and even when still, it holds more definition instead of fizzling with pixelation. From first sight it was very obvious that the way the upscaling works is a completely different logic. Insane upgrade imo.
Wait, you actually found the 9800X3D in stock somewhere in Australia?
It took me a couple of minutes before I realized what that music was. I have not played Star Craft in years.
I went from Rx 590-rtx3060- to a rtx 3080 used & am really pleased with the performance & price etc.
Selling a system on Wednesday myself. Not as high end more of a mid end system. 3700 x, 6600 xt, 850w ps, 16gb 3600ram, 2tb 7200rpm nvme, msi pro wifi mobo, CoolerMaster case. $1000 cnd. Worth more but for what I spent I am still getting a small return.
What website you use for gpus
Well, in asia, 4090 cards owners are still offering their used 4090s at $1820 (vanilla)～$2030 (LC ver) or more. The used market prices are ridiculous but ppl are still buying used cards at a little (roughly -$1xx) below MSRP of a new card. Only the 30XX series have really gone down in used price (except 3090/Ti which still costs $700～$900 used). What an insane market. 😅 I am envious at ppl getting 50XX series in the coming month.
I will upgrade when when a graphics card can give me (1) a bigger increase in real frames, (2) more frames per dollar, and (3) more frames per watt.
In my opinion, frame generation is best if you are already getting 60+ real frames to begin with and a high refresh rate monitor.
Aussies are smart and are ahead of the sales. Those who wait after RTX 5000 are on the market will regret it because RTX 4000 will have a hard time being sold by then.
My current target are the 30 series nvidia cards especially the 3060 12GB and the 3070. They will probably drop massively in price in the upcoming months with the 50 series release while still being more than powerful enough to have a good experience and i'm looking forward to snagging one up for cheap.
i own the rtx3060 12 gb geforce, paid i think it was around 300 bucks about a year ago new ?, its been a great card so far, just upgraded my monitor to a dell gaming 4k, so far the gpu handles it well.
So where can I find these 4090s being sold at fire sale prices?
Initial benchmarks are showing the 5090 has a high CPU overhead. Might be why a lot of people are selling whole systems.
So, you are doing exactly what Huang said: "The more you buy, the more you save"
Looks like Oz is on a different planet from most of us unlucky PC lovers. Here in the overtaxed and frozen EU, used 4080 / S are starting from around 1000 eur, or in other words slightly below brand-new price. Yey
I have a new EVGA 3080Ti and a new ASUS TUF 4090 waiting on new system builds. I've considered selling the GPUs to help with a 5090 LC, but I'd still have to sell my truck in order to buy a complete new system. I'll likely wait a few generations. Best to all.
There's that 10900k.... Sick score
Good, in Italy for a 4080, you have to spend at least 2000 AUD for new and 1800 for used. Big F
I'm so sad that in Europe the used market is so terrible
the problem with buy used is that people are removing the GPU chip out of it
if you buy from Ebay, you have Ebay protection.
I wish they did this in the US. No one fire selling here.
Gosh I just checked the price on used RTX 4080 here in Viet Nam and they are just ourageously expensive, costing nearly 1000$ which is insane. I wish I were living in the Australia now :((
Facebook marketplace, everybody's trying to get full price still for something that's used
$800 for a 4080 and $700 for a 4070TiS here in California is what seems to be the market rate.
I've got my fingers crossed I can find a 4070TiS for $650 or a 4080 for $750 or 4080S for $800 before the 5090 launches and we get some shortages.
They will want to buy those cards back if the DDR7 shortage becomes a thing.
@@mateopaul-jc5xq I'll pretend it's been soldered down lol.
AU$879 for the 9800X3D, that's a bargain. In Europe it is 1040 Australian dollars (630 Euros).
Being a broke loser must suck. I upgrade every generation and always get my $ back.
I would love to buy last gen hardware for cheap. In Germany here the used market is basically broken. All I can find is priced as high as brandnew.
Currently have a 5800x3D but in some games I am a bit CPU bottlenecked. Looked at 9800x3D prices, and maybe I'll just wait until they show up in solid numbers on the used market. That is basically how I got on am4 back in the day too, just wait for people who constantly need to be on the bleeding edge to upgrade
This always happens. I used to waste money chasing the "latest and greatest." Now? I'm perfectly happy with my 7900 XT. There is nothing I can't play at enjoyable frame rates and image quality at 2k and 4k.
Gotta love that Starcraft music.
I wish I was finding 4080's for that price.
I’m very impressed with the rtx5090 value allowing me to hand over $1kAUD and frame generate the remaining $3kAUD for $4k AUD to get my 5090 ….. what a time to be alive 😅😂🤣😂😅
Hope you're doing ok? There is a ton of red skin in the beginning of the vid. Soften the contrast and saturation might help a little for stuff like this. You might have commented this somewhere, in that case, I never got that memo. Kind of wondering if you have the same experience as me, cause the way I see it, grabbing last gen around launch time of the next gen, typically is the time for bargains in general. Particularly CPUs. This probably varies depending on where we live, but for my local used market, it has been like this for years.
The US unfortunately is too greedy to post prices like this LOL