The Most Satisfying CAS Destroyer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2022
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Playing self-propelled anti-air vehicles and denying CAS planes any victories is probably my favorite activity in War Thunder. Proximity-fuzed high explosive rounds are especially helpful for this, and the Chinese WZ305 is one of the first SPAA to get the. The WZ305 is basically a ZSU-57-2 with proxy, so it's great at destroying tanks as well as aircraft. It's probably the most satisfying SPAA I've used since vehicles with radar almost feel too easy sometimes. It's much more rewarding when you get the lead right yourself. I've seen some people saying the WZ is overpowered, but I don't think I agree. I hope Gaijin keeps it where it is, truth be told.
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Spookston slowly realizeing that the ccc (Chinese cancer car) is stupid op is kind of cute.
I'd call it Chinese Cancer Proliferator
@Femboy Friday Can you put Taiwanese flags on the Chinese vehicles?
8.0 thermals and stabiliser, while me looking at the us 8.0 line up like bruhhh
@@goliver9991 M60 AOS, Bradley, T95E1, M551.. I don’t see a problem
@@cheyannei5983 you can, if you want to get teamkilled by literally every chinese player you encounter
Remember that the chinese cancer wagon is 8.0 and 75mm Rooikat is 8.3 while being slower, doing less damage, lacking thermals and generally being a bigger target
Are you dutch
The 76mm rooikat should be 8.0, the rooikat 105 should be 9.3 at least.
@@whohashamburger855 lol what
And the Radkampfwagon is 9.7 without thermals (though it does have lots of other pros, still 9.7 seems a little ridiculous)
The radkampfwagen sits at 9.7 without thermals and same huge size… okay it has dm33 but like really? Not like it matters cuz i mostly use it in my 10.0 or 11.3 lineup for flanks but still a bit confusing (it was 9.3 before and even 9.0 before that)
"CAS is never there when I want it to be, and always there when I don't."
I think that is true for most things in life Spookston.
The poor VDV bastards at Hostomel:
@@Sky_Guy Yeah. I feel real bad for them, drop you off and leave you to die. Great job Russia, way to build moral.
Btw, that PTL 02 is at the same BR as the M41 w/ a worse engine, gen 1 thermals, 76.1mm APFSDS, which itself has lower pen and damage), all because balanz
Lol that M41D is such a pain to use completely.
And the same br as the M60A1 for reasons
The best part of M41D is no stabilizer :)))
M41D is a joke. Most of the times at BR8.0, it's APFSDS performed badly because it has a tendency to overpen light tanks and heavy tanks with little post-penetration damage. But at top tier if you shoot the weak points of the Main Battle Tanks, it performed very well.
PTL02 and WMA301 are some of the most under tiered vehicles at that BR range. Gen 2 thermals, good darts, very mobile, and the 301 even gets tandem warhead missiles along side a proxy HE shell.
Idk how the Rooikat 105 always escapes the same judgement
While your not wrong they need to go up in BR, but for wheeled vehicles they are slow so if you put them any higher than 8.7 they'd get outpaced by MBTS and the fact they can't reverse faster than 7km and hour unlike other armored cars and you can HMG them from 800ms away it's kinda hard to balance them.
You forgot the laser range finder.
@@bobhiest7883 That's every wheeled vehicle. It's an inherent downside of the suspension. That doesn't somehow make it less lethal or it's reconnaissance abilities weaker.
The wma301 has to good of a gun for its BR
2:36 Thats how OP the Falcon is, it instill fear in players.
he could sense the killing intent
bloody well deserve to be terrified of it if you're in a Cancer Car.
@@firestarteronyoutube5542 yesterday I saw that thing kill a T-10M, and it then killed me from the front in a IS-3, from like 200m
@@bloodwyn4184 Meanwhile, IS-4, just sitting there letting them empty their wallets into me while I casually 50cal them. What having an unexposed driver hatch does to a MFer.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 I dont think he got me through the drivers hatch, he was at a angle. Like a 35* angle to my front.
Step 1: Take WZ305 into battle.
Step 2: Take ZSU-37-2 aka Enisey with you in a squad.
Step 3: ask your 37-2 teammate to give you firing solution to lay your 57mm VT fuzed shells into.
Step 4: wake up and realize that this game doesn't support teamplay and vehicle retention outside SB.
I really hate the PTL02, the fact that some players are defending it being 8.0 by saying its armor can be penned by HMGs and the cross country capability is poor. But who needs armor when u js shoot and scoot or most of the times just camp in the back, use thermals and pick on the 7.0 vehicles
My main gripe about playing it and the WMA is the awful gun depression, size, and that the Rooikats are just kinda better given what they fight at those BRs
@@Blackdragon271 lack of skill
@@Blackdragon271 The rooikat mk.1d is aweful, it's 76mm gun has no post pen damage and the crew is closer together making it easier to be one shot.
"Bro just MG it bro"
I somehow non-pen it with the AMX-30's 20mm and even if I do pen it, the crew is so spaced out, and it's turret rotation so fast, you sometimes CAN"T kill it. I've put 105 HEAT into them and it does NOTHING because they're so spread out.
My defense would be that the chinese 8.0 lineup is absolutely terrible outside of the PTL and the WZ305 (type 59 being worse t55a at same br, type 69 having meme accuracy etc.), it kinda needs the PTL to be competitive.
0:35 I hadn't noticed you switched to the PTL02 (was looking at comments) when you said "I don't have the sabot round for it yet", looked, and saw APFSDS and though to myself "THE WZ305 HAS WHAT NOW?!" nearly had a small heart attack there.
yes, gib wz305 apfsds and move to 2.3 pls gaijoob
The fact that the T-95 can meet the PTL-02 makes me sad.
Bro, don't you know it is impossible to OHK T95 from the front with HE, bro.
~some sweatlord explaining why he needs Wumao and PTL is balanced
im waiting for the day artillery just fails to work and spook is left in stitches seeing a 155mm HE shell stuck in the turret of whatever open top SPAA he plays next
You should definitely make a video on the PTL02 and the WMA301. “Very well balanced vehicles” - I say so to increase my social credit score
Very good comrade, you are loyal tiger citizen of the people's republic
Only through the tireless study of Xi Jingling Thought: Socialism with Chinese Characteristics can the exemplary citizen achieve these kill ratios.
@@booradley6832tiger?
The trick to playing anti-cas is to play in squads. That way your squad's tank aura draws in more cas for you to kill. My brother and I do that and he always ends up with like 4-5 planes killed every other game. It's awesome, he's so good at AA I love playing with him.
If you’re the kind of person who learned how to shoot down planes with the M19 or M42, then the WZ305 basically turns you into an angel of death. Even 9.0+ aircraft needs to be wary of that thing.
Bruh that thing is so much fun at 10.0+ where everybody and their mum plays with helis. Big fat juice targets yum, keep feeding me
@@Wienerslinky lol, everyone? i barely ever met helis playing the LAV for america, freindly or enemy alike, ive met more helies at 8.0 than 10.0 not to mention i barely meet any planes either
"I made him hit the whip" Is not a phrase I ever imagined spookston to utter
Can you please play the Merkava or the Strv 103?
Spookston, you managed to miss the fact that the PTL02 has an APFSDS round as standard, you were using HEAT-FS the entire time. Also the PTL, at 8.0 is functionally identical to the WMA301 at 8.3 except for gun size. PTL is a 100mm, the WMA is 105mm which also has a gun fired tandem warhead ATGM AND a Proxy round.
I didn't miss it, the default APFSDS sucks. It only has 220mm of flat pen. I wouldn't have been able to kill that hull-down M60 with it.
He was using heatfs coz that stock apfsds is just painfully bad. And thanks to laser rangefinder you have no problem with hitting stuff with heat so yeah...
You shit talking the strongest apfsds in the game? Natoids and Soviet Revisionists can’t handle 220mm of pure Maoism
Penetration of the shell does not matter when the armor is variable thickness
If you want some lower tier CAS fun, try the ZSD63 in the Chinese tree. It has decent mobility and a really high rate of fire. It recently had its reload time nearly halved to 13 seconds. I use it for when I get "Bird Hunt" for a battle pass task. Remember to use short bursts of fire with this one.
Finland developed its own prototype of the ZSU called the ZSU-57-2M, it added a radar in addition to programmable ammunition. It would be interesting to see it in the game.
The OS2U is another one of those "so bad they removed it" vehicles that now you can only unlock after getting to Tier II. I'd like you to try it in air or ground RB rather than naval.
spook: *spawns in as AA specifically for planes*
also spook: "oh right im supposed to be looking for planes, aren't i?"
That's one thing I love about play AA the amount of skill that it takes to hit and all of the ammo has different flight characteristics there's just a certain satisfaction when you take one out of the sky
Thanks for the good content bro!
Love this kinds of videos can’t wait to see more lol
I will say the chinese tech tree is absurdly fun. I never had such a painless grind going down a tech tree, your WW2 vehicles are all just the greatest hits albums from the US and Russia, and its premium vehicles at the higher tiers are honestly kinda busted. The ZTZ59A especially. Exact same rating as the type 59, only it gets a laser rangefinder and smokes otherwise its the same.
Unironically if you haven't, play the chinese tree. Seriously, its really fun. There are very few bad vehicles in it. Mostly the PT-76 as its the exact same BR as the russian counterpart only it doesn't get a stabilizer for whatever reason making playing it much more difficult. I've still had good success with it, it still has the heat-fs that really only lets you pinpoint take down crew members but still can frontally pen a tiger 2 in places.
Basically Gaijjin realized that no one wants to play the CCP and now are tryna undertier the living shit out of it
@@honkhonk8009 eh just do what I do and slap Taiwan emblems over the CCP emblems
I'd largely agree with you, only unfun Road bump I hit was the 4.0 sherman, the M4A1 (75) I think?
It might have just been a tank I didn't gel with, but the stock grind was awful. Even when unlock the better round with explosive filler, it's hard to kill anything because it's 0.3 of a br higher than the tank before it.
I really hate the tank, but it's kind of needed to make a lineup, but again it might just be a vehicle I either don't gel with or have seriously bad luck in.
@@VenomGamingCenter I mean it's still a Sherman, the stock shell sucks but the M61 is really good. Once you get it, it's just a second Sherman to run along with the rest of your 3.7 vehicles. It is kinda awkward it's your only 4.0 vehicle but its not a big deal.
@@boilingpot6941 It must have changed I just remember it and the Russian version were at the exact same BR but it seems at least in realistic the Russian one is .3 higher.
Still if that's the bar for one of the worse off vehicles in the Chinese tech tree that's still significantly better then a lot of other nations.
This video was so satisfying to watch.
I played war thunder for a good year before I gave it up because it became a chore, but your content is still always great, good on you for sticking it out with gaijin
Good video as always 😃
Man i love the command and conquer music at the beginning
I literally just started stock grinding the Chinese 8.0 lineup today, since I finally finished the M48A1 and ZBD86. Got the Type 69, Type 59, PTL02, and WZ305. Researching the M41D, and will eventually get to the M113A1.
Haven't used this ZSU very much yet, and I'm not looking forward to the stock grind, but I can't wait to get it up to the HE proximity rounds. Seems like an absolute monster in its final form.
Nice to see some game play of the 2 tanks I put a talisman on ! Great grinder
Hey, Spookston, I have a request for what you might play next, I think the EBRs would be quite fun!
Love these vids you do.
Dude the C&C Generals music going in the back, daaamn
the PTL is a 9.7 vehicle at 8.0
Yeah, the PTL is over powered as all hell at its BR. That thing does fine even at 11.0 as a backup or flank and spanker.
Idk enough about WT to suggest any vehicles, people, suggest some vehicles for this man so plays and we don't have to! It's legit fun to watch!
The fact that he released this video and i saw do many of these today
From my experience using the normal russian 57-2, I can definitely say that getting the shells near the target is fairly easy, but getting a direct hit is very hard. Thinking about the chinese one having proxy shells makes me jealous sometimes.
This thing is easily the strongest SPAA at 8.0, a gepard may be scary when you are in the air, but a wz is true fear. It could shoot at you at any time from anywhere and instantly kill you.
Gepard is garbage, as are all the other gepard-related spaas. Easily countered and avoided even when directly attacking them. The only real danger from the ground are wz and swedish veak, proximity shells are almost always a guaranteed death sentence for your plane.
From a couple of kms you can dodge other radar SPAA, you can switch heading (up and down will work) but that thing is a one shot monster, most times I get sniped by that thing I either dont see attack or I was already dodging a gepard/ZSU/veak/whatever.
The M163 is at the same tier, does not havr search radar, weak 20mm, cant defend itself, exposed gunner, no thermals
China has, dare I say it, the strongest 8.0/8.3 line up in the game, probably ever. TOW-2B at 8.3, the WMA301 gets a Tandem with Gen 2 Therms, T-69-II is absurdly better than the ZTZ59 even tho they're very similar. I could write an essay on this but China is OP and I love it so much.
Now they have also the Object 122 MT haha at 8.3
I dunno I feel like a lot of people are underestimating the Chinese tree. The only enemy this tech tree has is time, as warthunder gets more an more modern the Chinese tech tree is probably going to be one of the most diverse in the game. The only nation where you have the possibility of having F16s, Flankers, possibly mirages, all available in the same tree? I’m in for the long haul, they will be a super power 🗿
Keep playing what you want to play. I like hearing what you have to say about anything/everything.
Love watching CAS go down
Man i really wish u did videos where we get alot more gameplay of u playing tank rb. Its so staisfying in my OP to wacth u play
The greatest limiting factor of PTL02 is its gun accuracy. It can get quite inaccurate passing 500 meters. However, once you gets the level 4 APFSDS round, it has the penetration and post pen effect that do quick work once you land the shell on an enemy vehicle. Also, it is so quick on road/city maps. It can easily get close to the enemy to mitigate the inaccurate gun. Oh, also, the Gen 2 Thermal view is just beautiful.
Innacurate? Like how, look at Spooks HeatFS in the video
spookston having fun is actually entertaining
Let's see Spook do crouching tiger, hidden baguette with the AML-90 please!
2:06
yeah, I get the same feeling about the whole "when you're a spaa there's no planes but when your a tank they're everywhere" thing
PTL02 and WMA301 are two of my most hated vehicles at the BR. They are so insanely undertiered, they could both go up 0.7 each and be fine.
Cas destroyer? That thing is a tank destroyer
Yes, I really wanna Breda 501 vid pls
Would be interested in seeing you play the Ratel 90.
"i played it twice before"
- has it fully spaded
yes, free GE from gajin does that
in other words its a account made for showcasing the game
Very satisfying indeed!😊
2:08…
Truer words have yet to be spoken my friend, every single bloody time!!! Lolz 🤬🤬🤬
Spookston, I really want to see you play ARL-44. Love the video.
It would be nice to see some Gameplay with the super Pershing
If you like the ptl try the WMA it is the same but with an ATGM in the main cannon
Definitely my favourite cancer removal tool, too bad the regular zsu doesnt have proxies
the most fun AA tnak ever seen
If you ever could do a video on the class 3(p) I’d love it
You should try the CM25 and illustrate why top attack missiles at 8.3 is just broken in the right hands.
dont forget, the WMA-301 has tandem ATGMs, and proxy rounds with second gen thermals at the same BR as the PTL
“What is this vehicle” it’s a wheeled AFV from 2002, hence the ‘02’ in its name
Exactly why i play the bagel panzer, i use it as a aa main agaisnt aircraft with the proxis
A yes another one of my favorite Spookston moments. "Oop!"
You should do a video on Japan's incredible 6.3 Point and Click adventure, the Type 75 SPH. Randomly one-shotting a Tiger II with an HE round has to be one of the most satisfying things I've ever gotten to do in this game
Hey I noticed that Command And Conquer Generals USA music boi!!! Haha
“He croshed!” The man in this man voice.
Hey, since you're doing the PTL02, you should maybe make a video about the AMX-10 RC? Its similiar and needs more attention, there's so many variants of the AMX that could be brought into the game so theres lots to talk about
I really really want you to play sweden it would really make my day :)
Makes me want the otomatic even more
Please do a vid on both the ptl and wma they are both basically identical however the wma gets a slightly worse apfsds for the trade off of a tandem atgm and a proxy shell
You should really make a video on the Lansens
On a related note I played the crusader AA MK1 (in arcade, I'm not that skilled) I got 3 kills 2 light tanks and a T-34 1942, it was the best I had done with that vehicle.
Now that both the PTL02 and WMA301 are at 8.3, you might as well make a video with both of them. And yes, the PTL does have 2nd thermals :3
I love how War Thunder is a game where a 57mm shell exploding 5+ meters under an AH-1G is enough to cause a kill but a Type 93 stinger direct impact isn't a guaranteed kill on even an Alouette lmao
Russian based equipment has special modifiers to buff them. Like balans cap and explosive cheese. US stuff gets a lot of bullshit nerfs.
You should play the ozelot and make a compilation of the missile just straight up missing everything you fire at
i was playing with the maus ang got killed by one of those, he hit the side of the turret with an HE at almost 180º (or 90º idk, a regular shell would bounce)
You could make a video on the ADATS M113, I’d love to see a video on that
Play the 9040 series in the swedish tree, the most fun ive had in a while
I use the PTLO2 at 9.7 and it works completely fine lol
No joke, I love to just solo with that spaa, it wrecks really any airplane and you barely have to aim at them
This thing is scary
Could you do a video on the Super Pershing? its probably one of my favorite tanks fueled by myths lies and legends
AAs that are good vs tanks. love it.
And germany has the ozelot. Where the trakking of targets dont work all the time and missiles sometimes cant get fired.
I was looking up asmr and this was like the 7th option
Yes, officer, this player right here.
You're going away for a long time, bucko.
can you look at the Breda 501?, Its extremely undertiered since it got been buffed. I got a 15 and 14 kill game consecutively. Just roll around peeking corners and deleting everything
3:49 play sim as AA. You can clean house pretty well.
I bring the PTL02 with my 11.0 lineup and it does fine surprisingly
Time for some Crusader MkIII action, you can uptier it relatively well too!
Spookston: “This is the most satisfying cas destroyer”
My Wirblewind shooting down about 4, P-47-Ds per game would like a word.
I was wondering if you could play the Ho-Ri.
Not because it’s a relevant vehicle or anything, it just sort of scratches that “no aiming” itch that some of the arty tanks have.
if you know how to lead shots, the wz305 is the most devestating vehicle to both tank and planes. (pls do a video on the ptl02 with the top shell, its quite fun)
Not only does it have stupid darts at 8.0 but also thermals...
BALANS!
Try playing the Leo 2PL but only using the HE shell
I have brung up the ZSU 57 to 9.3 and it performed fine, I have more tank kills than aircraft kills with the ZSU, its very OP
Play a match of each nations reserve vehicles and rank each nation/vehicle(s). Or play a “side by side” game of two similar/same vehicles in different tech trees and compare them and which one you prefer. I know that’s almost approaching vehicle review status but I like hearing your live reasoning on different vehicles and their strengths/weaknesses.
The WZ305 is hands down the best SPAA in the game. The proxy rounds make it so you don't really have to aim. Stuff like the gerard just literally can't compete
2:20 that’s one of those moments where you just look at that beam and think, *FUCK THAT*
please press the recruit crew button , also do a object 120 vid cuz that is also extremely balanced