I don't think what you're hearing with the Metabo is a change in voltage. I'm not really familiar with the tools, but I imagine multi-volt just means it will work with either 18V or 36V, with 36V probably giving a performance advantage. What you are hearing is the triple hammer. When the tool is under a light load the anvil spins at a high rpm and the hammer impacts at every single notch. However, whenever a heavier load is present the anvil will spin much more slowly and cause the hammer to skip a notch before every impact, making it gather a bit more energy before impacting. This leads to a lower ipm under heavier loads but with stronger impacts that are better suited for driving in large fasteners. When you first begin driving in these fasteners the load is light leading to an audibly very high ipm. However, whenever the fasteners are driven in just a bit the load increases and you hear the hammer move into a lower ipm but heavier hitting mode. The motor maintains the same power output as long as the trigger is held though.
It's the battery that changes voltage. Same as the DeWalt flex-volt. The larger batteries have 10 18650 lithium ion cells which are normally connected 5 cells in series and 5 parallel which gives you your 18+ volts plus double the run time of a smaller battery with only 5 cells wired in series. These new batteries have the same 10 cells but the battery has the capability to have all the cells in series which fully charged would give you 40+ volts(4.2 volts per cell fully charged or rated 3.7, which is where metabo gets the 36v.) The DeWalt flex volt has 15 cells and the ability to flex up to 60v. It's a cool idea but if you run 10 cells in series you will have the equivalent run time as a 1.5ah or 2ah 18v
@casey - it doesn’t switch voltage. All you did was describe how it’s wired. Which is that way so an 18 v tool can use it. But a 36 v tool will use all 36 volts of the battery. The battery or tool does NOT do any dynamic switching of voltage.
All 18V. The higher volts ones in theory give a better power delivery system so again in theory should increase longevity but in these tools doesn't increase the power. Think the milwaukee Batteries would have taught people this alone with how they keep increasing their power yet remaining on the same 18V system. They call that milwaukee magic. The metabo HPT TH is a good impact though. Sometimes, you can catch the kit at a great price.
Sorry to sound like a rookie but which one of those is better? And if it's the 36 volt would that have been a better contender against the Milwaukee impact used in this video?
@@niksutherland4280 spec wise there both close in specs.. which one is better is a very open ended question pick the one that is better for you whether it's brand or voltage there all great tools if you need it for wood you can get away with metabo or kobalt or Milwaukee or ridgid or any brand metal same thing it really depends on your needs and the cost point buy what you can afford
@@niksutherland4280 metabo hpt 18v and 36v triple hammer are very close in specs 36v only puts out a few more inch pounds then the 18v so I wouldn't say either are a better contender to the Milwaukee the metabo hpt triple hammers are smooth tools I use them for more precision work and the milwaukee I use for more brute force work if that makes sense
@@niksutherland4280 I would say the M12 Milwaukee or 12v Dewalt xtreme for Commercial and industrial electrical work to be honest more compact and plenty of power for what electricians would need and then you could expand to the m18 or dewalt 20v lines for other tools needed to be honest hope that helps
Take a temperature check-the Metabo HPT will run cooler for longer I have both gen 2 and 3 Milwaukee and the Triple hammer and all are still running strong after 3 yrs-prefer the feel of triple hammer for deck screws bit both are great
Yeah, that's what happens when your motor is weaker. It makes less power and heat. Driving them in with a ratchet and socket would stay nice and cool too.
@@operator8014 That's funny Operator 7 ate nine--Wha't really funny is that my Gen 3 collet can't pull out a fastener cuz it has a faulty collet--both of my Gen 3's have this problem-its also slower than the Triple hammer when driving deck screws and self tappers which is what I use it for the most--I know its hard for some folks to realize that their is a better impact driver for driving screws but it's true-the cooling running due to the 36V battery and motor technology Metabo HPT put into this line has already outlasted one of the gen 3's with similar work--I will continue to use multiple brands and not just be a fanboy with blinders on--I pick the tools that do the best job--plus I will be running my 36V 10" sliding compound mitre saw, Table saw, grinder, recip and any other 36V tool I want long after Milwaukee's 18V's are completely obsolete and unsupported--see ya on the jobsite!
@@baseballdude8491 hell yah man! I like this comment! You kept it intelligent and with out talking crap like the other dude. He came off as an ass I thought..
Flex are nice but a bit bulking for me I like a light and small impact. The 850 and 840 are nice from dewalt but I like the gen 3 and makira xdt16 prob best. Have you tried the makita.
Wait, what makes you think it's switching voltages? Very curious. A change in sound, if that's what you are going off is not indicative of a change in voltage.
So when it first starts to get the screw going it's at a much higher RPM. You can feel it and hear it. That triple hammer is just cooking. Then it slowes down and it sucks, I mean it's ok but I can't wait to get the gen #2. Thanks for watching
@@Impact-OG awww okay got ya question do you know what the new model number is I would like to check out the new model do you know what the old model number is compared to the new one so I know which model to buy ?
Impact driver can drive lag bolts but really even my MIlwaukee Gen 3 gets hot and the one I used mostly larger fasteners burned up from constant use in this manner--(impact drivers are best at deck screws, self tappers and drilling holes)- I use my Milwaukee stubby impact and Makita mid torque for those tasks with much better results
Great comparison Al! As Spencer below mentioned, the Metabo isn't changing voltage, it's changing it's hammering. The sound difference you notice in different modes does a similar thing. The triple hammer is great for smoothness and control of driving in screws, but also has a bit less torque on each impact, so it adjusts with load in the high and assist modes. I have both the triple hammer and the black stealth Metabo impact and both are great. The triple hammer is so much smoother than other impacts. I knew it wouldn't win this speed comparison against the Milwaukee (only possible contender there would be the new DeWalt Flexvolt), but it's smoother and more controllable. It's built quality is so much better also. For the 36V version, there's virtually no difference in performance. The reason for the 36V is for lower current draw from the battery, so it will run cooler and longer on the same battery (and battery will run cooler and have a longer overall life). They didn't design the 36V version to be more powerful. I also have the hammer drill and it's amazing, especially for it's size. I've done 3/4" holes into very well aged concrete!
Spot on answer. The 36 Volt Metabo is built for comfort. Not necessarily speed. The 36 volt metabo hammer drill (non sds) is the best non sds hammer drill I have ever used. Thing is a monster, while feeling very smooth and controlled.
HPT - super duper smooth Unlike anythingelse I've felt. Use it for hours on end, you can really tell the difference in comfort and user fatigue. It's 1 second slower. I'll take that to keep my arms and wrists working for the foreseeable future.
Yes I still have my Octane Hammer drill witch is my favorite, so I will put it up against it, Its hard for me to believe that the new one witch is a orange Milwaukee gen #2 will beat it, I bet it can not!!!! because these new tools don't have more power there just putting out crappy tools to make more money.
I have the 18v triplehammer. It does the same thing, very inconsistent. Driving a lag, one time is lightning quick, next time it's just adequate. Almost like something is wrong in their electronics.
@@Impact-OG it's the new battery tech that allows it to decide how many of the 10 cells to run in series or parallel. All in series is 36v(40v+ fully charged) and half in parallel is 18v(20v+ fully charged). Each 18650 cell is usually 3.6v sometimes 3.7 and will charge up to 4.2v
18v and 20v batteries are exactly the same. An 18v battery fully charged Is 20+v. But 20v sounds better for marketing. An 18650 L ion cell will say 3.6v on the labeling (3.6x5=18) but 4.2x5=21... 20v
Same! I know he doesn't think their impact driver can outperform Milwaukee's, but I think it could easily do just that if they want it to. These Flex tools will be made by Chervon, the same company that makes Ego, Skil, and Kobalt power tools. Given that Flex should be a good step above the Kobalt XTR driver, which is almost equal to the Milwaukee in terms of power, I think they could easily outdo Milwaukee here. Whether or not they need to is another story. If impact drivers keep getting more and more powerful a 1/4 inch hex will not suffice. Bosch Freak style anvils will be a must for impact drivers of that caliber.
The triple hammer beats everything out there except the Gen 3 Milwaukee. Ours seems to stay in that fast mode you are hearing. Our triple hammer seems faster than the one you have. weird.
It’s not changing from 36v to 18v. The battery is multivolt because it’s backwards compatible so it works with both the 36v tools and the 18v tools so if it’s 4ah 36v then it will give you 8ah on a 18v tool. The 36v tools are multi volt because you can run them on 36v dc or 120v ac with the ac adaptor. Also, where metabo HPT lacks in speed, it makes up for in durability. I’d like to see that Milwaukee hold up to getting wet on a job site. They have videos of the metabo’s with the ip56 getting dunked in a bucket of water. How about instead of a speed test, do a durability test and see which tool can hold up the longest
Milwaukee bare tool $129.99 at home depot and the triple hammer is $299 for the kit and you can find just the impact for under $100 bucks on Ebay. Thanks for watching
There is nothing SLOW about that Triple Hammer lol. It's hanging with that G3, beaten by a second or less. And it's many years older design. The new 36DC is out now, I have reviewed it. It is a great little Driver.
No matter what people get, both of these will get the job done…. But I wish someone would test like 3-4 impact drills on a job… like go screw a couple hundred screws on a metal roof that’s getting done, see how hot they get and other stuff. After nonstop putting screws for an hour on a roof I’d love to see if they got as hot as our Bosch tools.
I didn't want this to go the way it did. I've always had Milwaukee and now I'm on a conquest to find a different brand that performs better. I'm an electrician and literally all of us use Milwaukee; DeWalt is taboo in our trade. You did a great job on this video, sad to see metabo could not stand up to milwaukee. Had my money on it
There is a Gen # 3 Metabo Impact driver that I really want to try out. but I have to order it from Japan and its around $200. If you go on Ebay you will find it. It has much high RPM and IPM.
@@zerodpi671 hold on. I was not! So this isn’t really the metabo we are all thinking it is? Like for real?? Dam thats crazy if that’s true. Like they are using that name and it worked for me cuz I’ve always herd that metabo was the best but its just another company kinda copying that name?? I hope your just messing with us.. wow if thats true
had thm both - m18 vry powerfull but xtreemly loud n hard on hand long term use - kept M/hpt less noise n lighter wen used wit e amp battey better for sholder or overhead work - for below sholder wen need power n comfort uzing m18 surge wit 2amp/3amp HO - freekn milwaukee weerz the 4amp comp HO - we want it now thz is USA
Yeah the gen # 2 just became available on amazon. I have been watching it on E-Bay for the last year and half but I don't want to wait a month on shipping from Japan. But I will be picking one up shorty, If you can go to my home page and vote on with Impact driver you would like to see next. I have a pole on there. And these tools are crazy expensive and i buy all my own tools. If you want to watch a corporate shill go watch VCG. But thanks for watching man I do appreciate it :)
@@Impact-OG I meant the gen2 fuel, which was around when the triple hammer came out(2015-2016ish) However, if you're in the US, you can get that newer Hikoki in 7-15 days, probably about 10 days. If the seller ships it immediately, you can get it even sooner. And they get all the different color choices over there, so it's kind of a novelty to have one.
They have it kick down because running all 10 cells in series would give you half the run time of a battery with half the cells in series and half in parallel. Series doubles the volts and parallel doubles the run time. If you have a 4ah battery with 10 cells and you have the same battery and cells that can double the volts you would basically have a 2ah battery but more volts. ITS A MARKETING SCAM!
THE reason the 18v is comparable to the 36v is because it's the same exact battery and same amount of cells they just found a way to take the same exact battery put a chip in it to where it can use all cells in series for 2 or 3 seconds then switch to half in series half parallel. So basically they stuck In a 50 cent chip and put 36v or 40v on the side and doubled the price.... For the same exact battery as the 18v
I don't know about you but 99.99% of the people in the world have a lot more control and certain amount percentage more with their dominant arm than they do the other so any wrench in your dominant hand is going to have a pretty good
Yeah the 36V Metabo HPT/Hikoki is great in the jobsite-its held up for over 3 yrs and has outperformed my Milwaukee and Makita hammer drills in most applications
Lol he keeps saying why is it not staying in 36 volt mode dude its a multivolt battery not tool its a 18 volt tool if you wanted 36 volt buy the 36 volt unit . Same battery the only difference is the 4amp multi volt will be a 8 amp unit on a 18 volt tool and will just be a 4 amp on the 36 volt tool . One thing he did not test is put them in a bucket of water then use them only the Metaboo hpt is waterproof .
You should get some information about the tools before you make video about it, not only those written on the box... Hikoki is not changing any voltage, it is the triple hammer feature... I can tell that you wanted Hikoki to win as u've used small battery on Milwaukee and 4 amps on hikoki which is not part of standard package.... The confidence just because u have youtube channel is just sad
Ok there Mr. Epert!!! So how do you know what batterys came in my tool kit?? Why dont you go watch someone else because everything you said is bullshit, yes I miss spoke about the voltage thing that was a mistake but nothing else. And yes I wanted the hikoki to win because no impact driver can beat the Milwaukee. And it won in this video. I am waiting for some company to make a more powerful impact..
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Lmao....good thing I watched this video. I bought one of these things as a quick cheap replacement to my Dewalt that just took a dump and I was thinking damn this thing is weak af....then I saw where you could change the voltage. Feeling better about this purchase. I don't need it to be fast, I just need it to work.
See how the Milwaukee on the back out just zipped. Lmao. That's a pre drill. Hitachi now matabo are industry grade. Dewalt and Milwaukee are not industrial grade. They don't compare.
I know, But I am talking about the speed testing I do, Its for fun and I have said in past videos that the Milwaukee is not my favorite or go to impact. Thanks for watching
The Metabo HPT Triple hammer is faster, has more settings and drives screws ad self tappers much better than my Gen 3 Milwaukee--just facts--I have 2 Gen 3's and an 18V and 36V triple hammer(both do those tasks better than red) I'm not a fanboy for either-just making a living with my tools so I use what is best for job
ok maybe but the gen 3 definitely dint have Problems (beside some have collet issue) but as far as still working seems like it's pretty good what would you say makes one better then other then? this obviously a speed comparison if a BMW wins a race with a Honda did the Honda still win cuz it will last longer? I mean unless you going by something else
I don't think what you're hearing with the Metabo is a change in voltage. I'm not really familiar with the tools, but I imagine multi-volt just means it will work with either 18V or 36V, with 36V probably giving a performance advantage.
What you are hearing is the triple hammer. When the tool is under a light load the anvil spins at a high rpm and the hammer impacts at every single notch. However, whenever a heavier load is present the anvil will spin much more slowly and cause the hammer to skip a notch before every impact, making it gather a bit more energy before impacting. This leads to a lower ipm under heavier loads but with stronger impacts that are better suited for driving in large fasteners.
When you first begin driving in these fasteners the load is light leading to an audibly very high ipm. However, whenever the fasteners are driven in just a bit the load increases and you hear the hammer move into a lower ipm but heavier hitting mode. The motor maintains the same power output as long as the trigger is held though.
Yes
It's the battery that changes voltage. Same as the DeWalt flex-volt. The larger batteries have 10 18650 lithium ion cells which are normally connected 5 cells in series and 5 parallel which gives you your 18+ volts plus double the run time of a smaller battery with only 5 cells wired in series. These new batteries have the same 10 cells but the battery has the capability to have all the cells in series which fully charged would give you 40+ volts(4.2 volts per cell fully charged or rated 3.7, which is where metabo gets the 36v.) The DeWalt flex volt has 15 cells and the ability to flex up to 60v. It's a cool idea but if you run 10 cells in series you will have the equivalent run time as a 1.5ah or 2ah 18v
@casey - it doesn’t switch voltage. All you did was describe how it’s wired. Which is that way so an 18 v tool can use it. But a 36 v tool will use all 36 volts of the battery. The battery or tool does NOT do any dynamic switching of voltage.
All 18V. The higher volts ones in theory give a better power delivery system so again in theory should increase longevity but in these tools doesn't increase the power. Think the milwaukee Batteries would have taught people this alone with how they keep increasing their power yet remaining on the same 18V system. They call that milwaukee magic.
The metabo HPT TH is a good impact though. Sometimes, you can catch the kit at a great price.
It's the Metabo multivolt battery that switches automatically depending on tool rating if its 18 or 36v. The tool itself has fixed rated voltage.
I would love to see the metabo hpt 18v triple hammer vs the Metabo hpt 36v triple hammer
Sorry to sound like a rookie but which one of those is better? And if it's the 36 volt would that have been a better contender against the Milwaukee impact used in this video?
@@niksutherland4280 spec wise there both close in specs.. which one is better is a very open ended question pick the one that is better for you whether it's brand or voltage there all great tools if you need it for wood you can get away with metabo or kobalt or Milwaukee or ridgid or any brand metal same thing it really depends on your needs and the cost point buy what you can afford
@@niksutherland4280 metabo hpt 18v and 36v triple hammer are very close in specs 36v only puts out a few more inch pounds then the 18v so I wouldn't say either are a better contender to the Milwaukee the metabo hpt triple hammers are smooth tools I use them for more precision work and the milwaukee I use for more brute force work if that makes sense
@@AntonioClaudioMichael it really does my appreciate your reply, which would be your choice for commercial and industrial electrical work?
@@niksutherland4280 I would say the M12 Milwaukee or 12v Dewalt xtreme for Commercial and industrial electrical work to be honest more compact and plenty of power for what electricians would need and then you could expand to the m18 or dewalt 20v lines for other tools needed to be honest hope that helps
love the side by side format. thanks for the video!
Yeah man no problem, thanks for watching
Take a temperature check-the Metabo HPT will run cooler for longer
I have both gen 2 and 3 Milwaukee and the Triple hammer and all are still running strong after 3 yrs-prefer the feel of triple hammer for deck screws bit both are great
Yeah, that's what happens when your motor is weaker. It makes less power and heat.
Driving them in with a ratchet and socket would stay nice and cool too.
@@operator8014 That's funny Operator 7 ate nine--Wha't really funny is that my Gen 3 collet can't pull out a fastener cuz it has a faulty collet--both of my Gen 3's have this problem-its also slower than the Triple hammer when driving deck screws and self tappers which is what I use it for the most--I know its hard for some folks to realize that their is a better impact driver for driving screws but it's true-the cooling running due to the 36V battery and motor technology Metabo HPT put into this line has already outlasted one of the gen 3's with similar work--I will continue to use multiple brands and not just be a fanboy with blinders on--I pick the tools that do the best job--plus I will be running my 36V 10" sliding compound mitre saw, Table saw, grinder, recip and any other 36V tool I want long after Milwaukee's 18V's are completely obsolete and unsupported--see ya on the jobsite!
@@baseballdude8491 hell yah man! I like this comment! You kept it intelligent and with out talking crap like the other dude. He came off as an ass I thought..
@@baseballdude8491 “yah thats what happens when”.. that was smart ass written all over it. Deff sounds like a fanboy
In wonder if the new flex would be a match for the fuel.
We will find out, I mean it looks just like it lol!!
Flex are nice but a bit bulking for me I like a light and small impact. The 850 and 840 are nice from dewalt but I like the gen 3 and makira xdt16 prob best. Have you tried the makita.
After use both of them for 5 years which one still working the same when they was new
It's driving me crazy that I can't find the C version in the US for the impact driver by Metabo. Looks like it's still Hikoki only.
Yep, I really want to order the new gen#2 but I don't want to wait 6 months. Thanks for watching
Wait, what makes you think it's switching voltages? Very curious. A change in sound, if that's what you are going off is not indicative of a change in voltage.
So my first question is do you have one?? then we will go from there.
@@Impact-OG I don't have one. My point still stands however.
@@Impact-OG unnecessarily arrogant response. His question is legitimate without having to own one
Yeah is he measuring the voltage, nah.
You keep mentioning you wish it would stay in 36 mode what do you mean
So when it first starts to get the screw going it's at a much higher RPM. You can feel it and hear it. That triple hammer is just cooking. Then it slowes down and it sucks, I mean it's ok but I can't wait to get the gen #2.
Thanks for watching
@@Impact-OG awww okay got ya question do you know what the new model number is I would like to check out the new model do you know what the old model number is compared to the new one so I know which model to buy ?
Impact driver can drive lag bolts but really even my MIlwaukee Gen 3 gets hot and the one I used mostly larger fasteners burned up from constant use in this manner--(impact drivers are best at deck screws, self tappers and drilling holes)- I use my Milwaukee stubby impact and Makita mid torque for those tasks with much better results
Great comparison Al! As Spencer below mentioned, the Metabo isn't changing voltage, it's changing it's hammering. The sound difference you notice in different modes does a similar thing. The triple hammer is great for smoothness and control of driving in screws, but also has a bit less torque on each impact, so it adjusts with load in the high and assist modes.
I have both the triple hammer and the black stealth Metabo impact and both are great. The triple hammer is so much smoother than other impacts. I knew it wouldn't win this speed comparison against the Milwaukee (only possible contender there would be the new DeWalt Flexvolt), but it's smoother and more controllable. It's built quality is so much better also.
For the 36V version, there's virtually no difference in performance. The reason for the 36V is for lower current draw from the battery, so it will run cooler and longer on the same battery (and battery will run cooler and have a longer overall life). They didn't design the 36V version to be more powerful.
I also have the hammer drill and it's amazing, especially for it's size. I've done 3/4" holes into very well aged concrete!
Spot on answer. The 36 Volt Metabo is built for comfort. Not necessarily speed. The 36 volt metabo hammer drill (non sds) is the best non sds hammer drill I have ever used. Thing is a monster, while feeling very smooth and controlled.
@@gerryrbrooks972 heck yah man! Mine is coming in the mail!! What is sds? Im curious
HPT - super duper smooth
Unlike anythingelse I've felt. Use it for hours on end, you can really tell the difference in comfort and user fatigue.
It's 1 second slower. I'll take that to keep my arms and wrists working for the foreseeable future.
Thanks for watching
My hpt is on its. I have the M18 surge and that's super smooth and quiet till you make it struggle.
The battle was awesome 😎 thank you for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Of you can in the future when it comes out can you test the new ridgid hammer drill high output batteries and the impact driver
Yes I still have my Octane Hammer drill witch is my favorite, so I will put it up against it, Its hard for me to believe that the new one witch is a orange Milwaukee gen #2 will beat it, I bet it can not!!!! because these new tools don't have more power there just putting out crappy tools to make more money.
@@Impact-OG you don't have to run a test like that I am just asking I enjoy your channel
You tried the ryobi brushless 3 speed impact? The old one not the hp version
Yes I sure have tested it against almost every other impact there is, here check out this video..
th-cam.com/video/IvyBOwYR3mw/w-d-xo.html
I have the 18v triplehammer. It does the same thing, very inconsistent. Driving a lag, one time is lightning quick, next time it's just adequate. Almost like something is wrong in their electronics.
Yes exactly, I cant wait to get my hands on the new gen #2 hopefully it's fixed in that one.
Thanks for watching
@@Impact-OG it's the new battery tech that allows it to decide how many of the 10 cells to run in series or parallel. All in series is 36v(40v+ fully charged) and half in parallel is 18v(20v+ fully charged). Each 18650 cell is usually 3.6v sometimes 3.7 and will charge up to 4.2v
18v and 20v batteries are exactly the same. An 18v battery fully charged Is 20+v. But 20v sounds better for marketing. An 18650 L ion cell will say 3.6v on the labeling (3.6x5=18) but 4.2x5=21... 20v
@@caseymoore9737 Yes! That is 100% true! 20v is MAX and 18v is constant. They're both the exact same thing
I want to see those new Flex tools
Same! I know he doesn't think their impact driver can outperform Milwaukee's, but I think it could easily do just that if they want it to. These Flex tools will be made by Chervon, the same company that makes Ego, Skil, and Kobalt power tools. Given that Flex should be a good step above the Kobalt XTR driver, which is almost equal to the Milwaukee in terms of power, I think they could easily outdo Milwaukee here. Whether or not they need to is another story. If impact drivers keep getting more and more powerful a 1/4 inch hex will not suffice. Bosch Freak style anvils will be a must for impact drivers of that caliber.
Yeah for sure, I plan on picking up one or if not a couple when they come out and I will let you know what I think.
Thanks for watching
No turn over on the hammer drill or the black impact but the power on the impact is way better with the 36v batteries u can hear the difference 💯
The triple hammer beats everything out there except the Gen 3 Milwaukee. Ours seems to stay in that fast mode you are hearing. Our triple hammer seems faster than the one you have. weird.
I don’t think the voltage has anything to do with the actual RPM or torque. 18v vs 36v just translates to the storage capacity of energy/electricity
What is the msrp for both?
Milwaukee is $129 at home depot bare tool, and you can get the Trippel hammer at Lowes for $99- 129 bare tool, so about the same.
Thanks for watching
It’s not changing from 36v to 18v. The battery is multivolt because it’s backwards compatible so it works with both the 36v tools and the 18v tools so if it’s 4ah 36v then it will give you 8ah on a 18v tool. The 36v tools are multi volt because you can run them on 36v dc or 120v ac with the ac adaptor. Also, where metabo HPT lacks in speed, it makes up for in durability. I’d like to see that Milwaukee hold up to getting wet on a job site. They have videos of the metabo’s with the ip56 getting dunked in a bucket of water. How about instead of a speed test, do a durability test and see which tool can hold up the longest
Yes you are right I miss spoke. Thanks for watching man
I have both..I love metabo tripple hammer a little better
Take out the high output battery . Use a regular battery
Right the Milwaukee still smokes it.
Disappointed that you didn’t give the price for each of the tools.
Milwaukee bare tool $129.99 at home depot and the triple hammer is $299 for the kit and you can find just the impact for under $100 bucks on Ebay.
Thanks for watching
I hate to disrespect Milwaukee and Ridgid, but I think I have to look for a deal on the Metabo or Flex.
There is nothing SLOW about that Triple Hammer lol. It's hanging with that G3, beaten by a second or less. And it's many years older design. The new 36DC is out now, I have reviewed it. It is a great little Driver.
No matter what people get, both of these will get the job done…. But I wish someone would test like 3-4 impact drills on a job… like go screw a couple hundred screws on a metal roof that’s getting done, see how hot they get and other stuff. After nonstop putting screws for an hour on a roof I’d love to see if they got as hot as our Bosch tools.
How about the Milwaukee gen3 chuck no issue or problem at all?
Nope this is my second one, my first one I destroyed and yes the collet didn't work worth a shit
@@Impact-OG does your new Fuel have 2 ball bearings in the collet are just one? The newest version has 2 ball bearings
Metabo HTP triple hammer for the WIN!!!!
It's hard to believe that he's not being one sided when he obviously has a favorite tool brand
Thats not 36/18 mode…. Its the triple hammer mode… internally working to provide higher torque… less hp… like downshifting.
The 18v triple hammer isn’t much different than the 36v.. for the price, it blows the gen 3 fuel out of the water imo
I didn't want this to go the way it did. I've always had Milwaukee and now I'm on a conquest to find a different brand that performs better. I'm an electrician and literally all of us use Milwaukee; DeWalt is taboo in our trade. You did a great job on this video, sad to see metabo could not stand up to milwaukee. Had my money on it
There is a Gen # 3 Metabo Impact driver that I really want to try out. but I have to order it from Japan and its around $200. If you go on Ebay you will find it. It has much high RPM and IPM.
It’s not actually a Metabo it’s a Hikoki ( Hitachi) product. A Metabo would eat these anyway.
@@likasumbooodi metabohpt is hikoki. Metabo from Germany is a completely different market and company
@@zerodpi671 well aware of that. Cheers
@@zerodpi671 hold on. I was not! So this isn’t really the metabo we are all thinking it is? Like for real?? Dam thats crazy if that’s true. Like they are using that name and it worked for me cuz I’ve always herd that metabo was the best but its just another company kinda copying that name?? I hope your just messing with us.. wow if thats true
Awesome video
Thanks man 😁😁
For the test you should put both in a bucket of water then use them
They wired this Metabo 18v model as a fixed 18v because it has a lifetime warranty and they'd like you not to burn it out too quickly
had thm both - m18 vry powerfull but xtreemly loud n hard on hand long term use - kept M/hpt less noise n lighter wen used wit e amp battey better for sholder or overhead work - for below sholder wen need power n comfort uzing m18 surge wit 2amp/3amp HO - freekn milwaukee weerz the 4amp comp HO - we want it now thz is USA
Yeah man I am glade you liked it, I just wish there was a smaller 36V battery, a slim pack but no just the 2 large pack.
It’s slightly slower but is so much smoother and will outlast most other brands
Love my hpt.
Your 8" lags are way too long for that 4"x 6". They are going right through it with no resistance for the last 2 1/2" inches.
Yes for one test, then I doubled it up, so it was 12 inch deep or long how ever you look at it.
Thanks for watching man
The Hitachi is 5 years old. You should compare it to a gen1 or 2 to be fair.
Yeah the gen # 2 just became available on amazon. I have been watching it on E-Bay for the last year and half but I don't want to wait a month on shipping from Japan. But I will be picking one up shorty, If you can go to my home page and vote on with Impact driver you would like to see next. I have a pole on there. And these tools are crazy expensive and i buy all my own tools. If you want to watch a corporate shill go watch VCG.
But thanks for watching man I do appreciate it :)
@@Impact-OG I meant the gen2 fuel, which was around when the triple hammer came out(2015-2016ish)
However, if you're in the US, you can get that newer Hikoki in 7-15 days, probably about 10 days. If the seller ships it immediately, you can get it even sooner. And they get all the different color choices over there, so it's kind of a novelty to have one.
The flex does the same thing as the metabo. It lowers the power when the struggle is real
Yeah I was going to do a flex video, but everyone and there mom made a video on them. I just wasn't impressed by them.
@@Impact-OG it's actually more powerful than the gen 3, but I broke one on day 1
They have it kick down because running all 10 cells in series would give you half the run time of a battery with half the cells in series and half in parallel. Series doubles the volts and parallel doubles the run time. If you have a 4ah battery with 10 cells and you have the same battery and cells that can double the volts you would basically have a 2ah battery but more volts. ITS A MARKETING SCAM!
THE reason the 18v is comparable to the 36v is because it's the same exact battery and same amount of cells they just found a way to take the same exact battery put a chip in it to where it can use all cells in series for 2 or 3 seconds then switch to half in series half parallel. So basically they stuck In a 50 cent chip and put 36v or 40v on the side and doubled the price.... For the same exact battery as the 18v
Milwaukee produces good plastic boxes :D Metabo produces great power tools!
You should test Hiltivs Milwuakee.
I don't know about you but 99.99% of the people in the world have a lot more control and certain amount percentage more with their dominant arm than they do the other so any wrench in your dominant hand is going to have a pretty good
Interesting video nice head to head
The Milwaukee machine is absolute garbage
I just bought the METABO IT'S NOT BAD THE HAMMER DRILL IS A MONSTER 💯
Yeah thats what I here, got wait to see if I get any stimulation Money hahahaha
Yeah the 36V Metabo HPT/Hikoki is great in the jobsite-its held up for over 3 yrs and has outperformed my Milwaukee and Makita hammer drills in most applications
Cool!
Thanks buddy
Try the kobal xtr
I have it, it today is the closes one to almost beat the Milwaukee, check out link below
th-cam.com/video/604Z5zUA-98/w-d-xo.html
Ok will watch now thanks
@@dannyramos3323 Thanks man
Lol he keeps saying why is it not staying in 36 volt mode dude its a multivolt battery not tool its a 18 volt tool if you wanted 36 volt buy the 36 volt unit . Same battery the only difference is the 4amp
multi volt will be a 8 amp unit on a 18 volt tool and will just be a 4 amp on the 36 volt tool . One thing he did not test is put them in a bucket of water then use them only the Metaboo hpt is waterproof .
You should get some information about the tools before you make video about it, not only those written on the box... Hikoki is not changing any voltage, it is the triple hammer feature... I can tell that you wanted Hikoki to win as u've used small battery on Milwaukee and 4 amps on hikoki which is not part of standard package.... The confidence just because u have youtube channel is just sad
Ok there Mr. Epert!!! So how do you know what batterys came in my tool kit?? Why dont you go watch someone else because everything you said is bullshit, yes I miss spoke about the voltage thing that was a mistake but nothing else.
And yes I wanted the hikoki to win because no impact driver can beat the Milwaukee. And it won in this video. I am waiting for some company to make a more powerful impact..
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
You are right you can hear it like its going from 36 volt power to bam 18 volt power
RIDGID stealth didn't do bad against the gen 3
Right I feel that it's the most under rated impact out there. I really like mine!!!!
metabo=hikoki ?
Ne, hikoki je bolji 30%
Don't care what ones faster care about what one can take more abuse and wear and tear and keep going
Lmao....good thing I watched this video. I bought one of these things as a quick cheap replacement to my Dewalt that just took a dump and I was thinking damn this thing is weak af....then I saw where you could change the voltage. Feeling better about this purchase. I don't need it to be fast, I just need it to work.
The milwaukee is like 80% the weight, half the price, twice the power, come on... What is this green trash?
Right I was Very disappointed with this Multi Volt crap, thanks for watching
The HPT is by far better
Metabo all the way. just better quality
miwaukee is to hard to beat
See how the Milwaukee on the back out just zipped. Lmao. That's a pre drill. Hitachi now matabo are industry grade. Dewalt and Milwaukee are not industrial grade. They don't compare.
King..lol
Just because its geared to be a little faster,. Doesn't make it a better tool...
I know, But I am talking about the speed testing I do, Its for fun and I have said in past videos that the Milwaukee is not my favorite or go to impact.
Thanks for watching
The Metabo HPT Triple hammer is faster, has more settings and drives screws ad self tappers much better than my Gen 3 Milwaukee--just facts--I have 2 Gen 3's and an 18V and 36V triple hammer(both do those tasks better than red) I'm not a fanboy for either-just making a living with my tools so I use what is best for job
@@Impact-OG what is your favorite impact driver?
@@baseballdude8491 what you mean by better?
ok maybe but the gen 3 definitely dint have Problems (beside some have collet issue) but as far as still working seems like it's pretty good what would you say makes one better then other then? this obviously a speed comparison if a BMW wins a race with a Honda did the Honda still win cuz it will last longer? I mean unless you going by something else
I like metabo
Need tools too last
Stop...perk up.... drink some coffee.
I will, Thanks for watching.
Should have stopped talking from the beginning.
Oh hahahahaha MR. Perfect.