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Hi, this is Tony Jay’s niece. Loved this video! Fun fact: my uncle couldn’t initially reach that big final note of Hellfire and asked to have the key lowered. Alan Menken refused and so Tony had to take voice lessons until he could reach it!
Hey Nat, it's funny seeing you here! I just wanted to say that I love your Uncle's phenomenal deep voice, AND I also enjoy listening to YOUR music as well. I guess great talent runs in the Jay family. :)
No offense at all to your uncle, but I’m glad Alan Menken refused to change the key and thus he had to work at it to give us (as the Critic pointed out) hands down, the BEST Disney villain song.
Quinntus79 He’s very complex in the sense that he’s a fully rounded character, showcasing typical villainous traits like anger, prejudice, and hate, but also shame, and fear. You understand his motivations completely.
I was like: yeeep. true. no so harsh as a sex-symbol. But my favourite character from Disney for sure. Read some good (not smut, just good fanfiction bout him) Sadly in Englisch there is mostly smut. But I really love everything in him. (okay, almost everything. a little more depth will be better. but I can do it in ff, so no problem with this.)
Art is art....were it not for painters, artists, the original handdrawn, the computer animation wouldn't exist. As Disney animation said in the trailer for Princess and The frog. handdrawn is a legacy that brings the characters to life. They've always looked like a moving storybook to me. Hence the book entrances.
It might just be me, but I think Hellfire is improved by having Heaven's Light beforehand. Two men, professing their love for a woman on the same night at the same time, but both approaching it from the complete opposite ends of the spectrum. And sure, Quasimodo's section of the song isn't quite as compelling since it basically amounts to "I feel like I finally found someone who appreciates me", but I think his stark innocence and naivete juxtaposed against Frollo's insatiable lust and violent possessiveness help make the latter song much more striking.
Honestly, "Heaven's Light" is one of my favorite moments in the whole movie, and without it, "Hellfire" wouldn't be nearly as meaningful as it is. I mean, there's a REASON that the official track is listed as "Heaven's Light/Hellfire" on the soundtrack. They're ONE song. It's also the reason that neither of them "get the girl": Quasi sees Esmeralda as an Angel, an absolutely perfect being that he's put on a pedestal high above himself. Frollo sees her as a Demon, an evil being of pure wickedness and corruption. It's literally the song version of the Madonna-Whore Complex, and it's done beautifully. But it also hammers home why she ends up with Phoebus - he's the only one who sees her as an actual person, who is able to meet her on equal footing both physically, mentally, and in their values. They are both able to hold their own against each other, and their values align in standing up for people who are suffering abuses of power (Phoebus intervening against the guards to help her at the beginning/Esmeralda intervening to help Quasimodo, Phoebus saving the family from the burning house/Esmeralda saving Phoebus when he's attacked.) Quasi's arc is about loving himself, so he doesn't need to "get" this Angelic Woman that he's fantasizing about. His arc is that he realizes that she's NOT on a pedestal above him because he's NOT worthless and unlovable as he's been taught to believe. He can bow out gracefully because he can recognize that Phoebus is her equal, but that doesn't mean that they're BETTER than him. TL;DR - "Heaven's Light" is totally essential to the philosophical dichotomy of "Hellfire", to the Frollo/Quasi/Phoebus romantic dynamic, and to Quasi's character arc. Super underrated, don't do "Heaven's Light" dirty like that, Critic.
I totally agree. The point of Heaven's Light was to contrast and complement Hellfire, along with the hero and villain and the way their feelings towards Esmeralda manifest. That's why they're talking Heaven and Hell.
Frollo’s death is so fitting because the reason why we decorate church and cathedrals with gargoyles is because they scare away evil spirits. So when he said said that final line and the gargoyle scares him before falling to his death holds more meaning. The gargoyle scared the wicked so badly that he returned to hell where he belonged.
Which kinda makes the line from the beginning of the movie where Frollo is about to drown Quasimodo, “This is an unholy demon. I’m sending it back to hell where it belongs” a little disturbing.
I give just a slight edge to CoL but otherwise I agree. Bells of Notre Dame is a musical masterpiece. Another reason to check out the stage musical version is the epic soundtrack.
That is why I love the film so much. The attention to detail and the effort they put into these films just amazes me. Aaaaaaaand that is why I am a hardcore Disney Stan.
Kirrily Joy dude, legit; The Lion King *literally* saved my life. I was born with right-sided heart failure, and after my first surgery, the doctors said I couldn’t cry too hard or my heart could give out. The only thing that kept me from crying was The Lion King (and Elton John’s music), so if it weren’t for that movie, I wouldn’t be here today. I’ve literally been a Disney Stan my whole life 😅❤️
B Fowl um, no, they adapted Quasimodo’s looks from how he was described in the book & various artworks depicting him. Wtf is your problem? Don’t bring that childish sh*t here.
Fun fact: The Disney Executives intentionally made Frollo as evil as possible. In order to get rid of the whole "Evil is cool" schtick with Disney Villains which was circulating
And JUDGING from the audience reactions (hehehehe) it didn’t work out the way they intended to, NC himself has highlighted that fact already in the early part of the video
Kind of ironic, then, that one of Disney's most hilarious and most likable villains came out the very next year after this movie (Hades in "Hercules").
@@carlottarobbins7005 Which is believe it or not, Disney’s own acknowledgment 😓 that their intentions regarding Judge Frollo DIDN’T work out the way they wanted to. The Proof of the matter is in the form of Memes using the character, a shit ton of fan work that sexualizes the “creepy old pervert” (haha that reminded me of the term “Pervy Sage”) and he’s got some fan girls called “Frollophiles”, a shit ton of fan work that pairs Frollo with Esmeralda together (there’s a very good one that’s called “Quando Judex est Venturus” it’s a fan comic), and last but not the least, a parody series called “The Frollo Show” Yeah what an internet sensation, that Judge Trollo, also, Frollololololololololololol and Trollololololololololololololol
Hunchback: an ugly dude and a horny old man Black Cauldeon: HORDES OF THE UNDEAD, FOGGY HORRIBLE CASSTLE, AN ELDRICH EVIL ARTIFACT, A DEVILISH LICH HELLBENT ON TAKING OVER THE WORLD.and that gurgy thing! Black Cauldron is darker. Period.
Well, since The Black Cauldron had a explicit death scene by melting flesh to bone but not added to final release of the movie, HoND could hand that title with Hellfire song sequence.
Hellfire through and through is a masterpiece, but the best part is when the guard arrives to tell Frollo Esmeralda escaped. The color of the room goes from red to a calming blue, until Frollo scorns the guard and sends him away. The color then turns back to a deep red. It's as if God or Jesus Himself is reaching to Frollo, trying to lead him away from temptation, but Frollo has fallen too far from grace. He has damned himself
If you notice too, Frollo was praying to rid himself of the obsession with Esmerlda, and then the guard arrived to say she's gone. He was just to blind to see the salvation and it consumed him until death
For the record- frollo being sexy is the grossest thing I’ve ever heard He’s the only Disney villain I’ve ever truly been afraid of because he’s so realistic and I’ve been felt up by plenty of guys just like him
Makes no sense to me either, I mean I like Yzma(emperor's new groove) as a comedic, yet still intimidating, villainous character, But I DEFINITELY wouldn't fuck that!
I do wish Disney had had the guts to give this film the Prince of Egypt treatment. No comic relief gargoyles, just a beautiful new setting of a classic story.
I think you're forgetting the Prince of Egypt had the same issues with tonal backlash. I mean the two priests are the gargoyles of that movie. Their designs are really campy compared to other characters and their musical number, albeit an amazing score, is still kinda corny. Credit where it's due, they have less screen time than the gargoyles, but you can still see the studio also was struggling to balance light kid friendly content with a story literally involving genocide.
@@javierganzarain4559 Yes, DW couldn’t resist attempting to add comic relief, but it’s really just that one scene. Moses doesn’t have a sassy pet scorpion or anything. Furthermore, it wasn’t tonal backlash. Pharaoh’s magicians are shown to be just that - stage magicians, with all the camp of a Vegas show. They can’t actually do magic because their gods aren’t real and/or can’t compete with Yahweh. Instead they rely on flash and sleight of hand. Of course they’re over the top! I hope you’re not arguing that humor has no place in art with a serious message. Look at Cabaret. Look at Life is Beautiful. Look at… some other poignant film NOT involving Nazis… (brainfart). Take away the gargoyles, but leave Clopin, and Hunchback could fall into this same category. Les Miserables has the Thenardiers. Hunger Games has those (campy!) commentators. I think the thing all these effective “comic” characters have in common is some motivation other than simply wanting to further the interests of the protagonist. They have lives of their own and their own part to play in the story. Do the gargoyles? No. Does Flounder or Scuttle? No. Does Abu? No. Does any other comic Disney sidekick? No. But do the magicians in Prince of Egypt? Yes. They do more than simply allow the protagonist to voice his/her thoughts while providing jokey feedback and commentary. They actively hinder Moses, and use their campy flare to do it! It all works, and the tonal contrast robs the Passover tale of none of its potency.
Yeah the gargoyles felt kinda out of place here, i don't mind some comic relief but this is a pretty dark story and most of the comedy just felt forced then again i think Hunchback is not the first thing you would think of when it comes to Disney adaptations
Perfect casting for Moses in a live action Prince of Egypt would be Israeli Actor Aviv Alush. And rest of the Hebrew slave cast should be Israelis and should act their roles with their Hebrew accents buy the background chatter should be in Hebrew.
Talks about drowning a baby on screen, but doesn't talk about literally seeing a woman get her neck and or back snapped and dying instantly on screen. *Disney theme and logo*
@@CompletelyNewguy Your comment just made me realize Esme's mom from the book might have been replaced by Quasi's mom in this adaptation. Esme's mom, Paquette, dies at the end of the novel - Quasi' dies at the begining. Paquette dies trying to protect her daughter from lawmen like Frollo. She is also holding her child, the guards kick her away violently, she hits her head on stone and dies instantly. Frollo took part on both tragedies since he was the one that lead the guards towards Esmeralda in the book. Curiously, Esme and Quasi swift moms within the story. The gypsies have stolen little Esme from Paquette while she was away from home and left baby Quasimodo in her place. He is abandoned by the heartbroken mother right away. Quasi was gypsy by birth and Esme was raised by them.
It's really a shame that everyone skips Heaven's Light, because it really is one of the most beautiful songs in the movie, even if it's only around a minute long. It's the most underrated Disney song in my opinion.
And it's also opposite tone with "Hellfire," both lyrically and musically. Plus, both songs' titles show what Quasimodo and Frollo's views on Esmeralda are.
I wished you mention the transition between the two parts of Hellfire, when the room turns to blue and a guard announces Frollo that Esmeralda has escaped, and the symbolism behind it: before that, Frollo was praying to God (or more accurately, Virgin Mary) to save him and protect from Esmeralda and her "siren's spell". It was an arrogant prayer, calling himself "just" and "purer" than the masses, refusing to admit his guilt and making only excuses for himself, even backhandedly blaming God for making humans weak, not even admitting that it was his own weakness; but it was a prayer nontheless, which had been heard by God. And the room turning to blue and the guard announcing him that Esmeralda has escaped was God's answer to Frollo's prayer, giving him an out, a chance to give up his pursue of an innocent woman, let go of his desires and save himself in the process. But Frollo, still basked in the red (or orange) hellfire, gave up this chance and refused to let go, and from this point onwards Frollo, completely engulfed in orange and red, calls out not to God or The Virgin Mary, but to Satan, the fires of hells themselves. He became beyond salvation, and after this point in the movie, his methods become more and become cruel, even setting the entire city of Paris on fire EDIT: fixed the name spelling
Is that the same stage musical where they made Frollo into an even better villian by fleshing out his character a bit more, and making Quasimodo his dead brothers son?
That would have been great, although I am actually leaning towards Benedict Cumberbatch these days, with the right makeup he could probably pull it off.
@@cursified I mean, it sounds better but it's not the point of the story.. It's not "what" makes them what.. it's Who's the real monster? The poor deformed guy or the creepy sunuvabitch that killed his mother? lol Also, that last: " Sing the bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells Bells, ooooooff nooooootreeeeee- DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME" is the world's best high note. (Well, ONE of the best!) I love how it ends with such a big boom! And it's a super long note too! like 20 seconds or so
Paulina Morales yeah, but I felt like ‘what’ is more thought provoking and I always felt ‘who’ was very obvious even when I first saw it as a young child but if you stop to think about it sure, it works. Also yes Bells of Notre Dame is amazing.
@@cursified I think either is better than the other. They're both appropriate questions posed at perfect points in the movie. Who is monster and who is the man is asked at the very beginning of the movie. It gives kids something to think about throughout the movie. By the time it is over, kids can answer the question. Then, when everything is over, one last question is posed: what makes a monster and what makes a man. That's a perfect question to end on because parents can have conversations with their kids. I know this because my parents asked my seven year old sister and nine year old me if we knew the answer on the drive home from the theater. I'm 33 now and that conversation still stays with me.
"Don't you have a home?" "Yes, but it's allergic to ugly." "Oh, well it must sneeze a lot when you come home." 😂😂😂 You guys are so quick-witted! Bravo!
Disney tried way too hard make Frollo unattractive both personality and looks wise in the animated movie. They probably did not want another scar incident to happen where fangirls started drooling over a villain. The Frollo in the book is actually very admirable and easy to fall for for a major amount of pages. He is actually 35. Ambitious, kind, smart, well-educated, wise, hardworking, passionate, quite caring, proud and confident. His face is described as austere yet calm. He has black hair with a few grey strings here and there. Also to include that he takes care of his brother after their parents' death as well as Quasimodo who he actually pitied seeing at the place that they put abandoned babies and decided to look after him by his own will. Well despite making him unlikable af in every way possible in the movie people still drool over him. (More like teenage girls with daddy issues). So Disney was not succesfull.
I legit have a crush on a lot of the male disney villains, like Scar, Dr. Facilier, Captain Hook, Hades, Frollo, Shan Yu and Ratigan. But I also have a crush on Prince Naveen & Shang ^^;
They had Gaston, _maybe_ Jafar?? (Iago and Abu both gagging) If they're finding Scar and Frollo attractive, how soon until they find Ratcliffe attractive!? (everybody else gagging)
I’m like wtf. Loki fine but frolo. Wtf!!!. I’m a guy but he reminds me of the creeps who think women are to blame. He looks to be 60, 55 if I’m feeling generous. Heck quasi modo would be better.
The epicness level for "Hellfire" destroys the roof when you understand the countering song being sung against Frollo's lines. The song begins and continues with the "Confiteor". It then plays in the background as kind of a Greek choir. The whole point of the Confiteor is that it's a prayer of contrition and self accusation. The very first line is translated as "I confess to Almighty God...". It works to directly call out and challenge the excuses and hypocrisy of Frollo and his claims of holiness, his pride and excuses offered for any "possible" failings of virtue. It comes to a climax when he is surrounded by the accusing hooded figures and it goes from words in the Confiteor to the Kyrie Elyison (Greek for Lord have Mercy). Again, a call to humility, to admit and acknowledge ones personal sins and failings. Finally, if you understand these two songs as prayers and their place in the structure of the Catholic Mass it takes an even deeper meaning. These prayers are said during "prayers at the foot of the alter" where both the priest and the altar servers confess before God and in front of the congregation their unworthiness before God. The priest says it at the foot of the altar before they actually approach the altar where the sacrifice of the mass is offered. Kind of like "I'm unworthy to be here and I acknowledge this but in humility I approach". The way it's juxtaposed and sung counter to Frollo's "I'm so great it's other people who are to blame for any perceived failings..." and "Please forgive me...but I'm going to do whatever I want" is just bone chilling.
I'd also like to point out that since this was the mid-90s and the music was clearly based on the Confiteor from the Traditional Latin Mass, not the modern Confiteor from the Novus Ordo, someone at Disney *really* knew their Catholic liturgical history.
@@Jared-cm2wv Wow yeah. I didn't realize the novus ordo changed the confiteor. Did they change the words? Or are you talking about the tonality in the music?
I wish so many people weren't so opposed to hand drawn animation, it's absolutely beautiful and I feel there are some movies that would really benefit from being traditionaly animated
hell, i still miss when MTG cards were hand drawn. between the aesthetics for both art and writing nowadays, i honestly dont even care to follow the story anymore. the immersion is lost as far as i'm concerned.
Fun fact: the statues staring down Frollo at the start are meant to be 28 kings of Judah, but during the French Revolution, the revolutionaries thought they were meant to be 28 kings of France and had them all beheaded. To date, 21 of 28 heads have been recovered
The novel wasn't really about the abuse of power in the church, it was about Victor Hugo's theory that architecture is the most important way a people communicate their culture. That's why he spent so much time describing the cathedral. And it worked. The cathedral became such a popular tourist attraction it guilted the French government and catholic church to rennovate the cathedral, which was in disrepair at the time.
Fascinating, I can't imagine taking that stunning architecture for granted. I so wish modern churches could be built with the love and artistry they used to have.
@@joshuaholland5279 Oh absolutely. I don't mean to turn the church into an idol, I just love how the building can reflect God's glory and the passionate faith of those who built it. But yeah, the innards are most important!
I'm kinda disappointed that you didn't mention the only good gargoil line "you know we're just made of stone, we just thought you where made of something stronger."
Believe it or not, there’s a hell of a lot of women who are disgusted beyond belief every time Frollo so much as opens his mouth :/ he’s ten times creepier or more dangerous than characters like Gaston
7:07 his voice isn’t shaky, it’s called vibrato, which most professional singers want. Especially in classical music it’s important. He’s got a pretty good singing voice.
I’ll admit, Tony Jay’s voice is hot, but the actual character of Frollo? Even if they made him younger and traditionally good looking, that’d still be a big “NO” from me.
@Monster Hanna Oh, my bad😬.But even then, you’ll probably get some silly fangirls (not being sexist, I’m a girl) who’ll be drooling over him. Well, you already have people drooling over him 🤮
Frollo is one of the best Disney villians, and absolutely the single most terrifying in just how realistic he is. He doesn't walk the fantasy line of cool evil like Malificent or Scar. And Gaston, while realistic, is too straightforward to make your skin crawl. Frollo is actually the evils of this world, not of fairytales, which might be due to the source material being a grounded novel. As unnerving as it is he has that dangerous charisma some may find hot and his voice is just chillingly good, as well as his manner of speech. That stuff evokes a gut reaction, bypassing the brain.
@Raylan Givens they did this trend with stop-motion with Fantastic Mr. Fox also bombing due to people wanting to go see Alvin and the Chipmunks Squeakquel and AVATAR. Missing Link was up against Disneys Dumbo live-action remake and also Avengers Endgame which was originally the highest grossing film of all time. This is why people dont take animation seriously as they dont want to support non-CGI animated films.
Would admit that they turn me away, unless its a disney film. I haven't seen any other animated movie before that isn't Disney besides iron giant. If its disney, I'm all for it and will want to see it or see a new animated film from them.
@@DrDolan2000 I miss the good old days with the beauty of 2D animation. Work of art like Prince of Egypt, Joseph the King of Dreams, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Hercules, Samurai Jack, Original Powerpuff Girls, ect.
@@bigboomer1013 I know this was ages ago, but check out Don Bluth. Secret of Nimh, All Dogs go to Heaven, Anastasia, and Titan AE are some of my all time favorites. (Aaaaaand hated by almost all my friends) X3
@@Arella17 *hands over memory deleting juice* here this will help remove all images and knowledge of Frollo being a...s...sex...symbol...(proceed to be to turn green) trust me it will works, now I'm going to take mine before i lose my dinner.
Yeah... you'd think people would ya know not especially in today's climate. I mean breaking a woman's neck on the steps of a church, of the biggest most famous of churches, and immediately then after trying to commit infanticide... sounds like it should be a turnoff. Then there's wrongfully burning a woman for witchcraft with the ultimatum being her (being like barely even a third his age) spending the rest of her days his sex slave? That is like Weinstein 2.0 x 99 which is a mathematical formula that actual scientists are... totallyconductingsomewheremaybeimcertainprobablynotbutabsolutelyareorshouldbeillstopthisnow Oh and he's also not much to look at and almost guaranteed a wrinkled husk beneath that robe literally the only thing one could say is sorta hot about him is Tony Jay's golden pipes
"Look at that disgusting display" / "Yes, sir!" is one of the best lines in the movie not so much for Phoebus' reply, but for Frollo' hand gesture as he says it.
in the cast recording of the broadway musical, i believe that note is done in his falsetto instead of belt which perfectly shows how high the note is lol some serious hadestown wait for me type stuff
Okay but the Gargoyles has one of the best lines in the movie. “After all we’re only made out stone.” “We just though maybe you were made of something stronger.” That shit hits hard, and I’d gladly sit through their crappy song a hundred times to earn that line right before Disney’s greatest climax battle sequence.
Agreed, and if they had left it there, we could have said that they were from the imagination of a very lonely young man like the stage show version. But no, they needed more slapstick.
Fun fact: the chant in the Cathedral before "Hellfire" is the Confiteor, a prayer from the Mass and Vespers where the faithful acknowledge their sins and ask for the intercession of the saints and mercy of God. In the movie, the prayer starts in the Cathedral and continues during Hellfire to contrast with Frollo's hypocrisy and refusal to admit his own faults ("I confess...to Blessed Mary...that I have greatly sinned" vs "Blessed Mary, you know I am a righteous man. Of my virtue I am justly proud"). My favorite example of this contrast is when the robed figures appear: "It's not my fault ('through my fault'), I'm not to blame ('through my fault'), it was the gypsy, the witch who set this flame ('through my most grievous fault')".
I knew the preaching before hellfire was something to do with repentance but I never caught or could hear there preaching during the song. That is crazy cool and really highlights His hypocrisy.
Yeah correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t see how daddy issues can lead to something like this. It just felt weird throughout every time the joke was mentioned.
@@louisduarte8763 Loki makes sense, at least. People finding Frollo remotely attractive is a concept I don't even want to think about, it's so disturbing.
I don’t really get the sexual appeal surrounding Frollo. I had the opportunity of understudying our Frollo when I was an acting student at my local professional theatre company. I was 18, and I thought it was discouraging that, even being so young, I was never going to be a Phoebus-type. I was slightly depressed that I would always be cast as the middle-aged male oppressor. Frollo, both in this movie and the stage musical, represents such toxically masculine elements that I always found him to be too creepy to be sexy. I guess the Internet community is so bizarre that it can overlook a predatory masculine character whose ultimatum is to either physically possess a woman or kill her, and will burn down the biggest city in Medieval Europe until he finds her... but Tony Jay’s voice though? 🤷🏼♂️
Frollo never put back the stone right because it represents how he plans to crush the gypsies through unethical means and it isn't of the norm. He knows he's in power and that he can break the rules. I jest but I imagine that's how someone would interpret it.
Been watching this movie for years and I’ve never thought about that. It could also mean that he doesn’t put it back into place because he never intended to ever right his wrongs, and fix his several mistakes despite always wanting to “do the right thing”. According to Frollo, “I fix my mistakes on my own terms, which I never have to do, because I’m *always* right.”
You don't have to jest, I think the stone was a conscious choice. He's literally using part of Notre Dame to crush the ants, symbolizing his power given to him by the church. But in putting it back the wrong way it shows he's perverted the original purpose of the church, one of beauty and love, to fascism and evil.
Laverne: These chains aren't what's holding you back, Quasimodo! Quasi: Leave me alone...! Laverne: ... I mean... We could always try singing again-- Quasi: NOOOOOOOOO! Alright. That one made me chortle.
Fun fact : In France, the voice actor of Frollo is same who dubbed Scar in the Lion King, Gandalf in TLOTR and Magneto in X Men. His name was Jean Piat, he passed away two years ago...
The scene where the crowd turns on Quasy just after crowning him, makes sense. The whole point of the festival was to crwon the ugliest fool, cheer him but also make fun of him. The line between cheer and insult in this case is very thin. One can see they were kinda hoping something like this would happen.
That's what I actually thought, even when I watch it for the first time. And everytime gets better. I studied History for a while and I loved Medieval History. Part of my fascination had a lot to do with how much Hollywood gets the period when they aren't trying that hard. I even wrote an essay about how accurate is A Knight's Tale. Yes, that "medieval" movie with Queen music.
Plus Frollo's guards were the ones who threw the first things at him, and we know Frollo is shown to be a powerful and influential man in this version, so the people probably figured they had their judge's sanction in doing what they did.
Wow, I didn't really know that! That does make a lot of sense. Honestly, I used to think that they were just being mean and cruel to Quasimodo, but now I understand the whole point. So Quasy was sort of "welcomed" by the crowd, in a kind of twisted way. XD
Also, if modern Internet has taught us anything, it’s that people are quick to anger and to jump on a bandwagon-even in as little time as is shown in the movie.
This movie has a special spot in my heart. As a person with a disability (visual impairment), Disney's version of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" was the first story I encountered a character like me. Quasimodo reached out from the screen, grabbed onto my little eight-year-old heart as I sat mesmerized in the theater, and hasn't ever really let go. That set me on my path: I wanted to tell stories like his, too. I went on to double major in Creative Writing and Theatre at college and have written a stage play adaptation of another Victor Hugo novel, "The Man Who Laughs", which tells of the romance between a disfigured clown and a blind girl and the political intrigue that ensues when the clown discovers he's the long-lost son of a rebellious nobleman. While yes, Disney obviously had to make some changes from the book, I think they captured its overall spirit beautifully in this film. The animation is stellar and the music is just gorgeous. I was lucky enough to see the stage show at La Jolla Playhouse and it was an absolute masterpiece, the perfect blend of Disney and the original novel. I really hope Disney gets the courage to do darker material like this again. Kids, especially those who are part of marginalized communities that are underrepresented in fiction, really need stories like this. It says to them, "You're not alone, and art can and does want to share with the world that there are people like you out there." Bravo to Victor Hugo, thank you to Disney, and blessed be. )O(
@@RavenStarMedia Hey, nice to meet you! And yes, I absolutely did. I'd spend recess climbing the jungle gym, pretending it was Notre Dame and that Quasimodo and I would have all kinds of adventures. His character journey brought up the societal prejudice people with disabilities face and the psychological effects and self-doubt that can have. It also touched on how people like us struggle with our relationships with religion, especially Christianity, which says God created everyone in His image and yet also features countless stories of disability being used as a punishment or test of faith, etc. In the end, Quasimodo realized that the spirit which some call God is simply pure empathy and compassion, a spirit which is symbolized by but can't be contained in a cathedral. That universal understanding is why I still adore the story to this day, even though I'm now a practicing Wiccan having come from the Episcopal church I was raised in. The divine has many names, many faces. That's a theme Victor Hugo explores in all his works. I loved Esmeralda, too. I was a tomboy as a kid and so I absolutely hated the image of the princess in a frilly dress who did nothing but center her life around Prince Charming. Esmeralda presented another image of womanhood, that a woman should embrace and stay true to herself first and foremost and however the men around her reacted to that was their problem. I also love that Esmeralda was shown to be a good person and was a non-royal. I find it disturbing that, so often in children's media, female characters being respected or having the capability to change the world for the better is so often tied to them being born or marrying into nobility. Esmeralda challenged that and I'll always love her for it.
Wow. No words can describe how correct you are. You touched my heart. I too love that Disney is representing people who have disabilities or deformities ( I have neither of those so I could be completely wrong with the terminology) and that is why the hunchback of Notre dame is my most favourite Disney film of all time.
Honestly the joke irks me because there is honestly a decent way to examine why Frollo has been having a freaky Renaissance if popularity. If anyone wants to spend the time and effort into examining why so many people are drawn to a genuinely abusive power figure who seeks to control the protagonists, I'd be down to sit through that. But making Frollo's possessive, entirely evil motivations a simple punch line really irks me. I'm not saying NC would have done it correctly as I don't think the crew has the ideal amount of psychological training to actually examine it, but the joke is not funny. (At least to me.)
It makes me uncomfortable too. I'm a 32 year old women with kids and a husband, but none of these "saucy romances" starring these abusive, power hungry men (or more recently serial killers 🙄) have turn me on in the slightest.
Gargoyles were built to scare demons away from religious places, so making a reference to them as "ugly" is kinda warranted. Also them being friends with Quasimodo (which is such a rude name as it not only refers to the holiday but also is mainly to point out how he is "almost the norm" for a human being).
Even though the original source material's ending is much darker, I actually prefer the ending to the movie. Dark and more depressing doesn't automatically mean better and I think the animated movie's ending is more resonant and emotional than everyone just dying at the end.
They both work with the context that they are given. In the book, Quasimodo's "marriage" is mean to be tragic, however it finished the set up the marriage of Phoebus. Both end in tragedy and death. There is no justice because the system still exists. Here, the goal is more acceptance, which also ends fittingly.
And that the good reason why the source material was counted as one of the novels of an horror genre always have sad endings. In "The Pagemaster", that cartoon book named Horror, his literally uncanny resemblance of the titular Hunchback actually summed up the whole thing.
1:30 It also changed Quasimodo into the french child and Esmeralda into the Gypsy. In the original tale, Esmeralda was a french child who was stolen away by gypsies and Quasimodo was left in their place. He was going to be killed by one of the guards, but was stopped by Frollo who took pity on the small child and offered to raise him as his own child, rather than being guilt tripped into it. He spent his free time trying to teach the child to read and write, even sign language when the tolling of the bells made him partially deaf.
If you're a fan of musicals, the stage play adaption Disney did for Hunchback is pretty magnificent. It goes a lot darker, and takes more after the original, while keeping some of the movie's songs and elements and making new changes as well. (such as Quasi being Frollo's nephew, the gargoyles are much better used, and sometimes translate for Quasi- as he is deaf and is played by a deaf actor in some versions.) I loved the movie growing up but since I've seen the stage play, the cartoon version just doesn't hit as hard. It's one of the few movies I'd be okay with disney re-making ONLY if it's made for an older audience and follows more in-line with the stage play version
IIRC the play version plays with this more, because canonically he is the religious figure. It doesn't go far to assume the dialogue between them was intentionally written in that light. The home of evil frollo is not a place to raise a child; here, in the church, where his good side lives, is more appropriate, even if it wasn't his good half's fault. He shall take responsibility as befits a man of the cloth, but not as the judge; would you really want the judge raising the child unsupervised anyway? Of course not. Etc etc.
@@ZoanBlade90 And Disney divided Claude Frollo into 2 halves Why is this? It’s because of trying to damage control the controversy that’s about to happen anyway about the church’s ⛪️ portrayal in a “Children’s Movie” namely: “Judge Frollo-the literary character’s bad side” and the “Unnamed Archdeacon-the literary character’s good side” Also in the very first scene, the communication between “the 2 halves of Frollo” looks like he’s arguing with himself on how to deal with the deformed baby 👶
One of the gargoyle quotes just before the song did really get a laugh out of me. "Paris, the city of love, is glowing tonight. True, that's because it's on fire."
“Frollo has become a sex symbol over the years.” I’m sorry...what. I know we all like bad boys and flawed characters, but... Why? I’m legitimately curious. Then again the internet made the literal planet into an anime girl, so why am I surprised that they would do this to one of the best Disney villains...
I'll copy this from another response I made. - Media allows us to explore sides of ourselves we usually don't want to suffer in real life. Some people fantasize about being abused because they find the thought titillating but naturally don't want to try it in real life. There are plenty of traumatizing things we practice safely in fiction. Gunfights in action movies and video games are very popular for a reason.
@@adobicanobi1303 uh...no. xD Tsundere are not PURE EVUL...Frollo is extremely wicked and not in the "cute" sense. Beast is the Disney tsundere....but Frollo oh lord no, *don't even compare them please*
I LOVE how the dramatic Gothic choir is used so much throughout the movie instead of either adding pointless songs or no music its SO effective and beautiful! Disney definitely knew how to make sure that Notre Dame's Gothic beauty was done right: the Cathedral looks INCREDIBLE especially for hand drawn animation!
I'd love to see a Dark Toons episode where Doug just dissects the Hellfire segment. There's so much great animation, voice work, and music at work that really deserves a deeper dive.
I was lucky enough to see the Musical for Hunchback a few years ago (it was great). My favorite part was at the end Quasimodo is about to toss Frollo off the building and Frollo says, “Quasimodo, you don’t want to do this.” And the Gargoyles, who are an entire church choir behind the set and established to be figments of Quasimodo’s imagination due to his isolation, whisper, “Yes, you do.” It’s chilling.
It really makes the movie feel big and epic. They tapped into some of the magic that made The Lion King so great. Also, Frolo is right up there with Scar as best Disney villain
@@RyanLBrown9396 it literally is so fucking GOOD im unsure if they used a tried and true church choir but even if they didnt the performance is godly (literally)
During Hellfire they used the Confiteor. Here’s the words in English: “ I confess to Almighty God, to blessed Mary ever Virgin, to blessed Michael the Archangel to blessed John the Baptist, to the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, to all the Saints, and to you, brethren, that I have sinned exceedingly in thought, word and deed: through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault. Therefore I beseech blessed Mary ever Virgin, blessed Michael the Archangel, blessed John the Baptist, the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, all the Saints, and you, brethren, to pray for me to the Lord our God.”
I take umbrage with the dismissal of Heaven's Light. It serves as a foil to Hell Fire. Quasimodo has never known love of any kind, and he describes it in a soft peaceful way. Frollo is on the other end of the spectrum. He has no love, but pure lust and his song is loud and flashy to reflect that. Emotional Love vs. Physical Lust. Heaven's Light vs. Hell Fire
Yeah, that scene is like a reversal of the ending to Fantasia. Instead of absolutely evil followed by absolute good, it's absolute good followed by absolute evil.
Vibrato must not be overdonned or I feel it becomes commical. It's the job of the composer. Like some opera singer make a duty to fuck up pronunciation and elocution just to seemingly make it more dramatic. But that's another subject.
There's a difference between good and bad vibrato. I don't have a lot of experience in music but the actor singing for Quasi isn't doing good vibrato, there's too much done in places that doesn't need it. Doug's point despite that, he still portrays a genuine sincere character, it over comes some of the shortcomings of his singing.
13:15 Yes, this one isn't great, but let's appreciate the fact that at first we're getting a pure, calm song about love from Quasimodo's point of view (and it's called "HEAVEN'S light") and right after we're getting Frollo's dark song about desire ("HELLfire") - I needed to be older to understand how great this artistic comparison is.
Dedicating this post to the rest of what Frollo's alphabet would of been G- godless H -Holy or Heretic I -Immoral J-justice K-Kvetch L- Lust M-Misdeed N-Naive O- Offense P- Pride Q- quixotic R- righteousness or repent S -Sloth T-Temperance or tainted U-Ungodliness V-veniality W-wickedness or Wrath X-Xenas Y- Yattier Z- Zealous Your Welcome
I died. Cuz I was thinking the same thing when he did lion king. I’m like why are you tearing apart a masterpiece!? But he likes to talk about the good and not so good stuff. And I’m like oh. Ok.
"The one you skip before Hellfire" Um I never skip that one, hell I replay it often times. I know it doesn't get respect but it being such a contrast both in message and in tone only serves to make Hellfire even better. You have Quasi singing about actually having a relationship and loving someone for who they are and being loved for who he is, vs Frollo singing about lust out right objectifying Esmeralda. It creates a great contrast between both their characters as well as the songs.
yeah, that was such a stupid comment. Part of what makes Hellfire so powerful in the film is hearing it right after the purity of Quasi's 'Heaven's Light.'
I do skip it :( But only while listening the album, I still have it on a lot of my playlists about musicals, Disney and even in one with inspirational songs.
Fun Fact: According to Kathy Zielinski, the supervising animator behind the character of Frollo, the MPAA, originally, wanted to give the film a PG-13 rating for the scene where Frollo sniffes Esmeralda's hair. Apparently, the original scene was longer but they decided to cut it down a bit to please the rating boards association.
He originally sniffed her hair longer? Definitely deserves a PG-13! No one sniffs hair in front of the children! No, you can't sniff your own hair in front of the children too! And now excuse me, i'll go and sniff my cat in privacy!
I think HUNCHBACK is a perfect metaphor for the Catholic church: showing people are capable of the best and the worst of humanity in any given situation
The original, yeah, but the Disney movie changed it; they made Frollo a judge, and the deacon is relatively harmless, if not outright benign. Theirs is more about the corruption of law and order, not the dangers of unchecked faith.
@@seprithlicastia463 Allow me to rephrase: it's a perfect example of how people view faith in the church, and then act because how they veiw it. The church hierarchy doesnt really matter in the film, but the characters actions towards others and eachother do.
Why, oh why, did Disney replace the hand-drawn animation for CGI? Hand-drawn animation looks better and has a certain style to it, almost every cgi movie looks the same.
you should watch the nostalgia critic's editorial analysis on 2D vs 3D animation if you haven't already. personally, like you, i much prefer disney's hand drawn films by far
@@darthstarkiller1912 Actually, the budget for cgi/3D animation is definitely higher than 2D animation, but it is faster to make. For example, Disney's Bolt has a budget of 150 million dollars, while the next Disney movie, The Princess and the Frog, has a budget of 105 million dollars. By the way, that certain style that 2D animation has that 3D animation doesn't have is the fact that it's more artistic looking than 3D while 3D animation looks more live action than artistic. That and 2D animation offers a whole art gallery coming to life with amazing background art and concept art too, which is all even more admirable in blu-ray quality.
Even though the gargoyles are annoying they do deliver one of the best lines in the movie: “After all we are made of stone, we just thought u were made of something stronger”
Exactly. And personally credit only seems to think that there's two camps of people who have an opinion on the gargoyles when really it's more like four groups according to TV tropes: Scrappies they may be, but the gargoyles do provide a lot of genuinely Funny Moments, and at the very least contribute to the plot (for example, they're the ones who convince Quasimodo to go to the festival). Which side of the Broken Base a fan falls into often depends on their age. People who were teens or adults when the film came out tend to hate the gargoyles, and people who were children at the time love them. Then there are those who don't think they're unequivocally awful, but don't like them much either; or they like Victor and Laverne but think Hugo is too crass and over the top. And then there are those that think they're cute and funny characters, but they're completely misplaced in this movie and would fit better in either Aladdin or Hercules. One thing that does tend to be generally agreed upon, though, is that the decision to depict the gargoyles as definitely animate and sentient in several scenes, rather than purely figments of Quasimodo's imagination, was a bad idea. Their supporters like to point out that they're better foster parents for Quasimodo than Frollo, and Quasimodo probably would've grown up a bitter person if it hadn't been for them. End Quote Personally while I do think they'd be out of place once in awhile let's be honest it's because of their antics that this movie even got away with a G rating. Basically us kids we would go to see the gargoyles and then totally get the more adult stuff with Frolli once we get older
"...and even if you have seen it, watch it again. There's always something to appreciate with every view..." ...and by appreciate, he meant see something completely horrifying you'll never UN-SEE.
In a behind the scenes video I saw many years ago, the filmmakers revealed only a few models were computer generated with the same animation and cloned over and over again to simulate the crowd, as drawing all of them would take them ages. This technique was also used in the stampede scene from The Lion King. The animators said that in the Feast of Fools sequence, the only thing that actually changed about the characters were the masks. Ironically, they actually expressed nobody would notice until they talked about it.
Speaking of dark elements: the old man in the cage who yells, "I'm free!" was in what was literally called, "the cage". It was a form of torture used to extract confessions and if one was not made the victim was left outside to die. Instead of making it a joke they should've just left him in the cage hanging off the side of a building until near the end where it's empty
oh yes, gibbeting. with openings just big enough so the birds could come in and peck your flesh and eyes bit by bit. most criminals or condemned were already near death when they were displayed, but it was a horrific way to go.
Same, I also didn't know what it actually was. Obviously, even as a kid, I could tell it was something a criminal would be put in, but thought it was like any other jail cell, just out in the open. But his line "I'm free, I'm free...dang it!" was my sister's and I's favorite line and we would quote it all the time, which my mom hated, because of the word "dang it."
What I always loved about Hellfire is that there's a moment in the song, after Frollo learns that Esmeralda escaped, where he stops talking about the fire and starts talking to it. It's a brilliant swap in his motivation.
I was still excited to hear him talk about it. Granted, pretty much anything is warranting of a Nostalgia Critic video these days, but even if he likes a movie or isn’t sure what to think, he’ll sometimes apply more analysis to it. And he cast himself as Frollo in the thumbnail, haha. 😂
@Blue Skeptic Toy Story 3 definitely deserves PG more. Lotso is the closest we'll get to Stalin in a kid's film, and the scenes leading to the incinerator (as well as the incinerator itself) are more adult than anything in the other movies mentioned by a good margin
The fact that he immediately had to preface it with "I like the movie" so people wouldn't riot. Lol! I love Nostalgia Critic. Also, I have an idea on why they made Frollo's eyes and mouth glow yellow like that in his last scene. I think it was a visual reference to him having gone from this "holy man of God" to basically a demon and wicked, first metaphorically and then for real once he plunges into the metaphorical molten fires of Hell below. Just my take on it. Either way, I agree--it's epic.
Esmeralda: "Quasimodo?" Quasimodo: "Esmeralda." Frollo: "SHE LIVES!" (takes out a sword) That's how the big fans of the Victor Hugo book reacted when they first saw that scene. 😂😂
BOO! How dare you skip Heaven's Light? Having it back to back with Hellfire strengthens both and gets to the heart of the film. Quasimodo's sweet and innocent unrequited love gets sharply juxtaposed with Frollo's possessive lust. Without Heaven's Light Hellfire is epic, yes, but not as good.
You're asking too much from the moron who thinks Notre Dame is the name of the city even tho they mention Paris by name several times. Also, he loves to assume that everybody deep down hates the same things he hates. Don't bother. Heaven's Light is awesome, and no dumb critic can take that away from us.
brandon roberts it is, I just wish Disney could go all the way. The movie clearly didn’t call for that kind of comedy and was generally supposed to be for an older crowd. It’s the sole reason why I’ve always said that studio ghibli is a superior Disney in this regard. They can do lighter or much more serious films dependent on what the story calls for. They never feel the need to pander to younger audiences and have the balls to do something more mature or straight on occasion.
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Why can’t Disney just make gargoyles a live action movie or do a Marvel movie about The Sentry,Squadron Supreme Or Silver Surfer!
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Hi, this is Tony Jay’s niece. Loved this video! Fun fact: my uncle couldn’t initially reach that big final note of Hellfire and asked to have the key lowered. Alan Menken refused and so Tony had to take voice lessons until he could reach it!
Hey Nat, it's funny seeing you here! I just wanted to say that I love your Uncle's phenomenal deep voice, AND I also enjoy listening to YOUR music as well. I guess great talent runs in the Jay family. :)
No offense at all to your uncle, but I’m glad Alan Menken refused to change the key and thus he had to work at it to give us (as the Critic pointed out) hands down, the BEST Disney villain song.
Wow, you are famous, and I like Hellfire.
Aww hi nat Your uncle portrayed one of the most amazing Disney villains I have ever seen I love his character so much
@@MrGleeiscool THE MOST AMAZING
"We're introduced to the people of Notre Dame."
...the city is called Paris, Critic.
yeah, notre dome is the district/church
Well, actually, Notre Dame is in Paris, France.
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This is Paris, before the I-fell Tower
"Why does Notre Dame not have satellite TV?"
Me: "It's Paris Critic"
The great thing about Frollo is that he's a deeply complex, layered, and realistic character, and yet still unflinchingly evil at the same time.
I wouldn't call him all that complex. He's an arrogant, horny, hypocritical Bible Thumper. Those are like a dime a dozen in the RNC.
Tony jay was great but I was always curious as to how Tim curry would’ve done it
Quinntus79 He’s very complex in the sense that he’s a fully rounded character, showcasing typical villainous traits like anger, prejudice, and hate, but also shame, and fear. You understand his motivations completely.
Blu Watcher I love Tim Curry but he tends to go over the top which doesn’t work for Frollo.
kris lyons yeah definitely, I think they did ask him but he was busy doing muppet treasure island.
“Frollo has becomes a sex symbol over the years”
*Chokes* A WHAT?!
I was like: yeeep. true. no so harsh as a sex-symbol. But my favourite character from Disney for sure. Read some good (not smut, just good fanfiction bout him) Sadly in Englisch there is mostly smut.
But I really love everything in him. (okay, almost everything. a little more depth will be better. but I can do it in ff, so no problem with this.)
@@lissanic821
Do you know any good FanFiction (about Claude Frollo) in English? Please recommend me
I literally paused the video for a moment and had to replay it just to clarify that was what he said.
He is so fucking hot
Exactly 😂😂😂
"The fact that it's handdrawn would turn people away"
What a world to live in :(
Hand drawn films are beautiful.
we live in a society
Same I miss hand drawn animation
I know, I love hand drawn.
Art is art....were it not for painters, artists, the original handdrawn, the computer animation wouldn't exist. As Disney animation said in the trailer for Princess and The frog. handdrawn is a legacy that brings the characters to life. They've always looked like a moving storybook to me. Hence the book entrances.
Frollo: "And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit!"
God: "Well, if you insist..."
I love how he is the only Disney villain that was so evil that he was struck down by the hand of God right after invoking the word of God.
Love that
Morgan Young I believe he invoked it Prematurely.
So true 😂
Frollo:"HEY WAIT! I DIDNT MEAN ME!"
It might just be me, but I think Hellfire is improved by having Heaven's Light beforehand. Two men, professing their love for a woman on the same night at the same time, but both approaching it from the complete opposite ends of the spectrum.
And sure, Quasimodo's section of the song isn't quite as compelling since it basically amounts to "I feel like I finally found someone who appreciates me", but I think his stark innocence and naivete juxtaposed against Frollo's insatiable lust and violent possessiveness help make the latter song much more striking.
Wow. You couldn’t of said it any more perfectly. I applauded you. And yes, I 100% agree with you. I love both of the songs, because they are great.
Honestly, "Heaven's Light" is one of my favorite moments in the whole movie, and without it, "Hellfire" wouldn't be nearly as meaningful as it is. I mean, there's a REASON that the official track is listed as "Heaven's Light/Hellfire" on the soundtrack. They're ONE song.
It's also the reason that neither of them "get the girl": Quasi sees Esmeralda as an Angel, an absolutely perfect being that he's put on a pedestal high above himself. Frollo sees her as a Demon, an evil being of pure wickedness and corruption.
It's literally the song version of the Madonna-Whore Complex, and it's done beautifully.
But it also hammers home why she ends up with Phoebus - he's the only one who sees her as an actual person, who is able to meet her on equal footing both physically, mentally, and in their values. They are both able to hold their own against each other, and their values align in standing up for people who are suffering abuses of power (Phoebus intervening against the guards to help her at the beginning/Esmeralda intervening to help Quasimodo, Phoebus saving the family from the burning house/Esmeralda saving Phoebus when he's attacked.)
Quasi's arc is about loving himself, so he doesn't need to "get" this Angelic Woman that he's fantasizing about. His arc is that he realizes that she's NOT on a pedestal above him because he's NOT worthless and unlovable as he's been taught to believe. He can bow out gracefully because he can recognize that Phoebus is her equal, but that doesn't mean that they're BETTER than him.
TL;DR - "Heaven's Light" is totally essential to the philosophical dichotomy of "Hellfire", to the Frollo/Quasi/Phoebus romantic dynamic, and to Quasi's character arc. Super underrated, don't do "Heaven's Light" dirty like that, Critic.
Yes!
I totally agree. The point of Heaven's Light was to contrast and complement Hellfire, along with the hero and villain and the way their feelings towards Esmeralda manifest. That's why they're talking Heaven and Hell.
@@strawberrysoulforever8336 indeed.
Frollo’s death is so fitting because the reason why we decorate church and cathedrals with gargoyles is because they scare away evil spirits. So when he said said that final line and the gargoyle scares him before falling to his death holds more meaning. The gargoyle scared the wicked so badly that he returned to hell where he belonged.
Which kinda makes the line from the beginning of the movie where Frollo is about to drown Quasimodo, “This is an unholy demon. I’m sending it back to hell where it belongs” a little disturbing.
Why do people not like hand drawn, hand drawn is beautiful. Edit: Christ did this blow up and thank you for all of the insight on this topic.
i do.
Same here
I like 2D as well!
People do like it. Studios just don't do it anymore. I guess they're the ones that don't like it.
@Villiam Hofgaard Remember that 2D and hand drawn are not the same thing.
In my honest opinion, The Bells of Notre Dame is the best Disney opening since Circle of Life.
It really is. It tells the entire backstory of Quasimodo beautifully and gets a reprise much like Circle of Life at the end of the film.
It’s always been my favorite part of the movie
not as good an opening as circle of life, but definitely up there
I give just a slight edge to CoL but otherwise I agree. Bells of Notre Dame is a musical masterpiece. Another reason to check out the stage musical version is the epic soundtrack.
i infact love this movie more for the soundtrack than the story itself.......the story is great too but the music is so beautiful!
Fun fact: the Disney animators actually spent several days in the Notre Dame cathedral to make it look as realistic as possible. ❤️❤️❤️
That is why I love the film so much. The attention to detail and the effort they put into these films just amazes me. Aaaaaaaand that is why I am a hardcore Disney Stan.
Kirrily Joy dude, legit; The Lion King *literally* saved my life. I was born with right-sided heart failure, and after my first surgery, the doctors said I couldn’t cry too hard or my heart could give out. The only thing that kept me from crying was The Lion King (and Elton John’s music), so if it weren’t for that movie, I wouldn’t be here today.
I’ve literally been a Disney Stan my whole life 😅❤️
@@SpiritedHeart94 wow. I am so glad that that film saved your life. And me too. Me too.
Fun fact: Disney imagineers visited a school full of tards to get Quasimodos look down pat ❤❤❤
B Fowl um, no, they adapted Quasimodo’s looks from how he was described in the book & various artworks depicting him. Wtf is your problem? Don’t bring that childish sh*t here.
Fun fact:
The Disney Executives intentionally made Frollo as evil as possible. In order to get rid of the whole "Evil is cool" schtick with Disney Villains which was circulating
And JUDGING from the audience reactions (hehehehe) it didn’t work out the way they intended to, NC himself has highlighted that fact already in the early part of the video
Well it backfired quickly.
Kind of ironic, then, that one of Disney's most hilarious and most likable villains came out the very next year after this movie (Hades in "Hercules").
@@carlottarobbins7005
Which is believe it or not, Disney’s own acknowledgment 😓 that their intentions regarding Judge Frollo DIDN’T work out the way they wanted to. The Proof of the matter is in the form of Memes using the character, a shit ton of fan work that sexualizes the “creepy old pervert” (haha that reminded me of the term “Pervy Sage”) and he’s got some fan girls called “Frollophiles”, a shit ton of fan work that pairs Frollo with Esmeralda together (there’s a very good one that’s called “Quando Judex est Venturus” it’s a fan comic), and last but not the least, a parody series called “The Frollo Show”
Yeah what an internet sensation, that Judge Trollo,
also, Frollololololololololololol and
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Really he is not the same character in the book and the Disney movie.
The Black Cauldron: I'm the darkest movie Disney has ever made.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame: Hold my sins.
Brenda Rivas yeah except hunchback made money BOOM! (Mic drop) 😁🌟👍🏻
Hunchback: an ugly dude and a horny old man
Black Cauldeon: HORDES OF THE UNDEAD, FOGGY HORRIBLE CASSTLE, AN ELDRICH EVIL ARTIFACT, A DEVILISH LICH HELLBENT ON TAKING OVER THE WORLD.and that gurgy thing!
Black Cauldron is darker. Period.
Also hold their Eternal Damnation and drowned deformed babies.
@@DashingSteel
Pft, the Hunchback of Notre Dame is way darker.
Well, since The Black Cauldron had a explicit death scene by melting flesh to bone but not added to final release of the movie, HoND could hand that title with Hellfire song sequence.
Hellfire through and through is a masterpiece, but the best part is when the guard arrives to tell Frollo Esmeralda escaped. The color of the room goes from red to a calming blue, until Frollo scorns the guard and sends him away. The color then turns back to a deep red. It's as if God or Jesus Himself is reaching to Frollo, trying to lead him away from temptation, but Frollo has fallen too far from grace. He has damned himself
Edit: swap one character for a couple of Ls. This ain't Baggins.
@@TheNotverysocial shit good catch
..... my God. That’s amazing. Nice catch.
If you notice too, Frollo was praying to rid himself of the obsession with Esmerlda, and then the guard arrived to say she's gone. He was just to blind to see the salvation and it consumed him until death
Ooh, I never thought of that before.
For the record- frollo being sexy is the grossest thing I’ve ever heard
He’s the only Disney villain I’ve ever truly been afraid of because he’s so realistic and I’ve been felt up by plenty of guys just like him
"Frilly"
I'm a dude and frollo always creeped me out. That hellfire song when I first watched this movie gave me nightmares
Being voiced by the awesome late Tony Jay helps too.
Makes no sense to me either, I mean I like Yzma(emperor's new groove) as a comedic, yet still intimidating, villainous character, But I DEFINITELY wouldn't fuck that!
...Sorry to hear that
I do wish Disney had had the guts to give this film the Prince of Egypt treatment. No comic relief gargoyles, just a beautiful new setting of a classic story.
I think you're forgetting the Prince of Egypt had the same issues with tonal backlash. I mean the two priests are the gargoyles of that movie. Their designs are really campy compared to other characters and their musical number, albeit an amazing score, is still kinda corny. Credit where it's due, they have less screen time than the gargoyles, but you can still see the studio also was struggling to balance light kid friendly content with a story literally involving genocide.
@@javierganzarain4559 Yes, DW couldn’t resist attempting to add comic relief, but it’s really just that one scene. Moses doesn’t have a sassy pet scorpion or anything. Furthermore, it wasn’t tonal backlash. Pharaoh’s magicians are shown to be just that - stage magicians, with all the camp of a Vegas show. They can’t actually do magic because their gods aren’t real and/or can’t compete with Yahweh. Instead they rely on flash and sleight of hand. Of course they’re over the top!
I hope you’re not arguing that humor has no place in art with a serious message. Look at Cabaret. Look at Life is Beautiful. Look at… some other poignant film NOT involving Nazis… (brainfart). Take away the gargoyles, but leave Clopin, and Hunchback could fall into this same category. Les Miserables has the Thenardiers. Hunger Games has those (campy!) commentators.
I think the thing all these effective “comic” characters have in common is some motivation other than simply wanting to further the interests of the protagonist. They have lives of their own and their own part to play in the story. Do the gargoyles? No. Does Flounder or Scuttle? No. Does Abu? No. Does any other comic Disney sidekick? No. But do the magicians in Prince of Egypt? Yes. They do more than simply allow the protagonist to voice his/her thoughts while providing jokey feedback and commentary. They actively hinder Moses, and use their campy flare to do it! It all works, and the tonal contrast robs the Passover tale of none of its potency.
Yeah the gargoyles felt kinda out of place here, i don't mind some comic relief but this is a pretty dark story and most of the comedy just felt forced then again i think Hunchback is not the first thing you would think of when it comes to Disney adaptations
@@javierganzarain4559 thank u 💯💯🤣🙌🙌🙌🙌
Perfect casting for Moses in a live action Prince of Egypt would be Israeli Actor Aviv Alush. And rest of the Hebrew slave cast should be Israelis and should act their roles with their Hebrew accents buy the background chatter should be in Hebrew.
Hunchback Of Notre Dame: When Disney had the guts to go dark. Also, this film is one of my favorites.
I agree, they’d never make anything like this now.
I second this
Agreed I full
N A no please not a live action version because then it will get ruined like the lion king
It's even darker in the French dub. Less innuendo and more out with the sexual tension
Talks about drowning a baby on screen, but doesn't talk about literally seeing a woman get her neck and or back snapped and dying instantly on screen. *Disney theme and logo*
Seriously everyone goes on about the book, "Everybody dies in the end!"
Well in the Disney version they gave Quzaymotto a mom just to kill her!
"A faaaaaaamily picture!"
@@CompletelyNewguy Your comment just made me realize Esme's mom from the book might have been replaced by Quasi's mom in this adaptation. Esme's mom, Paquette, dies at the end of the novel - Quasi' dies at the begining. Paquette dies trying to protect her daughter from lawmen like Frollo. She is also holding her child, the guards kick her away violently, she hits her head on stone and dies instantly. Frollo took part on both tragedies since he was the one that lead the guards towards Esmeralda in the book.
Curiously, Esme and Quasi swift moms within the story. The gypsies have stolen little Esme from Paquette while she was away from home and left baby Quasimodo in her place. He is abandoned by the heartbroken mother right away. Quasi was gypsy by birth and Esme was raised by them.
*Woman from Jungle 2 Jungle screams*
We don’t say “LiTerAlLy” in 2020 honey 💀🤡
It's really a shame that everyone skips Heaven's Light, because it really is one of the most beautiful songs in the movie, even if it's only around a minute long. It's the most underrated Disney song in my opinion.
And it's also opposite tone with "Hellfire," both lyrically and musically. Plus, both songs' titles show what Quasimodo and Frollo's views on Esmeralda are.
I don't think that many people skip it. The only song I skip is the gargoyle song "a guy like you."
@@isaacgleeth3609 And it's they are same song in terms of notes, Heaven's Light being the light reprise and Hellfire being the dark reprise.
You honestly don't get the full effect of the moment unless you listen to both songs together. They're tied together with the chanting at the church.
Especially the off broadway version!!!! It’s one of my fav songs!
Doug criticizes the comedy but cuts out “I’m free I’m free!” guy which is easily the funniest joke in the whole movie
I agree, Even though the predates 'Avatar: The Last Airbender' he could give "my cabbages" guy a run for his money.
My friends and I used to quote him all the time
I love that guy! XD
I love the "I'm free" guy he's amazing
Dang it
I wished you mention the transition between the two parts of Hellfire, when the room turns to blue and a guard announces Frollo that Esmeralda has escaped, and the symbolism behind it: before that, Frollo was praying to God (or more accurately, Virgin Mary) to save him and protect from Esmeralda and her "siren's spell". It was an arrogant prayer, calling himself "just" and "purer" than the masses, refusing to admit his guilt and making only excuses for himself, even backhandedly blaming God for making humans weak, not even admitting that it was his own weakness; but it was a prayer nontheless, which had been heard by God. And the room turning to blue and the guard announcing him that Esmeralda has escaped was God's answer to Frollo's prayer, giving him an out, a chance to give up his pursue of an innocent woman, let go of his desires and save himself in the process. But Frollo, still basked in the red (or orange) hellfire, gave up this chance and refused to let go, and from this point onwards Frollo, completely engulfed in orange and red, calls out not to God or The Virgin Mary, but to Satan, the fires of hells themselves. He became beyond salvation, and after this point in the movie, his methods become more and become cruel, even setting the entire city of Paris on fire
EDIT: fixed the name spelling
Name spelling!
!!! This is such a good catch I never realized that!!
I never saw it like that. That’s very clever
Critic is sadly too critical for religion :)
The prideful religious men will always find a way to justify their actions because they believe they’re purer and more holy than others.
Hunchback of Notre dame: The most underrated film of the Disney renaissance.
THANK YOU!!!
Geez
When Disney had guts to go dark.
and that’s on truth
I beg to differ. Treasure Planet is more underrated.
The gargoyles were much better handled in the stage musical. They were used as a way to explore Quasi's thoughts instead of being comedic reliefs.
jp3813 And whenever Quasi is played by a deaf actor, one of the gargoyles serves as his voice
Is that the same stage musical where they made Frollo into an even better villian by fleshing out his character a bit more, and making Quasimodo his dead brothers son?
@@kyriss12 Yes, though I don't necessarily agree that he's a better villain for the riddle of "what makes a monster and what makes man".
Made of stone, that song made their existance a good thing.
@@dark3rthanshadows They were good throughout the whole story.
I always said it, had Alan Rickman was still alive and with us, he'd make an excellent if not a superb Frollo for the live action remake
He basically played the exact same character in Sweeney Todd.
Several months ago, I created a fan-cast for a live-action version of this movie, and I chose Charles Dance as Frollo.
He'd would no doubt fucking carry that movie to getting significantly better reviews and ratings compared to the others
Would have been too on the nose and typecasting. I would have liked someone less known to give a more mysterious and ominous vibe.
That would have been great, although I am actually leaning towards Benedict Cumberbatch these days, with the right makeup he could probably pull it off.
"Who is the monster and who is the man?"
I love that line in Clopin's song. It stayed with me since I was a kid.
I think ‘what makes a monster and what makes a man’ is a little better but that’s good too
@@cursified I mean, it sounds better but it's not the point of the story.. It's not "what" makes them what.. it's Who's the real monster? The poor deformed guy or the creepy sunuvabitch that killed his mother? lol
Also, that last:
" Sing the bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells
Bells, ooooooff nooooootreeeeee- DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME"
is the world's best high note. (Well, ONE of the best!) I love how it ends with such a big boom! And it's a super long note too! like 20 seconds or so
Paulina Morales yeah, but I felt like ‘what’ is more thought provoking and I always felt ‘who’ was very obvious even when I first saw it as a young child but if you stop to think about it sure, it works. Also yes Bells of Notre Dame is amazing.
@@paulinamorales8854 That note is single handedly the reason it's my favorite Disney song.
@@cursified I think either is better than the other. They're both appropriate questions posed at perfect points in the movie. Who is monster and who is the man is asked at the very beginning of the movie. It gives kids something to think about throughout the movie. By the time it is over, kids can answer the question. Then, when everything is over, one last question is posed: what makes a monster and what makes a man. That's a perfect question to end on because parents can have conversations with their kids. I know this because my parents asked my seven year old sister and nine year old me if we knew the answer on the drive home from the theater. I'm 33 now and that conversation still stays with me.
Anybody remember this running joke from the movie? Ahem...ahrrm...
“I’m free! I’m free...
*THUD!!*
“...Dang it!”
This is still my favorite running jokes in film
The “My cabbages!” before “My cabbages!” was a thing.
My favorite line as a kid!
LOL
That one gives me a good laugh
"Don't you have a home?"
"Yes, but it's allergic to ugly."
"Oh, well it must sneeze a lot when you come home."
😂😂😂 You guys are so quick-witted! Bravo!
“Hahahaha- he’s staying here.”
That had me bawling m😂
Yellow Pikmin88 hey it’s you again , hello
Disney tried way too hard make Frollo unattractive both personality and looks wise in the animated movie. They probably did not want another scar incident to happen where fangirls started drooling over a villain. The Frollo in the book is actually very admirable and easy to fall for for a major amount of pages. He is actually 35. Ambitious, kind, smart, well-educated, wise, hardworking, passionate, quite caring, proud and confident. His face is described as austere yet calm. He has black hair with a few grey strings here and there. Also to include that he takes care of his brother after their parents' death as well as Quasimodo who he actually pitied seeing at the place that they put abandoned babies and decided to look after him by his own will.
Well despite making him unlikable af in every way possible in the movie people still drool over him. (More like teenage girls with daddy issues). So Disney was not succesfull.
Agreed
I legit have a crush on a lot of the male disney villains, like Scar, Dr. Facilier, Captain Hook, Hades, Frollo, Shan Yu and Ratigan. But I also have a crush on Prince Naveen & Shang ^^;
And he taught Pierre Gringroire how to read and write.
They had Gaston, _maybe_ Jafar?? (Iago and Abu both gagging) If they're finding Scar and Frollo attractive, how soon until they find Ratcliffe attractive!? (everybody else gagging)
But for scar, is just pretty fuckin wild
"Frolle has become a sex symbol nowadays" I swear my face was stuck in a horrified expression for a good while there.
Same. And I refuse to go down that lane. Ew.
You and me both, dear.
It was Tony Jay's voice, mainly - I think?
Such BARITONE... such timbre.
likely the second most disturbing thing the internet ever threw my way.
I’m like wtf. Loki fine but frolo. Wtf!!!. I’m a guy but he reminds me of the creeps who think women are to blame. He looks to be 60, 55 if I’m feeling generous. Heck quasi modo would be better.
The epicness level for "Hellfire" destroys the roof when you understand the countering song being sung against Frollo's lines. The song begins and continues with the "Confiteor". It then plays in the background as kind of a Greek choir. The whole point of the Confiteor is that it's a prayer of contrition and self accusation. The very first line is translated as "I confess to Almighty God...". It works to directly call out and challenge the excuses and hypocrisy of Frollo and his claims of holiness, his pride and excuses offered for any "possible" failings of virtue. It comes to a climax when he is surrounded by the accusing hooded figures and it goes from words in the Confiteor to the Kyrie Elyison (Greek for Lord have Mercy). Again, a call to humility, to admit and acknowledge ones personal sins and failings. Finally, if you understand these two songs as prayers and their place in the structure of the Catholic Mass it takes an even deeper meaning. These prayers are said during "prayers at the foot of the alter" where both the priest and the altar servers confess before God and in front of the congregation their unworthiness before God. The priest says it at the foot of the altar before they actually approach the altar where the sacrifice of the mass is offered. Kind of like "I'm unworthy to be here and I acknowledge this but in humility I approach". The way it's juxtaposed and sung counter to Frollo's "I'm so great it's other people who are to blame for any perceived failings..." and "Please forgive me...but I'm going to do whatever I want" is just bone chilling.
Underrated comment. This should be pinned to the top.
@@Passions5555
I'd also like to point out that since this was the mid-90s and the music was clearly based on the Confiteor from the Traditional Latin Mass, not the modern Confiteor from the Novus Ordo, someone at Disney *really* knew their Catholic liturgical history.
@@Jared-cm2wv Wow yeah. I didn't realize the novus ordo changed the confiteor. Did they change the words? Or are you talking about the tonality in the music?
Wow. Never knew this. Great comment.
I wish so many people weren't so opposed to hand drawn animation, it's absolutely beautiful and I feel there are some movies that would really benefit from being traditionaly animated
We're not. Hollywood thinks we are.
hell, i still miss when MTG cards were hand drawn.
between the aesthetics for both art and writing nowadays, i honestly dont even care to follow the story anymore. the immersion is lost as far as i'm concerned.
I doubt that most people are against hand-drawn, otherwise anime wouldn't be as popular as it is.
Above average hand drawn animation is a fuck ton more expensive than above average CGI... with the disparity worsening as quality improves.
@@artix548 how many anime movies get a release in theatres worldwide?
Fun fact: the statues staring down Frollo at the start are meant to be 28 kings of Judah, but during the French Revolution, the revolutionaries thought they were meant to be 28 kings of France and had them all beheaded. To date, 21 of 28 heads have been recovered
That is more like a sad facts than a fun one.
The novel wasn't really about the abuse of power in the church, it was about Victor Hugo's theory that architecture is the most important way a people communicate their culture. That's why he spent so much time describing the cathedral. And it worked. The cathedral became such a popular tourist attraction it guilted the French government and catholic church to rennovate the cathedral, which was in disrepair at the time.
This was during a time France had revolutions all the time and nobody cared about the beauty of their architecture and let it fall.
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Fascinating, I can't imagine taking that stunning architecture for granted. I so wish modern churches could be built with the love and artistry they used to have.
@@matthewjones6786 well it’s about the people and the love of God not the building.
@@joshuaholland5279 Oh absolutely. I don't mean to turn the church into an idol, I just love how the building can reflect God's glory and the passionate faith of those who built it. But yeah, the innards are most important!
I'm kinda disappointed that you didn't mention the only good gargoil line "you know we're just made of stone, we just thought you where made of something stronger."
And “fly My pretties fly fly”
Don't forget "Life's not a spectator sport. If watching is all you're gonna do, you're gonna watch your life go by without you."
right? say what you will about them but they are good friends that do give good advice
@@richardfinney6339 I try to live my life by that saying
Victor and Laverne were actually really supportive, it was just Hugo who was being annoying
Believe it or not, there’s a hell of a lot of women who are disgusted beyond belief every time Frollo so much as opens his mouth :/ he’s ten times creepier or more dangerous than characters like Gaston
N3RDYG0GGLES That was the intention, but you’d be surprised with the Frollo thirst (same thing with the Onceler fandom). I know I was.
Gaston is a rapist but Frollo is next level sociopathic deranged creep
The type of women who like Frollo are the same ones that go crazy over 50 Shades of Grey.
yeah he's hornyness on a whole other level
He’s dangerous for the exact same reasons as Gaston. Entitlement, toxic masculinity and fear of the other.
7:07 his voice isn’t shaky, it’s called vibrato, which most professional singers want. Especially in classical music it’s important. He’s got a pretty good singing voice.
Thank you for saying this!
Well, goddang. I can do vibrato every time I sing. I never realised it was something that was important!
Yeah. What he calls shaky, I call some of the best vibrato I've ever had. Way better than mine.
I’ll admit, Tony Jay’s voice is hot, but the actual character of Frollo? Even if they made him younger and traditionally good looking, that’d still be a big “NO” from me.
They definitely did not make Frollo younger.😂 he’s 60.
@@LordBummenbachsBalls They said IF they made him younger, not that he IS younger.
@Monster Hanna Oh, my bad😬.But even then, you’ll probably get some silly fangirls (not being sexist, I’m a girl) who’ll be drooling over him. Well, you already have people drooling over him 🤮
Well Frollo is pretty attractive in some aspects in the original novel. But not at all in this Disney movie.
@@alisanie8195 Frollo jesus christ
Frollo is one of the best Disney villians, and absolutely the single most terrifying in just how realistic he is. He doesn't walk the fantasy line of cool evil like Malificent or Scar. And Gaston, while realistic, is too straightforward to make your skin crawl. Frollo is actually the evils of this world, not of fairytales, which might be due to the source material being a grounded novel.
As unnerving as it is he has that dangerous charisma some may find hot and his voice is just chillingly good, as well as his manner of speech. That stuff evokes a gut reaction, bypassing the brain.
I love this description
Are women actually attracted to him???? I was terrified of Frollo as a kid!!! I think, for the reasons you say, he could be real!!!
@@cintsscha5899 Yes I am attracted to him, he is very hot
@@cintsscha5899 Same here, you're not alone.
Rourke from Atlantis is also one of the evil of this world - colonialism. That's why I hild him in high regard, as well as the movie as a whole.
The idea that hand-drawn animation could turn people away breaks my heart. :(
Same. 3D animation can be great, but hand-drawn animation is GODLY when it's done well
@Raylan Givens they did this trend with stop-motion with Fantastic Mr. Fox also bombing due to people wanting to go see Alvin and the Chipmunks Squeakquel and AVATAR. Missing Link was up against Disneys Dumbo live-action remake and also Avengers Endgame which was originally the highest grossing film of all time. This is why people dont take animation seriously as they dont want to support non-CGI animated films.
Would admit that they turn me away, unless its a disney film. I haven't seen any other animated movie before that isn't Disney besides iron giant. If its disney, I'm all for it and will want to see it or see a new animated film from them.
@@DrDolan2000 I miss the good old days with the beauty of 2D animation. Work of art like Prince of Egypt, Joseph the King of Dreams, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Hercules, Samurai Jack, Original Powerpuff Girls, ect.
@@bigboomer1013 I know this was ages ago, but check out Don Bluth.
Secret of Nimh, All Dogs go to Heaven, Anastasia, and Titan AE are some of my all time favorites. (Aaaaaand hated by almost all my friends) X3
“These chains aren’t what’s holding you back Quasimodo” “Leave me alone.”
“We could always sing again-“ “NOOOOO!”
ROFLMFAO
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I died laughing at that part.
Roll credits
I honestly found NC's jokes about the gargoyles far more cringeworthy than anything they actually did in the movie.
"Frollo being a prevalence sex symbol for years...."
INTERNET WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?
They make everything fucky
@@Arella17 *hands over memory deleting juice* here this will help remove all images and knowledge of Frollo being a...s...sex...symbol...(proceed to be to turn green) trust me it will works, now I'm going to take mine before i lose my dinner.
@@rebeccawhittington8979 eh, i've seen worse.
I was like, "Wait, WHAT?!"
literally every time that "x amount of women have left the room" joke came up, I was like *smh* "nope, nope, clorox wiping this crud out, NO"
"Frollo being a prevalence sex symbol for years...."
*gagging noises intensifies*
Same my dude same
i.. is this an example or a reaction? ...
may)(day
I’m afraid it’s both my dude
This could be taken in two ways
Yeah... you'd think people would ya know not especially in today's climate. I mean breaking a woman's neck on the steps of a church, of the biggest most famous of churches, and immediately then after trying to commit infanticide... sounds like it should be a turnoff. Then there's wrongfully burning a woman for witchcraft with the ultimatum being her (being like barely even a third his age) spending the rest of her days his sex slave? That is like Weinstein 2.0 x 99 which is a mathematical formula that actual scientists are... totallyconductingsomewheremaybeimcertainprobablynotbutabsolutelyareorshouldbeillstopthisnow
Oh and he's also not much to look at and almost guaranteed a wrinkled husk beneath that robe literally the only thing one could say is sorta hot about him is Tony Jay's golden pipes
"Look at that disgusting display" / "Yes, sir!" is one of the best lines in the movie not so much for Phoebus' reply, but for Frollo' hand gesture as he says it.
8:42
K but how DARE you not mention Clopin's voice? He's so underrated; the final note in Bells of Notre Dame gives me chills every time
I WISH I could hit that note! Hell, there's probably opera singers that wish they could!
in the cast recording of the broadway musical, i believe that note is done in his falsetto instead of belt which perfectly shows how high the note is lol
some serious hadestown wait for me type stuff
RIGHT?! Like, how does a human being go that high?
That was pretty good. I also liked the line read for Quasi's 'I am a monster you know', it was adorable, got me right in the feels🥲
Okay but the Gargoyles has one of the best lines in the movie.
“After all we’re only made out stone.”
“We just though maybe you were made of something stronger.”
That shit hits hard, and I’d gladly sit through their crappy song a hundred times to earn that line right before Disney’s greatest climax battle sequence.
Agreed, and if they had left it there, we could have said that they were from the imagination of a very lonely young man like the stage show version. But no, they needed more slapstick.
As someone who is not a fan of the gargoyles, I will admit that there are some great moments for them like the lines you just mentioned.
Agreed
I_i actually like the gargoyles 🙄
That line has such a strong song in the stage show musical version. Well worth a watch if you have the opportunity.
"Saying the B word is a Mickey No-no"
I dunno why but that gave me a really good chuckle
Damn it Critic, I'll never unsee the CGI people
Think of it this way, if they spend less money on the audience animations they spend more on the beautiful animations that are actually important.
I'm honestly shocked for I never noticed that before! Nor did I noticed that Pumba was murdered!
@@marywinchester1322 Idk if that was actually pumba you couldn't really see it, I think he was just saying that to make a joke work.
Same.
The scene were Quasimodo was being "made fun of" was so scary and sad for me as a kid that I always skipped it.
x2
Hell I’m in my 20s now and I still cover my eyes, it’s so cruel 😢
Fun fact: the chant in the Cathedral before "Hellfire" is the Confiteor, a prayer from the Mass and Vespers where the faithful acknowledge their sins and ask for the intercession of the saints and mercy of God.
In the movie, the prayer starts in the Cathedral and continues during Hellfire to contrast with Frollo's hypocrisy and refusal to admit his own faults ("I confess...to Blessed Mary...that I have greatly sinned" vs "Blessed Mary, you know I am a righteous man. Of my virtue I am justly proud"). My favorite example of this contrast is when the robed figures appear:
"It's not my fault ('through my fault'), I'm not to blame ('through my fault'), it was the gypsy, the witch who set this flame ('through my most grievous fault')".
Best of all, Pride is considered the deadliest of the Seven Deadly Sins.
So the line of him saying he is "justly proud," is all the more ironic.
Very interesting, nice.
Nice thank that is interestinf
I knew the preaching before hellfire was something to do with repentance but I never caught or could hear there preaching during the song. That is crazy cool and really highlights His hypocrisy.
Just more reasons to love this movie!
Even as a woman, I could've lived my whole life without knowing Frollo was seen in some circles as a sex symbol 😖
Yeah, that is the one thing that traumatized me in this review
Yeah correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t see how daddy issues can lead to something like this. It just felt weird throughout every time the joke was mentioned.
@@kikoneko4236 it's worse when you realise he's telling the truth.....
It's the Internet: ANYTHING can be a sex symbol. Loki's been one since the first Avengers movie.
@@louisduarte8763 Loki makes sense, at least. People finding Frollo remotely attractive is a concept I don't even want to think about, it's so disturbing.
“What’s wrong with her?”
“She’s crazy!”
“He’s gorgeous!”
I’m dead.
That was so unexpected and hilarious
That was perfect!
I don’t really get the sexual appeal surrounding Frollo. I had the opportunity of understudying our Frollo when I was an acting student at my local professional theatre company. I was 18, and I thought it was discouraging that, even being so young, I was never going to be a Phoebus-type. I was slightly depressed that I would always be cast as the middle-aged male oppressor. Frollo, both in this movie and the stage musical, represents such toxically masculine elements that I always found him to be too creepy to be sexy. I guess the Internet community is so bizarre that it can overlook a predatory masculine character whose ultimatum is to either physically possess a woman or kill her, and will burn down the biggest city in Medieval Europe until he finds her... but Tony Jay’s voice though? 🤷🏼♂️
It’s nothing new for fans to be attracted to a morally reprehensible villain. A horrible person usually makes for a fascinating character.
@@bigkidsclubhq there are many sick fucks out there with weeeeeird rape fantasies. X/
The Latin choir MAKES this film. The constant dies irae and the 'kyrie eleison' whenever something awful is happening is just chilling and incredible
Frollo never put back the stone right because it represents how he plans to crush the gypsies through unethical means and it isn't of the norm. He knows he's in power and that he can break the rules.
I jest but I imagine that's how someone would interpret it.
Been watching this movie for years and I’ve never thought about that. It could also mean that he doesn’t put it back into place because he never intended to ever right his wrongs, and fix his several mistakes despite always wanting to “do the right thing”. According to Frollo, “I fix my mistakes on my own terms, which I never have to do, because I’m *always* right.”
I always thought it was flipped because he’s flipping and crushing the order of natural society, thus making it look unnatural
You don't have to jest, I think the stone was a conscious choice. He's literally using part of Notre Dame to crush the ants, symbolizing his power given to him by the church. But in putting it back the wrong way it shows he's perverted the original purpose of the church, one of beauty and love, to fascism and evil.
Laverne: These chains aren't what's holding you back, Quasimodo!
Quasi: Leave me alone...!
Laverne: ... I mean... We could always try singing again--
Quasi: NOOOOOOOOO!
Alright. That one made me chortle.
Victor: after all we are made of stone
Hugo: we just thought u were made of something stronger
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This is perhaps one of the darkest Disney musicals ever made.
I think so too
Shaine White never thought about that until now but yeah it kind of is 😳
@@tomhulce852 There's no perhaps about it. It IS the darkest Disney musical.
jiminy cricket prehaps
What about song of the south?
Fun fact :
In France, the voice actor of Frollo is same who dubbed Scar in the Lion King, Gandalf in TLOTR and Magneto in X Men. His name was Jean Piat, he passed away two years ago...
R.I.P. Jean Piat!!!!! :( D:
Sad to hear, i am watching it in french language now. To get realistic feel of the movie
oui un cador du doublage
Well, not to one-up, but in Spain, the voice actor for Frollo was also the voice of Mufasa, Darth Vader, Roy Batty and the Terminator. So there.
The scene where the crowd turns on Quasy just after crowning him, makes sense. The whole point of the festival was to crwon the ugliest fool, cheer him but also make fun of him. The line between cheer and insult in this case is very thin. One can see they were kinda hoping something like this would happen.
That's what I actually thought, even when I watch it for the first time. And everytime gets better. I studied History for a while and I loved Medieval History. Part of my fascination had a lot to do with how much Hollywood gets the period when they aren't trying that hard. I even wrote an essay about how accurate is A Knight's Tale. Yes, that "medieval" movie with Queen music.
@naly202 couldn't have said it better myself!
Plus Frollo's guards were the ones who threw the first things at him, and we know Frollo is shown to be a powerful and influential man in this version, so the people probably figured they had their judge's sanction in doing what they did.
Wow, I didn't really know that! That does make a lot of sense. Honestly, I used to think that they were just being mean and cruel to Quasimodo, but now I understand the whole point. So Quasy was sort of "welcomed" by the crowd, in a kind of twisted way. XD
Also, if modern Internet has taught us anything, it’s that people are quick to anger and to jump on a bandwagon-even in as little time as is shown in the movie.
This movie has a special spot in my heart. As a person with a disability (visual impairment), Disney's version of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" was the first story I encountered a character like me. Quasimodo reached out from the screen, grabbed onto my little eight-year-old heart as I sat mesmerized in the theater, and hasn't ever really let go. That set me on my path: I wanted to tell stories like his, too. I went on to double major in Creative Writing and Theatre at college and have written a stage play adaptation of another Victor Hugo novel, "The Man Who Laughs", which tells of the romance between a disfigured clown and a blind girl and the political intrigue that ensues when the clown discovers he's the long-lost son of a rebellious nobleman.
While yes, Disney obviously had to make some changes from the book, I think they captured its overall spirit beautifully in this film. The animation is stellar and the music is just gorgeous. I was lucky enough to see the stage show at La Jolla Playhouse and it was an absolute masterpiece, the perfect blend of Disney and the original novel. I really hope Disney gets the courage to do darker material like this again. Kids, especially those who are part of marginalized communities that are underrepresented in fiction, really need stories like this. It says to them, "You're not alone, and art can and does want to share with the world that there are people like you out there." Bravo to Victor Hugo, thank you to Disney, and blessed be. )O(
Another person with a visual impairment who connected with Quasi?! I thought I was the only one!
@@RavenStarMedia Hey, nice to meet you! And yes, I absolutely did. I'd spend recess climbing the jungle gym, pretending it was Notre Dame and that Quasimodo and I would have all kinds of adventures. His character journey brought up the societal prejudice people with disabilities face and the psychological effects and self-doubt that can have. It also touched on how people like us struggle with our relationships with religion, especially Christianity, which says God created everyone in His image and yet also features countless stories of disability being used as a punishment or test of faith, etc. In the end, Quasimodo realized that the spirit which some call God is simply pure empathy and compassion, a spirit which is symbolized by but can't be contained in a cathedral. That universal understanding is why I still adore the story to this day, even though I'm now a practicing Wiccan having come from the Episcopal church I was raised in. The divine has many names, many faces. That's a theme Victor Hugo explores in all his works.
I loved Esmeralda, too. I was a tomboy as a kid and so I absolutely hated the image of the princess in a frilly dress who did nothing but center her life around Prince Charming. Esmeralda presented another image of womanhood, that a woman should embrace and stay true to herself first and foremost and however the men around her reacted to that was their problem. I also love that Esmeralda was shown to be a good person and was a non-royal. I find it disturbing that, so often in children's media, female characters being respected or having the capability to change the world for the better is so often tied to them being born or marrying into nobility. Esmeralda challenged that and I'll always love her for it.
Wow. No words can describe how correct you are. You touched my heart. I too love that Disney is representing people who have disabilities or deformities ( I have neither of those so I could be completely wrong with the terminology) and that is why the hunchback of Notre dame is my most favourite Disney film of all time.
@@kirrilyjoy4790 Thanks. I'm glad you liked what I wrote. And you were correct on the terminology. :)
@@AliciaNyblade oh ok. That’s good 😋😋😋
To be honest,the gargoyles never bothered me.
Frollo being a sex symbol is highly uncomfortable though.
I’d rather a movie staring them than see one more piece of “sexy frollo art”
Honestly the joke irks me because there is honestly a decent way to examine why Frollo has been having a freaky Renaissance if popularity.
If anyone wants to spend the time and effort into examining why so many people are drawn to a genuinely abusive power figure who seeks to control the protagonists, I'd be down to sit through that.
But making Frollo's possessive, entirely evil motivations a simple punch line really irks me. I'm not saying NC would have done it correctly as I don't think the crew has the ideal amount of psychological training to actually examine it, but the joke is not funny. (At least to me.)
It makes me uncomfortable too. I'm a 32 year old women with kids and a husband, but none of these "saucy romances" starring these abusive, power hungry men (or more recently serial killers 🙄) have turn me on in the slightest.
Very uncomfortable
Yeah, I could have lived my life with out knowing that Frollo was a sex symbol.
Gargoyles were built to scare demons away from religious places, so making a reference to them as "ugly" is kinda warranted. Also them being friends with Quasimodo (which is such a rude name as it not only refers to the holiday but also is mainly to point out how he is "almost the norm" for a human being).
Frollo: AND HE SHALL SMITE THE WICKED AND PLUNGE THEM INTO THE FIREY PIT OF HELL!!
God: (looking up from his newspaper) Huh? Oh. Okay. (snaps fingers)
Heaven sends their regards. ;)
Payback is a bitch 😈
🤣🤣🤣 lol
Devil: (looks up from his phone) Hmm? Ah... alright then, make some room, guys, we've got another batch coming in.
Jesus: He may have been able to repent, but it wasn't worth the price. I am sorry.
I like how Disney turned Esmeralda into an interesting character and gave her some brains. Book Esmeralda annoys me so much!
There are even worse forms of her............ Phelous can tell you allll about them.........
@@Sonichero151 I don't get it
@@Sonichero151 wait a sec... are you talking about Dingo Pictures? Yee?
Are u russian?? That is very cool that someone likes this movie from russia
@@fardolshide9826 old Disney cartoons were really popular actually. I have near 10 dubbed cassettes from times when people used them.
Even though the original source material's ending is much darker, I actually prefer the ending to the movie. Dark and more depressing doesn't automatically mean better and I think the animated movie's ending is more resonant and emotional than everyone just dying at the end.
They both work with the context that they are given. In the book, Quasimodo's "marriage" is mean to be tragic, however it finished the set up the marriage of Phoebus. Both end in tragedy and death. There is no justice because the system still exists. Here, the goal is more acceptance, which also ends fittingly.
I 100% agree. I was very sad when Hunchback went to Broadway with the Disney songs but didn't go with the Disney ending.
And that the good reason why the source material was counted as one of the novels of an horror genre always have sad endings. In "The Pagemaster", that cartoon book named Horror, his literally uncanny resemblance of the titular Hunchback actually summed up the whole thing.
1:30 It also changed Quasimodo into the french child and Esmeralda into the Gypsy. In the original tale, Esmeralda was a french child who was stolen away by gypsies and Quasimodo was left in their place. He was going to be killed by one of the guards, but was stopped by Frollo who took pity on the small child and offered to raise him as his own child, rather than being guilt tripped into it. He spent his free time trying to teach the child to read and write, even sign language when the tolling of the bells made him partially deaf.
If you're a fan of musicals, the stage play adaption Disney did for Hunchback is pretty magnificent. It goes a lot darker, and takes more after the original, while keeping some of the movie's songs and elements and making new changes as well. (such as Quasi being Frollo's nephew, the gargoyles are much better used, and sometimes translate for Quasi- as he is deaf and is played by a deaf actor in some versions.)
I loved the movie growing up but since I've seen the stage play, the cartoon version just doesn't hit as hard.
It's one of the few movies I'd be okay with disney re-making ONLY if it's made for an older audience and follows more in-line with the stage play version
Bring nice frollo back
Isn’t he a child of gypsies in this one too?
@@Arushi701 adopted im sure. He’s like more European looking or albino with red hair so I’m guessing that had him took him in
@@TheMOVIEMANIAC13 Could be, but it could also be because of his deformity and staying inside a bell tower his whole life
Whenever Frollo tosses the archdeacon aside, it's kind if like he's throwing his good side away. Kind of symbolic in a way
IIRC the play version plays with this more, because canonically he is the religious figure. It doesn't go far to assume the dialogue between them was intentionally written in that light. The home of evil frollo is not a place to raise a child; here, in the church, where his good side lives, is more appropriate, even if it wasn't his good half's fault. He shall take responsibility as befits a man of the cloth, but not as the judge; would you really want the judge raising the child unsupervised anyway? Of course not. Etc etc.
Which is funny, given the stage play. Why? Because in the play, Frollo and the archdeacon...are the same person.
@@ZoanBlade90
And Disney divided Claude Frollo into 2 halves Why is this? It’s because of trying to damage control the controversy that’s about to happen anyway about the church’s ⛪️ portrayal in a “Children’s Movie” namely:
“Judge Frollo-the literary character’s bad side” and
the “Unnamed Archdeacon-the literary character’s good side”
Also in the very first scene, the communication between “the 2 halves of Frollo” looks like he’s arguing with himself on how to deal with the deformed baby 👶
One of the gargoyle quotes just before the song did really get a laugh out of me.
"Paris, the city of love, is glowing tonight. True, that's because it's on fire."
Fave lyrics of all the songs lol
“Frollo has become a sex symbol over the years.”
I’m sorry...what. I know we all like bad boys and flawed characters, but... Why? I’m legitimately curious.
Then again the internet made the literal planet into an anime girl, so why am I surprised that they would do this to one of the best Disney villains...
I'm honestly not surprised at all. A lot of Disney characters that you'd least expect to, actually do have fangirls.
I'll copy this from another response I made.
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Media allows us to explore sides of ourselves we usually don't want to suffer in real life. Some people fantasize about being abused because they find the thought titillating but naturally don't want to try it in real life. There are plenty of traumatizing things we practice safely in fiction. Gunfights in action movies and video games are very popular for a reason.
And sexualized a black hole. Which is admittedly pretty awesome for something that will eventually devour everything if entropy doesn't happen first
It's literally just male tsundere
@@adobicanobi1303 uh...no. xD Tsundere are not PURE EVUL...Frollo is extremely wicked and not in the "cute" sense. Beast is the Disney tsundere....but Frollo oh lord no, *don't even compare them please*
I LOVE how the dramatic Gothic choir is used so much throughout the movie instead of either adding pointless songs or no music its SO effective and beautiful! Disney definitely knew how to make sure that Notre Dame's Gothic beauty was done right: the Cathedral looks INCREDIBLE especially for hand drawn animation!
That Gothic Choir would fit right in with a Batman flick.
I'd love to see a Dark Toons episode where Doug just dissects the Hellfire segment. There's so much great animation, voice work, and music at work that really deserves a deeper dive.
Yes! I'd watch that!
F
es de
*F U E E E G O*
Look up nostalgia critic top 11 villain songs. Not as long as dark toons, but he did declare it #1
I imagine it would get taken down for music copyright, as awesome as it would be. 😞
@@bigkidsclubhq bummer
I was lucky enough to see the Musical for Hunchback a few years ago (it was great). My favorite part was at the end Quasimodo is about to toss Frollo off the building and Frollo says, “Quasimodo, you don’t want to do this.” And the Gargoyles, who are an entire church choir behind the set and established to be figments of Quasimodo’s imagination due to his isolation, whisper, “Yes, you do.” It’s chilling.
I never knew that before.
Anyone have a link to the stage version on TH-cam?
So good!!
@@strawberrylime33 Here you go: th-cam.com/video/lKZbtLxxPfg/w-d-xo.html
I wish there was more talking about the latin choir. Its incredible
It really makes the movie feel big and epic. They tapped into some of the magic that made The Lion King so great.
Also, Frolo is right up there with Scar as best Disney villain
Listen, that choir KILLED IT. Do you hear me ? The musical score goes hard in the paint.
Same
@@RyanLBrown9396 it literally is so fucking GOOD im unsure if they used a tried and true church choir but even if they didnt the performance is godly (literally)
During Hellfire they used the Confiteor. Here’s the words in English: “ I confess to Almighty God,
to blessed Mary ever Virgin,
to blessed Michael the Archangel
to blessed John the Baptist,
to the holy Apostles Peter and Paul,
to all the Saints, and to you, brethren,
that I have sinned exceedingly
in thought, word and deed:
through my fault, through my fault,
through my most grievous fault.
Therefore I beseech blessed Mary ever Virgin,
blessed Michael the Archangel,
blessed John the Baptist,
the holy Apostles Peter and Paul,
all the Saints, and you, brethren,
to pray for me to the Lord our God.”
Why was there no mention to Esmeralda's song "God save the outcasts"? It was such an amazing song with such heavenly lyrics.
He did. He called a powerful song.
*booing*
Doug: Hello, I'm the Nostalgia Critic.
I remember i- I LIKE THE DAMN MOVIE.
*CHEERING*
Clayton Baker *let’s go watch something else now*
That actually caught me off-guard! I already knew he likes the movie!
I love how he just knows, now lol.
I take umbrage with the dismissal of Heaven's Light. It serves as a foil to Hell Fire. Quasimodo has never known love of any kind, and he describes it in a soft peaceful way. Frollo is on the other end of the spectrum. He has no love, but pure lust and his song is loud and flashy to reflect that. Emotional Love vs. Physical Lust. Heaven's Light vs. Hell Fire
agape vs. eros, I love it
I imagine you explained this sipping coffee or some shit cliche smart actions
Yeah, that scene is like a reversal of the ending to Fantasia. Instead of absolutely evil followed by absolute good, it's absolute good followed by absolute evil.
Quasimodo was an old grey mouse who wanted to be friends with Stuart..
Critic, Quasi’s voice isn’t ‘shaky’-it’s just the vibrato in his voice. Plenty of broadway singers have this.
Well then, his vibrato is shaky ^^ And I say that though I really like him, even a bit more than my beloved French version
Vibrato must not be overdonned or I feel it becomes commical. It's the job of the composer. Like some opera singer make a duty to fuck up pronunciation and elocution just to seemingly make it more dramatic. But that's another subject.
There's a difference between good and bad vibrato. I don't have a lot of experience in music but the actor singing for Quasi isn't doing good vibrato, there's too much done in places that doesn't need it. Doug's point despite that, he still portrays a genuine sincere character, it over comes some of the shortcomings of his singing.
Vibrato literally means shaky or quivering. And he knows it's common hence his Brightman comment.
@@hung9839 I don't think he is a singer by career. Wasn't he the actor playing Mozart in Amadeus? Great actor.
13:15 Yes, this one isn't great, but let's appreciate the fact that at first we're getting a pure, calm song about love from Quasimodo's point of view (and it's called "HEAVEN'S light") and right after we're getting Frollo's dark song about desire ("HELLfire") - I needed to be older to understand how great this artistic comparison is.
Dedicating this post to the rest of what Frollo's alphabet would of been
G- godless
H -Holy or Heretic
I -Immoral
J-justice
K-Kvetch
L- Lust
M-Misdeed
N-Naive
O- Offense
P- Pride
Q- quixotic
R- righteousness or repent
S -Sloth
T-Temperance or tainted
U-Ungodliness
V-veniality
W-wickedness or Wrath
X-Xenas
Y- Yattier
Z- Zealous
Your Welcome
should L be Lust is bad?
H-heretic*
Yes just yes
Q should’ve been for Quasimodo lol
@@tanimaroy8473 It is bad in the Christian religion.
“Hello I’m Nostalgic Critic...”
*BOOOOOOOOOOO*
“I liked the movie”
Crowd: Yay 😁...let’s watch something else
I like Doug. is that bad?
@@chasehedges6775 Absolutely not, he's a great guy.
Chase Hedges67 Nothing wrong! I believe people are more entertained by Doug screaming his head off at bad movies haha
Wow its like we watched the same video! IM PISSING AND SHITTING MY BRAINS OUT WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
I died. Cuz I was thinking the same thing when he did lion king. I’m like why are you tearing apart a masterpiece!? But he likes to talk about the good and not so good stuff. And I’m like oh. Ok.
"The one you skip before Hellfire"
Um I never skip that one, hell I replay it often times. I know it doesn't get respect but it being such a contrast both in message and in tone only serves to make Hellfire even better. You have Quasi singing about actually having a relationship and loving someone for who they are and being loved for who he is, vs Frollo singing about lust out right objectifying Esmeralda. It creates a great contrast between both their characters as well as the songs.
Not really? It's more like Quasi sees her as an angel and frollo sees her as sin.
Heaven's Light is about purity, romance, and all the god things that come from Hope. You can't fully appreciate Hellfire's desecration without it.
That's a really good way to look at it.
yeah, that was such a stupid comment. Part of what makes Hellfire so powerful in the film is hearing it right after the purity of Quasi's 'Heaven's Light.'
I do skip it :( But only while listening the album, I still have it on a lot of my playlists about musicals, Disney and even in one with inspirational songs.
Fun Fact:
According to Kathy Zielinski, the supervising animator behind the character of Frollo, the MPAA, originally, wanted to give the film a PG-13 rating for the scene where Frollo sniffes Esmeralda's hair. Apparently, the original scene was longer but they decided to cut it down a bit to please the rating boards association.
yeesh i thought only one second was enough
What would they have done if the scene was longer???
He originally sniffed her hair longer? Definitely deserves a PG-13! No one sniffs hair in front of the children! No, you can't sniff your own hair in front of the children too! And now excuse me, i'll go and sniff my cat in privacy!
@@justsomegirlwithoutamustache 😂
@@justsomegirlwithoutamustache cut it or give it a different rating
I think HUNCHBACK is a perfect metaphor for the Catholic church: showing people are capable of the best and the worst of humanity in any given situation
The original, yeah, but the Disney movie changed it; they made Frollo a judge, and the deacon is relatively harmless, if not outright benign. Theirs is more about the corruption of law and order, not the dangers of unchecked faith.
@@seprithlicastia463 Allow me to rephrase: it's a perfect example of how people view faith in the church, and then act because how they veiw it. The church hierarchy doesnt really matter in the film, but the characters actions towards others and eachother do.
Why, oh why, did Disney replace the hand-drawn animation for CGI? Hand-drawn animation looks better and has a certain style to it, almost every cgi movie looks the same.
It's cheaper and faster to create. At least that's what I think.
darthstarkiller1912 Pretty much, yeah.
you should watch the nostalgia critic's editorial analysis on 2D vs 3D animation if you haven't already. personally, like you, i much prefer disney's hand drawn films by far
@@darthstarkiller1912 Actually, the budget for cgi/3D animation is definitely higher than 2D animation, but it is faster to make. For example, Disney's Bolt has a budget of 150 million dollars, while the next Disney movie, The Princess and the Frog, has a budget of 105 million dollars. By the way, that certain style that 2D animation has that 3D animation doesn't have is the fact that it's more artistic looking than 3D while 3D animation looks more live action than artistic. That and 2D animation offers a whole art gallery coming to life with amazing background art and concept art too, which is all even more admirable in blu-ray quality.
jhibbitt 2 I have seen his video on 2d vs 3D animation, I just wish Disney would return to their roots.
Even though the gargoyles are annoying they do deliver one of the best lines in the movie:
“After all we are made of stone, we just thought u were made of something stronger”
Exactly. And personally credit only seems to think that there's two camps of people who have an opinion on the gargoyles when really it's more like four groups according to TV tropes:
Scrappies they may be, but the gargoyles do provide a lot of genuinely Funny Moments, and at the very least contribute to the plot (for example, they're the ones who convince Quasimodo to go to the festival). Which side of the Broken Base a fan falls into often depends on their age. People who were teens or adults when the film came out tend to hate the gargoyles, and people who were children at the time love them. Then there are those who don't think they're unequivocally awful, but don't like them much either; or they like Victor and Laverne but think Hugo is too crass and over the top. And then there are those that think they're cute and funny characters, but they're completely misplaced in this movie and would fit better in either Aladdin or Hercules. One thing that does tend to be generally agreed upon, though, is that the decision to depict the gargoyles as definitely animate and sentient in several scenes, rather than purely figments of Quasimodo's imagination, was a bad idea. Their supporters like to point out that they're better foster parents for Quasimodo than Frollo, and Quasimodo probably would've grown up a bitter person if it hadn't been for them.
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Personally while I do think they'd be out of place once in awhile let's be honest it's because of their antics that this movie even got away with a G rating. Basically us kids we would go to see the gargoyles and then totally get the more adult stuff with Frolli once we get older
Obviously Tony Jay deservingly gets a lot of credit for his excellent performance here, but I feel like Tom Hulce’s also deserves similar love
YES! Yes it does! I loved Tom Hulce's performance in that film so much!
Never noticed those cgi people in the crowd lol
Now I will see them always
Thanks Critic, thanks...
I knew the crowd was ugly....
Now they're ugly ugly
"...and even if you have seen it, watch it again. There's always something to appreciate with every view..."
...and by appreciate, he meant see something completely horrifying you'll never UN-SEE.
I never noticed them either! I can't believe it haha
In a behind the scenes video I saw many years ago, the filmmakers revealed only a few models were computer generated with the same animation and cloned over and over again to simulate the crowd, as drawing all of them would take them ages. This technique was also used in the stampede scene from The Lion King.
The animators said that in the Feast of Fools sequence, the only thing that actually changed about the characters were the masks. Ironically, they actually expressed nobody would notice until they talked about it.
I dont hate the gargoyles, but they were unneeded and almost annoying at times.
this comment ^^
you did it, you put it into words, i always felt iffy about them
The stage musical reinterpreted the gargoyles very well.
It's really just the fat one though. The other two are ok.
@@shwahgamer that one for me had a funny line or maybe two but that was it
YES! Finally. I love lavern with the rest! But God that song they sing about Esmeralda is just... annoying to place it nicely.
“I’m sending it back to hell where it belongs”
*Disney Logo*
A FAMILY picture...
Nanana-nana...
@@MadTurnip You beat me to it
*Disney logo, woman screams*
did you not see bridge to terabithia? :P
"I mean we could always sing again" "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" always makes me laugh hahah
I blame Frollo on becoming a sex symbol on Tony Jay. His voice and his line delivery~ It’s beautifully done ^_^
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I like him as Chair Face Chippendale from The Tick.
He nails villians,Same with simon templeman
Tony Jay's voice is so freaking cool. So deep and booming. My headphones can barely handle that badass tone...
I want to take a bath of his voice.
Speaking of dark elements: the old man in the cage who yells, "I'm free!" was in what was literally called, "the cage". It was a form of torture used to extract confessions and if one was not made the victim was left outside to die. Instead of making it a joke they should've just left him in the cage hanging off the side of a building until near the end where it's empty
oh yes, gibbeting. with openings just big enough so the birds could come in and peck your flesh and eyes bit by bit. most criminals or condemned were already near death when they were displayed, but it was a horrific way to go.
Same, I also didn't know what it actually was. Obviously, even as a kid, I could tell it was something a criminal would be put in, but thought it was like any other jail cell, just out in the open. But his line "I'm free, I'm free...dang it!" was my sister's and I's favorite line and we would quote it all the time, which my mom hated, because of the word "dang it."
What I always loved about Hellfire is that there's a moment in the song, after Frollo learns that Esmeralda escaped, where he stops talking about the fire and starts talking to it. It's a brilliant swap in his motivation.
Doug impersonating swooning women killed my libido faster than my antidepressants.
I feel this on an emotional level
I pissed myself when I heard it lol
As a non-binary afab, I felt so dysphoric when I heard this from Doug >:
I had to stop watching the review lmao I couldn’t handle it
Man, I just got back on my meds after missing a shipment. Libido always goes outta wack when I go off...
You can tell he likes this movie because he's smirking in the thumbnail.
I mean, he's already gone on record plenty of times in the past to say he's a big fan of this movie.
And don't forget that the Hellfire song was number 1 on his Disney Villains song list.
He’s having a friggin ball
I was still excited to hear him talk about it. Granted, pretty much anything is warranting of a Nostalgia Critic video these days, but even if he likes a movie or isn’t sure what to think, he’ll sometimes apply more analysis to it. And he cast himself as Frollo in the thumbnail, haha. 😂
And he has already mentioned that he loved it during disneycember
How did the darkest disney movie only get a G rating? There's so many sexual undertones and themes of execution in this one.
Cause Disney animation????
Inside Out was PG, while this was G.
Let that sink in.
@Blue Skeptic Toy Story 3 definitely deserves PG more. Lotso is the closest we'll get to Stalin in a kid's film, and the scenes leading to the incinerator (as well as the incinerator itself) are more adult than anything in the other movies mentioned by a good margin
@@omafivargas9712 Toy Story in general was pretty dark, basically genocide but with toys.
I mean, they even rated Sausage Party as a rated G because "it's anIMaTioN tHAt'S fOr kIdZ"
The fact that he immediately had to preface it with "I like the movie" so people wouldn't riot. Lol! I love Nostalgia Critic.
Also, I have an idea on why they made Frollo's eyes and mouth glow yellow like that in his last scene. I think it was a visual reference to him having gone from this "holy man of God" to basically a demon and wicked, first metaphorically and then for real once he plunges into the metaphorical molten fires of Hell below. Just my take on it. Either way, I agree--it's epic.
People should definitely have a disny movie night. This one would make it every time lol
Esmeralda: "Quasimodo?"
Quasimodo: "Esmeralda."
Frollo: "SHE LIVES!" (takes out a sword)
That's how the big fans of the Victor Hugo book reacted when they first saw that scene. 😂😂
Yeah, but don’t forget Hugo basically rewrote his own story to be about Esmeralda later on
BOO! How dare you skip Heaven's Light? Having it back to back with Hellfire strengthens both and gets to the heart of the film. Quasimodo's sweet and innocent unrequited love gets sharply juxtaposed with Frollo's possessive lust. Without Heaven's Light Hellfire is epic, yes, but not as good.
You're asking too much from the moron who thinks Notre Dame is the name of the city even tho they mention Paris by name several times. Also, he loves to assume that everybody deep down hates the same things he hates.
Don't bother. Heaven's Light is awesome, and no dumb critic can take that away from us.
TOTALLY agreed.
So Basically
Dark elements and religious themes: good
Talking gargoyles and slapstick: bad
well duh...
brandon roberts it is, I just wish Disney could go all the way. The movie clearly didn’t call for that kind of comedy and was generally supposed to be for an older crowd. It’s the sole reason why I’ve always said that studio ghibli is a superior Disney in this regard. They can do lighter or much more serious films dependent on what the story calls for. They never feel the need to pander to younger audiences and have the balls to do something more mature or straight on occasion.
Is not like is bad, it doesnt fit with the dark tone from the movie, this is not the type of story disney should do, the movie is a tonal mess
Not all slapstick, just unfunny slapstick