Hey Everyone, *Here is my review of the first season of Brave New World, the new Peacock Series. I say a 7 to 7.5 out of 10. Honestly had way lower expectations, didn't even think I would like it in the least bit, so was pleasantly surprised there.* *Do forgive me if there is a detail I have missed here on there, it has literally been ages since I read this thing, like 25 years or something* Let me know what you thought of the first season.
I know that was such a good moment especially that he probably didn't know, if he would've it would have been his first instinct to mention it earlier out of the memories he saw, I mean yeah Director killed but those bullets killed an entire bunch of Alphas.
One more reason for why they changed the plot is Huxley himself, if I remember correctly later in life he said that he regretted the original pessimistic ending and he would have written a different, more optimistic one had he been given a chance, because he believed that even though it's hard to behave free within the systems people should still try doing it.
I never heard of that bit, but they did not just change the ending, they killed away some key details, and it is understandable by the way, different times, different stories.
you have to read island its his take on a utopia in the same world as brave new world... like its posed as some land besides the savage land or New London
I always find it interesting the shade a book can cast over its tv show adaptation. So far every bad review for this show is rooted entirely in the idea that it didn't stay true to the original but as someone who had no idea about the original or even that it was coming out I loved it. I saw a poster, decided to watch it and was pretty interested in the world that was built and how it was shot.
I don't think this is addressed at me, because I am sure I gave it a very good review. I would have still though had the same problems with some aspects, but in the end I think overall it was decent.
I would imagine it's likely because the changes made to the show run entirely counter to Huxley's thesis, which begs the question of why his work was adapted in the first place. It makes sense with a film like Starship Troopers, where Heinlein's original novella is effectively being parodied to voice the opinion that jingoism is...bad
It's been decades since I read the book so there is so much I didn't remember - even though I've been quoting out of it since the 70's - "Ending is better than mending". Consumerism. I'm currently working toward being a minimalist and that slogan and what it represents stays with me. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I think about our trash all over the planet, in our oceans, in our wild life's stomachs and eventually in ours in the form of micro plastics. Yeah, I guess that is what Debbie Downer would add to the conversation. Oh well.
I think this is a fair handed review. I read the book; I watched the show; I enjoyed them both. I spent some time browsing the comments here. I'm happy that so many people are passionate about the show, and it makes me hopeful that NBC will buy in for a second season (wherever that will lead us.)
Great review, but you forgot to mention two important aspects from the novel; first being the downright religious worship of Henry Ford by that New World society (it's all over the novel) and second, the overly satirical undertones of the novel, something lacking (for better or worse) in this very good TV adaptation. Plus, John and Linda lived with Native Americans, the "savage park" was located in their reservation area, the novel also identifies almost the whole world being in this state of New Order, this TV series is unclear with that, it seems it's just this one city of New London? There is also a partial similarity in how John ends up at the very end, in the book he chooses a reclusive life within the borders of New World society, living in a lighthouse and hunting in nearby woods, often daydreaming of Lenina (and eventualy, commiting suicide). TV version of John ends up living reclusive in an abandoned building, fishing in nearby river and also daydreaming of Lenina...
I did actually mention that close to the end of the video, didn't refer to it as worship, but you get the jest of it at the end of the video. I agree they never mentioned the World State in its entirety but I would say it was kind of implied with the long train ride to the Epsilons homes, with them starting the journey at night and ending there closer to the morning.
I walked into the series with my heart held in my hand as the Novel is one of my all-time favorites.. instead i got a GOT/Matrix/Westworld mashup, and i'm sure the producers want to capitalize on that..because, why not, it's the Netflix era..(God help us should they decide to make a 1984 series..) Don't get me wrong the series is nice, art direction is cool, and the modernity touch was good, and of course the now ubiquitous themes of 'equality' 'rebellion' and 'control' are there to remind us that we live in turbulent times and a new era is dawning on us with all of its uncertainty. but despite all that, i truly would have wished that they had made a smaller and more cohesive short series and remain as true to the Novel as possible.. all that said, i enjoyed most of it..
If it had remained true to the novel then you would easily know every outcome in the series, and that takes away the excitement and suspense in my opinion
There was a mini series made on Brave New World. Do searches on it. It was on television, I think in the 90's. I've tried to find it somewhere to watch again don't believe I did.
I prefer the series especially since my wife Lara Peake was in it I loved every minute of her in that show it was so great Lara I love you so much I want to be with you you’ve always been my number one love and I think about you everyday knowing how much I care about you and your forever mine baby 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@@LizRealGirlBeauty I will admit yes my wife Lara was definitely terrifying in that show but hey at least it came to an end although it did break my heart but hey it’s only a show and it is what it is
I think your rating of 7.5 out of 10 is fair enough. I gotta say tho, I was expecting more from the moment I saw Grant Morrinson put his name on it. I mean, the book has some dated premises, but overall it was way ahead of its time. I felt like there was no protagonist in the series. For a moment it was Bernard, then it was John, then Lenina... it kept changing. John was not interesting enough and I have my thoughts about the actor... I think he should feel more like he was designed to represent the viewer in the story, but to me it felt like Lenina did a better job at that most of the time. Bernard was all over the place... he's a nice guy, he's a bad guy, he's a loser... the last one defines him better I guess. Helm was my favorite character, Hannah progressed so well during the show. Anyway, they left it in a cliffhanger, hope it comes back for a second season and that we get to see more of GM's mind into it.
I started enjoying the series but got bounced out with a pay wall. Your review shows it’s worth it to continue. The seeds of jealousy are apparent with Bernard from the beginning. Great job Geek on so many points, especially for a savage.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 I have joked that if we're going to end in a dystopia I'd pick this one, but of course I can't ignore that I'd be stuck in the Savages.
Was a pretty great adoption of the book and also was pretty surprised by it, did´t like there own matrix plot which kinda makes no sense where the savages come from and that this was even somehow a plot point where Jon burned it down because he is from outside makes just no sense to me and seems like they somehow needed to fit this just in. Otherwise from the world building it was pretty amazing and a faithful modernization of the book i think which even added extra debts to the whole story.
My favorite line of the show- "This is my body, and I want to be the only one in it." It really drives what they go through having to be shared with everyone else, they have no autonomy over their own body. I think they pushed the orgies to try to desensitize the audience to them, just like the residents are. Lenina was clearly suffering from PTSD, but in a culture without violence or even natural deaths nobody knows what's going on with her and nobody can help her except John, since he's lived with those things. I loved the show, I've watched it over a dozen times in the last year. I just started a rewatch with a friend, and he was drawn in really quickly with the incredibly high quality of the production ($100 million), and now he's obsessed too. Also, the soundtrack was just outstanding, both the original compositions and the music they used were just phenomenal. Several of the songs get stuck in my head often.
clockwork orange claims the flaw can be conditioned away. deltas would have a huge conditioning preventing them to become violent imo, unlike here where a few sentences were enough to trigger them. there should have been a series of events instead of "cant be conditioned away.." the deltas also just got away with resisting orders, st that would have huge consequences, like preparing to take them to reconditioning with beta force troops or st. then the mass gang bang scene was pathetic, john ended up in the middle just like that and acted like a stupid girl. and there are too many pointless intimate scenes dragging time. also, the first few episodes are a bit boring.
The first few episodes are introductory, laying the ground, I know we are kind of getting into everything being quick and meaningless and less time consuming even at the cost of the story, but I prefer things being done right. Clockwork Orange is a story of its own, it does not have to necessarily mean that every story written has to consider it a science because it is not. I agree one the sexual stuff dragging, I personally thought it was a bit crude and too much the way they just had it every bit of the way. However though, John acting the way he did made him a lot closer to the novel counterpart than he ended up being by the end of the season's run so I am not complaining there.
@@WhattheGeek i think you can introduce better than this. introductions dont have to be boring at all. i personally think theyre potentially more interesting than the action parts fe. especially in dystopian settings, where whole cultures are portrayed. i agree other stories dont matter, but that wasnt my point. the collapse is one of the most interesting parts, but cheaply done imo. well acted, but its like i tried to explain already. they can easily brainwash a beta, but those resisting deltas are too difficult to adjust, ok. and just let them do their thing then and dont expect any trouble, especially since its been pointed out that they know that within the rules of this story, unlike co, violence cant be counterconditioned. ok. the novel counterpart of john is the biggest weakness of the og story imo. he is supposed to be a free independent thinker. but hes just an annoying brat. shakespear btw introduced a lot of vocab to the english language. it isnt an exageration to call him the father of the language. he is the shaker of the spear, mover of culture. some say he was sir francis drake and one of the biggest geniuses of all time. but john in the story even lacks common sense.
the 80s bbc tv version is leaps and bounds ahead of this, very very dated, but leaps and bounds ahead. this was so hollywood, reading the book you envision an r18 psychological literal orgy of the senses, instead you get mild sex being depicted and inaccuracies that will just make you mad, especially if you are a fan of the book. i think it would have made a better manga, like snowpeircer (not that it was made by manga but depicted much better than brave new world)
Well if you are a fan of the book or not, which I am, you will look at this as an adaptation, making it no one claimed it is an exact replica, but now you make me wanna watch the BBC version. What I am saying though is, you gotta distinguish between adaptation and a claim it is true to the book
The show remained true to the concept of Huxley. The problem to a stable society is humans. So kill them all. That's an interesting conclusion. I recently read the book and was quite moved or let's say intrigued by it. For me the essence of the book lies in the dialogue between mond and savage. In that brief dialogue, Huxley explored his own observations about humanity and it's insatiable appetite for faith, hope and the unattainable. I think this series in many ways has appropriated how gender was perceived back in the 1930s, while still managing the key plot points. The betrayal that John witnesses from lenina, felt more real in this series. However, it didn't manage to shock me like the book did. The fact that John realises his need to be free is futile in a perfect Utopia. And hence kills himself. That sombre tragedy had immense poetry behind it. While the series does a fantastic job of staying true to so many things, that shock is something I sincerely hoped that the series would have tried to justify. Alas. Feels like a Soma holiday.
I thought as a fan of the novel, it was horrible, it didn’t even try to interpret the book, and if it did then it was a complete joke, it was sad and I was looking forward to it, but it just did a terrible job bribing the book to life
It was all a SIM ?! the only real human flesh was John?,+ the 9 remaining humans in the circle-bunker :) ... Lenina end scene is her still in the sim !? and the sprite scene with John was just a VR memory playback ... "super advanced nanotech replicator " is whats in the golden box potentially, the replicator that creates eye implants etc !? ... awsome awsome tv series looking forward to season 2 to verify it all, could go many directions ... PS: Helm and Bernard are possible VR / AI Holograms also, why all NLDN citizens could pass through the Blue barrier etc, making john a AI / Hologram aswell !!? again referencing back to the Gold Box, the super advanced nanotech / VR / AI hologram Tech, carried by a Hologram AI Bernard ??!
What the Geek season 2 will tell :) ... was a battle of 2 AI’s !? World mom and her “offspring” new AI Program Indra ‘daughter’?, even dialog between them, “ Do you even know if it’s a simulation or real? How can you tell the difference ?! “ world mom. ep7?!
Maybe it's because it's on Peacock but I'm surprised this show didn't get more hype. BNW was one of my favorite books growing up and I'm always curious when someone makes an adaption to the screen. I was looking forward to this when I saw the trailer but completely forgot about it until I found out recently that Comcast includes Peacock. I thought the cast did an outstanding job, the writing was terrific, and, while it might not follow the book beat for beat (though it has been a long time since I read it), I think the characters and theme stayed mostly true. I had my doubts but I really enjoyed season 1. And... apparently it's cancelled. Can't say I'm surprised with NBC and Fox always cancelling good Sci-Fi before their time. Oh well. Season 1 still makes for a decent standalone mini-series. Originally thought "how can they make this into a TV show?" prior to watching it. After finishing the season though, I was looking forward to where they might go in the future. Too bad we'll never know, just like the book I guess. Time to reread the book...
I like this adaptation more than the book. John was more realistic and Lenina was given more autonomy. I liked the framing that Indra gave. The actors did fantastic. I felt like too much time was spent in the savage lands, but I guess it was necessary so we could see it mirrored later. I hope there is a season 2.
Actually I believe each served a purpose, the novel had one message that the writer set to deliver, the series had more than one purpose, the one from the book wasn't really the most important if a purpose at all.
I get some characters had diff accents , but I absolutely HATED how some people called him “BERNAD” almost with a silent R , and some called him “BER-NARD” 😂
Im usually super forgiving of the tv adaptations. Not for this one though. They completely changed all the main characters in this and i dont really think the changes made sense in the end lol. The show forced me to go back and re read the book because it made me think all the details went over my head but I was right, they changed sooooo much of the plot lol
I didn't like the way they changed the end. Other than that I loved this adaptation. When i look at an adaptation I don't mind changes IF the changes show that the writers still understand the themes of the original. My managed to maintain the farcical soap opera aspect of the novel, while at the same time showing that the situation here is 100% serious and that the farcicality comes from the programmed shallowness of their own society which is designed to keep their lives trivial and simple.
I knew they would change the ending by the way, I mean Peacock, new streaming service, if this is a winner then they make a new season, kind of expected it more than new it, but high expectation there.
I disagree that they understood and expressed the central theme of the original novel. Huxley may have later come to regret the pessimistic ending, but it perfectly illustrates the level of control that the central government has over everyone's lives, including the "savages" and John. Having one man come in and radically change the system effectively negates the entire body of work of the world order, as their work to genetically and psychologically engineer a utopia would fail because...reasons. In the original work the lower castes would never have rebelled because they simply would have been mentally and psychologically unable to understand the concept. They wouldn't have been so zealous to "reclaim" their rights because they had never had them in the first place. In fact, John tries to do precisely that after Linda dies, throwing massive quantities of soma out a window (IIRC), and everyone Helmholtz panics and desperately tries to stop him. Even at the end, Helmholtz is put on an island of other "free" citizens, rather than cheaply disposed of as he would have been in a work like 1984. Simply put, the most frightening aspect of the novel is that the rebellion presented in the show would be genuinely impossible, as the state has truly conquered freedom and dissent.
@@WhattheGeek you have got it completely wrong. this is about the freak convergence of capitalism AND communism. the pursuit of consumption and production coupled with mass conformity. The use of vast un-thinking, un-feeling communes that are only units of labour.
Well it is based on the novel with the same name, it just released its entire first season on Peacock in one go and it is pretty good, not perfect but pretty good.
It is not, in any way, similar to The 100. They're two very different shows. But this show is good and worth watching even though I'm a little disappointed that it wasn't a faithful adaptation of the book.
Really, the changes to the story make it better. John's mother being a grossly overweight and disgusting as she died is not conducive to a good video. Other than that change, the story seems to be mostly faithful to the book.
There's a point to her being obese and relapsing into soma, though. She contrasts with the people who stayed in New London, as they effectively look young and healthy until their execution at 60, as well as illustrates that someone who is indoctrinated from birth to behave hedonistically would likely not be able to control herself and end up severely obese. Giving her a noble death, sacrificing herself for her son, also completely removes her act of distancing herself from John up to the point of her death, choosing instead to full all her time with empty pleasures rather than with the son she raised
As a huge fan of the book, I honestly thought they brought it into the modern perspective. The book is really dated and when you are adapting something so dated you need to change some parts of it. I feel like the drifts from the book are rather justified and they did them really well in my opinion. Overall I'd give it an 8 or 9 out of 10
@@WhattheGeek it definitely was a modern adaptation of the book. I don't see why the reviews on rotten tomato gave it such a low score. It doesn't deserve anything below a 7 at least
I really wish TV series wouldn't be so complicated that it needs a youtube video to explain it. I think this is a case of needing to read the book first to understand the TV series.
Hey Everyone,
*Here is my review of the first season of Brave New World, the new Peacock Series. I say a 7 to 7.5 out of 10. Honestly had way lower expectations, didn't even think I would like it in the least bit, so was pleasantly surprised there.*
*Do forgive me if there is a detail I have missed here on there, it has literally been ages since I read this thing, like 25 years or something*
Let me know what you thought of the first season.
He's more than just an Alpha + they say he's an exotic as well like the first director his dad.
I did mention he is an alpha exotic :P
When he said you put the bullets in the guns John. I was like damn that's good writing. It was like the best double entendre I ever heard
I know that was such a good moment especially that he probably didn't know, if he would've it would have been his first instinct to mention it earlier out of the memories he saw, I mean yeah Director killed but those bullets killed an entire bunch of Alphas.
That used to be called just normal writing
@@merc9nine you don't really see good writing like that anymore
I haven’t seen the series yet, but is it a conservative view of a horrific and brainwashed dystopia like in the novel?
@@ANT96-x8d yes
One more reason for why they changed the plot is Huxley himself, if I remember correctly later in life he said that he regretted the original pessimistic ending and he would have written a different, more optimistic one had he been given a chance, because he believed that even though it's hard to behave free within the systems people should still try doing it.
I never heard of that bit, but they did not just change the ending, they killed away some key details, and it is understandable by the way, different times, different stories.
you have to read island its his take on a utopia in the same world as brave new world... like its posed as some land besides the savage land or New London
I always find it interesting the shade a book can cast over its tv show adaptation. So far every bad review for this show is rooted entirely in the idea that it didn't stay true to the original but as someone who had no idea about the original or even that it was coming out I loved it. I saw a poster, decided to watch it and was pretty interested in the world that was built and how it was shot.
I don't think this is addressed at me, because I am sure I gave it a very good review. I would have still though had the same problems with some aspects, but in the end I think overall it was decent.
It's really a synergy of both your opinions.
In my opinion 😉
I would imagine it's likely because the changes made to the show run entirely counter to Huxley's thesis, which begs the question of why his work was adapted in the first place. It makes sense with a film like Starship Troopers, where Heinlein's original novella is effectively being parodied to voice the opinion that jingoism is...bad
It's been decades since I read the book so there is so much I didn't remember - even though I've been quoting out of it since the 70's - "Ending is better than mending". Consumerism. I'm currently working toward being a minimalist and that slogan and what it represents stays with me. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I think about our trash all over the planet, in our oceans, in our wild life's stomachs and eventually in ours in the form of micro plastics. Yeah, I guess that is what Debbie Downer would add to the conversation. Oh well.
I agree, I don't know how I missed this novel growing up but I did, and now I want to read it and Huxley's other works.
I think this is a fair handed review. I read the book; I watched the show; I enjoyed them both. I spent some time browsing the comments here. I'm happy that so many people are passionate about the show, and it makes me hopeful that NBC will buy in for a second season (wherever that will lead us.)
Thanks and I agree.
Each of the two has its own flavor in a way.
Great review, but you forgot to mention two important aspects from the novel; first being the downright religious worship of Henry Ford by that New World society (it's all over the novel) and second, the overly satirical undertones of the novel, something lacking (for better or worse) in this very good TV adaptation. Plus, John and Linda lived with Native Americans, the "savage park" was located in their reservation area, the novel also identifies almost the whole world being in this state of New Order, this TV series is unclear with that, it seems it's just this one city of New London? There is also a partial similarity in how John ends up at the very end, in the book he chooses a reclusive life within the borders of New World society, living in a lighthouse and hunting in nearby woods, often daydreaming of Lenina (and eventualy, commiting suicide). TV version of John ends up living reclusive in an abandoned building, fishing in nearby river and also daydreaming of Lenina...
I did actually mention that close to the end of the video, didn't refer to it as worship, but you get the jest of it at the end of the video.
I agree they never mentioned the World State in its entirety but I would say it was kind of implied with the long train ride to the Epsilons homes, with them starting the journey at night and ending there closer to the morning.
I walked into the series with my heart held in my hand as the Novel is one of my all-time favorites..
instead i got a GOT/Matrix/Westworld mashup, and i'm sure the producers want to capitalize on that..because, why not, it's the Netflix era..(God help us should they decide to make a 1984 series..)
Don't get me wrong the series is nice, art direction is cool, and the modernity touch was good, and of course the now ubiquitous themes of 'equality' 'rebellion' and 'control' are there to remind us that we live in turbulent times and a new era is dawning on us with all of its uncertainty.
but despite all that, i truly would have wished that they had made a smaller and more cohesive short series and remain as true to the Novel as possible..
all that said, i enjoyed most of it..
It was enjoyable, I liked as I mentioned most of the changes, even though I felt some were a little bit excessive.
If it had remained true to the novel then you would easily know every outcome in the series, and that takes away the excitement and suspense in my opinion
There was a mini series made on Brave New World. Do searches on it. It was on television, I think in the 90's. I've tried to find it somewhere to watch again don't believe I did.
I prefer the series especially since my wife Lara Peake was in it I loved every minute of her in that show it was so great Lara I love you so much I want to be with you you’ve always been my number one love and I think about you everyday knowing how much I care about you and your forever mine baby 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
She was... terrifying.
@@LizRealGirlBeauty I will admit yes my wife Lara was definitely terrifying in that show but hey at least it came to an end although it did break my heart but hey it’s only a show and it is what it is
I think your rating of 7.5 out of 10 is fair enough. I gotta say tho, I was expecting more from the moment I saw Grant Morrinson put his name on it. I mean, the book has some dated premises, but overall it was way ahead of its time. I felt like there was no protagonist in the series. For a moment it was Bernard, then it was John, then Lenina... it kept changing. John was not interesting enough and I have my thoughts about the actor... I think he should feel more like he was designed to represent the viewer in the story, but to me it felt like Lenina did a better job at that most of the time. Bernard was all over the place... he's a nice guy, he's a bad guy, he's a loser... the last one defines him better I guess. Helm was my favorite character, Hannah progressed so well during the show. Anyway, they left it in a cliffhanger, hope it comes back for a second season and that we get to see more of GM's mind into it.
I hope they do give it a season 2 too.
Brilliant Show! - I'm looking forward to the second season 🤞 (keep fingers crossed) hopefully Bernard doesn't become villain , will be disappointing.
Marx is the villian
I didn't even know they were doing this series!
Haha, I have know for a while, well a couple of months actually. Hoped it would be good, it is not great but it is still good.
Neither did I until I saw an ad and watched it. First time ads actually worked on me.
I started enjoying the series but got bounced out with a pay wall. Your review shows it’s worth it to continue. The seeds of jealousy are apparent with Bernard from the beginning. Great job Geek on so many points, especially for a savage.
I know, as a savage I surprised myself, haha.
I found it odd that an emotionless society with soma and all that engineering, there was so many emotional issues
It is what was said in the end, they tried to recondition something that cannot be reconditioned.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 I have joked that if we're going to end in a dystopia I'd pick this one, but of course I can't ignore that I'd be stuck in the Savages.
@@LizRealGirlBeauty Lol, thx for the good laugh :D
Was a pretty great adoption of the book and also was pretty surprised by it, did´t like there own matrix plot which kinda makes no sense where the savages come from and that this was even somehow a plot point where Jon burned it down because he is from outside makes just no sense to me and seems like they somehow needed to fit this just in. Otherwise from the world building it was pretty amazing and a faithful modernization of the book i think which even added extra debts to the whole story.
I like it in general and I am looking forward to season 2.
Oh. I like this documentary!
Shows our world so well
I know it does reflect on it quite well. And I think you meant to say series.
My favorite line of the show-
"This is my body, and I want to be the only one in it."
It really drives what they go through having to be shared with everyone else, they have no autonomy over their own body.
I think they pushed the orgies to try to desensitize the audience to them, just like the residents are.
Lenina was clearly suffering from PTSD, but in a culture without violence or even natural deaths nobody knows what's going on with her and nobody can help her except John, since he's lived with those things.
I loved the show, I've watched it over a dozen times in the last year. I just started a rewatch with a friend, and he was drawn in really quickly with the incredibly high quality of the production ($100 million), and now he's obsessed too.
Also, the soundtrack was just outstanding, both the original compositions and the music they used were just phenomenal. Several of the songs get stuck in my head often.
The great, and tragic thing about John was that he was of both cultures and both cultures (even to some extent Linda) treat John so terribly.
clockwork orange claims the flaw can be conditioned away. deltas would have a huge conditioning preventing them to become violent imo, unlike here where a few sentences were enough to trigger them. there should have been a series of events instead of "cant be conditioned away.." the deltas also just got away with resisting orders, st that would have huge consequences, like preparing to take them to reconditioning with beta force troops or st.
then the mass gang bang scene was pathetic, john ended up in the middle just like that and acted like a stupid girl. and there are too many pointless intimate scenes dragging time. also, the first few episodes are a bit boring.
The first few episodes are introductory, laying the ground, I know we are kind of getting into everything being quick and meaningless and less time consuming even at the cost of the story, but I prefer things being done right.
Clockwork Orange is a story of its own, it does not have to necessarily mean that every story written has to consider it a science because it is not.
I agree one the sexual stuff dragging, I personally thought it was a bit crude and too much the way they just had it every bit of the way.
However though, John acting the way he did made him a lot closer to the novel counterpart than he ended up being by the end of the season's run so I am not complaining there.
@@WhattheGeek i think you can introduce better than this. introductions dont have to be boring at all. i personally think theyre potentially more interesting than the action parts fe. especially in dystopian settings, where whole cultures are portrayed.
i agree other stories dont matter, but that wasnt my point. the collapse is one of the most interesting parts, but cheaply done imo. well acted, but its like i tried to explain already. they can easily brainwash a beta, but those resisting deltas are too difficult to adjust, ok. and just let them do their thing then and dont expect any trouble, especially since its been pointed out that they know that within the rules of this story, unlike co, violence cant be counterconditioned. ok.
the novel counterpart of john is the biggest weakness of the og story imo. he is supposed to be a free independent thinker. but hes just an annoying brat. shakespear btw introduced a lot of vocab to the english language. it isnt an exageration to call him the father of the language. he is the shaker of the spear, mover of culture. some say he was sir francis drake and one of the biggest geniuses of all time. but john in the story even lacks common sense.
the 80s bbc tv version is leaps and bounds ahead of this, very very dated, but leaps and bounds ahead. this was so hollywood, reading the book you envision an r18 psychological literal orgy of the senses, instead you get mild sex being depicted and inaccuracies that will just make you mad, especially if you are a fan of the book. i think it would have made a better manga, like snowpeircer (not that it was made by manga but depicted much better than brave new world)
Well if you are a fan of the book or not, which I am, you will look at this as an adaptation, making it no one claimed it is an exact replica, but now you make me wanna watch the BBC version.
What I am saying though is, you gotta distinguish between adaptation and a claim it is true to the book
@@WhattheGeek im saying for an adaptation it wasnt great if you saw the bbc version
The show remained true to the concept of Huxley. The problem to a stable society is humans. So kill them all. That's an interesting conclusion. I recently read the book and was quite moved or let's say intrigued by it. For me the essence of the book lies in the dialogue between mond and savage. In that brief dialogue, Huxley explored his own observations about humanity and it's insatiable appetite for faith, hope and the unattainable. I think this series in many ways has appropriated how gender was perceived back in the 1930s, while still managing the key plot points. The betrayal that John witnesses from lenina, felt more real in this series. However, it didn't manage to shock me like the book did. The fact that John realises his need to be free is futile in a perfect Utopia. And hence kills himself. That sombre tragedy had immense poetry behind it. While the series does a fantastic job of staying true to so many things, that shock is something I sincerely hoped that the series would have tried to justify. Alas.
Feels like a Soma holiday.
take a shot every time he says "pages of the novel"
Cool stuff man.
Incredibly annoying lol
I thought as a fan of the novel, it was horrible, it didn’t even try to interpret the book, and if it did then it was a complete joke, it was sad and I was looking forward to it, but it just did a terrible job bribing the book to life
It was all a SIM ?! the only real human flesh was John?,+ the 9 remaining humans in the circle-bunker :) ... Lenina end scene is her still in the sim !? and the sprite scene with John was just a VR memory playback ... "super advanced nanotech replicator " is whats in the golden box potentially, the replicator that creates eye implants etc !? ... awsome awsome tv series looking forward to season 2 to verify it all, could go many directions ... PS: Helm and Bernard are possible VR / AI Holograms also, why all NLDN citizens could pass through the Blue barrier etc, making john a AI / Hologram aswell !!? again referencing back to the Gold Box, the super advanced nanotech / VR / AI hologram Tech, carried by a Hologram AI Bernard ??!
No John was not the only real human. The simulation was about Indra F-ing up the society, not John being the only real human.
What the Geek season 2 will tell :) ... was a battle of 2 AI’s !? World mom and her “offspring” new AI Program Indra ‘daughter’?, even dialog between them, “ Do you even know if it’s a simulation or real? How can you tell the difference ?! “ world mom. ep7?!
Nice review. I've just watched it on netflix and got to know that season 2 was cancelled.
🤬 Hope there's another season of Amazon's "Tales from the Loop".
Maybe it's because it's on Peacock but I'm surprised this show didn't get more hype. BNW was one of my favorite books growing up and I'm always curious when someone makes an adaption to the screen. I was looking forward to this when I saw the trailer but completely forgot about it until I found out recently that Comcast includes Peacock.
I thought the cast did an outstanding job, the writing was terrific, and, while it might not follow the book beat for beat (though it has been a long time since I read it), I think the characters and theme stayed mostly true. I had my doubts but I really enjoyed season 1.
And... apparently it's cancelled. Can't say I'm surprised with NBC and Fox always cancelling good Sci-Fi before their time. Oh well. Season 1 still makes for a decent standalone mini-series. Originally thought "how can they make this into a TV show?" prior to watching it. After finishing the season though, I was looking forward to where they might go in the future. Too bad we'll never know, just like the book I guess. Time to reread the book...
I still don't understand the ending, where is John and why does he have the optic or whatever and what is lenina smiling about ..what is her role now?
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I like this adaptation more than the book. John was more realistic and Lenina was given more autonomy. I liked the framing that Indra gave. The actors did fantastic. I felt like too much time was spent in the savage lands, but I guess it was necessary so we could see it mirrored later. I hope there is a season 2.
Actually I believe each served a purpose, the novel had one message that the writer set to deliver, the series had more than one purpose, the one from the book wasn't really the most important if a purpose at all.
What do you mean it kept the theme of the book? The optimistic ending contradicts the whole theme.
I get some characters had diff accents , but I absolutely HATED how some people called him “BERNAD” almost with a silent R , and some called him “BER-NARD” 😂
This show is totally different from the book then?
I loved it
Loved it completely ❤️
It was pretty good.
Lynina played in black mirror as well.
62 the Epsolons name was Elliott
And?
Also it was actually the guy he was modeled after that had the name.
Im usually super forgiving of the tv adaptations. Not for this one though. They completely changed all the main characters in this and i dont really think the changes made sense in the end lol. The show forced me to go back and re read the book because it made me think all the details went over my head but I was right, they changed sooooo much of the plot lol
I didn't like the way they changed the end. Other than that I loved this adaptation. When i look at an adaptation I don't mind changes IF the changes show that the writers still understand the themes of the original. My managed to maintain the farcical soap opera aspect of the novel, while at the same time showing that the situation here is 100% serious and that the farcicality comes from the programmed shallowness of their own society which is designed to keep their lives trivial and simple.
I knew they would change the ending by the way, I mean Peacock, new streaming service, if this is a winner then they make a new season, kind of expected it more than new it, but high expectation there.
I disagree that they understood and expressed the central theme of the original novel. Huxley may have later come to regret the pessimistic ending, but it perfectly illustrates the level of control that the central government has over everyone's lives, including the "savages" and John. Having one man come in and radically change the system effectively negates the entire body of work of the world order, as their work to genetically and psychologically engineer a utopia would fail because...reasons. In the original work the lower castes would never have rebelled because they simply would have been mentally and psychologically unable to understand the concept. They wouldn't have been so zealous to "reclaim" their rights because they had never had them in the first place. In fact, John tries to do precisely that after Linda dies, throwing massive quantities of soma out a window (IIRC), and everyone Helmholtz panics and desperately tries to stop him. Even at the end, Helmholtz is put on an island of other "free" citizens, rather than cheaply disposed of as he would have been in a work like 1984. Simply put, the most frightening aspect of the novel is that the rebellion presented in the show would be genuinely impossible, as the state has truly conquered freedom and dissent.
@@wyssmaster YES! I agree with your assesment of the novel 100% I still liked the show, but hey that's the whole point of thought provoking work!
The message I took away was that a system that doesn't enforce its own rules will crumble (pretty sure that wasn't the point of the story)
The message of the novel was, capitalism will keep growing until supply and demand will be the only thing that matters, people won't.
@@WhattheGeek you have got it completely wrong. this is about the freak convergence of capitalism AND communism. the pursuit of consumption and production coupled with mass conformity. The use of vast un-thinking, un-feeling communes that are only units of labour.
I've never heard this show is it like the 100 and is it worth watching
Well it is based on the novel with the same name, it just released its entire first season on Peacock in one go and it is pretty good, not perfect but pretty good.
It is not, in any way, similar to The 100. They're two very different shows. But this show is good and worth watching even though I'm a little disappointed that it wasn't a faithful adaptation of the book.
Really, the changes to the story make it better. John's mother being a grossly overweight and disgusting as she died is not conducive to a good video. Other than that change, the story seems to be mostly faithful to the book.
Not mostly, but well I didn't have a problem with most of the changes.
There's a point to her being obese and relapsing into soma, though. She contrasts with the people who stayed in New London, as they effectively look young and healthy until their execution at 60, as well as illustrates that someone who is indoctrinated from birth to behave hedonistically would likely not be able to control herself and end up severely obese. Giving her a noble death, sacrificing herself for her son, also completely removes her act of distancing herself from John up to the point of her death, choosing instead to full all her time with empty pleasures rather than with the son she raised
I do love the serie
I like the review but the background music is to loud
Oh my apologies, probably messed up something while editing, usually it is calm in the background.
I'm in the first episode in it
It is pretty decent, hope you like it.
I played a side character in the last episode however its not available in the UK 😭😭😭
@@MarcineKKK... a while but it is now in SKY ONE
You know, it's amazing how the writers of this show STILL don't truly understand Huxley's vision........
I really liked the show
It was decent.
As a huge fan of the book, I honestly thought they brought it into the modern perspective. The book is really dated and when you are adapting something so dated you need to change some parts of it. I feel like the drifts from the book are rather justified and they did them really well in my opinion. Overall I'd give it an 8 or 9 out of 10
It was pretty solid, only a few annoying detours but most of the other detours were spot on in my opinion too.
@@WhattheGeek it definitely was a modern adaptation of the book. I don't see why the reviews on rotten tomato gave it such a low score. It doesn't deserve anything below a 7 at least
Too bad that they canned the show.
That book became my bible many moons ago. For years I've wanted a screen adaption of it, but this looks like cheap crap.
Hmm kinda reminds me of something i heard on "the news" Your gonna have to prove your were vaccinated to go to the store and go to work
I really wish TV series wouldn't be so complicated that it needs a youtube video to explain it. I think this is a case of needing to read the book first to understand the TV series.
Lol. Lots of mispronounced words in this.
Its Honorable plot
Honorable how?