The 100 Season 7 Series Finale Q&A, Unanswered Questions & Reasons They Weren’t Answered!!!
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Episode 16, The Last War, Episode 16, Clarke Griffin, Octavia Blake, Dioza, Hope, Bellamy Blake, Gabriel, Russel Prime, The Disciples, Eligius III, Becca, Season 7
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0:42 I Think A Better Ending Was…!!!
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8:02 What About The Dead?!!!
9:24 The 7 Silent Symbols!!!
10:45 All In Clarke’s Imagination?!!!
11:45 An All Mankind Test!!!
13:37 Were The Primes Right? Was ALIE Right?!!!
15:04 How To View This Story (IMO)!!!
15:57 No Offspring!!!
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Hello Everyone, a lot of questions were posed, some with answers, some without. On this video I try to explain why the right questions are not one that relate to plot devices, because whenever we go into one, like deeper into it we are going to end up having fillers and also we are going to end up complaining about how some detail of the detail was not explained.
I also discuss why there was no better ending, yes you might be right, another ending might have been appealing for fans of one character or another, or appealing from your own perspective, in terms of your personal beliefs, but this is not your story, you are not writing it, there are multiple messages, more than the ones I mention on this video and they are what the writers aim at delivering.
Just trying to bring some realism to the table here.
Thanks to *Lisha KJ* for her comment, it was the most consolidated comment with the most consolidated questions, mostly thought provoking, even though I kind of asked the same as I watched. Apologize for mispronouncing your name early on, put it down in my notes with a double “e” that is why and then realized half way through remembering it being with an “i”.
Finally, there are the answers to all the questions many have asked in the comments, and I am going to add one piece here that I seem to have forgotten to mention, being right about something does not mean you are good in general, the End should never justify the Shitty Means.
I know we got off on the wrong foot in a previous video, but I have to say, awesome job on this video and wrapping things up so nicely. That being said, I think Clarkes punishment will go further than just not being able to transcend, I see Jordan and Hope together, Octavia and Levitt, etc, but it looks like she wont have the chance to feel in love again thus she will always have that emptiness & probably regret for the rest of her days and for those of us with ptsd and anxiety which I imagine she will be left with, that is going to probably be her own personal hell. Also, I think about Madi and as you said, not being able to see her again, watch her grow, will be a long term sorrow of Clarkes even if she does understand that Madi's reasoning for not returning was correct. All in all, I think it was a bittersweet ending to it all. Thanks for all your videos and sorry again for getting off on the wrong foot before. 💯🖤✌
Will you be making videos on the prequel, of it happens?
@I am death it's not rumors, it's just not a confirmed show, like a channel hasn't picked it up yet
i dont agree. but hey its al over thanks
I don't think anyone has claimed this as "their own story". I for one accept this as someone else's story but all I am saying is that it ended poorly for someone who has been a fan from the beginning. Period.
Finished the series yesterday and my only concern is that mankind willingly chose to leave their bodies and send their minds to a place created by a species where there would be no pain and no death, and everyone was fine with that. Rewind a couple seasons and you get exactly the same arguments for entering the city of light, and it was seen as a totally unnaceptable thing.
In the city of light you are controled and lost your memories. It’s completely different because you get a chance to choose.
@@attilanagy1017That still doesn’t make the ending any less shit tbh 😂
Your point is still valid in the end there really wasn’t a choice I was transcend or die alone. I mean think about it the entire last season they’re going against the last War and transcendence they even kill Bellamy over it. And then, in the very last episode everybody seems to want to and chooses to transcend. It’s just wrong in the entire transcendence and then was a mistake for the message they wanted to provide. It’s just a shitty way of doing it.. my true ending that I wish to believe which is also true is that the entire series is the human race going extinct. :0
@@bunnypr7135 it’s counterintuitive lol. They all go to extremes trying to survive post apocalypse and all of a sudden end up getting judged by beings not even human.
Raven seeing Abby at the test I think it brought back full-circle what Abby said in the first season when she was talking to Kane. Kane said “ I want the human race to survive “ Abby replied “ I want to make sure the human race deserves to survive “
Becca probably saw Alie in that test room and freaked out
Oh her greatest failure.
This actually makes sense 😳
She decided not to do the test because she knew she would have to face her creation of Allie, so yeah you are probably right.
Given how similar the idea's are, its suprising that transcendance wasn't the iwhat inspired her to create Alie.
I think becca saw the judge and asked not to be tested yet because she knew the human race wasn’t ready yet that’s why she was scared when she came back through the bridge saying we are not ready
So they killed Bellamy for nothing and ended the series with a beach party where no one would worry about getting pregnant.
Ayo this got me weak lmaooo
Shitty ending to a once good show
No he was killed for traitor
I didn’t understand.
@@DaddyJoe_ agreed.
The most beautiful thing was Murphy's story arc in season 7. He went from rebellious survivor to a responsible imposter who was willing to save the faithful Sanctum folks who were never part of his tribe to begin with. Being an imposter and talking his way out was his special talent after all. Showing care towards people beyond your inner circle was moral of the story, a contrast to Clarke.
Thank You!!! You see it!!!
For most seasons, if there was an option to save everyone Clark would try for it, like mount whether before Lexa’s betrayal (season 2), or the night blood solution, before the Azgadian king and Abbie’s betrayal (season 4). Of course motherhood narrowed Clark’s priority’s later. Even than she saved as many people in Sanctum (season 6) as she could.
Murphy and Octavia imo are the only characters with a coherent and cohesive evolution throughout all 7 seasons and are two of the only chararcters who actually had a good story and ending in season 7.
@@4Tom4lepus4 dude i just realized that none of the original 100 made it to transcendence. Really a bummer ending
One of the things that truly killed me about this season finale is that they imply there’s no afterlife. We have spent a lot of time hearing “may we meet again”, but the truth is our characters won’t ever get that. I especially get sad when I think about Lincoln’s death scene, him kneeling in the mud and wishing in Trig that “may [he and octavia] meet again”. That will never happen now, and it makes me sad. Clarke will never see her mom and dad, and Wells, and Finn, and of course Lexa. It’s ultimately life without hope.
Just a bunch of LDS, transcendental, new age, eastern philosophy mixed Bologni.
Yeah I agree all that built up to may we meet again then not too? Makes you question it. I did not mind the ending but it should have and could have been better
Good video btw.
Well Clark wouldn’t meet them anyway
The big misconception amongst the fandom is that transcendence is like death or the afterlife. Nope. Basically the humans transformed into aliens that are immortal. Afterlife is still a possibility for humans which is probably why the dead cannot transcend because their souls are already in the afterlife. The transcended aliens do not need afterlife because they live forever.
Still haven't recovered. Can't wait to eventually do a rewatch one day.
YOU CAN DO THAT ON NETFLIX.
@@michaelrockwell7129 Yeah, but I think they're saying that they want to wait to cope/reflect some first (Ik I am)
Already ahead of you.
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I’m already on season 6 of my rewatch lmao
I'm so conflicted, I enjoyed watching the finale, but I really don't like the transcending & basically ending of human life, I thought it would have been perfect for a restart on earth, where everyone works together and is powered by love for everyone & not just the people you class as friends/family
Same here..
It is not the end of the human race, rather it is the next step in human evolution. The term « transcendence » may be misleading, it has no religious meaning: it is not heaven or hell. It refers to another state of being, a passage in evolution. I like the theory of the « Great filter » as an hypothesis to the Fermi paradox that some members of this community mentioned. The Fermi paradox is the question « how come we haven’t met other extraterrestrial intelligent life forms yet? », since statiscally the universe has had high probability of generating other civilizations before our own.
A restart would have been the worst thing. I mean it means all of this was for nothing and even if you restarted people would still find reasons to fight and kill one another.
@@WhattheGeek by restart I meant they could decide if they wanted to go back to earth to live and rebuild civilisation
@usernameisunecessarily longyouprobablyreadallofthis they are back on earth not fighting. Remember they all transcended then they had a choice to go back to earth. So they would all realise there more going on. My biggest issue is the ending of humanity & not being able to have children
Murphy and Octavia definitely had the best development, I use to loathe their characters in the early seasons.
I loved Octavia since the start, and Murphy not too long after.
I'm actually pretty annoyed that Clarke really never changed throughout everything. It seemed like she went from one bad decision to the next with little bursts of doing something good.
Bellamy dying was still one of the stupidest things ive seen since GOT s8, didnt accomplish anything and was completely unnecessary and he wasnt even wrong.
I know right! It didn't even save Madi! If he hadn't died everything would have played out exactly the same and if he had to die then they should have made it more meaningful! I didn't even believe he really died at first so I didn't cry and I barely felt sad but when the last episode ended it really hit me. When I look back at the series I feel sad and like it was all for nothing when before the seventh season I looked back and saw my favorite show that I loved.
Most killing is senseless. Clarke killed Bellamy because of her fear and his belief. The show stopped romanticizing killing and started telling viewers that there is no grand death scene when the killing is senseless. Even though he was one of the most beloved characters, his senseless, non-climactic death shows us that murder isn’t grand. It isn’t romantic. And it absolutely paved the way for end storyline to come to fruition.
That moment was among the top3 for me in the series. Bellamy had it coming ever since the massacre of grounders that were sent to protect skykru. He should've died with Pike.
I liked the series overall, great story, great ideas, but the sheer stupidity of characters made me question a couple times, why am I still watching. Then I realized that those utterly blatant actions are used to move the plot forward, and made my peace with it, kinda. But still, probably Murphy was the most reasonable and likeable from the group that got to see the end, which tells a lot about the rest, lol. I get why ladies love Bellamy, but other than that, he was a piece of crap half the time.
Clarke when she shot him she didn't even grab the book all she did is run into the warm hole I was like wtf 😆
They should've had the actor do a scene for the finale during his final episode. Maybe just a scene that showed him in a coma then his body transcends. Bellamy and his fans deserved better!
I wish Monty could have taken the test. He would pass for sure, he killed his mom. Twice. For the good of all people.
Autum Who what do you mean twice
NiightDJ Monty killed his mother in real life (when she was controlled by the Alie chip) and in the City of Light, when he helped Raven kill the program.
Yokati he didn’t directly kill her the second time
But killing AT ALL is what makes you fail the test. The human race only transcended when every last human alive had stopped fighting. (This never happened before due to the different groups of humans previously being on different parts of the galaxy)
MAZIXJADE no that’s not why
I can see the religious allegory in Clarke being a Moses type figure whose imperfections as a leader ultimately denied her entrance into the promised land. As for Bellamy, I believe he would have been written differently and ended up on that beach had the actor Bob Morley not requested time away from the show. His character could have fought for humanity’s transcendence & be satisfied we made it as a species. The writers did the best they could with his time.
Yes, you’re right. JRoth actually said that Bellamy was supposed to be in the finale...not sure if he would have been on the beach....but here’s the link to that interview:
screenrant.com/100-show-series-finale-bellamy-blake-cut-explained/
I am not seeing it to be honest.
But I agree with the Bob Morley part.
Not sure I see the Moses connection but I do see a connection to Buddhism as far as transcendence goes and the connection to the Tibetan Book of the dead (Bardo Thodol).
I think when Lexa said "you are a curious race" she meant that they were strange and unlike any other creature she's created, not that they were literally curious creatures.
Yeah, i don't know why he didn't get that.
I know this 2 years old but that being didn't create humans or any other species
im a little miffed cause the reclaiming of earth means they just had to wait in cryo 100 years longer and none of this would have happened.... they only went to sanctum cause they thought the earth would never recover.
yea, somehow Earth was all full of Trees and stuff even though Monty kept track of the progress and said it was not habitable anymore.
this part. I was so confused.
My best part is that Indra killed Shedheda
And Emori and Murphy are still alive and together
My favorite character is Murphy ❤❤😅😅😂
I am glad it was Indra who took his life actually.
Where did Indra get that weapon from? I keep trying to figure that out
@@bcalirae She took it from one of the Prisoners of Eligius III
Emori wasn't in the final scene, was she? That bothered me.
@@michaelgurnick8422 she is, its just difficult to make her out, seh's wearing white/grey trousers
It feels weird how the ending pivots away from the show's overall theme which has been doing whatever is necessary to protect the ones you love and the hope of a better future. While I do feel that yes Clarke can be punished for what she has done it just feels bitter to know that mankind will be gone and that eventually Clarke or one of her friends might die alone.
I used to be very sad and feel sorry for Clarke because she was judged guilty and sentenced to live alone. But now I see it differently. Apparently the transcendent race also has its own rules. If when transcending human consciousness is enhanced and there is no more war and evil, then I think there is no need for laws. Laws appear only when there is disagreement between individuals and a tool is needed to regulate behavior according to the will of the ruling class as well as to enforce its implementation. If Clarke transcends, I guess there will be another battle of hers to save humanity 🤣. I think transcendental people are afraid of that too. My conspiracy theory is that being superior is not necessarily easy to exterminate a species. Otherwise they would have exterminated humanity as soon as Clarke failed. They did not want to be the enemy of mankind and entered a war that was not certain to win, so they accepted to accept humans into assimilation of humans. They have the technology to make all humans become like them but they can't let the humans come back, if they go back, humans won't be able to reproduce because they're afraid of losing their technology or being retaliated against.
@@Nguoidung199yes I think the higher beings were afraid of Clarke because they were the only ones with the wisdom for not underestimate Clarke cos is a bad idea mess with the powerful Oneheda
I really feel like I’m missing the last piece of the story. I NEEDED to see ‘the other side’ ! how can Madi find love as a beam of light... with other beams of light? The fact we didn’t even get a peak pisses me off. All the other plot holes I can forgive but that ending only showing the living upset me.
Well honestly that is left for your imagination.
The concept of heaven or transcendence is a very personal one, and has always been tailored to ones own culture/time period/beliefs. I think by leaving it ambiguous it allows us to interpret this “heaven” of sorts. And just because they beings essence are made of light doesn’t mean they don’t have body projections (think Lexa) to interact/etc. it’s like life without pain or any needs, like a perfect video game almost. That’s my take at least, I’ve studied Buddhism pretty in depth and I see a lot of cool references.
Why should Madi find love? She is still a child. The reason she did not come back was that Clarke wouldn't like her to grow up without anyone her age around.
@@WhattheGeek You make me feel like you're working for the writers. You defend every single choice of the writers and criticise nothing.
I'm 50/50 with that notion. The Alexa avatar said she's part of their consciousness which made me thing of The City of Light. Theoretically in a set up like that Madi to fall in love and all that. However, if there's never any pain then does that mean she can't experience heartache either? Like the first person she falls in love with is it? They'll never break up or anything? Forever is a long time. Can they have children in this other place? If so, does that mean that childbirth doesn't hut because of the no pain thing?
At the same time, it's nice for it to be left open to interpretation. I think that allows all peoples regardless of religion or creed to imagine the best scenario.
Russel / Shadeheda was really good this season. I thought his character as russel prime was quite weak and boring, and didnt think much of the actor because of this, but that all changed when I saw what a great job he did playing shadeheda
If you grew to like the actor, I recommend Teen Wolf! ;)
I think he was good in both roles, as a matter of fact starting as one and ending as another and delivering to completely different performances in quite the strong fashion was quite epic.
@@WhattheGeek I agree he did great, which I expect from him. I didn't like Russell's writing all that much, though, and felt like Sheidheda could have used a bit more fleshing out.
@@WhattheGeek This is exactly it. The actor was given particular roles to play; I wonder if he knew ahead of time that he'd be put in the role of Sheidheda and molded Russell specifically to be so much different. Either way, I think the reactions to each character was quite significant because of how masterfully he embodied each character.
I was going to recommend Teen Wolf but someone beat me to it so instead ill just second their recommendation.
After all the madness of the last 7 seasons, the finale boils down to the trials and tribulations of the human race as a whole. It's ironic because if we as a human race were to stand up and take the test of transcendence right now, we would probably fail.
Depends who though
We would fail because we are all separated by nations and race i stead of looking at the fact that we are all actually one species and should work together instead of separately with no ruler. Rulers cause separations.
Dr Dre I agree 100%. Modern humans are too engrossed in war, ethnic, cultural & country affiliations to see ourselves primarily as one human race. The test is for the whole species & we’d probably fail.
Assuming our world leaders get to take the test, 100%.
We would fail because the majority of us hate more than they love, and yes world leaders would probably try to make a deal to be the only one to transcend without their people, LOL.
This show could've used one extra season.. Too many story lines to be rushed like that.
They knew that 7 was the last going into 5, I don't think it was too rushed, I think it was supposed to feel a little rushed, like in a "our life could end at any moment" kind of way
Avery Schlicher if agree except for the sheidheda stuff. Don’t know what that was about really
I don't think it was rushed, the final episode actually and I found that surprising felt like it was 90 minutes, even though it was 45, packed, but packed smart.
I disagree it was not at all rushed
@@WhattheGeek They spent more than half a season on a boring and irrelevant side story we, barely saw the main cast. Considering they had 16 episodes to work with this season was far from great. The ending was decent, it left me satisfied but also left me with much left to desire.
Lol so Emori did return healthy and Raven still has the leg brace? Pothole!
Well Emori needed fixing to be brought back, Raven did not.
Carlos Randulfe I did not notice that! Good observation 😄
Where was Emori? She wasnt in the final scene, I couldn't see her anywhere
@@feliciapayattentionnoworg she was there. Pink/light top tan pants. She pets the dog. If you Google there are some still images that show her.
But emori did still have her mutated hand. They only fixed her wounds.
The most upsetting thing to me was that the story line of the show was the survival of the human race and in the end they told us that the human race on earth would no longer exist after these characters died. A bit hypocritical to me
That's what I've been saying from the beginning that's just why I didn't look at season 6 or 7 I barely looked at season 5
First 5 seasons were the best, then all of the sudden it started bringing in alien artifacts. The last episode of the being on earth doing a rebuild timelapse of 100 years would have been good.
They left it open. Transcendence is a choice. Could be after the credits rolled the whole human race comes back.. and in gratitude for them learning so much from humans their ability to reproduce is restored. Just saying. It was an open ending.
THIS IS LONG BUT HEAR ME OUT!!
Everything went wrong when they decided to to destroy the FLAME. Bill have to find another way to open the portal. Clarke didn't have to kill Bellamy, Gabriel didn't have to protect Madi, Madi didn't have to sacrifice herself.
I really think that by destroying the flame they destroyed the illusion for the prequel. All commanders were destroyed, when they should have transcended. The eternal flame was what united the stories and kept us tied to the plot.
The FLAME is supposedly ETERNAL. The FLAME was what united the stories and kept us tied to the plot. I really think that by destroying the flame they destroyed the illusion for the prequel.
All commanders were destroyed, when they should have transcended just like Emori/Murphy. The body may die but as long as the conciousness/mind is alive they could transcend right? The fact that the FLAME is the last tech Becca had invented, it is more advance than Primes' Mind Drives because it could hold and save multiple conciousness without killing the host.
LEXA, the REAL LEXA would have transcended and choose to return for Clarke. Alycia already agreed to return, they should use that opportunity to give the fans what they want, after four years of mourning because of Lexa's tragic death.
Having Lexa, Bellamy, Madi alive is enough to give everyone a happy ending.
PS I don't know if I am still interested for the Prequel now that I know the previous commanders will just die in the end.
The prequel is what happened before, not what happens after, so the flame will exist there. Not sure if the end of a civilization IRL would make me not care about the history of said civilization for example. Get my point?
@@WhattheGeek For you maybe, but for us yes. What happened in the end still matters, the FLAME IS supposedly ETERNAL. They should have stick to that ideal until the end but they didn't. They decided to blow it up. The one thing that tied everything in the past seasons.
Madi even mention that the commanders are real not just ghost or memory. They are LIVING MINDS inside the FLAME. Becca, Lexa, and the other commanders ALIVE.
Becca even mentioned in the Prequel that THE FLAME WITH THE RIGHT MIND will SAVE THE WORLD. Another mistake in the end.
Now Callie's MISSION to find the right will be in vain because the one who saved the world isn't a nightblood nor a commander.
Now the two siblings will fight each other for THE FLAME, only to find out that Bill will use and *almost* kill a child in order to get the code.
Get my point, Geek?
THE FLAME IS ETERNAL is the belief system that the grounders had created around it. Doesn't mean it was so. It could be destroyed after all and it was manmade.
2. Yes Becca and the other mind drives creators had wanted to live forever and that was why they created the drives in the first place but we don't always get what we want. Besides their methods were wrong. They had wanted to do this to the exclusion and at the expense of others, ordinary human beings, only to end up not transcending. But guess who did?
3. The flame did play its role in preserving the information that was needed to bring about the transcendence of ALL so in a way it was eternal.
4. Sorry it wasn't a happy ending for our main characters, debatable, but it was kind of so for all mankind seeing as that was the main reason for them being on the Arc in the first place, to preserve the human race.
5. I am personally looking forward to the prequel as it would explain how Becca and Cardogan got their motivation. No doubt from those superior beings in the way that they motivated Bellamy. Can't wait.
@@stellaiyimoga2878 FLAME IS ETERNAL is not only grounders belief. It's the tagline of the SHOW itself, Jason and the cast. The symbol of infinity doesn't make sense. The flame tied us from the early episode until now. Thus, the commanders(conciousness) inside the flame are ALIVE. BECCA, LEXA and other commanders. It's jot just "belief."
There should not be any portal stories at all, the series was based on the afterlife of war on earth which at the end after 97 years is habitial again. When the bomb wiped out the small land they think 10 years and back again but ended up woke up after 125 years they should have went back to earth as its more habital apprently.
this video gave me closure, thank you so much for this ❤️
Glad it helped
Dude i cried like a baby this episode with murphy and the rest dam man
Haha, sorry man.
Thanks for the good 100 videos throughout the years man.
Thanks for the great comments Jack.
Thank you for making the journey better for us all my man. Big respect to you.
Thanks the HadG
Yes, thank you, Geek! Always entertaining hearing your perspectives & predictions 👍🏽👍🏽
I want to thank you for weekly work with this tv series that i have been watching and rewatching for 6 years, this jurney wouldn't have been so fun without your videos. Its really been a pleasure to have spent the waiting weeks just guessing what came next. Hope still catch other series that we can relate. Keep the good work! 👍🏼
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Glad you enjoy it! Gonna be doing more series as they come, ones that interest me. Also doing a rewatch of the 100 so will post videos regularly with my newly found perspective.
I know it’s been a long time…but it’s quite funny and sad that the first person Clark blurred out in the finally was Murphy. Like I just started crying cause from season one No body needed Murphy. They treated him wrong, they never needed his help until the last min for him to do something dangerous and etc. but the min Clark had done the deed. The first name she called out was Murphy. The person she hugged in the final season was Murphy. This makes me consider that all along Murphy was an important character from the very beginning 🧡
I just realized when Bellamy was on Etherea (sp?) planet, that planet is set in the future. Everyone had already transcended and that is why he saw the golden silhouettes and an image of Bill and his mother as the judge.
I've realized the last 7 years with this show people that watch it don't actually pay attention and will ask questions that were answered in the very scene they are questioning
Haha, yeah in a lot of cases people will miss some simple details, it is easy in the middle of all of it to miss one detail here or there though.
For me it's just 7 weeks. haha.
A lot of great points👍love the vids keep it up!!!
Thanks buddy.
i wouldve loved if they just sent clarke back to the beginning and said "okay no killing this time"
Haha, that would have been a bad ending though, I mean a reset is never a great ending to be honest.
@@WhattheGeek I suppose that's a matter of opinion. When the show travelers did it, I loved it.
love all ur vids btw man. and its cool how interactive u are wt ur community
I was a little irked about her having to be alone. Sure she killed Gadagan, but she had killed lots of people before. She killed him to stop him from talking the test and dooming everyone. She had no way of knowing that the test can't be stopped once it was started. Even still, that being didn't like someone murdering someone right in front of their face (understandable), but they could have just punished Clarke for a period of time and then let her transcend. Like she said, she not the only sinner among them. Then no one would've had to choose Clarke over eternal life.
I wonder if that would extend to not killing the other species on earth, the animals kill each other and thus will never transcend but nearly the whole of humanity has transcended
An amazing really thought out analysis and defense of season 7, damn.
My unanswered questions;
1) How did the Anomaly Stone/Portal make Octavia’s hand so old, and why didn’t that happen again?
2) What is Earth’s time dilation?
3) What happened to Elegies 3? As in, the ship and their crew mates?
4) Will we learn what happened to the Bardoans and the Eretheans? And what their race is actually called? (Unless Humans are Earthlings to them)
5) If Russel killed most of his group, how did Sanctums Population grow exponentially to what it was in Season 6?
For Q5 Gabriel said Elligus 3 had nightblood embryos which he was trying to destroy so they don’t continue having primes
1. Actually she got cured, probably a cure caused somehow by the move from one place to another and the time dilation, that was never clearly explained.
2. Earth = Sanctum Time.
3. The ship itself was never an important piece of the story beyond delivering people to Sanctum, again one of those things that is a plot device that I ignore and don't try to ask questions that would lead to more questions.
4. We know what happened to the Bardoans, not sure there were Ethereans to start with.
5. Answered by Ikran.
What the Geek the ethereans were able to transcend
@@adamlindo8570 guess that's why we say Ethereal beings. lol
1. Because only her hand went to the other planet and when her hand went back to sanctum it had been many years past. Now it doesn’t make sense for like 50+ years to past in only a few seconds on sanctum but whatever.
This was easily one of my favorite netflix series and I'm sad it's the last season. I wanna watch it over, but I have re watching shows i already watched. Clarke was easily my favorite character and she'll never be forgotten. I felt the tears coming out after finishing the show. " may we see you again ". I BEG they add one more season 🙏🏽🙏🏽
It is a CW series, Netflix just had international distribution. But definitely a solid one, I agree.
"Transcendence" should've just been humans being returned to Earth, except there is no violence, only love. And maybe just revive everyone who had died up until that point or something like that
Thank you for making this. I did go back and watch the last 2 episodes and noticed that Emori & Niylah were on the beach at the end. I missed it the first time.
Glad it helped
Echoing Abby, "Maybe there are no good guys."
But there are guys that admit they did wrong and guys that have too much ego to admit it and then there are flat out bad guys.
Lol when Clarke was shooting Cadogan in the back, I keep thinking back to when Clarke was admonishing Charlotte for killing Wells in season 1, "YOU CANT KILL SOMEBODY JUST TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER!" lol
@@jackyha9445 that is a different thing. Clarke killed Cadogan because of what he did to Madi. Charlotte killed Wells despite the fact that he hadn't done anything to her. It had been his father.
Murphy slowly became my favorite character. But I really would’ve liked to see Thelonias’ reaction to everything.
Haha, well that one is long gone.
in my opinion the whole season builts you a hipe for the ending and the finale let you down a bit.. they could deal with some stuff in a different way..
Agree 100%
The problem is all of you guys want the ending you want, you do not want the perspective of the storyteller, which is just a no no, because you are not the storyteller. Now go watch it again while reminding yourself, "I am not telling the story, they are, I need to see their point, not mine" :P
@@WhattheGeek I'm not against the ending in case of storytelling.. Ofc it's their storytelling not mine.😅 What I'm trying to say is that it was a bit poor compared to previous finales for example that's what I'm saying with " could deal with some stuff in a different way" the graphics of the scenes, I'm cooperating with Tv series in my country at the moment and i can see some of em 😅
lmao the placement of the "hit that bell" pop up right under a pic of Bellamy before he died I can't- lmao!!!!!
Been going on for so many weeks, almost half of this season, haha!!!
I was hoping clark was going to run into a new species and start a new journey. But it was just old gang 😂
I was not sure about them building shelter at the beach in the end, they can travel with the stones from bardo(bardo has ramen!) to sanctum and earth...so they have unlimited resources housing seems like a lot of fun at the end :)
Wish we got to see what they got up to. Would have been wavey
They probably wanted a camping scene
they dont have oxigen on bardo, and besides home is home
It was most likely for “dramatic ending” storytelling/plot purposes having them be on the beach. You know....”In peace may you leave this SHORE.......until our final journey to the GROUND....”
What we know for now is that the beings built the stones, for what we know they could have disabled the stones.
"may we meet again" is a coping mechanism for dealing with losses and not to grief and get distracted by the death of anyone. We all know that they will never meet again with the dead, but they had hope, back when life was simpler
I just finished this and need to talk about it now! 😆
Me too. 7 seasons in 7 weeks. What a ride! Couldn't go online to read about it till now :)
I'm looking forward to a Prequel of the 100 Geek, I'm excited about the next journey. Still sad that this is the end see you then.
May we meet again my friend.
Now that I’ve had time to process, I’m really satisfied with the ending :) I wonder if the people of Etherea were able to transcend! And now planets like Bardo and Alpha will have this special mystical energy to it like Etherea did with those beings that transcended that were in the cave
I think the aliens on Etherea did transcend, but that would also require there were ever aliens on Etherea to start with which we never got clear proof of.
Great Q&A about the finale, I loved it! I think the dog may have a symbolic purpose too at the end. his reaction toward Clarke where he show that he is just happy to see her symbolize the non-judgemental attitude of dogs toward humans(on the condition they treat them well of course) the dog dosen't care that she killed or commit a genocide, she never done any harm to him so he love and follow her unconditionnally :)
I thought the dog was more about Madi, you know she was taking care of him and what not.
No bad deed goes unpunished- Father Geek 2020 😀😀😀😀 1:26
Love your videos geek,keep up the good work
Haha, Vote for me.
Another epic vid
Thanks Steve.
Homie post the stillframe of Bellamy at his most hopeless and desperate, and slapped "HIT THAT BELL" underneath like a subtitle and I just now stopped rolling
really appreciate your insight, I would have liked to see more than just one higher being, it would have been cool if it was a council of judges instead of just one. Then they might have been able to show more role models to clarke like her father, or jasper.
That would have actually been a good idea, a council.
Yeah, the scene definitely would have been better with a council, especially if they didn't all agree with each other.
I think murphys vision of hell was basically plot development, you notice after that he is not just a survivor thats really the turning point in his story where he goes on to become a hero.
It was a sweet ending. They chose to give up immortality so that Clarke wouldn't be alone. It is kind of sad in a way though because one of them will be the last alive and will have to live for some period of time alone since there are no offspring. Knowing how tough Clarke is she would probably be the last one and end up alone anyways. :(
Clarke alone would probably kill herself at this point.
I'd like to think at some point when they got old, they'd all pull a Jasper, what he did before 2nd apocalypse with the Jobi nuts. No one has to be the last one. :)
I'd like to think that they would figure out a way to become more than transcending.
One of my favourite shows until the last season. I can’t wait to watch it over again sometime but at the same time I’m so conflicted about the ending and final season I don’t know if I want to again lmao
the last season went so off rails i didn’t know what was happening til like ep 8 lol
If you add up all the episodes from all the seasons there is 100 total episodes.
That is true, the finale was always meant to be the 100th episode, that is why they went back to the 16 episode model, The 100 a 100 episodes and also shows with a 100+ episodes have a greater chance at syndication so also a sound business decisions for WBTV and the CW.
I wasn’t expecting this ending, not disappointed. Just how did we get here? Wow
Life takes you weird places.
Hi, I really like your approach and I have enjoyed "The 100" videos very much. I would like you to do the first 5 seasons too. Keep up the good work. Best.
I started with the first few episodes of season 1, then I got swamped at work, gonna do more in the weeks to come though.
I think that not everyone decided not to transcend to stay with Clarke, not everyone had the same bonds with her. I think the one who decided first was Raven and Octavia, after that Echo and Emori decided to follow her, and then Murphy, Levitt and so on. Thanks for your dedications and your good content!!! I really love the final, a little bit fictional and illogical in some way but I’m really happy with the final product. Greetings from Colombia 🇨🇴!!!
Actually I think it was a group decision, the only by product here who might not have made the decision himself, I would say was Levitt.
@@WhattheGeek I think Levitt would have chosen for Octavia so he could have a life with her (connection to their short convo about extinction “I would have liked to live a little first”)
@J. S T i like your take on this. Sooo many unanswered questions like why and how did Bellamy see the shepard in a vision.... like the guy had superpowers.
I really did not like the transcendence thing , they cannot die and so won't get to meet their dead loved ones in after life.
I understand ur point but what people seem to forget is that this ending is implying that there is absolutely no afterlife at all in the way we are used to(going to heaven or hell after death or simply being reunited with dead loved ones...ect) only the living at the time of transcendence can transcend and potentially live forever after human life, that is the key difference from what almost all religions told us and it is what we have to keep in mind to fully understand this transcendence concept.
You could look at it either way actually
Same, it just seems so dry and unhappy. I don't want to live forever. One of the things everyone can count on is death, that something everyone can strive for is to die old and look back at a long happy life. It just doesn't seem right, transcendence, I wish the series lasted just a little longer so that the ones who came back could explain what it was like.
They have a choice to go back to human form and die naturally and then they might meet their deceased loved ones in the afterlife.
Thanks again for making all these great videos. Parts of the ending really made me think of the ending of the Original Dark Crystal film. Also, I was listening to The Tibetan Book of the Dead audiobook and they mention Bardo, a place you exist between lives on Earth. I found that kind of interesting. :)
Oh that is quite cool actually.
Could you do a ranking on you’re favorite to least favorite seasons? I would love to see what you thing about the other seasons since you have only done reviews on 6 and 7.
To be fully fair, I need to get done with my rewatch first.
What the Geek That makes sense. Im doing a rewatch now so I can see how well the finale does at tying up the entire series.
@Eric V Mine is 2,4,3,5,1,7,6
I think season 6 is just average and it's just not memorable to me except for 6x2. Season 7 has some high highs and some very low lows so for me it second last.
I feel like the show I loved ended in season 5. 6 and 7 just don't feel the same. For me they are an alternate reality where the sci-fi got turned to a 10.
Best serie ever. Very meaningfull. Actually don't have the words the discribe how amazing the whole journey to the ground was
*May we meer again*
Not the best IMO but quite good. May we meet again!!!
Sooo many unanswered questions like how did Bellamy see the shepard in a vision.... like the guy had superpowers.
Murphy and Emori : better story than Twilight 😂
Twilight is freaking awful, worst shit ever.
Murphy and Emori : better story than 50 Shades of Grey 😂
What about Bellamy not losing his memory when he came back from ethera? That was one of the biggest reasons people thought his trip might’ve been a fake simulation. Times slower on bardo so he should’ve lost it. Maybe just a plot hole?
Same question
Or maybe time was equal and I was wrong about thinking it was slower on Bardo.
How come Bellamy was always good?!!!! He helped to massacre 300 people sent to protect the Sky People!
He was easily manipulated and swayed. I don’t get the appeal of Bellamy
@@ktsterlin9304 He died a sheep.
Quite fitting for his character tbh
Exactly
Same, he always appears to me as a subordinate with no purpose
I am not sure if you are asking me or commenting on the people who state that. I believe I was objecting to the statement on the video rather than agreeing with it.
Just finished the finale last night and my head is a mess. I loved the series, but we spent the whole time thinking everyone would meet again but then in the last season everyone kind of went against that with the transcending thing. They wanted a second chance the make the human race right but they end it instead. I don’t know if I’ll ever understand haha 😕
I was hoping everyone went back to earth and rebuild but ending the human race come on it makes me sad that they decided to spend their life on earth that they can't have kids..I mean what happens when they get old no one be their to take care of them.. and it be end of human race
@@lofiDigitalArt2 I think they wanted us to feel as if they were going to be the last species of the human race but a lot of what they did in season 7 went against everything they did before. There was no mention of transcendence until season 7 tho to me it felt like it was rushed
If HBO picked this show up. It couldve been the next game of thrones.
❤ facts. It qas really good imo
Do you think Cadogan will be a character in the prequels? It’d be kinda cool to see more of the origin of the disciples and what they first did when they got to bardo
I think we will be seeing Second Dawn History, how they went from second dawn to disciples.
I feel like I’m left with an emptiness with the ending. Idk what it is but I feel it left me with more questions than it answered. And do any of y’all have a great show I can watch now
Plot twist: the whole Story was imagined by Clarke in her cell right before they send the 100 down to earth ......
At the last finale scene before the credits, did you guys notice Clarke drawing something???. Not everyone saw that, but It's from the pilot season ep 1. Clarke drawing a mural in her jail cell, thinking about earth go re watch it. It's kind of a full circle bittersweet.
Yeah I noticed that
I think this finale was great and fulfilling. All of Clarke's friends choosing to stay with her than transcending was so heartwarming, knowing they owe her so much. But what do you mean they can't make offsprings?
They will not have children. When those 14 people die, they will not transcend, and that is the end of the human species.
@@caborabassa696 They can always make kids like the disciples did on Bardo
@@caborabassa696 they won't transcend when they die either remember at the end lexa said there won't be ofspring and when they die they won't be joining us but none of them seemed to care so when they die that's it they just die.
@@caborabassa696 why?
@@caborabassa696 They won't transcend; they chose to come back. They'll die like anyone else. And they were seemingly sterilised on their return. Odd choice, tbh.
I appreciate the discourse on bellamys death bring objective HOWEVER the writers and more specifically the creator decision to kill Bellamy was COMPLETELY subjective towards the actor who plays Bellamy...
Actually it was based on the fact they had to work Bellamy in, force work him because he wanted a break and they had to write him out and write him in again later in the season and still give him an arc, so it was not.
He had to be in The umbrella academy season 2. Probably why they had to make him disapear and then reapear to die.
@@ACTIONSALAD just checked wikipedia- I don't think he's in umbrella. I just watched Umbrella before starting the 100. I think this could be the answer: "In early 2020, Morley and Taylor revealed that they had had a miscarriage while filming the final season of The 100."(wikipedia) - Amazing that Eliza could continue!
@@ACTIONSALAD different actors 😂
@@jay_galick yeah I said that
I have a random question concerning transcendence. “Lexa” stated that the dead do not ascend, but Emori did in the end. Since the show has established that each person has a consciousness code, I’m assuming such a code must be needed for the test givers to upload the consciousness codes of the living into their “transcended” collective mind. So if Emori’s physical body was dead, but her code was “alive” and she transcended, does that mean someone like Gabriel transcended as well? Gabriel died with a working mind drive still in his head so his consciousness code is still active inside the drive and living in his mind space. I would then ask the same of Ryker Prime (since we never saw his drive destroyed), Kane (floated but still on the mind drive), Simone Prime, Miranda Prime, Jasmine Prime, and Caleb Prime. Although they were floated and their physical bodies killed, their codes are still “alive” inside their drives. Does this mean they would transcend as well?? This has been a question of mine since they said the dead could not, but Emori did although her consciousness was still alive. I would think this same logic would apply to the other dead individuals that still have their entire consciousness codes inside intact mind drives. Otherwise, Clarke and her friends are not the last of humanity bc the ones I mentioned above would be stuck in their mind space either in the ground or floating through the cosmos forever. I would hate that to be the case, especially for Gabriel.
This was also confusing for me..But I dont think Gabriel was there at the end & he was ready to die. So I'd think if he had the opportunity he would come back with the rest.. Maybe the consciousness needs to be in a live body for someone to be able to transcend. Emoris consciousness was in Murphy at the time.
This is a good question, although I believe they went down the route of the consciousness needing to be in a body that is still alive.
She died physically so therefore she couldn’t come back in human body...
That’s true. Especially if Gabriel had transcended, he was still ready for death to liberate him, maybe even reunite him with Josephine. Even though I am sure he would be intrigued by the knowledge this universal mind had to offer, I agree that he would want it to end as “death is life” were his final words. However, if there was no transcendence for those on the mind drives, Echo and Hope need to get ahold of Gabriel’s drive and liberate him from it. Echo also needs to do the same for Ryker as she was the one who killed him, granted he deserved it at the time. Sadly, unless they fall into a planet or fly into a star, Kane and the other primes are in a way damned until the universe grants them mercy and their drives get destroyed.
@@joeydirt9746 But she did come back, because she managed to transcend.
Can u do a video on ethera
The golden statues he saw, were they transcended ppl, and did bellamy meet the higher beings in form of his mother who he loved the most
And also how did he saw cadogan;
I feel like I'm the only one who thought of that, the ones he found looked just like the ones at the end, im curious what race that was.
@@lostinspace1036 Yeah, if we are talking about evolution here, there could be a whole new species to evolve after humans on earth/ in the "stone system". Like there were intelligent species before humans, and will be after humans.
My theory is that the stones were created by the "beings" and are placed in "systems" across the universe
@@averyschlicher758 I'd say it's pretty clear that the stones have been placed in planets where life is viable specifically, perhaps across millions or billions of years, in order to test every sentient life form once they become advanced enough to translate them.
The odd thing is, though, we still have no real reason as to why they commit genocide on such a mass scale. If it's fear they'd wreak havoc within the universe, then surely it would be better to cause a mass extinction type event that moves them back eras, so that maybe next time they'd be ready.
I am pretty certain still a simulation was at play with at least the Cadogan bit, this Cadogan thing makes Cadogan seem like a God or something which I refuse to accept.
I loved the ending but I would have loved a moment in the end where we get to see them remember their journey. Especially through the loved ones they lost like Jasper, Monty, Harper, Lincoln, Abby and Kane. But the ending was still really good. I'm so sad it's over :-(
I am not sure how that would have worked, but I would have disagreed with them bringing anyone back to life if that is what you are aiming at.
@@WhattheGeek No I didn't mean they should have brought them back, I meant the ones who made it to the very end should've had a moment to remember all the people that died a long the way ( the ones that meant something, i.e the ones I mentioned in the first comment). Hope I've clarified :-)
I think it would hurt more to remember all the people that weren't able to transcend because they died. It would feel like killing them twice.
I need a prequel!!! They can even add in more about the bardoans!
I really loved the finale. There were a bunch of holes in the final season, but the final episode was epic! The Polaris thing during Ravens part of the test makes me twitchy though; and now there’s talk on Reddit that it wasn’t Polaris, just a part of the ark we never noticed before? ...After the fact, I realized Raven wasn’t shipped with anyone, and she doesn’t deserve a lifetime without that kind of love 😢 Gaia and Indra too I guess, but Raven especially. My inner 12 year old girl is very upset about Ravens relationship status 😅
Shes in a thruple with Emori & Murphy. Those 3 together have amazing chemistry
I was thinking that the area Raven was in the Arc was where Finn took her to do a spacewalk?
I noticed all the single people too. Nyla and Echo are also single. It didn't make sense for some of them to come back to Earth. Emori and John wanted to live forever together and could have if they didn't come back. And, is Nyla even friends with any of them? Why would she choose to live on Earth? Maybe she was following Octavia. Who knows?
Christina Fred Nyla and Clarke have been dating casually for years. Since Clarke was hiding from the title WanHeda w/ the red hair. Plus she was really tight with the Red Queen, octavia. Echo didn’t bother me as much as Raven for some reason.
Mari Huffman there’s a point in the finale, before you see ravens face or her talk with Aby that it looks like the ark with Polaris attached to it. But now some people on Reddit are saying it’s not Polaris, so I’m not really sure
TBH, I actually liked the ending..I was expecting timetravel or a simulation which I wasn't looking forward to. So the transcending wasn't bad. Raven, Octavia & Murphy being the heros at the end & everything not being about Clarke made the ending really enjoyable for me
I share the same sentiment.
One of the biggest questions were regarding the azgeda hand found in the bunker, how did it get there and who buried the sphere
Reese cadogen son
@@rampriyanth8660 its a possibility
If we get the prequel we will get an answer
Probably Reese, however that is a question for the prequel, I did not think anyone thought that would be answered here, those are just prequel teasers/Easter Eggs.
So Mount Weather and Ark and Grounders are cultures that is all gone now. This is BS there no way that groups of culture will disppear just like that.
Why was there an azgeda symbol on the floor?? They never answered that
More of a question for the prequel, and I did share my thoughts on another video I think, probably Reece is the one that started Azgedakru.
I think that not everyone decided not to transcend to stay with Clarke, not everyone had the same bonds with her. I think the one who decided first was Raven and Octavia, after that Echo and Emori decided to follow her, and then Murphy, Levitt and so on.
I think Levitt wanted to come back. He said he wanted to live. This way he could finally live the way he wanted.
I actually believe it was a group decision.
I don't understand how Mori died and was able to come back but Bellamy died and didn't get to come back? How does that make sense?
Mind drive maybe ?
Because she was in a mind drive and in an actually human mind so it’s different. Bellamy may and died and that was it, also the actor asked for time off so that could’ve been something to do with it.
Ly bro
LY?
We need a prequel to the series we need to know more about the arc,the grounders,mount whether,the primes,cardigan and his people we want to know more about Becca 😣
I guess we will, if it gets green lit.
One thing that got to my nerves was :"I was just trying to protect you" 😤
As if they were all a bunch of wimps unable to handle any pain.
So I just this realisation and I would like others opinion Murphy and emori where in a mind space and they still transcended so if they never destroyed the flame Lexa and all the previous commanders should have transcended too am I right or not ???
Nope that is not right because the flame was memories of the commander, kind of like having videos on your mobile, the mind drives were actual consciousness uploads
Honestly, I loved the ending. Yeah there could have been a "better ending" but it was wrapped up very well.
It was the best ending from their point of view and a good ending from mine, that makes it a perfect ending, because I want them to tell their story, not what I think the story should be, as long as it does not have me walk away irritated.
Thank you. You made it clear why it sucked so badly
Well I hope you realize that by saying this to what I just said you are proving one of a few things most prominently:
1. You watch for a character and not for a story.
2. You think the writers should send out your message not their message.
@@WhattheGeek no because it actually destroys all message for a religious message. It's about survival. Transcending is the opposite of survival. Like religion it forces the terrible idea down your throat and forces you to accept it.
Your justification all come off as excuses.
Clarke shooting Bill while he was trying to speak for the human race was one of my favorite moments in the whole series. I personally hate people with a god complex, and enjoyed how she told them(the "judge") to eat shit and die basically. It's been a couple years since I watched it, but didn't Bill basically set everything in motion so he can "save" the human race, from the mess he started in the beginning?
M-CAP is not torture unless people fight against it. This is stated by hope and Levitt. It was used to treat PTSD on disciples many times. Bellamy did not want his friends to be tortured but Clarke resisted when she was placed on it. It is also not fair to say he would have predicted Cadogan needed to go so far to extract Maddies memories since that was a especial case. Even Levitt refused to partake on it. If you make a case against extracting thoughts forcibly, ok fine that is wrong but you also gotta account it is for a greater purpose since at the end more than 90% of the people transcended and did not come back. Also I really wished Raven had seen Finn instead of Abbie.
Well yes the forcing people part is the wrong part, and a lot of crimes are done in the name of the greater good, and Bill Cadogan is no greater good person, he would have doomed everyone if he was allowed to take the test, not that Clarke did any better.
Even if it were about the greater good, doing the wrong thing for the right reasons is not right and in fact is absolutely wrong.
@@WhattheGeek I agree but nobody in the show was right
My main question is:
If Emori got a new body why didn't Raven (her leg is still in a brace)? And if Emori got a new body why does she (Indra, Octavia, etc) still have a tattoo? Did the 'higher beings' repair her body?
I'm probably just overthinking this but I wanted to know your opinion.
P.S.
Great video, as always!!
I think they probably made a mistake, only Emori did not necessarily get a new body. She just probably had the damaged bit of her body healed to allow her to live.
Levitt and Echo were shot, and they were fine. So the same probably happened to Emori. But the same would have happened to Madi, her body was fine, but part of her brain wasn’t, so I guess since I wasn’t life threatening, they leave it
I only had one issue with the whole run. Becca created the serum to counter the effects of the radiation the mind drive would emit. Elligus left Earth well before that, I have heard some say well Elligus reached Alpha within two years after they left Earth. So why did it take Month and Harper nearly 80 years to find Alpha? If Elligus went to Alpha in two years that would mean they have either FTL travel or damn near FTL. And I remember Becca perfected the night blood nearly before Allie wiped out Earth. Something to me just does not add up on how Russell and the rest have Night blood.
1.Was Jasper right or wrong?
2. For Clarke shouldn’t Bellamy, Finn ,Jasper , monty take her test because they were basically killed because of her and they were one of her closest friends and I think it would have made a lot more sense that way because all of them were with her at her weakest moments
3. Did they do better
4. Was Bellamy right to choose the shepherd over his family (even octavia)
1. Jasper was kind of right, even Clarke knows it, why do you think she mentioned the genocide and pulling the lever without being asked about it.
2. Well it is either your greatest Love, your greatest failure or your greatest teacher. It could be 2 or 3 of these if one person can represent all, like Callie mentioned she is with Cadogan. Lexa at least checked one if not two of these boxes.
3. Yes ending that battle, Octavia having changed, Murphy having changed, Indra realizing she enabled bloodreina, Raven realizing the error of some of her ways, all of this was doing better.
4. It is never right to do the wrong thing even if for the right reasons.
Thanks for replying
maybe im a little late to the party, but what i would like to know.. so basicly all friends of clarke decided to return as humans, but were they aware of each others decision, or did they all decide on their own? i mean the obvious answer would be, that they decided as a group, but it would be so much deeper, if everyone got that decission on their own, risking to be eventually only two or three people again for the rest of their lifes.
This show y’all. This show. :-)