Great review. It's about time someone did a pro review on these guitars! I own the Veil of Bees, and you're right. Pictures really don't do it any justice. I've been playing for 30 years now, and this is one of the best guitars I've ever owned. Better than many of my old Gibsons. And it's absolutely the best looking guitar I've ever owned. I bought mine to PLAY, which is just what I'm doing. I don't see the "Honeymoon Phase" wearing off anytime soon. ✌️🎸
Thanks Gary! Yeah they totally knocked it out of the park with these. Adam Jones deserves credit as well for how this turned out - Im going to go out on a limb here and speculate that Adam was approached by Gibson to do it just like Jerry Cantrell - “hey lets do a budget line, two versions, one for the “classic” player with classic looks and shape and one with a slightly different colorway and with the Prophecy body and Fishman electronics - you in???” And Adam was like - “So I should put my name on a cash grab mission to charge extra for a different color? No thanks”. Then he thought about it and came back to them saying - “can you print art work on the backs? Im only in if 1) you can pull this off and 2) if its a limited run - and sure we can charge more but we are going to offer more than just a new colorway.” Its what Im imagining how this went down 😂
@@ksmusiclounge1648 I think you're right. I know that many prototypes were run by A.J., which he rejected. I'm hoping to get my hands on the non-art version, which I believe will be the last of the series.
Hi Gary, I agree totally with you!! I own fortunately the "Veil Of Bees" too, and she is much better than my Gibson Les Paul Custom, what seems really strange ...
Im sure there are unicorn guitars among these as well where everything lines up just perfectly and you get something unrivalled. One thing I can confirm is, the neck relief is actually better on the Epis then on the CS guitars, which really makes you wonder 🧐
I just picked mine up today. The guitar is amazing. It is loud! The Seymour Duncan is really hot. I have a Seymour Duncan in my old Gibson SG and it doesn’t compare to this setup. It really packs a punch. The neck is smooth. It plays so good. It’s also the first time I’ve gotten the Adam Jones scream with flanger and delay on my amp lol. Fellow tool fans know which I’m talking about.
I got mine yesterday and was lucky enough to also get the veil of bees. I love these guitars they are truly amazing. Very impressed with the artwork. 🤘🏻🎸👍🏻
Well done, thanks for the deep dive and playing/tones which sounded great! I have the VOB and it’s an excellent guitar, it’s really flawless aside from the input jack being much too tight and a bit tough to insert the guitar cable. I have an Explorer w/ a 500T at the bridge but I think the Duncan on this guitar is even hotter! 😱
Thanks man! Much appreciated! The input jack on this one is a bit tight as well but not to the point where I would feel the need to fix it. Its an easy fix tho, I can probably make a video on this. Its just a question of unscrewing the jack socket and bending in (just a bit) the metal part that connects to the jack tip. That will give you a better fit. When you have it out of the guitar, have a jack ready to plug in to check that it smooth - not to tight and not too loose. Agree on the pup - the SD is absolute face melting brutality in this one 😂🤘
Very useful review on this one. I’ll be buying one next week. As far as all the positive Epiphone attention lately, this one really does offer something at a higher level of quality for a pretty good price even at $1299. And it doesn’t make you feel like you necessarily got the “poor” man’s version. I think all versions have what counts (a very attractive silver burst) yet are quite different from one another across each line. For me, the AJ LP Custom addresses the key barrier for me w/Epiphone Custom models and that’s the dreaded d-profile. I love the beefier profile on these and w/the case and volute/maple neck we have something quite unique. An interesting if not controversial release. Great video though IMO
Thank you for your kind words! Very much appreciated. Yes I think you nailed it - the neck profile is rounded as per Adam’s specs and I think most guitarists save for shred demons tend to go for beefier necks. Even Ibanez came out with the AZ line to cater to the non-shred crown and brought Josh Smith on board… This is imo a very unique approach to a signature repease in a budget line.
Thanx man! Well, after the years I developped techniques of sneaking new gear into the house undetected 😂 I should do a video on that 😜🤘 thanx again and dont forget to sub & like
Oh man thanks a lot! Heart warming comment. Im a micro channel compared to P&T Guitars and Trogly 😂 let me tell you - its HARD work making such a video. Waaaay harder than it looks - especially when you have no friggin idea how to shoot video 😂. So when a TH-camr now says - “I appreciate your like and please subscribe” - I fully understand. I almost shed a tear 😂
@@ksmusiclounge1648 Happy to show some support! It’s well deserved. I can absolutely relate! I’m a small guitar channel as well, and the amount of hours that goes into a 10 minute video is hard for others to comprehend…I actually think I might be doing it wrong sometimes lol. From one small channel to another you got a subscriber. Cheers! 🤘
Im gonna check out yours as well! Seriously its hours upon hours of set-up, miking, editing, framing, lighting etc. The recording is the easy and fast bit. Yeah anyway, highly appreciated!
Thank you very much, yeah, I honestly believe if it were not for Adam, the quality would have been all over the place. And in a nutshell, we’all gear heads and we love to collect stuff. The admission fee on these is much lower than on the CS stuff - and they are both pro instruments and beautiful at the same time, so… ✅
Could also have to do with licensing rights - there is more work behind this than we know or imagine. Every artwork must first be cleared/licensed by the licenseholder for the intended use - quite a legal exercise. I have some experience in this field and let me tell you - it aint easy…
@ksmusiclounge1648 you're right, it can easily turn into a legal nightmare. In sure there were many hoops jumped through to be able to access the art they have for these guitars.
I got a used sensation and its beautiful and sounds great! I will say that my fretboard is gnarly, at the 12th fret it gets very messy looking and there even appears to be some holes filled in by a couple of the frets. For me these things are inconsequential but as an expensive investment its a lil dissapointing.
You can get great nickel or gold metal tips from Philadelphia Luthier w tapered shaft that doesnt cut off abruptly on the thread side like a plastic tip.
When I got the Veil of the Bees, everything looks and feels great, but there was a weird perfectly round dent between two of the tuning pegs on the headstock. It actually looks like a misfire happened when drilling the holes and the filler either sank or it was so shallow that it was just left as is. The finish over it is completely fine, it just has a little indention that you can feel and see when the light hits right. Not a big deal, just thought it was an odd miss on the QC side. Then, with the Berserker, everything looks and feels great, except for the binding along the bottom of the front of the guitar, from the strap pin all the way to where the cutout meets the neck, is offset and you can feel a lip where the binding meets the body. Again, it's no big deal, I would still never get rid of it, but I now see a trend in some QC issues from the factory on fit and finish. In contrast, I also finally received the Jerry Cantrell "Wino" Epiphone that has been on backorder for nearly a year, and it is completely flawless. I can't find a single complaint with the fit and finish on that one. Just goes to show that machines are necessary, but ultimately, the human hand can make or break the quality of the finished product. I'm sure the vast majority of guitars shipped have no issues what-so-ever, it's just luck of the draw and it's insane to expect that in this series they will produce 5,600 mid-tier guitars with no issues. None of what I've seen so far would've discouraged me from having them, though. They're incredibly beautiful.
Interesting, havent seen that ever happen on a guitar. Most of the times there’s a bump under the finish where a piece of saw dust or something happened to get trapped under the coat of paint and that caused a little bump sitting proud of the rest of the finish. But a depression I have never seen.
Interesring. Highest grade ebony with no streaking is what should go into custom shop guitars. Im surprised. The wood has the same properties no matter the grade. Its just the consistency of color and grain that’s the difference.
I suspect the action on my VOB is a little high also. It’s fine until I get to the 12th fret. I’m definitely playing mine also. I put my Gibson studio in the closet ever since I got my epiphone.
The basic setup from the factory is something I consider a base line for a proper setup. That said, I’ve seen CS Gibsons with worse ex-factory setups than this. Btw Studios are excellent guitars!
Any way you look at it, Epiphone is Gibson, has been since 1957. Just a part of Gibson that makes guitars at different price point. Pure marketing genius from Gibson, these things will be the hottest sort after guitars in 2023.
I haven’t played the Adam Jones version, but picked up a new Epiphone LP custom in silver burst in guitar center a couple months ago. Let me tell you that I’m just not a silver burst fan really I think AJ’s original is awesome looking aged yellowed and checked, but just not a fan of new silver burst, but for some reason that Custom Silver burst in person I had to pick it up and wow man it was awesome Epiphone is really building some nice guitars these days, I tried a epiphone gold top standard a few years ago and it was amazing too but I just don’t care for the look of the rosewood substitutes used, but the customs take care of that with the Ebony board and the headstock on the customs look better. So I can attest if you want a nice LP custom for around 1000 the regular epiphone customs are very nice. I like Tool but I’m not a super fan. I think the Berzerker is the coolest art AJ and I do love a Duncan Distortion in the bridge of just about anything. I don’t know if the regular customs come with a hard case or not. When you consider what you’re getting with the Adam Jones art series the limited numbers, art, Duncan Distortion, and the neck pickup flipped, with a hard case it’s not a bad deal.
We are certainly getting a loot of guitar here. The CS feels different which I cannot quantify. Whether that difference in feel is worth 6 or 9 times the price well… And people tend to prefer nitro however there is nothing wrong with a beautiful poly finish…
@@ksmusiclounge1648 I think most of us older guys at least appreciate the way nitro ages, but it’s certainly not worth the ridiculous prices for a Gibson for me anyway. I’d love to have one but I just can’t justify the dough . I’ve always played fender style guitars and if I were to spend 5k for a guitar it’d have a better chance being a Fender Custom Shop than something by Gibson . I like the new faded Gibsons and that’s about as high as I could go on a new Gibson. I bet there’s some people who would prefer the hard poly finishes because they are more durable and won’t age like nitro. I’d like to see like a made in Japan Epiphone with the open book headstock and a nitro finish, a standard ish with a rosewood board and maybe real mop or at least very nice looking acrylic inlays and a rosewood board around the 1500 to 1600 price, but that would cut into the studios and tributes and Gibson just ain’t going to do that.
Yeah exactly. Im with Phil Mcknight on this - he loves the Studio as the best value proposition from Gibson. My favourite is the Classic - great neck, great pups, push/pull and when you feel like it you can always rewire it by hand.
Biggest canvas on a guitar - straight out of the acoustic guitar playbook. Acoustics look damn near identical from the front, the back is where its at 😜
In my opinion, the clear thick part is the top coat (aka the poly finish) and the dark thin part under the clear coat is the paper that carries the artwork. I think its a sheet of paper (could also be a thin sheet of plastic, but my money is on paper) - it has to be thin in order to contour with the shape of the back of the guitar.
The bridge on AJ’s guitar and all the reissues is Nashville style where as here its abr-style. Plus that chrome switch tip on an all-nickel hardware guitar.
Can't understand why someone would want multiple versions of the same thing unless you're gonna hang it backwards on a wall I would rather have some art and better guitars
Both measurements were taken - neck depth measurements are in the video right after the width measurements, both at the 1st and 12th. 13:13 weight. You are welcome.
You need to speak up, or put your mic closer to your mouth because the volume of your voice drastically drops and the camera focus was on your tool shirt and not the guitar
But you as the player will KNOW! And that knowledge is power and this power will make you attack the strings differently and conjure up a whole different kind of playing - and the audience will feel it, they may not know what it is but they will feel something very different. The flow of energy in the universe - matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration…
Thats one way to look at it 😂 the other would be “otherwise bland guitar real estate graced by fine artwork by one of the most influential artist of the 20th century”. Either one is legit.
Hey Dave! Nothing wrong with having that opinion. As I said in my final thoughts - its not a player’s guitar. Its a collectable item that can make music. The idea is unique, the effort to make it happen on Epiphone’s part is admirable - but its not for everybody. Thanks for the comment!
@@ksmusiclounge1648 But why the Heck has everything that comes from Gibson/Epiphone has to be a collectors piece nowadays ?What the phuk is going on with that, are rich people really that bored out of this life? Where's the 600-800$/€ model of that guitar that can actually be played without worrying about scratching up the back of the guitar. As Dave pointed out that price gouging right after this stuff leaves the factory is ridiculous, a collectors piece often gets that status later on not right out of the box (for example the zakk wylde models that you just cant get anymore). Its as if scalpers and factory XYZ collude with one another in this day and age, if youre looking at those prices that most of the limited stuff fetches right now right after it just got sold. Just my two cents. Sorry for any incoherent brabbling or any grammatical errors as english is not my first language. Greetings from germany.
But this type of guitar (I have the VOB) is better than my Gibson Les Paul Custom in all ways, and it's worth the price (I payed from a private seller 500 more the listed price). I'm a guitarlover, and I owned certainly 15 Epis and 8 Gibsons...
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Great review. It's about time someone did a pro review on these guitars! I own the Veil of Bees, and you're right. Pictures really don't do it any justice. I've been playing for 30 years now, and this is one of the best guitars I've ever owned. Better than many of my old Gibsons. And it's absolutely the best looking guitar I've ever owned. I bought mine to PLAY, which is just what I'm doing. I don't see the "Honeymoon Phase" wearing off anytime soon. ✌️🎸
Thanks Gary! Yeah they totally knocked it out of the park with these. Adam Jones deserves credit as well for how this turned out - Im going to go out on a limb here and speculate that Adam was approached by Gibson to do it just like Jerry Cantrell - “hey lets do a budget line, two versions, one for the “classic” player with classic looks and shape and one with a slightly different colorway and with the Prophecy body and Fishman electronics - you in???” And Adam was like - “So I should put my name on a cash grab mission to charge extra for a different color? No thanks”. Then he thought about it and came back to them saying - “can you print art work on the backs? Im only in if 1) you can pull this off and 2) if its a limited run - and sure we can charge more but we are going to offer more than just a new colorway.” Its what Im imagining how this went down 😂
@@ksmusiclounge1648 I think you're right. I know that many prototypes were run by A.J., which he rejected. I'm hoping to get my hands on the non-art version, which I believe will be the last of the series.
Im not sure there will be a non-artwork one.
Hi Gary, I agree totally with you!! I own fortunately the "Veil Of Bees" too, and she is much better than my Gibson Les Paul Custom, what seems really strange ...
Im sure there are unicorn guitars among these as well where everything lines up just perfectly and you get something unrivalled. One thing I can confirm is, the neck relief is actually better on the Epis then on the CS guitars, which really makes you wonder 🧐
I just picked mine up today. The guitar is amazing. It is loud! The Seymour Duncan is really hot. I have a Seymour Duncan in my old Gibson SG and it doesn’t compare to this setup. It really packs a punch. The neck is smooth. It plays so good. It’s also the first time I’ve gotten the Adam Jones scream with flanger and delay on my amp lol. Fellow tool fans know which I’m talking about.
Oh yeah!
Hell yeah! I know exactly what you're talking about.
I missed the Veil of Bees because I thought about it too long. When I saw the Berserker I was ready and it will be here tomorrow. I can’t wait.
Dude! New guitar day! Congrats! 💪👍
I got mine yesterday and was lucky enough to also get the veil of bees. I love these guitars they are truly amazing. Very impressed with the artwork. 🤘🏻🎸👍🏻
Congrats!
Congrats man, they're great guitars. Best purchase I've made in a while.
Me, too! Got 'em both. I feel an exclusive club happening.
great review but why the 360p quality
After the book in 1967, The art was then used as the artwork on the Molly Hatchet album Beaten the Odds in 1980.
awesome review, thank you! Which graphics will be released next?
I have honestly no idea
Well done, thanks for the deep dive and playing/tones which sounded great! I have the VOB and it’s an excellent guitar, it’s really flawless aside from the input jack being much too tight and a bit tough to insert the guitar cable. I have an Explorer w/ a 500T at the bridge but I think the Duncan on this guitar is even hotter! 😱
Thanks man! Much appreciated! The input jack on this one is a bit tight as well but not to the point where I would feel the need to fix it. Its an easy fix tho, I can probably make a video on this. Its just a question of unscrewing the jack socket and bending in (just a bit) the metal part that connects to the jack tip. That will give you a better fit. When you have it out of the guitar, have a jack ready to plug in to check that it smooth - not to tight and not too loose. Agree on the pup - the SD is absolute face melting brutality in this one 😂🤘
Very useful review on this one. I’ll be buying one next week. As far as all the positive Epiphone attention lately, this one really does offer something at a higher level of quality for a pretty good price even at $1299. And it doesn’t make you feel like you necessarily got the “poor” man’s version.
I think all versions have what counts (a very attractive silver burst) yet are quite different from one another across each line. For me, the AJ LP Custom addresses the key barrier for me w/Epiphone Custom models and that’s the dreaded d-profile. I love the beefier profile on these and w/the case and volute/maple neck we have something quite unique.
An interesting if not controversial release.
Great video though IMO
Thank you for your kind words! Very much appreciated. Yes I think you nailed it - the neck profile is rounded as per Adam’s specs and I think most guitarists save for shred demons tend to go for beefier necks. Even Ibanez came out with the AZ line to cater to the non-shred crown and brought Josh Smith on board… This is imo a very unique approach to a signature repease in a budget line.
Beating the Odds,again!, Great looking!
Well done . Thank you for the thorough breakdown .
Thansks so much Matthew!
Frazetta. Definitely. I’m a huge Conan fan.
I have one I feel Lucky
Congrats man!
Dude. Great job!! Really, I passed on the berserker, after the VoB's my wife woulda killed me. Will be looking out for more vids.👍
Thanx man! Well, after the years I developped techniques of sneaking new gear into the house undetected 😂 I should do a video on that 😜🤘 thanx again and dont forget to sub & like
Hoping to get mine tomorrow. Super excited! Thanks for sharing this. Not a lot of good in depth reviews of these.
Thank you so much man! Yeah two if im counting correctly - mine and one other. Thats it.
@@ksmusiclounge1648 Yup! That’s all I see as well. Your vid and Plat & Trade guitars are the best vids on this.
Oh man thanks a lot! Heart warming comment. Im a micro channel compared to P&T Guitars and Trogly 😂 let me tell you - its HARD work making such a video. Waaaay harder than it looks - especially when you have no friggin idea how to shoot video 😂. So when a TH-camr now says - “I appreciate your like and please subscribe” - I fully understand. I almost shed a tear 😂
@@ksmusiclounge1648 Happy to show some support! It’s well deserved. I can absolutely relate! I’m a small guitar channel as well, and the amount of hours that goes into a 10 minute video is hard for others to comprehend…I actually think I might be doing it wrong sometimes lol. From one small channel to another you got a subscriber. Cheers! 🤘
Im gonna check out yours as well! Seriously its hours upon hours of set-up, miking, editing, framing, lighting etc. The recording is the easy and fast bit. Yeah anyway, highly appreciated!
It was originally used on a Molly Hatchet album. I believe he did all the artwork for them as well.
You are right! Beating the Odds is the album! Well spotted!
Noooo, it was ORIGINALLY used on the cover of the novel “Conan The Destroyer”. The original painting is own by Kirk Hammett.🎉
Ooo ok! 😂😂😂👍
The novel “Conan the Conqueror” not “Destroyer” type O😱
@@pkgj1 thank you. I should’ve said Molly Hatchet used it for their album cover before this. 👍🏻
Excellent Video, really good points made in your summary.
Thank you very much, yeah, I honestly believe if it were not for Adam, the quality would have been all over the place. And in a nutshell, we’all gear heads and we love to collect stuff. The admission fee on these is much lower than on the CS stuff - and they are both pro instruments and beautiful at the same time, so… ✅
I can't believe they won't have a guitar with Alex Grey's artwork. I'm dumbfounded.
Is that confirmed?
@@ksmusiclounge1648 I've seen a list of artists somewhere online. Alex wasn't on it.
Oh well… we shall see…
Could also have to do with licensing rights - there is more work behind this than we know or imagine. Every artwork must first be cleared/licensed by the licenseholder for the intended use - quite a legal exercise. I have some experience in this field and let me tell you - it aint easy…
@ksmusiclounge1648 you're right, it can easily turn into a legal nightmare. In sure there were many hoops jumped through to be able to access the art they have for these guitars.
I got a used sensation and its beautiful and sounds great! I will say that my fretboard is gnarly, at the 12th fret it gets very messy looking and there even appears to be some holes filled in by a couple of the frets.
For me these things are inconsequential but as an expensive investment its a lil dissapointing.
I have the Vail of Bees and a I absolutely love it!
Yeah she’s a beauty, congratulations!
You can get great nickel or gold metal tips from Philadelphia Luthier w tapered shaft that doesnt cut off abruptly on the thread side like a plastic tip.
When I got the Veil of the Bees, everything looks and feels great, but there was a weird perfectly round dent between two of the tuning pegs on the headstock. It actually looks like a misfire happened when drilling the holes and the filler either sank or it was so shallow that it was just left as is. The finish over it is completely fine, it just has a little indention that you can feel and see when the light hits right. Not a big deal, just thought it was an odd miss on the QC side. Then, with the Berserker, everything looks and feels great, except for the binding along the bottom of the front of the guitar, from the strap pin all the way to where the cutout meets the neck, is offset and you can feel a lip where the binding meets the body. Again, it's no big deal, I would still never get rid of it, but I now see a trend in some QC issues from the factory on fit and finish. In contrast, I also finally received the Jerry Cantrell "Wino" Epiphone that has been on backorder for nearly a year, and it is completely flawless. I can't find a single complaint with the fit and finish on that one. Just goes to show that machines are necessary, but ultimately, the human hand can make or break the quality of the finished product. I'm sure the vast majority of guitars shipped have no issues what-so-ever, it's just luck of the draw and it's insane to expect that in this series they will produce 5,600 mid-tier guitars with no issues. None of what I've seen so far would've discouraged me from having them, though. They're incredibly beautiful.
Interesting, havent seen that ever happen on a guitar. Most of the times there’s a bump under the finish where a piece of saw dust or something happened to get trapped under the coat of paint and that caused a little bump sitting proud of the rest of the finish. But a depression I have never seen.
Instant subscribe! Great video!
Thanx man!
I like that you are doing this kind of review on not $5000 guitars
Gained a subscriber
Thanks so much!
My 2021 Silverburst Custom with ebony board as the same streaks on the fretboard.
Interesring. Highest grade ebony with no streaking is what should go into custom shop guitars. Im surprised. The wood has the same properties no matter the grade. Its just the consistency of color and grain that’s the difference.
@K’s Music Lounge A lot of the time, Ebony does have these streaks but are often dyed darker. Or so I was told by a luther.
Yeah true but custom shop stuff should have the dark unstained ones - is what I think 😃
I have the ‘Sensation’ one by Koran Faught, I think I might sell it and get the non-art one, the better specs are more important to me than the art.
I suspect the action on my VOB is a little high also. It’s fine until I get to the 12th fret. I’m definitely playing mine also. I put my Gibson studio in the closet ever since I got my epiphone.
The basic setup from the factory is something I consider a base line for a proper setup. That said, I’ve seen CS Gibsons with worse ex-factory setups than this. Btw Studios are excellent guitars!
I really love the "veil of bees"
Hi! Why do you mean “reverse mounted”??
What’s the difference???
The neck pickup pole pieces should be next to fretboard but are not, hence reverse mounted.
Any way you look at it, Epiphone is Gibson, has been since 1957. Just a part of Gibson that makes guitars at different price point. Pure marketing genius from Gibson, these things will be the hottest sort after guitars in 2023.
Absolutely. The fact that Caesar is teasing them says it all. No denying they are gorgeous and play amazing tho…
China or not, these Adam Jones guitars are AWESOME!!!
1000%! Amazing guitars with great value proposition imo
1979 era correct too, 360p video resolution.
Damn autofocus has a mind of its own.
Berserker!
All the way! 🤘
I have a 2021 epiphone custom Koa les Paul it was considered to be the the best les Paul of 2021 will never sell it..
Played it, loved it - good on ya!
Side by side with the Viel of Bee's? You make me sick!
I love it.
Great review.
😂🤘thanks bruv!
I want them all...
I haven’t played the Adam Jones version, but picked up a new Epiphone LP custom in silver burst in guitar center a couple months ago. Let me tell you that I’m just not a silver burst fan really I think AJ’s original is awesome looking aged yellowed and checked, but just not a fan of new silver burst, but for some reason that Custom Silver burst in person I had to pick it up and wow man it was awesome Epiphone is really building some nice guitars these days, I tried a epiphone gold top standard a few years ago and it was amazing too but I just don’t care for the look of the rosewood substitutes used, but the customs take care of that with the Ebony board and the headstock on the customs look better. So I can attest if you want a nice LP custom for around 1000 the regular epiphone customs are very nice. I like Tool but I’m not a super fan. I think the Berzerker is the coolest art AJ and I do love a Duncan Distortion in the bridge of just about anything. I don’t know if the regular customs come with a hard case or not. When you consider what you’re getting with the Adam Jones art series the limited numbers, art, Duncan Distortion, and the neck pickup flipped, with a hard case it’s not a bad deal.
I absolutely agree
This Epiphone Les Paul is better than my many Gibsons, I must say....
We are certainly getting a loot of guitar here. The CS feels different which I cannot quantify. Whether that difference in feel is worth 6 or 9 times the price well… And people tend to prefer nitro however there is nothing wrong with a beautiful poly finish…
@@ksmusiclounge1648 I think most of us older guys at least appreciate the way nitro ages, but it’s certainly not worth the ridiculous prices for a Gibson for me anyway. I’d love to have one but I just can’t justify the dough . I’ve always played fender style guitars and if I were to spend 5k for a guitar it’d have a better chance being a Fender Custom Shop than something by Gibson . I like the new faded Gibsons and that’s about as high as I could go on a new Gibson. I bet there’s some people who would prefer the hard poly finishes because they are more durable and won’t age like nitro. I’d like to see like a made in Japan Epiphone with the open book headstock and a nitro finish, a standard ish with a rosewood board and maybe real mop or at least very nice looking acrylic inlays and a rosewood board around the 1500 to 1600 price, but that would cut into the studios and tributes and Gibson just ain’t going to do that.
Yeah exactly. Im with Phil Mcknight on this - he loves the Studio as the best value proposition from Gibson. My favourite is the Classic - great neck, great pups, push/pull and when you feel like it you can always rewire it by hand.
Why would they not set the action and cut the nut properly?
Better a bit high than too low. Action is a matter of preference, cant fault them for that.
@@ksmusiclounge1648 yeah, I guess so.
There have been some real derogatory comments about this guitar on Reverb. IS it really that bad?
Why is the art on the back?Where no-one can see it.
Biggest canvas on a guitar - straight out of the acoustic guitar playbook. Acoustics look damn near identical from the front, the back is where its at 😜
Bees 🐝
It seems to me like the art is done by gluing a plastic plate on the back, not paper
Do we know that for a fact?
Looking at mine closely it certainly looks like a layer of plastic/acrylic to me. Its perfectly even and about 1.5mm thick
In my opinion, the clear thick part is the top coat (aka the poly finish) and the dark thin part under the clear coat is the paper that carries the artwork. I think its a sheet of paper (could also be a thin sheet of plastic, but my money is on paper) - it has to be thin in order to contour with the shape of the back of the guitar.
How did no one notice what exactly? 🙂
The bridge on AJ’s guitar and all the reissues is Nashville style where as here its abr-style. Plus that chrome switch tip on an all-nickel hardware guitar.
I just don't get collector guitars.... guitars are meant to be played just like cars are meant to be driven, but if you're thing that's cool 😎
Yeah, that’s one way to look at it - but then you watch Caesar’s guitar collection video and yeah…a whole different perspective… 🤘
these are going for 2000 on ebay now
Reverb prolly too
I'm going to be late
360p? seriously?
lol
Remember 360p
Damn autofocus, then YT compression doesnt help either, defo need to watch that for future vids
Can't understand why someone would want multiple versions of the same thing unless you're gonna hang it backwards on a wall I would rather have some art and better guitars
You should measure the neck depth not the width. Also, the weight?
Both measurements were taken - neck depth measurements are in the video right after the width measurements, both at the 1st and 12th.
13:13 weight. You are welcome.
@@ksmusiclounge1648 just goes to show, I'm getting old I guess?
Naah, honest questions! Fast times we live in 😜👍 plus every comment helps with the wild YT algorhythm - so thanks for that!
Maybe a few lessons before we buy a 5 thousand dollar diezel
1300 bucks for an Epiphone 🤔
You need to speak up, or put your mic closer to your mouth because the volume of your voice drastically drops and the camera focus was on your tool shirt and not the guitar
Yeah the Autofocus seems to have been more interested in the shirt than the guitar, need to be more careful next time.
Nobody in aurdience will see that
But you as the player will KNOW! And that knowledge is power and this power will make you attack the strings differently and conjure up a whole different kind of playing - and the audience will feel it, they may not know what it is but they will feel something very different. The flow of energy in the universe - matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration…
The dumb art F's up a coupe of nice Epiphone es Pauls . . .
Thats one way to look at it 😂 the other would be “otherwise bland guitar real estate graced by fine artwork by one of the most influential artist of the 20th century”. Either one is legit.
its still just a epiphone with a picture on the back not worth the 2k people are asking
Hey Dave! Nothing wrong with having that opinion. As I said in my final thoughts - its not a player’s guitar. Its a collectable item that can make music. The idea is unique, the effort to make it happen on Epiphone’s part is admirable - but its not for everybody. Thanks for the comment!
@@ksmusiclounge1648 But why the Heck has everything that comes from Gibson/Epiphone has to be a collectors piece nowadays ?What the phuk is going on with that, are rich people really that bored out of this life? Where's the 600-800$/€ model of that guitar that can actually be played without worrying about scratching up the back of the guitar. As Dave pointed out that price gouging right after this stuff leaves the factory is ridiculous, a collectors piece often gets that status later on not right out of the box (for example the zakk wylde models that you just cant get anymore). Its as if scalpers and factory XYZ collude with one another in this day and age, if youre looking at those prices that most of the limited stuff fetches right now right after it just got sold. Just my two cents. Sorry for any incoherent brabbling or any grammatical errors as english is not my first language.
Greetings from germany.
Gruße nach Deutschland! Well, its true thar there’s a lot of marketing going into this, maybe a bit too much…
But this type of guitar (I have the VOB) is better than my Gibson Les Paul Custom in all ways, and it's worth the price (I payed from a private seller 500 more the listed price). I'm a guitarlover, and I owned certainly 15 Epis and 8 Gibsons...
It's all inferior. It's such a rip-off.
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Have you played it?
Wow it's like a trogly RIP off.
Trogly is the GOAT
Like Trogly was the first to ever unbox a guitar lol
ew
Is that good or bad?