For foundation, you can put a fabricator on a dashbot producing foundation. That way it can place foundation one after another and only needs to pick up iron occasionally. It's quite fast.
I was thinking about early mobile Fabricators today as a possible supply of plates and bars, when it suddenly hit me that it could be a better way to design a dedicated foundation bot. Lock slots, set it to deliver and request but not supply, and it will be the only bot that can fulfill foundation build requests. It can run out of foundations if you request too many at once, and in my testing it slowed down quite a bit when that happened since it would pick up a fairly small batch of bars and would prioritize placing as soon as it had built any more foundations at all... but even then, it's much faster than grabbing one at a time from a fixed location. In any case, I came to the comments just to share that trick, only to find that other players are ahead of me. 🙂
@@ronhatch9175 That is so clever! Right now, I have a facility producing foundations on channel 4, and then my dashbot has a behavior, that says Check own inventory for less than 5 foundations. If true, pickup to 40, to continue bricklaying, but without having it go back an forth for only one foundation at a time. But the solution could be further effective with a Twinbot, and own foundationproduction!
Hey, so after unlocking the Advanced Logistics tech, I started playing around with the radios and discovered a way to make a vacuum bot work FAR better than any behavior I've seen. Largely based on what you showed in this video, but with full coverage instead of needing to move nearby before it will detect. The key is to use those power pylons you've got throughout your base. Throw a radar and radio transmitter on a few of them. (Adapt the spacing to your particular pylon layout... hover over the radar while full overlays are on to see the coverage.) Set the radar to look for dropped items, probably also with the filter to require they be in the power grid. Link the radar output to the transmitter and link the dropped items filter to the transmitter band (or just set it, but the link works better as a blueprint since you can change some to scan for enemies). I like to also change the light color to easily spot which pylons have radar and what they are scanning for. Then make a bot with a radio receiver, set the band to dropped items, and link what's received to the Goto register. Set the Store register to wherever you want the results to end up, and you're done. If you use an appropriate pattern when placing the pylons, it's easy to achieve that oh-so-sweet full coverage of your base.
You can use this for guard bots too... If you are playing on Ageessive wildlife gamemode, bugs will occasionally attack you... You can use this kind of setup on your soldiers, have them run around looking for hostiles; when a tower finds an enemy, your army will automatically respond to the attack. Pretty helpful, but I get the feeling that most people who play this game play it like a factory game instead of a TDS/RTS
@@natey313 Yeah, I immediately set up another set looking for enemies. Still haven't tried it on an aggressive world, but the more I play the more I become convinced that an RTS needs attacking waves of enemies. I'll probably want a behavior on the defenders, since running straight in guns blazing doesn't seem like the best approach.
One thing about chaining production (5:46) is that if that's the only way you're producing dependencies, it's very slow. The nature of it means that only one of the two systems will be active at the same time and it gets even worse if you try to account for indirect dependencies in the same way
I ended up with a similar deconstructor bot as yours, but I discovered if you link the target to your go-to register you can actually just right-click on something to deconstruct. This also allows you to hold shift and queue multiple deconstructs at a time!
Improvement for the heal bot and the vacuum scout: You can link a second register to the move register (e.g., the signal register). You'll get a red arrow, which will only push its value when there's nothing to push from the initial green arrow - there's a priority. So you can attach your heal bot or your vacuum scout to another location or to your squad of attack units: They'll follow your units by default and only if the radar detects something, they'll move in to heal or pick up. You could even drive the concept further and add a third location which is used in case your attack unit gets killed, e.g., go back to your base. Desynced is a great playground, with a fantastic underlying conceptual framework 😄
This game really helps scratch that Factorio itch! Also, great video, really helpful. I also look forward to watching your play through but you taking the time to go into more concept detail in a tutorial style video is much appreciated!!
In the Blight tech tree, you can unlock a blight magnifier to slowly regnerate nearby ressource and you can get a ressource converter too. You could unlock warp device in the restricted demo but i did not see it yet. If you restart with the higher ressources option make a lot of uplink tower, i use 11 of them and it greatly speed up the research time. (those 8000s tech are annoying). I'm still missing the Alien tech unlock though
For foundation bot - add behavior which will check if it has less than a 40, then go get and loot more from source. It will try to always have full pack. With extra size component the scout has 8 slots which can fit 320 foundations. This bot will cover lots of space
I didn't have a vacuum yet last night, so what I did instead was picking up the deconstructed buildings and stacking them in the closest powerpole to be used when I next build stuff. Cheers.
can u explain how Transport routes works? I done what it says in tutorial but now working like I select worker bot & then right click drag transport route to miner bot but it's now working. The worker bot route icon changed to miner bot but nothing else even my tutorial is not getting completed. Not sure what I am doing wrong?? Any Suggestion ?
@@lopendes So what you need to do is this: 1. Set a bot to transport route mode (right click logistics button and check the box). 2. Set the bot to GO TO the miner to pickup from (right-click the miner). 3. Set the bot to STORE at the destination (CTRL-right-click the storage). Make sure for step three that you are setting the STORE register and not the GO TO register.
@@yinyang107 Thanks a lot, This is more clear then the tutorial or may be I don't understand the tutorial as it says worker & miner bot so I got confused there. Thanks Again.
Improving the destruction Bot: I added an empty behaviour controller. Add as many parameters as you like, then drag them into the target field. The robot will now destroy these objects one after the other. Very convenient when destructing a large group of buildings.
awesome I learned so much I´m at the beginning I researched the 7 beginner technology and I realised I do so many wrong 1Question please how do you clear the fauna (trees and so on) and get such a big spot?
Was the bot on channel 2 still only picking up one item at a time? I've been manually dragging stacks so one bot can lay dozens of foundations before returning to the store. Wanting to automate stack pickups, to reduce logistic traffic, don't know how yet
@@elilewis8212 I was playing blind until this video, was hoping he would address it, as had a swarm of logistic bots just to keep up to miners and smelters. Now I've turned miners off the network and have them deliver to a storage near the smelter, and just unlocked the adjacent transporter device which is gonna revolutionise my setups. I'm sure there will be a way to transport larger quantities than 1 in the coding menus but I'm not touching them with a ten foot pole anytime soon ^^
@matthewlaffey8360 I'm still just happy to get mine to go from point a to point b. I'm still learning how to add in point c,d,e and than start over to point a
13:03 - So, you're basically NATting your subnets... 😂 Devs, please don't allow IPv4 numbers of channels, I've done too much of that professionally! 🤣😭
@NickVan71 Yes, but he had to automate logistic first, and make mall. He kinda did all that can be done without logic. Now expanding factory needs logic.
One thing this game could really use is better tutorial and more importantly actual in-game description of the functions! The one-liner is definitely not the way to go. It needs to be on the same level as the programming language definition - detailed + debug I have wasted way too much time for trial and error method second guessing what some of them are and how to use them. Hopefully something we will see in the future
Hey Nilaus, I don't really like this video, the title doesn't look like one of your videos and the content is basically the same as your last video on the playthrough. I understand that you try to reach a new audience but don't make it at the expense of what makes your channel successful
For foundation, you can put a fabricator on a dashbot producing foundation. That way it can place foundation one after another and only needs to pick up iron occasionally. It's quite fast.
Use a second dashbot to supply the iron?
I was thinking about early mobile Fabricators today as a possible supply of plates and bars, when it suddenly hit me that it could be a better way to design a dedicated foundation bot. Lock slots, set it to deliver and request but not supply, and it will be the only bot that can fulfill foundation build requests. It can run out of foundations if you request too many at once, and in my testing it slowed down quite a bit when that happened since it would pick up a fairly small batch of bars and would prioritize placing as soon as it had built any more foundations at all... but even then, it's much faster than grabbing one at a time from a fixed location.
In any case, I came to the comments just to share that trick, only to find that other players are ahead of me. 🙂
@@ronhatch9175 That is so clever! Right now, I have a facility producing foundations on channel 4, and then my dashbot has a behavior, that says Check own inventory for less than 5 foundations. If true, pickup to 40, to continue bricklaying, but without having it go back an forth for only one foundation at a time.
But the solution could be further effective with a Twinbot, and own foundationproduction!
@@ronhatch9175You can use a behavioral controller to make it pick up a full stack of bars
Hey, so after unlocking the Advanced Logistics tech, I started playing around with the radios and discovered a way to make a vacuum bot work FAR better than any behavior I've seen. Largely based on what you showed in this video, but with full coverage instead of needing to move nearby before it will detect.
The key is to use those power pylons you've got throughout your base. Throw a radar and radio transmitter on a few of them. (Adapt the spacing to your particular pylon layout... hover over the radar while full overlays are on to see the coverage.) Set the radar to look for dropped items, probably also with the filter to require they be in the power grid. Link the radar output to the transmitter and link the dropped items filter to the transmitter band (or just set it, but the link works better as a blueprint since you can change some to scan for enemies). I like to also change the light color to easily spot which pylons have radar and what they are scanning for.
Then make a bot with a radio receiver, set the band to dropped items, and link what's received to the Goto register. Set the Store register to wherever you want the results to end up, and you're done. If you use an appropriate pattern when placing the pylons, it's easy to achieve that oh-so-sweet full coverage of your base.
You can use this for guard bots too... If you are playing on Ageessive wildlife gamemode, bugs will occasionally attack you... You can use this kind of setup on your soldiers, have them run around looking for hostiles; when a tower finds an enemy, your army will automatically respond to the attack. Pretty helpful, but I get the feeling that most people who play this game play it like a factory game instead of a TDS/RTS
@@natey313 Yeah, I immediately set up another set looking for enemies. Still haven't tried it on an aggressive world, but the more I play the more I become convinced that an RTS needs attacking waves of enemies.
I'll probably want a behavior on the defenders, since running straight in guns blazing doesn't seem like the best approach.
One thing about chaining production (5:46) is that if that's the only way you're producing dependencies, it's very slow. The nature of it means that only one of the two systems will be active at the same time and it gets even worse if you try to account for indirect dependencies in the same way
I ended up with a similar deconstructor bot as yours, but I discovered if you link the target to your go-to register you can actually just right-click on something to deconstruct. This also allows you to hold shift and queue multiple deconstructs at a time!
Thank you bbb
Improvement for the heal bot and the vacuum scout: You can link a second register to the move register (e.g., the signal register).
You'll get a red arrow, which will only push its value when there's nothing to push from the initial green arrow - there's a priority.
So you can attach your heal bot or your vacuum scout to another location or to your squad of attack units: They'll follow your units by default and only if the radar detects something, they'll move in to heal or pick up.
You could even drive the concept further and add a third location which is used in case your attack unit gets killed, e.g., go back to your base.
Desynced is a great playground, with a fantastic underlying conceptual framework 😄
Tip: put a radar on your deconstructer and have it search for SOLVED.
Tip: have a drone to pickup ground stuff using the radar as well
This game really helps scratch that Factorio itch! Also, great video, really helpful. I also look forward to watching your play through but you taking the time to go into more concept detail in a tutorial style video is much appreciated!!
It's a brand new game. Factorio had issues whilst in early access. It may be difficult to do different things but either we learn or the Devs adapt
Or a mixture of both, we learn together!
In the Blight tech tree, you can unlock a blight magnifier to slowly regnerate nearby ressource and you can get a ressource converter too.
You could unlock warp device in the restricted demo but i did not see it yet.
If you restart with the higher ressources option make a lot of uplink tower, i use 11 of them and it greatly speed up the research time. (those 8000s tech are annoying). I'm still missing the Alien tech unlock though
You need to kill the alien soldiers in the blight - they'll drop an item which you can only pick up once you can enter the blight.
@@stefans.226 Oh, they hit hard though
For foundation bot - add behavior which will check if it has less than a 40, then go get and loot more from source. It will try to always have full pack. With extra size component the scout has 8 slots which can fit 320 foundations. This bot will cover lots of space
5:46 Yes, that has been a standard UI convention for many years, and the game ought to respect that.
I didn't have a vacuum yet last night, so what I did instead was picking up the deconstructed buildings and stacking them in the closest powerpole to be used when I next build stuff.
Cheers.
Thank you for the tips, definitely some good time savers.
Just started the game and love it. Keep up the videos!
So do you have vods channel nilaus ? Really not a fan of watching on twitch
If I rember right there is one called NilausTV or something
Transport routes are part of the tutorial now.
can u explain how Transport routes works? I done what it says in tutorial but now working like I select worker bot & then right click drag transport route to miner bot but it's now working. The worker bot route icon changed to miner bot but nothing else even my tutorial is not getting completed. Not sure what I am doing wrong?? Any Suggestion ?
@@lopendes So what you need to do is this:
1. Set a bot to transport route mode (right click logistics button and check the box).
2. Set the bot to GO TO the miner to pickup from (right-click the miner).
3. Set the bot to STORE at the destination (CTRL-right-click the storage).
Make sure for step three that you are setting the STORE register and not the GO TO register.
@@yinyang107 Thanks a lot, This is more clear then the tutorial or may be I don't understand the tutorial as it says worker & miner bot so I got confused there. Thanks Again.
@@lopendes Happy to help!
Improving the destruction Bot:
I added an empty behaviour controller. Add as many parameters as you like, then drag them into the target field. The robot will now destroy these objects one after the other. Very convenient when destructing a large group of buildings.
awesome
I learned so much
I´m at the beginning I researched the 7 beginner technology
and I realised I do so many wrong
1Question please
how do you clear the fauna (trees and so on) and get such a big spot?
Im gonna take a shot in the dark and say deconstructor.
Build and place Foundations. It all goes away except for the stuff that can be "mined" like ore and trees.
Using the channels for laying down the foundations. I love that idea
Was the bot on channel 2 still only picking up one item at a time? I've been manually dragging stacks so one bot can lay dozens of foundations before returning to the store. Wanting to automate stack pickups, to reduce logistic traffic, don't know how yet
@matthewlaffey8360 not sure. I think it only does one tile at a time. Not sure if that's just the way it is or if we can mess with it
@@elilewis8212 I was playing blind until this video, was hoping he would address it, as had a swarm of logistic bots just to keep up to miners and smelters.
Now I've turned miners off the network and have them deliver to a storage near the smelter, and just unlocked the adjacent transporter device which is gonna revolutionise my setups.
I'm sure there will be a way to transport larger quantities than 1 in the coding menus but I'm not touching them with a ten foot pole anytime soon ^^
@matthewlaffey8360 I'm still just happy to get mine to go from point a to point b. I'm still learning how to add in point c,d,e and than start over to point a
@matthewlaffey8360 a channel for the miners only. Never thought of that.
Very intuitive, thx!
13:03 - So, you're basically NATting your subnets... 😂
Devs, please don't allow IPv4 numbers of channels, I've done too much of that professionally! 🤣😭
xD
How are you clicking on a storage container and you see the 3 ticks where you can go into behaviors for that particular unit or item?
Nilaus for president 🥳
Great episode. I think this format works way better than let’s play format for this specific game. Thanks.
@NickVan71 Yes, but he had to automate logistic first, and make mall. He kinda did all that can be done without logic. Now expanding factory needs logic.
i might be blind but how do you import behaviors?
21:02 Service Bots: Deconstruct
Please ....
How to multiple deconstruct ?
How do you rotate a building?
set entity target to deconstuct target, this way deconstruction will be quicker, just click deconstructor, then click to deconstruct, done
Is it me or everything is blurry? I'm at max available resolution which is only 1080 but it looks blurrier than it should.
One thing this game could really use is better tutorial and more importantly actual in-game description of the functions! The one-liner is definitely not the way to go. It needs to be on the same level as the programming language definition - detailed + debug I have wasted way too much time for trial and error method second guessing what some of them are and how to use them. Hopefully something we will see in the future
The vaccum bot is the biggest takeaway for me.
Yup.... I skipped the game tutorial and i feel like a fool.... This really help.... Stupid hours of gameplay just wasted😢
perfect
first, amazing game
Hey Nilaus, I don't really like this video, the title doesn't look like one of your videos and the content is basically the same as your last video on the playthrough. I understand that you try to reach a new audience but don't make it at the expense of what makes your channel successful