This exact model was the very first VCR my family got, summer of 1983. We had that old VCR for years, even after we went to VHS in the spring of 1989. I used that old Betamax to dub movies. That VCR stayed with us until the mid 2000’s. Good times
I must confess I've never actually owned a Betamax, got a few tapes for it, got a few when they were dumping them when I worked on TV, so there's loads of video game trailers on Betamax I own strangely. But that's it. Family always had VHS.
RetroGamerVX I vividly remember a very nice old Akai toploading VHS VCR that we watched a ton of movies on with friends back in the day. I'd love to get my hands on such a VCR. Akai had a different design compared to others, quite a distinct font that was used and styling. Loved that. Also quite a fan of the old Pioneer brand.
Betamax was better than VHS and I still stand by that view now. I started off with a good secondhand Betamax back in 1985 when video recorders were still expensive and it lasted me five years. Eventually I had to change to the inferior VHS system because Betamax lost the format war. I also have in my possession a Video 2000 which I bought from a car boot sale years ago and it worked for a while. I am wondering you would be interested in it for spares or repair as I am having a de-clutter at home at the moment and I am reluctant to just throw something like that out. I have met you up at Nenthead Mines recently and I hope to see you again soon.
Hmm, you met me up there? lol. Was that at the Assay House? As for the machine, just looked it up, yes, I'd be interested, do you know what's wrong with it? :o)
Yes, it was at the Assay House. When I tried it last time the picture quality wasn't too good, it probably would work okay if it has a new head drum. You will need a digibox with an analogue RF output and a television that takes an analogue signal. I will be up at Nenthead on Saturday 18th November as it is the annual NMCS do then.
Unfortunatly, I'm at work on that day, but if you live somewhere in teh region, I could come and collect? You wanna talk on Facebook, a bit more private there lol? facebook.com/stephen.twigg.3
Try the tracking knob. Picked up a very similar beta vcr at a Goodwill. Had lines all over the place. Definetly needs a cleaning on the heads. Adjusting the tracking knob helped a lot.
My unit was also retrieved from a pile of garbage in a front yard. Thanks RetroGamerVX for this video. Incredibly helpful. Mine is a Magnasonic MVC 700 but is the exact unit with the exception of a speed switch on the front labeled BII or BIII for speed. I can't get my tapes (180min) to play properly in the machine regardless what speed is selected. They play very slow and wont track. I can barely see an image. I assume this is a belt issue so will try that first - but if anyone has any other ideas I am all ears.
This is the exact same machine that my family had in the 1980s (when I was a young kid), in Australia. We used it for many years. All the movies we hired out from the video store had to be on Beta during the 1980s. Our local video store had a basement (where all the Beta videos were stocked). I remember always having to walk in the front door of the video store, walk past all the VHS titles and then down the stairs to the Beta section. We moved onto a VHS player sometime in the early 1990s, after Beta had finally lost the battle against VHS. I remember my parents originally thought that Beta would win, or there would (at least) always be a tie. Now my family has to concede that we were wrong.
@@RetroGamerVX Now that I got the cover off, I saw that the belt for the idler had broken so I experimented with a rubber band and it works! Very happy, you earned a sub, good sir!
@@HughMacEachern Yes - I feel stupid - but for the life of me I still cant figure this tape cover removal out. Any other other details you could give that might assist further?
@@production6155 There should be a plastic strip running horizontal to the tape deck. The screws to remove the tape cover are under that piece of plastic.
I don't really do repair videos anymore as I don't pick much up or repair computers any more. I don't mind this as I've wanted one for years but can't justify the price they command.
Me being watching most of youre video's there a so many repair video's you didnt finish.. but thats totally fine.. just keep up the video's.. you are awesome :)
Lovely find, the old thing looks like new. Probably weighs a ton. Hopefully you can fix her up, and I'd not be surprised if you pinched a few other bits from a tasty skip like that ! Like the old Murphy telly too. Probably the tape path needs cleaning, and perhaps the belts. Some Grundig VHS machines had this strange tape loading system as well, they were called "Charlie Decks" from memory. You could try an "O" ring on that idler. The gear drive I think was for Rewind/FF, the rubber idler for take-up.
Yes, it does weigh a tonn lol. I've got some belts ordered for it and some chemicals to help the idler :o) Yes, lovely telly that needed no work on it, only paid £10 for it :) Ahh, if it's the gear drive then likely the belt issue :)
I tried that one, the tyre, for some reason, goes slack. It will fast forward, but now rewind as it can't quite reach. I'm going to glue a rubber band around it as a temporary measure :o)
A few idler tips I found that work on turntables and some projectors, If the idler is a rubber ring aka think rubber band here that fits into a grove in the plastic or metal holder.. Use a oring that is snug by remove old rubber first. If the idler is solid rubber with a plastic shaft or metal. Buy a rubber hose that fits over snug and thight. Just put the hose part over the rubber and it well work. Also you can buy rubber renew it works ok. Some times if you can keep it round using sandpaper well remove the glaze on it you need to spin it and sand at the same time.
that sanyo betacord is mass seller..and you just change the ideler and belts ..to get nice picture you must clean head and adjust traking in bottom vcr .. if you change bad capacitor you get amazing picture and quality
hi were £400 when came out i worked on them in the past there's a sony ad somewhere on here i have this star wars on V2000 pre recorded tape had 5 of this model went over to betacam sp as it's far better no sound drop outs
You only need the idler tyre, which I can still get.The rest of the idler assembly is bomb proof.The patended idler assemblies always come flying apart after a few uses as the top washer let's go. It's happened a lot hence why I only change the tyre now.Also don't use 'O' rings as I see some suggesting elsewhere.There are many other areas that need seeing too after 30 odd years too.
You can get them? I've not seen any of the tyres on the net so if you could, that would be good. Gonna spruce up the rubber in the mean time. Why not use o rings?
'O' rings are rounded and shiny, the correct belt's are matt and square helping them to grip inside the pulleys.'O' rings are not designed for use with pulleys otherwise the manufacturers would have fitted them.It's another shortcut some suggest which will not last long.
the bottom failure is like the tape or the pinch roller. Or simple the tracking for this tape. The Lineal is aligned to low that means you must align the tape on the pinch roller side a little bit higher! You can see that on the bottom of the tape that is rolling a little bit - this tape mus stand straight to the head drum(scanner). Clean the Center wheel in the mid of the winding reel or renew it! This is a old machine so you need to renew this or clean it in the minimal version. Maybe the pinch roller have the problem what is with the wrong running tape on the scanner.(this is the picture failure on the bottom part of the picture).
HiI regularly service and overhaul/refurb these to a very high standard.Yes even now they are still in demand. Sadly many who state they service these seem to do a pretty poor job for the monies they charge. I've seen their efforts.Also the reason WHY Sanyo called their decks Betacord is for two reasons.One they developed a system just before Betamax called Video cord and ..Secondly they decided from the VTC 5000 model (and every other model they made until their switch to VHS only in 1987) to have the deck unlace for the fast wind modes to save excessive friction and wear to the tape, heads and mechanicals. All other beta types keep the tape laced during these modes as did Sanyo's first four models.The noise at the bottom of the screen is either the crossover point is set a tad to high,or the tape guide at the drum exit point has been moved up, by someone thinking this will help it play better.The people who skipped this have obviously not heard of e-bay.Nice find. It's probably the most popular model out there.
I think that some of the belts have to be replaced as they tend to doze and break down and disintegrate over time due to the nature of what the belts are made from if the belts were made from butyl rubber the belts would not happen.
Nice find I'd love to find a vhs or beta top loader or any older electronics . I would rather find the vhs top loader because it's so hard to find eat tapes in my area.
It's really funny to see how the porn industry is capable of making or braking video formats. VHS was chosen by the porn industry over of Betamax or Video2000 BluRay was chosen by the porn industry over HD-DVD I reckon the winner for the most viable VR platform will be the platform the porn industry gravitates to.
RetroGamerVX Well actually not too knowledgeable about porn either but it is what drives the video format industry to a large extend. More so than the big block buster movies. Even more money is earned in the porn industry.
+lactobacillusprime Well if you need any knowledge and to know about differents type of porn you can't unlearn just let me know. Clowns can get down and that's all i'll say now. ;D
Here's a new idler tyre for this machine: www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Sanyo-Betacord-upper-idler-tyre-beta-/222190572731?hash=item33bb9714bb:g:jV8AAOSwagdXRpYp I have this model too and many more Sanyo's. Built like tanks! The VTC 5000 uses a geared top idler for low-torque movement in play and search modes and a tyre underneath for FF and REW.
Here you barely never find electronics anymore in the trash, it must be dropped at a "proper collection center" (aka e-waste fort Knox, where nothing can get out) for proper "recycling" (even it it's a very collectible item or just perfectly working). How sad.
About right. Can't let you have that guv, you might hurty wurty yourself. Elf'n'safety nazis. All they need to do is to put a sign saying "Items taken from here are taken at the taker's risk" but oh no FAR too sensible. What happened to the REUSE in their bleated phrase "Reduce Reuse Recycle" ? Most of this stuff ends up polluting the 3rd world. So who do they think they're kidding.
This exact model was the very first VCR my family got, summer of 1983. We had that old VCR for years, even after we went to VHS in the spring of 1989. I used that old Betamax to dub movies. That VCR stayed with us until the mid 2000’s. Good times
Wow! I had the same thing back in 1983. This was my first VCR.
Yup, and years later, after that repair, it’s still working fine :)
Same.
I must confess I've never actually owned a Betamax, got a few tapes for it, got a few when they were dumping them when I worked on TV, so there's loads of video game trailers on Betamax I own strangely. But that's it. Family always had VHS.
now they would be good to get online :)
I’ve just started transferring from Beta to TH-cam. If you wanted to send me them I could upload them!
My family had both VHS and Beta.
Love those toploading VCRs brings back memories.
That's what got my attention initially, been after a full size old top loading vcr for many years but never seen them in the wild.
RetroGamerVX I vividly remember a very nice old Akai toploading VHS VCR that we watched a ton of movies on with friends back in the day. I'd love to get my hands on such a VCR.
Akai had a different design compared to others, quite a distinct font that was used and styling. Loved that. Also quite a fan of the old Pioneer brand.
Yes, my parents first was a top loader, remember it cost around £600 back in around 83!!
They are my favourite too. My dad bought our first vcr top loader in 1980/81 for 1250 dollars .
Betamax was better than VHS and I still stand by that view now. I started off with a good secondhand Betamax back in 1985 when video recorders were still expensive and it lasted me five years. Eventually I had to change to the inferior VHS system because Betamax lost the format war. I also have in my possession a Video 2000 which I bought from a car boot sale years ago and it worked for a while. I am wondering you would be interested in it for spares or repair as I am having a de-clutter at home at the moment and I am reluctant to just throw something like that out. I have met you up at Nenthead Mines recently and I hope to see you again soon.
Hmm, you met me up there? lol. Was that at the Assay House? As for the machine, just looked it up, yes, I'd be interested, do you know what's wrong with it? :o)
Yes, it was at the Assay House. When I tried it last time the picture quality wasn't too good, it probably would work okay if it has a new head drum. You will need a digibox with an analogue RF output and a television that takes an analogue signal. I will be up at Nenthead on Saturday 18th November as it is the annual NMCS do then.
Unfortunatly, I'm at work on that day, but if you live somewhere in teh region, I could come and collect? You wanna talk on Facebook, a bit more private there lol? facebook.com/stephen.twigg.3
I remember those from the 80's. as a kid I thought those devices were magical.
Yep, worked by voo doo magic :o)
Try the tracking knob. Picked up a very similar beta vcr at a Goodwill. Had lines all over the place. Definetly needs a cleaning on the heads. Adjusting the tracking knob helped a lot.
Heck, try go to those skip bins more often! That's an excellent find.
I visit them quite often :o)
My unit was also retrieved from a pile of garbage in a front yard. Thanks RetroGamerVX for this video. Incredibly helpful. Mine is a Magnasonic MVC 700 but is the exact unit with the exception of a speed switch on the front labeled BII or BIII for speed. I can't get my tapes (180min) to play properly in the machine regardless what speed is selected. They play very slow and wont track. I can barely see an image. I assume this is a belt issue so will try that first - but if anyone has any other ideas I am all ears.
The perfect movie to play on an old Betamax . Well any Star Wars movie is the perfect movie for me to test on any video player of any type.
This is the exact same machine that my family had in the 1980s (when I was a young kid), in Australia. We used it for many years. All the movies we hired out from the video store had to be on Beta during the 1980s. Our local video store had a basement (where all the Beta videos were stocked). I remember always having to walk in the front door of the video store, walk past all the VHS titles and then down the stairs to the Beta section. We moved onto a VHS player sometime in the early 1990s, after Beta had finally lost the battle against VHS. I remember my parents originally thought that Beta would win, or there would (at least) always be a tie. Now my family has to concede that we were wrong.
How did you get the top off? I've tried to get mine off, but the plastic shell over the tape chasis prevents me from removing it.
on the tape cover, pull up the little black strip (just snaps off), 2 screws under that, remove tape cover, big cover will come off.
@@RetroGamerVX Oh my god thank you! I've been puzzling over how to get mine off for a few hours now!
@@RetroGamerVX Now that I got the cover off, I saw that the belt for the idler had broken so I experimented with a rubber band and it works! Very happy, you earned a sub, good sir!
@@HughMacEachern Yes - I feel stupid - but for the life of me I still cant figure this tape cover removal out. Any other other details you could give that might assist further?
@@production6155 There should be a plastic strip running horizontal to the tape deck. The screws to remove the tape cover are under that piece of plastic.
Yay, another repair video.. i missed this .. please more!
I don't really do repair videos anymore as I don't pick much up or repair computers any more. I don't mind this as I've wanted one for years but can't justify the price they command.
Me being watching most of youre video's there a so many repair video's you didnt finish.. but thats totally fine.. just keep up the video's.. you are awesome :)
Yup, a few abandoned projects as they were beyond me, or I had better things to do lol
I found a '84 version with a Olympics hype sticker. Can't seem to get it to record though.
Bugger :o(
Lovely find, the old thing looks like new. Probably weighs a ton. Hopefully you can fix her up, and I'd not be surprised if you pinched a few other bits from a tasty skip like that ! Like the old Murphy telly too. Probably the tape path needs cleaning, and perhaps the belts. Some Grundig VHS machines had this strange tape loading system as well, they were called "Charlie Decks" from memory. You could try an "O" ring on that idler. The gear drive I think was for Rewind/FF, the rubber idler for take-up.
Yes, it does weigh a tonn lol. I've got some belts ordered for it and some chemicals to help the idler :o) Yes, lovely telly that needed no work on it, only paid £10 for it :) Ahh, if it's the gear drive then likely the belt issue :)
i have the exact same one sitting right next to me right now :D
I only had to flip the idler tire in order to make it FF/REW.
I tried that one, the tyre, for some reason, goes slack. It will fast forward, but now rewind as it can't quite reach. I'm going to glue a rubber band around it as a temporary measure :o)
Guys what's the difference between a vhs and a betamax(VCR)?
Google is your friend ;o)
A few idler tips I found that work on turntables and some projectors,
If the idler is a rubber ring aka think rubber band here that fits into a grove in the plastic or metal holder.. Use a oring that is snug by remove old rubber first.
If the idler is solid rubber with a plastic shaft or metal. Buy a rubber hose that fits over snug and thight. Just put the hose part over the rubber and it well work.
Also you can buy rubber renew it works ok.
Some times if you can keep it round using sandpaper well remove the glaze on it you need to spin it and sand at the same time.
Thanks for that, plan is to use rubber restorer, if that doesn't work alone, other people have told me also to roughen up the edge.
that sanyo betacord is mass seller..and you just change the ideler and belts ..to get nice picture you must clean head and adjust traking in bottom vcr .. if you change bad capacitor you get amazing picture and quality
Do you know how to do it? I keep trying to change the belts on mine but I can't get past the top loader to get inside.
Hallo I have a Sanyo VTC 5150 Beta VCR where I have to change rubber kit. Can you tell me where can buy.Thanks
bruno ciglenečki no idea, i used tap washers :)
bruno ciglenečki try Googling Mister Betamax or Absolute Beta Products.
my school just threw away its tape library last week and all its betamax and microfilm equipment.
Not are rare player at all but one of the more common mono ones from the early 80's 👍
Excelente video gracias por compartirlo
hi were £400 when came out i worked on them in the past there's a sony ad somewhere on here i have this star wars on V2000 pre recorded tape had
5 of this model went over to betacam sp as it's far better no sound drop outs
You only need the idler tyre, which I can still get.The rest of the idler assembly is bomb proof.The patended idler assemblies always come flying apart after a few uses as the top washer let's go. It's happened a lot hence why I only change the tyre now.Also don't use 'O' rings as I see some suggesting elsewhere.There are many other areas that need seeing too after 30 odd years too.
You can get them? I've not seen any of the tyres on the net so if you could, that would be good. Gonna spruce up the rubber in the mean time. Why not use o rings?
'O' rings are rounded and shiny, the correct belt's are matt and square helping them to grip inside the pulleys.'O' rings are not designed for use with pulleys otherwise the manufacturers would have fitted them.It's another shortcut some suggest which will not last long.
I love the Beta format
love the machines, haven't given this one a run for years, must do that. Give me an idea for a documentary :)
the bottom failure is like the tape or the pinch roller. Or simple the tracking for this tape. The Lineal is aligned to low that means you must align the tape on the pinch roller side a little bit higher! You can see that on the bottom of the tape that is rolling a little bit - this tape mus stand straight to the head drum(scanner). Clean the Center wheel in the mid of the winding reel or renew it! This is a old machine so you need to renew this or clean it in the minimal version. Maybe the pinch roller have the problem what is with the wrong running tape on the scanner.(this is the picture failure on the bottom part of the picture).
I remember adjusting the tracking on my vhs recorder to remove that annoying static line at the bottom back in the day.
HiI regularly service and overhaul/refurb these to a very high standard.Yes even now they are still in demand. Sadly many who state they service these seem to do a pretty poor job for the monies they charge. I've seen their efforts.Also the reason WHY Sanyo called their decks Betacord is for two reasons.One they developed a system just before Betamax called Video cord and ..Secondly they decided from the VTC 5000 model (and every other model they made until their switch to VHS only in 1987) to have the deck unlace for the fast wind modes to save excessive friction and wear to the tape, heads and mechanicals. All other beta types keep the tape laced during these modes as did Sanyo's first four models.The noise at the bottom of the screen is either the crossover point is set a tad to high,or the tape guide at the drum exit point has been moved up, by someone thinking this will help it play better.The people who skipped this have obviously not heard of e-bay.Nice find. It's probably the most popular model out there.
It's a cooperation that dumps them, they don't care about value. Thanks for the explinations :)
I had this thing as a kid.
I think that some of the belts have to be replaced as they tend to doze and break down and disintegrate over time due to the nature of what the belts are made from if the belts were made from butyl rubber the belts would not happen.
Nice find I'd love to find a vhs or beta top loader or any older electronics . I would rather find the vhs top loader because it's so hard to find eat tapes in my area.
You don't see them in the wild here wither, like laserdiscs.
Betamax lan bu bunun kasedi bulunmuyo
I use to have that system you have meany years ago
The fast forward and rewind wasn't brilliant and the top loader draw if it chewed... so eventually moved to VHS. But interesting with the technology.
Thats the first video recorder we had.
We had a similar vis one :)
wow guru Larry gets everywhere
Aye lol
Clean the rubber idler with washingup liquid , quick fix , Better to replace it
Yes, not heard of that one. Can't find a replacement yet so best to freshen up in the mean time :)
It's really funny to see how the porn industry is capable of making or braking video formats.
VHS was chosen by the porn industry over of Betamax or Video2000
BluRay was chosen by the porn industry over HD-DVD
I reckon the winner for the most viable VR platform will be the platform the porn industry gravitates to.
I don't know much about porn, I'm innocent ;o) Apparently, the big draw for Betamax is the B movie horror films that were unique to the format :o)
RetroGamerVX Well actually not too knowledgeable about porn either but it is what drives the video format industry to a large extend. More so than the big block buster movies. Even more money is earned in the porn industry.
+lactobacillusprime Well if you need any knowledge and to know about differents type of porn you can't unlearn just let me know. Clowns can get down and that's all i'll say now. ;D
Clown porn!!! I've never seen any of that lol
+RetroGamerVX Beep beep Richie!!!
I have a Idea - If you can't find any parts - why don't you use your new V3 3D Printer to print out the parts that you need!!!
Doesn't print in rubber :o(
You can print in flexables like nijaflex
cool
VINTAGE CAMERAS Thanks :o)
BETAMAX VİDEO LAN BU, KASETLERİ BİLE BULUNMUYOR BUNUN!
Back in the day you couldn't rent a beta max video recorder only VHS.
RetroGamerjl78 you could rent beta. It was just harder to find a store that wasn't VHS only!
Here's a new idler tyre for this machine:
www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Sanyo-Betacord-upper-idler-tyre-beta-/222190572731?hash=item33bb9714bb:g:jV8AAOSwagdXRpYp
I have this model too and many more Sanyo's. Built like tanks! The VTC 5000 uses a geared top idler for low-torque movement in play and search modes and a tyre underneath for FF and REW.
Thanks, but just bought some stuff for it so I'll see how some restorer and roughing up the edges works before I spend that much on it :)
Here you barely never find electronics anymore in the trash, it must be dropped at a "proper collection center" (aka e-waste fort Knox, where nothing can get out) for proper "recycling" (even it it's a very collectible item or just perfectly working). How sad.
I know, this was at a place where it all waits to be disposed of properly :o)
I have more trouble finding a juicy sandwich for lunch. It always goes like this"Another friggin beta maxx?!!! Damn it i'm hungry!!!!" 😁
lol ;o)
About right. Can't let you have that guv, you might hurty wurty yourself. Elf'n'safety nazis. All they need to do is to put a sign saying "Items taken from here are taken at the taker's risk" but oh no FAR too sensible. What happened to the REUSE in their bleated phrase "Reduce Reuse Recycle" ? Most of this stuff ends up polluting the 3rd world. So who do they think they're kidding.
Under my worldwide communist dictature this wouldn't happen.
nice
Thanks :o)
You dragged it out while being drugged out lol
it's a VCR not a "betamax player"