Tractor Work Side Business - Is the Stump Grinder Paying for Itself?
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- We are using the Baumalight 3P24 tractor stump grinder to make money as part of our tractor side business.
Making money with a compact tractor is possible if you bid the jobs correctly
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Chainsawing in basketball shorts. Smart.
Interesting video. And here I thought that I had all the tractor toys that I needed. I think I'm addicted!
Well I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one. I always think I need one more thing
Looks like you are getting stump grinding down to a fine science. Good call on cutting that stump down first. After a few more jobs together, you will get a better feel for what to charge when you bring a helper that you have to hire.
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Interesting and well done video. I have the 1P24 fixed grinder, and have done a dozen or so large stumps. After a lot of reading and estimating, I am currently charging $3.50 per stump inch including the majority of the root base. For people that insist on an hourly rate that works out to be around $200 per hour.
It’s good to have a rule of thumb like that to estimate with but the problem with charging by the inch is that two 20 inch stumps is not equivalent to one 40 in Stump
The 40 inch stump is twice the area and takes twice as long to grind
@@RockhillfarmYTyes , surface area quadruples as diameter doubles
Wow that’s amazing!
It is a good Grinder
Thanks for watching
Nice work Brock, That was a pretty good sized stump.
Thank you sir
Brock, your initial cuts are fantastically flat and even.
Looked like a table top before grinding.
Well done sir 👍🏻.
Thanks. I’ve done a few of them now and starting to get the hang of it
I remember seeing the others you did. Better cuts than I could do. Lol.
Might consider saving the big half piece cuts and repurpose to sell as end table tops. Clean them up and add driftwood legs. Should fetch around 1k give or take several hundred. Shipping is your wildcard.
Just a thought since your diversifying and talented enough to do so.
Looked like beautiful rustic wood. They're a market for it. Tap into it 💵💲 vs disposing of it.
Good idea. I’ve been thinking about making a bench out of the hedge logs I have left
I thought about the first too, would look nice. Then though driftwood.
The market isn't necessarily for your neighbors, it's a big country with very diverse household income range that's geographically based. Shipping shipping shipping.
Now your thinking 😎 👍🏻.
Good luck!
I earn my living selling a product that we manufacture that weighs over 100 pounds and we ship at nationwide
So I’m established with company discounts for shipping large items
If you are interested in seeing what we make here’s a link
th-cam.com/video/qJnAMJr8EiE/w-d-xo.html
I have a raco mini workforce. It makes me work. Lol
But I've gotten good with it. A stump like that would take me 1-2 hrs, including cutting, including loading and unloading. Probably closer to 1.5-2 hours. Your pricing is fine, but a lot of that depends on how deep you are grinding.
I typically grind 4-6" below grade, which is usually good enough to grow grass.
No hourly rate, keep that price in mind though. Factor in what they'd need to rent/ their time/ how much you'd pay for the job. Along with some travel time and such, but never a hourly rate. A stump grinder that can handle that would be around $300, then 2 hours( your rate) along with their want to not do it. It would of probably been around $450-500 for that size around here.
Thanks for sharing
@@RockhillfarmYT Tractor Time With Tim just did a couple of videos on what charge.
I watched them.
Tonys tractor adventure also did a good version of the same thing
I think Tim’s numbers are a little high in some categories but I like how thorough he was
Thanks for sharing
@@RockhillfarmYT same thing I was thinking about TTWTs numbers, but if it works where he is then I guess he's not wrong.
You say the job took 2 hours and so $300 was a fair fee. Did you account for the time it took to hitch the implement, load the trailer, travel time, gas and trailer/truck wear, unloading, and cleaning? Those are all very real costs and need to be accounted for. If you don't you'll find yourself broke after 10 years, when all the repair/replacement costs catch up with you.
Yeah, the best videos I’ve seen on figuring all those cost and come up with between 75 and $200 per hour that the tractor runs
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I have to be like you calm when I find that last nub. Usually the customer come out to see if I’m ok
Not having a stump grinder I hire someone else. To save money I don't have them clean up the chips and do it myself. After scooping up what I can with the FEL on my 1025R, I use my ECHO Shred 'N' Vac...what a nice job it does - not a chip left.
Thanks for sharing
Wow didn’t realize there are so many attachments that go along with a tractor
Absolutely. These are a Swiss Army knife
I’ve got a bunch of attachments, Backhoe, wood chipper, Grapple, stump bucket, tiller, snow plow, box blade, post hole digger
Lots of toys to play with
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I have 3 large stumps like that in my yard! From Silver maple trees. My stump grinder is called. Natural decay they will be gone some day! lol
Great plan
It might not bother me too much in my own yard but there’s a lot of customer demand for it
@@RockhillfarmYT I understand that. I live in a rural area. So not as big of deal as if it were in a subdivision. Plus my comment was mostly for support and all I could think of!
@@rickvaughan8993 I appreciate those types of comments. Comments of any type help the channel.
Now do you clean up the mulch of the stump or just leave it there spread it out
What type of stumpgrinder attachment brand is this ?and does it fit on a mahindra?
It is a baumalight 3P24
This specific unit will run on any tractor that has at least 30 PTO horsepower and two rear remote hydraulics ports
If you don’t have those hydraulics or if you have less PTO horsepower you would need a fixed Mount grinder
I have a bunch of videos about this grinder and I also did a video comparing it to a fixed mount unit
Thanks for watching
So on that stump YOU made how much,50.00? 300 - helper - fuel cost for machine an transport- wear an tear on machine,time to an from job an on the job,just asking because I consider all those things when giving a price,
Around my parts. That size stump. 100$...two that size 225$
What would be a good size to start out with hp wise and size wise? Thinking of starting a business stump grinding business so any input would help! Thank you!
If you want to fixed Mount stump grinder you can run that on a small tractor like a 25 hp.
For this articulating style grinder you normally need 30 PTO horsepower so around 38 tractor horsepower which is what I have.
I did a video comparing the fixed mount to the articulating grinder.
And of course there are standalone stump grinders but I don’t have personal experience with those
Stump Grinder Showdown - Woodland Mills WG24 Vs Baumalight 3P24
th-cam.com/video/nPYOz53NXEo/w-d-xo.html
Awesome thank you very much!
Thank you
Aside from what Brock said already, Tim of Tractor Time With Tim has both a 1P24 and 3P24. The 1025/1023 can only do the fixed mount 1 series, and your neck will hurt after a while. The larger 2032/2038 can do both but won't shake you as much compared to the 1025. But I'd get the larger tractor just for the 3P24 since your neck won't hurt as bad.
Do you always leave the chips/mess at the customer location? Or do you have to take them away much?
I always leave them. I follow some Stump grinding groups and that’s what the majority of people do. Some people offer clean up at an additional cost but I’ve never had that request.
To me it makes sense to leave them to decompose in the hole unless you’re going to bring in topsoil to fill it in
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@@RockhillfarmYT Thanks! My dads grinder will arrive in a couple weeks after waiting months, the chips mess was the biggest concern.
What type of grinder is it?
@@RockhillfarmYT The quickest one he could get was the woodland mills one. The Baumalight one would have taken longer and they had no time frame known just that it would be a month or more longer at least and they were almost same price.
I think they make a good unit
You guys should have fun with it
Is this the 2p24 or 3p24? Do you have any thoughts on the size difference?
I have the 3P24. I don’t believe they have a 2p24
they do have a 1P24 Which is a fixed unit rather than the articulating version that I have
The 24 is the diameter of the cutting wheel
The first number either a 1 or a 3, basically represents how many ways you can move it. The 1p is fixed And you drive back-and-forth over the stump. The only other movement is raising and lowering the three-point
The 3p24 moves side to side and up and down as well as the three-point movement, And you park the tractor to operate the grinder
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have other questions
@@RockhillfarmYT Ahh yes. I got the numbers messed up. I was thinking of 3p24 vs 3p34.
The last two numbers are the diameter of the wheel so that 34 inch wheel probably requires quite a bit more horsepower to run
Minimum PTO horsepower for this unit is 30 which is what I have. You would have to check with the manufacturer but I’m betting you need already 40 pto hp to run the other one
Wouldn't a skid steer mulcher work better?
If you actually mean a mulcher, I would love to have one, but they are $20,000-30,000 and overkill for stumps that bringing 200 to $300 revenue
If you mean a stump grinder for the skid steer, I am thinking about that although one company told me it won’t have any more power than the one on my tractor does
What size tractor do yu have ? I have a 26 hp kubota
That’s a 38 horse tractor I’m using in the video
@@RockhillfarmYT OK thank yu
how much is that bauma grinder?
The one I have is $5700 I believe. The 1P24 unit I think it’s around $2500
I ordered it through the dealer I got my tractor from and financed it with another purchase
That’s a slow process for one of those tractor mounts. I run a Vermeer sc60tx. That would’ve taken about 10 minutes.
I’ve got probably 3000 hours stump grinding time
One of the biggest mistakes you’re making is trying to grind on top of the stump when you discussed the half moon shape you should never be doing that.
You start in below ground level and grind into the stump never grind down on top of the stump.
About 20 years ago I had one of those tractor mounted kind like that it is extremely hard on that tractor I have broken PTO shaft off inside the tractor before with them.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
a standalone commercial unit is much more efficient.
This unit cannot be used the way you’re describing because the surround on it bottoms out if you try to approach from straight behind
I do not like the Bauma Lights deflector nor do I like the price. The Landpride which is an Erskine has a much better deflector and uses Greenteeth, which are readily available as well
I can’t tell if your helper is Chip Wood or Stihl Johnson. Anyone else recognize that guy?
We may have to create a poll. Name that helper
How about Billy sawsalot
@@RockhillfarmYT I like it
@@RockhillfarmYT well what’s the helpers name? Asking for a friend. I’m not sure what lock n lube is but I could come up with several names for ole guy 🤔
I’m calling him Billy sawzalittle after today
I learned what not to do
Do you have experience with a tractor mount stump Grinder?
$400 or more…!🤔
You still think your charging enough money? I watched another one of your videos where you wrecked two chains on your saw. Plus you talked about the cost of replacing teeth when you hit rocks. Then you have the unexpected repair cost. Actually, they should be expected. Because they will happen. Don't forget the depreciation for every hour put on your tractor. The dealers will deduct big time on trade in value someday.
I initially started off under charging for everything. Part of that was not factoring in all the expenses. I also didn’t know how to estimate how long each job would take. I’ve been gradually increasing my prices ever since
I think my pricing is pretty good right now for our area. You do have to factor in cost of living in your area. it makes a big difference
There are only about three or four guys around me that I have seen offering tractor work and they are getting $65-$75 an hour.
I’m getting a lot more than that for stump grinding.
I figure $25 an hour for me, $40 an hour for the machine, and $10 an hour for consumables
I’m generally bidding the job based on that rate and how many hours I think it will take
What does tractor work go for in your area?