Only Joe Frazier can say “I am the only person who was the winner of the greatest sporting event of the 20th Century”. Impressively, Joe was an even better person than fighter”.
Ali got back up but got the crap beat out him for the rest of the round, ALi didnt land anything after he went down, but man what a lions heart and warrior courage Ali had!!!
This was the greatest sport event of all times. It's amazing How underrated Joe Frazier is to America. Hollywood Studios made 1 Million movies about boxing. Never made 1 about Frazier , or even about this fight. C'mon , the script is ready. The most expected fight Ever. They should make the movie through Frazier eyes , showing the nessecity he Had to Win to proof that he was a real champion. Not to make a vilain out of Ali, but Just to give Joe Frazier some credit. To me , Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier are the greatest fighters of the history of boxing. But Ali is cheered while Frazier is invisible to America... Maybe Someday some visionary Studio make a movie about that amazing fight and that amazing Champion named Joe Frazier 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
Ali's losses and seeing Foreman destroy both Frazier and Norton with so much quicker ease had taught him to be much better prepared for his rematches against both of them and Title Fight against Foreman.
Ali and Frazier were two great champions who'd rather die in the ring than have the other guy beat them. Their 3 fights were like hard fought wars where both of them went beyond the abilities of mere mortals and took punishment like nobody else could. Neither would give up. Joe Frazier pleading with Eddie Futch during the Thrilla in Manila to not stop the fight even though he couldn't see out of one eye, just sums their rivalry up for me. What champions! What a great rivalry!
A corner man bears great responsibility & accountability for his fighters health & wellbeing in the ring. The capacity to whether long term health consequences may arise, is part of his decision to stop a fight. Remember Ali was in no condition to continue also. So to be fair the fight in Manila proved how equal both men were in the ring & there trilogy proved one thing, that was that both men had to take it to another level of endurance, conditioning, strength, deterioration & courage to stand up to one another.
Both are huge in the sport and then George Foreman came in and that was the best era of heavyweight boxing that'll never happen again. The contenders were also top notch, Quarry, Bonavena, Shavers, Norton, Chuvalo, Lyle etc etc.
The 90’s weren’t bad either. Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis, Foreman, Moorer, Morrison, Mercer, Tua and I’m sure I’m forgetting a few. The 70’s and 90’s were the best decades for heavyweights without a doubt.
I was for Ali that night and was disappointed in the outcome, although I didn't argue with it. But in the ensuing years, I have come to respect Joe Frazier and understand him a little better, to the point where I am glad he won, because he deserved it. I always characterize this fight as Ali's ego against Joe Frazier's heart. I think Joe Frazier is the perfect picture of "the fighter's heart," you could take Joe Frazier's heart and put it into the chest of any top 10 fighter, and he would rise to the championship. And I think it's interesting to see Ali put the same psyche on a fighter that had worked on other fighters so many times, and instead of psyching out his opponent, it just made him fight all that much harder, made him even more determined to win. Yes, Ali won the two rematches, and you can't take away from Ali the fact that he fought his way all the way back, defeating George Foreman in Zaire, in a fight that EVERYBODY thought he would lose. But I am glad that Joe Frazier, ever after, could point to this fight, this night, when he put Ali on the deck and won. The reason Ali resented Joe Frazier and called him all those names, especially for the third fight, was that the night when ALL the cards were on the table, the night when Ali had the world watching like he had never had before and would never have again, on THAT night, Joe Frazier took it from him.
@@PackerBronco Yes, he made all sorts of statements like this, but never to Joe's face. Always without Joe present. I appreciate Ali's belated respect for Joe, but he could have met him privately and said these things, which he never did. Joe never had a personal apology.
Yeah Ali could never figure out the left hook throughout the fight and it's the reason he lost. I have Frazier winning the fight eight rounds to six and one even and an extra point for Frazier for the knockdown in round 15
Ali gave the first 4 rounds away by jacking about because he underestimated Joe that's why he lost ,the ref said if it wasn't for the knockdown he would have given it to Ali if he was scoring ,it was a still a great performance by Ali in only his 3rd fight in less than 6months after 3 1/2 years off
@@richardbranton7396 no, we're talking about the first Ali Frazier fight. IMO Ali may have won the first 4 rounds, he definitely didn't play in those rounds and hit Frazier with everything in the book, but Frazier came back. Ali was dumb for playing at all, this was a championship fight. IMO Ali at his best is the best heavyweight of all time, but he did Play too much, and he lost a few times because of it
@@youtoo2233 that's what I said isn't it?he didn't take Frazier Norton or Spinks seriously on the 1st fights ,didn't train as he should have ,the 2nd fights he was all business
Can you imagine if the boxing commissions and promoters had control of boxing back then? This fight would never take place cause never side would want to risk their meal ticket. We'd of had maybe the Thrilla in Manila and we'd all be wondering what IF? But it's all a part of history because that era demanded ONE CHAMPION Undisputed. And after Ali lost he had to fight another dozen times before he got another shot - Whereas today he could fight for a title each and every fight. That's why boxing isn't significant in all elements of today's culture, it was pimped out and congress did nothing to stop it like they did with every other sport. Back then even a thug like Sonny Liston was revered and bowed to cause he was the "CHAMP'.
man I feel for Joe wen Ali said those things bout him but it brought out the best of joe by showing that Ali trash talking couldn't rattle his brain and dominate him and wen he lands that left hook he triumphs over Alis taunting COS JOE HAD A HEART OF A CHAMP and made Ali eat his words rip Ali and Frazier legends in and out of the ring
It was going to have to happen one way or another. Ali couldn't avoid it plus he couldn't control his destiny. If it wasn't for Frazier he wouldn't have any opportunity getting back in the ring. All the trash talking about Frazier but Ali owed Frazier a great deal of thanks for giving him a second opportunity back boxing. If he didn't lose to Frazier he was still eventually going to lose to Norton or Foreman. Because of his losses to Frazier and Norton he came much better prepared and serious what to except from guys like Foreman after seeing Foreman destroy Frazier and Norton with so much more ease than Ali had against both guys.
Joe Frazier was to much MAN for Ali that night 8 march 1971 , all the insults backfired on Ali , Frazier was way to tough that night!! , deep respect 4 these 2 WARRIORS!! but Joe was the true "heluva Fighter " that night!!
On the same year in India Maharashtra the wrestling match was played by Maruti mane and visnupant savardekar which was played for almost 2:30 hours 1:30 hours more than Ali and Frazier match. Salute to the two masculine wrestlers who not got glory or fame like Ali and Frazier. Jai hind Jai Maharashtra
I was a few months short of my 10th bday when this fight went down and EVERYBODY in my Harlem neighborhood took sides …I went with Frazier because, at the time, Ali reminded me too much of some of the arrogant loud mouthed kids I was growing up around.
I admit like Ali, that Joe was very angry & determined to win that night by all means necessary. Frazier won the fight that night, but man Ali won the big picture, the WAR!! Ali is the best/greatest at studying his opponents for revenge. No one else EVER did that! This is why & what makes him the GREATEST in my opinion! FRAZIER thought this same style against Ali would win the other fights with Ali. He was wrong & never would admit to Ali or the world he lost fights II & III.
And yes, Ali did admit to the WORLD, that he lost to FRAZIER their 1st fight. Ali was more into flashyness than into physical shape due to cockiness, arrogant, & under estimating Joe's hitting power! Again, Ali's greatness is his ability to find his opponents strengths and weaknesses then use that against them!!
Ali may be the greatest for beating forman but his second fight with Frazier Ali clinch 133 times and in the third Frazier came into the ring one eye blind and with the overall war Frazier I think won cos unfortunately Ali got Parkinson due to predominantly Frazier fights but Frazier more than happy with his name one win against Ali and his neck and neck battles 2 3 fight cos he put on a great show
@@5star64Just take a look at pictures of Ali and Frazier after all the fights. You can see on their faces which guy had taken the most punches - and it wasn't close ! I am a big fan of both these great guys.
If not for Joe Frazier, Ali would not come back in Boxing. Joe talked to Richard Nixon to supports Muhammad Ali's comeback in Boxing, Joe gave Ali money to support Ali's family when Ali's was on a halt.
Love both these fighters. I scored Ali as winning more rounds, but think it was right Frazier got the nod because of the last 5 rounds. It just wouldn't have looked right if it had been given to Ali. But the judge who gave Ali 4 rounds. Was his guide dog scoring for him?
@@KD400_ Ridiculous Frazier vs Ali one was 15 hard fought rounds for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. Two unbeaten champions. The hype was far greater for the Ali Frazier fight. After one hard fought round the Hagler Hearns fight was one sided in rounds two and three. A major heavyweight championship fight always trumps even the biggest fights in the lower weight classes. AndMuhammad Ali was the most famous and popular fighter of all time. And he was coming back after a three and a half year layoff.
Ridiculous Frazier and Ali fought 15 hard exhausting rounds of back and for fighting. Hagler and Hearns had one competitive round. Hagler dominated round 2 and knocked out Hearns in the 3rd. The Ali Frazier fight was a far better and more competitive fight.
I wanna point out that I'm Frazier wasn't pro even if ppl chose to adopt him as that figure cos he was Ali opponent he was just as much anti war appealing for Ali right not to go to vietnam
Exactly! And it's funny how in this doc - that point was only made (or hinted at) by Ali's children. Frazier was anti-war as well and being married with children made him ineligible to be drafted.
They would never make a movie about Joe and this fight!!! We are lucky we got the HBO Documentary and now this and its only because of Mark Krams book, Ghosts of Manilla. Before that book Joe was a footnote in ALis biographies and movies. The Left Wing media complex never forgave Joe for winning in MSG that night. The hype of the fight was taken too seriously by people who knew better yet they punished Joe and put joe in the position of being pro Vietnam and Ali the anti Vietnam war along with all the religious racial attacks Ali was going after Joe with. Joe made the sin of winning the fight which was all he really cared about. Joes personal dislike at the time was not even known for years what Ali had done to him privately. It wasnt until Krams book exposed all that and Joe then got recognition back to some degree for the true warrior he really was. ALi and Joe were great warriors and should both be respected for all their fights not just the last 2 because ALi won them. This one was the biggest by far, Manilla was a war but had no where near the cultural impact and interest the first one had.Not even close.
Joe's whole life and the obstacles he hurdled are better than most fictional movies. If I could, I'd have the movie start of with, I think it was his uncle, telling Joe at a young age that he would be the next Joe Louis.
He was stripped of his title because of his refusal to be drafted not his religious beliefs ... Everybody has religious his religious beliefs don't apply in the ring but they do in the jungle
It was a great fight but Burt Lancaster was all for Joe and the scoring was definitely biased but Joe won but it was really close if they had concubox numbers ali definitely landed more punches
If Frazier fought the sixties Ali, he never would have touched him....in this fight, Ali's hands were still fast, but his legs had slowed....and let's not forget that when Joe hit him with that monstrous left hook in the 15th round, Ali got up at 3 and was still throwing punches at the end.....also, Joe spent a week in the hospital....Ali had only two tune up fights prior to this fight.... He was out for three years......it was a glorious loss in the greatest sporting event in history...
@@lordburlap4514 My point is that the Ali of the 1960's got tagged . Those idiots that say Joe Frazier couldn't have touched him are ridiculous. A fight between pre 1970 Ali and Frazier would have no different from what we saw. Chuvalo landed some hard right hands to Ali's head in that fight. Chuvalo was a plodder and a stalker. Frazier applied non stop pressure. Ali never danced for 15 rounds. That's a myth.
The fight that showed the real size of Cassius Clay. Frazier was second to none. I'm glad he won. I was a fan of Clay but after that fight I was disenfranchised.
And the reality of this epic ali frazier first fight ,was joe frazier beat the stuffings out of muhammad ali ,with one of the most vicious punches that landed straight in his jaw, in round 15 flooring him and after the fight, alis jaw was swollen,worse than a big balloon
did u see Ali face his jaw swell to a balloon Frazier won this fight and yeh went on to lose the two other even though it was neck and neck but Frazier never lost in spirit
Your documentaty failed to mention that Ali (incredibly and pathetically) said he won the fight. He called the decison a "white man's" decision! Nice huh!
Taking nothing away from Joe Ali's forced exiles won him that fight and it was still very close but ali wasn't the same look at his body before he was stripped much more definition he lost his most precious gift his legs thats what separated all from the rest in the sixties he couldn't be hit then im just saying facts
On the same year in India Maharashtra the wrestling match was played by Maruti mane and visnupant savardekar which was played for almost 2:30 hours 1:30 hours more than Ali and Frazier match. Salute to the two masculine wrestlers who not got glory or fame like Ali and Frazier. Jai hind Jai Maharashtra
Only Joe Frazier can say “I am the only person who was the winner of the greatest sporting event of the 20th Century”. Impressively, Joe was an even better person than fighter”.
100%
Ali may be the greatest but Frazier my fav fighter of all time
Frazier's left hook is the 15th round is one of the great punches in HW history.
And Ali got right up. Damn.
Yeah, that sounded great!
Ali got back up but got the crap beat out him for the rest of the round, ALi didnt land anything after he went down, but man what a lions heart and warrior courage Ali had!!!
This was the greatest sport event of all times. It's amazing How underrated Joe Frazier is to America. Hollywood Studios made 1 Million movies about boxing. Never made 1 about Frazier , or even about this fight. C'mon , the script is ready. The most expected fight Ever. They should make the movie through Frazier eyes , showing the nessecity he Had to Win to proof that he was a real champion. Not to make a vilain out of Ali, but Just to give Joe Frazier some credit.
To me , Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier are the greatest fighters of the history of boxing. But Ali is cheered while Frazier is invisible to America... Maybe Someday some visionary Studio make a movie about that amazing fight and that amazing Champion named Joe Frazier 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
I've been waiting for a movie like that for so long. Joe's life was actually really crazy. Him winning gold at the Olympics is such a great story too.
That's actually a good idea. Show Joe's view of things
Id be more interested about foreman
The movie American Gangster (Denzel Washington and Russel Crowe) showed bits of the Frazier/Ali fight
I’m on it
Ali's losses and seeing Foreman destroy both Frazier and Norton with so much quicker ease had taught him to be much better prepared for his rematches against both of them and Title Fight against Foreman.
Great, fantastic and immortal Joe Frazier!!! Respect forever!!!
Ali and Frazier were two great champions who'd rather die in the ring than have the other guy beat them. Their 3 fights were like hard fought wars where both of them went beyond the abilities of mere mortals and took punishment like nobody else could. Neither would give up. Joe Frazier pleading with Eddie Futch during the Thrilla in Manila to not stop the fight even though he couldn't see out of one eye, just sums their rivalry up for me. What champions! What a great rivalry!
A corner man bears great responsibility & accountability for his fighters health & wellbeing in the ring. The capacity to whether long term health consequences may arise, is part of his decision to stop a fight. Remember Ali was in no condition to continue also. So to be fair the fight in Manila proved how equal both men were in the ring & there trilogy proved one thing, that was that both men had to take it to another level of endurance, conditioning, strength, deterioration & courage to stand up to one another.
Thank you
You will never be forgotten.
Two Warrior's that brought the best out of each other. God bless both of their Soul's.
Crazy 8's
Love hearing Mike Tyson talk about Frazier
Smokin' Joe will ALWAYS be champion in my book!!!
Me too my fav.
Tv
Set gy gy chip f
8. Cryx0 fyi":g:hu
U
J
Out ju f
Yt? c fyi t ti 5
Yt? 7 yt? 0nn..ftt&
he earned it
Nice to hear all those other great fighters, speak of Ali with so much love and respect.
And Joe Frazier 🥊💨
Both are huge in the sport and then George Foreman came in and that was the best era of heavyweight boxing that'll never happen again. The contenders were also top notch, Quarry, Bonavena, Shavers, Norton, Chuvalo, Lyle etc etc.
The 90’s weren’t bad either. Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis, Foreman, Moorer, Morrison, Mercer, Tua and I’m sure I’m forgetting a few. The 70’s and 90’s were the best decades for heavyweights without a doubt.
Heat seeking missile of a left hook.
RIP Smokin Joe
I was for Ali that night and was disappointed in the outcome, although I didn't argue with it. But in the ensuing years, I have come to respect Joe Frazier and understand him a little better, to the point where I am glad he won, because he deserved it. I always characterize this fight as Ali's ego against Joe Frazier's heart. I think Joe Frazier is the perfect picture of "the fighter's heart," you could take Joe Frazier's heart and put it into the chest of any top 10 fighter, and he would rise to the championship. And I think it's interesting to see Ali put the same psyche on a fighter that had worked on other fighters so many times, and instead of psyching out his opponent, it just made him fight all that much harder, made him even more determined to win. Yes, Ali won the two rematches, and you can't take away from Ali the fact that he fought his way all the way back, defeating George Foreman in Zaire, in a fight that EVERYBODY thought he would lose. But I am glad that Joe Frazier, ever after, could point to this fight, this night, when he put Ali on the deck and won. The reason Ali resented Joe Frazier and called him all those names, especially for the third fight, was that the night when ALL the cards were on the table, the night when Ali had the world watching like he had never had before and would never have again, on THAT night, Joe Frazier took it from him.
Please recall Ali was forced out of the ring for 3.5 years, in his prime, before he fought Frazier.
“If God ever called me to a holy war, I want Joe Frazier fighting beside me.” - Muhammad Ali
@@PackerBronco Yes, he made all sorts of statements like this, but never to Joe's face. Always without Joe present. I appreciate Ali's belated respect for Joe, but he could have met him privately and said these things, which he never did. Joe never had a personal apology.
@@sendtosw closest thing was Ali apologizing to marvis frazier, which again, wasn't good enough in my opinion
Please do more great job
great vid
Two Warriors ,rip Champs!
Yes, RIP champs!
Thank you both Men for being real Men!
The Renaissance Era of Boxing...We will NEVER have it again!
We did with Floyd Mayweather vs PAC man
Possibly the best tribute to the FOTC I've seen
RIP Champs for giving us the greatest rivalry in sports history
🥊🙏💐
The Thrilla in Manila was the greatest fight in history!
Joe Frazier won this fight well, although he also took a lot of hard blows, but he won it very well.
Yeah Ali could never figure out the left hook throughout the fight and it's the reason he lost. I have Frazier winning the fight eight rounds to six and one even and an extra point for Frazier for the knockdown in round 15
Ali gave the first 4 rounds away by jacking about because he underestimated Joe that's why he lost ,the ref said if it wasn't for the knockdown he would have given it to Ali if he was scoring ,it was a still a great performance by Ali in only his 3rd fight in less than 6months after 3 1/2 years off
@@richardbranton7396 no, we're talking about the first Ali Frazier fight. IMO Ali may have won the first 4 rounds, he definitely didn't play in those rounds and hit Frazier with everything in the book, but Frazier came back. Ali was dumb for playing at all, this was a championship fight. IMO Ali at his best is the best heavyweight of all time, but he did Play too much, and he lost a few times because of it
@@youtoo2233 that's what I said isn't it?he didn't take Frazier Norton or Spinks seriously on the 1st fights ,didn't train as he should have ,the 2nd fights he was all business
@@richardbranton7396 and yet many people still think he lost those second fights too
What is the name of that slamming song @ the 2:32 mark of this video?
Want that song on my phone.
Ali would be a rapper if he was alive and young today lol he was nice with it
Can you imagine if the boxing commissions and promoters had control of boxing back then? This fight would never take place cause never side would want to risk their meal ticket. We'd of had maybe the Thrilla in Manila and we'd all be wondering what IF? But it's all a part of history because that era demanded ONE CHAMPION Undisputed.
And after Ali lost he had to fight another dozen times before he got another shot - Whereas today he could fight for a title each and every fight. That's why boxing isn't significant in all elements of today's culture, it was pimped out and congress did nothing to stop it like they did with every other sport. Back then even a thug like Sonny Liston was revered and bowed to cause he was the "CHAMP'.
He's not the only former heavyweight champion 'Thug' to be revered.
man I feel for Joe wen Ali said those things bout him but it brought out the best of joe by showing that Ali trash talking couldn't rattle his brain and dominate him and wen he lands that left hook he triumphs over Alis taunting COS JOE HAD A HEART OF A CHAMP and made Ali eat his words rip Ali and Frazier legends in and out of the ring
Ali had only 2 fights in the past 4 years, he took this fight way too soon, needed to get himself back into 1967 condition.
It was going to have to happen one way or another. Ali couldn't avoid it plus he couldn't control his destiny. If it wasn't for Frazier he wouldn't have any opportunity getting back in the ring. All the trash talking about Frazier but Ali owed Frazier a great deal of thanks for giving him a second opportunity back boxing. If he didn't lose to Frazier he was still eventually going to lose to Norton or Foreman. Because of his losses to Frazier and Norton he came much better prepared and serious what to except from guys like Foreman after seeing Foreman destroy Frazier and Norton with so much more ease than Ali had against both guys.
@@BBQFanNo1 imagine if Foreman had won the Ali and Young fights and didn't leave boxing for those ten years and won all fights, he'd be the goat!
Joe Frazier was to much MAN for Ali that night 8 march 1971 , all the insults backfired on Ali , Frazier was way to tough that night!! , deep respect 4 these 2 WARRIORS!! but Joe was the true "heluva Fighter " that night!!
On the same year in India Maharashtra the wrestling match was played by Maruti mane and visnupant savardekar which was played for almost 2:30 hours 1:30 hours more than Ali and Frazier match. Salute to the two masculine wrestlers who not got glory or fame like Ali and Frazier.
Jai hind Jai Maharashtra
Legend ALI
Ali should have had a few more fights before this one
I was a few months short of my 10th bday when this fight went down and EVERYBODY in my Harlem neighborhood took sides …I went with Frazier because, at the time, Ali reminded me too much of some of the arrogant loud mouthed kids I was growing up around.
Imagine today, social media would be goin crazy
I admit like Ali, that Joe was very angry & determined to win that night by all means necessary. Frazier won the fight that night, but man Ali won the big picture, the WAR!! Ali is the best/greatest at studying his opponents for revenge. No one else EVER did that! This is why & what makes him the GREATEST in my opinion! FRAZIER thought this same style against Ali would win the other fights with Ali. He was wrong & never would admit to Ali or the world he lost fights II & III.
And yes, Ali did admit to the WORLD, that he lost to FRAZIER their 1st fight. Ali was more into flashyness than into physical shape due to cockiness, arrogant, & under estimating Joe's hitting power! Again, Ali's greatness is his ability to find his opponents strengths and weaknesses then use that against them!!
Ali may be the greatest for beating forman but his second fight with Frazier Ali clinch 133 times and in the third Frazier came into the ring one eye blind and with the overall war Frazier I think won cos unfortunately Ali got Parkinson due to predominantly Frazier fights but Frazier more than happy with his name one win against Ali and his neck and neck battles 2 3 fight cos he put on a great show
Ali won the 2nd and 3rd fights with an incredible amount of holding and clinching.
@@5star64 Frazier took a so many punches to the head in those fights incredible he even made it .a hard man for sure
@@5star64Just take a look at pictures of Ali and Frazier after all the fights.
You can see on their faces which guy had taken the most punches - and it wasn't close !
I am a big fan of both these great guys.
If not for Joe Frazier, Ali would not come back in Boxing. Joe talked to Richard Nixon to supports Muhammad Ali's comeback in Boxing, Joe gave Ali money to support Ali's family when Ali's was on a halt.
Larger than life kid!
Ali is a grown man he should have apologized to Ali than, for calling him a kid!
JOE THE BULL ALI THE KANGURO BE CONFINED IN THE RED
The Best fight of all time was Ali vs Foreman
Love both these fighters. I scored Ali as winning more rounds, but think it was right Frazier got the nod because of the last 5 rounds. It just wouldn't have looked right if it had been given to Ali.
But the judge who gave Ali 4 rounds. Was his guide dog scoring for him?
Liam Neeson narrator? Hehe
Now I see 😮
Frazer tangled un bluuuuus
Ali - Frazier was the greatest event/fight of the 1970s but 14 years later would come a far better one in VEGAS!
What event was that?
@@5star64 hagler hearns maybe
@@KD400_ Ridiculous Frazier vs Ali one was 15 hard fought rounds for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. Two unbeaten champions. The hype was far greater for the Ali Frazier fight. After one hard fought round the Hagler Hearns fight was one sided in rounds two and three. A major heavyweight championship fight always trumps even the biggest fights in the lower weight classes. AndMuhammad Ali was the most famous and popular fighter of all time. And he was coming back after a three and a half year layoff.
Markeith k. Yes I agree with u. I was just speculating what mark dunham meant
Ridiculous Frazier and Ali fought 15 hard exhausting rounds of back and for fighting. Hagler and Hearns had one competitive round. Hagler dominated round 2 and knocked out Hearns in the 3rd. The Ali Frazier fight was a far better and more competitive fight.
I wanna point out that I'm Frazier wasn't pro even if ppl chose to adopt him as that figure cos he was Ali opponent he was just as much anti war appealing for Ali right not to go to vietnam
Exactly! And it's funny how in this doc - that point was only made (or hinted at) by Ali's children. Frazier was anti-war as well and being married with children made him ineligible to be drafted.
Frazier only won one fight but it was the biggest in sports history Ali/Frazier (1)
They would never make a movie about Joe and this fight!!! We are lucky we got the HBO Documentary and now this and its only because of Mark Krams book, Ghosts of Manilla. Before that book Joe was a footnote in ALis biographies and movies. The Left Wing media complex never forgave Joe for winning in MSG that night. The hype of the fight was taken too seriously by people who knew better yet they punished Joe and put joe in the position of being pro Vietnam and Ali the anti Vietnam war along with all the religious racial attacks Ali was going after Joe with. Joe made the sin of winning the fight which was all he really cared about. Joes personal dislike at the time was not even known for years what Ali had done to him privately. It wasnt until Krams book exposed all that and Joe then got recognition back to some degree for the true warrior he really was. ALi and Joe were great warriors and should both be respected for all their fights not just the last 2 because ALi won them. This one was the biggest by far, Manilla was a war but had no where near the cultural impact and interest the first one had.Not even close.
Joe's whole life and the obstacles he hurdled are better than most fictional movies. If I could, I'd have the movie start of with, I think it was his uncle, telling Joe at a young age that he would be the next Joe Louis.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
3:00 Ali was autistic?
Faceless Tuna artistic, the fuck were u hearing lol
He was stripped of his title because of his refusal to be drafted not his religious beliefs ... Everybody has religious his religious beliefs don't apply in the ring but they do in the jungle
There are people on here trying to say Ali won this fight. Sorry but no he didn’t but it was a great fight! Deserving of Fight of the Century!
It was a great fight but Burt Lancaster was all for Joe and the scoring was definitely biased but Joe won but it was really close if they had concubox numbers ali definitely landed more punches
Ali won the fight no question
Lol come on now Joe had Ali sttumbling all over place.
If Frazier fought the sixties Ali, he never would have touched him....in this fight, Ali's hands were still fast, but his legs had slowed....and let's not forget that when Joe hit him with that monstrous left hook in the 15th round, Ali got up at 3 and was still throwing punches at the end.....also, Joe spent a week in the hospital....Ali had only two tune up fights prior to this fight.... He was out for three years......it was a glorious loss in the greatest sporting event in history...
Frazier had to stay in hospital for 1 whole month after the fight.
Just give joe his credit, this is the problem with you guys
George Chuvalo hit Ali with plenty of punches in there March 29 1966 heavyweight championship fight.
markeith k....So what?....What is your point?....Ali won just about every round....Chuvalo hit him with body punches...many of which he let him...
@@lordburlap4514 My point is that the Ali of the 1960's got tagged . Those idiots that say Joe Frazier couldn't have touched him are ridiculous. A fight between pre 1970 Ali and Frazier would have no different from what we saw. Chuvalo landed some hard right hands to Ali's head in that fight. Chuvalo was a plodder and a stalker. Frazier applied non stop pressure. Ali never danced for 15 rounds. That's a myth.
The fight that showed the real size of Cassius Clay. Frazier was second to none. I'm glad he won. I was a fan of Clay but after that fight I was disenfranchised.
I think the next 2 showed the real size of both and certainly of Ali to lose and come back is a true sign of a warriors heart
His name was Muhammad Ali.
And the reality of this epic ali frazier first fight ,was joe frazier beat the stuffings out of muhammad ali ,with one of the most vicious punches that landed straight in his jaw, in round 15 flooring him and after the fight, alis jaw was swollen,worse than a big balloon
Tony Cento Who gives a shit Ali got up like a fucking man plus frazier went to the hospital for a month
Frazier went for high blood pressure Ali had a swollen jaw
Frazier went cos he had high blood pressure its confirm by a doctor
did u see Ali face his jaw swell to a balloon Frazier won this fight and yeh went on to lose the two other even though it was neck and neck but Frazier never lost in spirit
not just a month but under intensive care, he was pissing blood, very close to death
Your documentaty failed to mention that Ali (incredibly and pathetically) said he won the fight. He called the decison a "white man's" decision! Nice huh!
Rocky Marciano vs Ali would have gone very much the same way apart from Ali would have not got up.
Rocky fish dude Ali would of smashed Rocky
That Ali? Possibly but Ali was vulnerable to left hooks. Marciano’s signature shot was the right hand. Prime Ali? Dances circles around both.
Prime Ali would have run circles around Marciano and cut him apart in the process.
Ali needed cus as his trainer upon his 2nd coming
Ali would have stop Marciano on cuts in five rounds.
Taking nothing away from Joe Ali's forced exiles won him that fight and it was still very close but ali wasn't the same look at his body before he was stripped much more definition he lost his most precious gift his legs thats what separated all from the rest in the sixties he couldn't be hit then im just saying facts
Your right Fraizer would have lost if this fight took place 3 years earlier.
And it would have been close at all
Most of these commentaries are garbage … most people weren’t interested in politics, just boxing …
Ali won this fight
On the same year in India Maharashtra the wrestling match was played by Maruti mane and visnupant savardekar which was played for almost 2:30 hours 1:30 hours more than Ali and Frazier match. Salute to the two masculine wrestlers who not got glory or fame like Ali and Frazier.
Jai hind Jai Maharashtra