Aeros Loop Studio and BeatBuddy Walkthrough: Integrating Your Pedals
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2024
- In this Aeros Loop Studio and BeatBuddy Walkthrough, we give you a detailed tutorial of the two's integration when the BeatBuddy drum machine is used as master and Aeros looping pedal as slave. We cover everything from settings you may want to change to how the two work together in the Aeros' 6x6 and 2x2 modes.
0:00 Introduction
0:24 Overview of settings
1:24 Stop setting
1:45 Next part setting
2:15 Demo
3:23 6x6 mode integration demo
5:40 Conclusion
The Aeros and BeatBuddy used together result in a killer live looping combo for songwriting, generating new musical ideas, and acting as a sweet accompaniment for live shows.
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I'm excited to receive this looper. I've been waiting a long time for a product like this.
Your music in this demo is so awesome! I really like this Aeros+Beat Buddy setup! Considering purchasing. I’m impressed with your attention to customer support. Cheers!
Thanks for the kind words! Make sure to check out our website here: singularsound.com/product/aeros-loop-studio/
Thank you.
Just got an Aeros and hooked it up to my BB.
This really helps.
Awesome! Keep us in the loop :)
OMG this thing has some beautiful audio playback!!!
powerful no doubt, this moving in the right direction...
Thanks for the comment! :)
Looks awesome! Amazing integration, now just ship the damn thing already! 😁 Haha! Waiting (im)patiently... I'm really excited about the possibilities. Great product Singular Sound!
Thanks for the comment! ;)
@@SingularSoundOfficial I had mine in 2 days. Not kidding. I clicked the mouse and as I turned away from the desktop the mailman smacked me right in the face with it.
@@frankardos4211 that's great news! Welcome to the SS family!
@@SingularSoundOfficial Yea "Buddy" ha ha....love that thing man......best friend in the whole wide........ahem......jam room..........!!!
Having issues already guys. I'm sorry. Theres a song already loaded in this unit that I can't get rid of???
Thank you!
Wicked music man, hats off
Thanks for the comment, Rafa!
Excellent
can volume/pan be controlled via midi CC?
I’ve been waiting for a singular sound looper and it’s finally here. I’m just wondering what is the best amp/speaker set up when using the looper and beat buddy?
A full range speaker or amp would work great.
@@SingularSoundOfficial Hey gang,....I am using an FRFR myself. All good. Is any line level such as the "emulated line out" from my amp ok for either main or aux input? It seems ok so far. I have more to ask but will head over to the site. Thx so much for everything.
@@frankardos4211 Yes! the line level is fine
Hi
I use a Laney AH 300 its a multi channel all purpose amplifier.
When using the BeatBuddy with the Aeros is it necessary to use one of the 1/4" inputs to record the drums? This would leave only one input for an instrument/mic. Thanks.
Hi Richard, thanks for the comment. In this video we show both pedals synced via MIDI (BB master clock & ALS as the slave). This way you'll have full control of the drums (fills, transitions, tap tempo etc) without messing up your loops. Check out this video demonstrating both pedals. th-cam.com/video/6_1-bAGq4DU/w-d-xo.html
I got a beat buddy with a voicelive 3 but the looper leaves me wanting and the guitar processing is not the greatest but great for vox's so I run through Helix Rack which has tons of midi control options if I get the aeros could I make everything sync together? And what advantages do I have compared to the looper board? Wanting to do the one man band thing.
Hi Fabian, thanks for the comment. The ALS was the ability to behave as the Master Clock and/or the slave. I this video, we demonstrate the BB as the MIDI Master Clock so you can freely change the BPM value and everything else (ALS & Helix rack) will be synced together. Additionally, the ALS has 6 parallel tracks vs LB has only 4 and ALS records in 24bit vs LB in 16bit. Lastly, the ALS has the ability to have free mixing and is much more compact vs LB is a huge monster. Make sure to check out the full manual here: singularsound.com/start/
What is the best way to connect BeatBuddy and Aeros Looper if I also want to route BeatBuddy's audio through Aeros? And does Aeros work also as USB audio interface and USB MIDI inferface?
Hi Milos, the best way to connect both pedal is via MIDI (BB Master Clock) demonstrated in this video. This way you will have separate audio source (BeatBuddy & Aeros) independently from each other and total control of both pedals. The Aeros does not work as an interface but you can export all the audio files into your computer for post production. Feel free to reach out at support@singularsound.com for any further questions.
Is it possible to add mp3 samples into the looper ? E.g. if I wanted to use some movie dialogue as a sample on my tune and have it loaded onto one of the pedals ? Many thanks
We are currently building a backing track function into the Aeros - it should be ready within a month or so. However, currently we are only supporting WAV files. You can also sample/record any signal into the looper (Mp3 player or iPod) audio using a 1/4 inch cable. Feel free to reach out to us at support@singularsound.com.
Hi Anthony love your explanation I know it's in work in progress for you guys but please please please can singular sound make a update where we can creat set list to coinside with BB. My suggestion is just add a mode where currently you have a function where we have option of saving into SD card or internal storage. Just need to add one more option where we can store the song in a set list and by checking and in checking the box we can add and remove the songs from set list.
Thank you for your help
Hi Karissa, thanks for the comment. Yes! We're aware this could be a great feature to add to the Aeros and we're hoping to add it in a future firmware update. Join us our forum where you can connect with the community and find out more about our future features: forum.singularsound.com/
Can I plug my Electric drums into this and also a electric guitar and record both?
Yes you can! You can record multiple instruments using the main and aux inputs.
What is the storage capacity of the Aeros? Can it be used to play back backing tracks? How easy to move loops from the Aeros and are they wave files?
The Aeros has the ability to record up to 3 hours mono, 1.5 hours stereo recording time using internal storage and up to 48 hours storage when using an SD card. You can easily export files into your computer and vice versa. Feel free to email us at support@singularsound.com for any further questions.
No way looks amazing! Can you just stomp in and stomp out or is the initial looping bound to a tempo/metronome?
There is a Metronome build in into the unit
@@SingularSoundOfficial thanks sorry maybe my question was wrong but I got an answer on another video, freeform mode is what I want which is coming soon :)
I seem to have a song already loaded in the Aeros called "song4" I don't know what it is and can't delete it? When I push the home icon and then try to go to the songs page it shows this song but I can't get rid of it or "unload" it? Sorry to bug you guys
Wait!!!!!! I'm gettin somewher!!!! Wow!!!! I goofed thats all. I'll check back!! It's sounding AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm interested in using my beatbuddy and footswitch combo with the aeros loop studio for live performances. Any info on exactly how to set this equipment up would be greatly appreciated.
Hey Joe, please reach out to our customer support team to give you a detailed list of ways you can set these pedals up at support@singularsound.com. Thank you!
Looking to get me a looper but its been in between this and the Blackbox.
Check out this incredible video review by Ricky Tinez: th-cam.com/video/KnJubTSYkMI/w-d-xo.html
I don't have midi output sound from BB. I see the signal going in. Do I have to also connect the Aeros midi out to the BB? Help again! As usual
You need to connect the BB "MIDI out" (using the Y MIDI adapter) to "MIDI In" on the Aeros. Please feel free to email us at support@singularsound.com so we can help you properly.
@@SingularSoundOfficial I surely will guys and I know i get a little excited with this stuff, but I really dig this unit! I know together we WILL sort it all out. Thanks a million. You guys are top notch all the way. Bless you!
I received my aeros a few days ago and I have been playing around with it along with my beatbuddy. I love it so far. It is by far the most advanced and capable looper I have used. However, there are a few things that I have not been able to figure out yet. The most important of which is when using beatbuddy as master, it's still possible to stop all loops at once on aeros, but it does not stay synced with beatbuddy when restarting the loops while the beatbuddy is still playing. Is there a setting I can tweak to make it so that the loops restart at the beginning of the next measure (ideal) or at least be quantized to the beat? If not, it would be nice to be able to assign "mute all" function to start/stop switch when using beatbuddy as master, so that I can easily turn off all the loops while still keeping the beat on.
A single tap will stop it at the end of the measure, a double tap will stop it immediately. The syncing issue and other feature enhancements are constantly being addressed with updates.
@@rickthestick8 Yes, I am aware of those features. My question was regarding restarting the loops in-sync with beatbuddy when only the loops are stopped temporarily while the beat continues to play. If this feature is not available as of right now, I hope it can be added via firmware update in the future as it opens up so much more possibilities. Keep up the great work!
@@shot87 thanks for the comment and so happy to hear you loving the Aeros. :) We're implementing the Aeros to restart at the beginning of the measure and we hope to have the update in the next 2 weeks. Feel free to reach out to us at support@singularsound.com at any time.
@@SingularSoundOfficial That is a fantastic news. I have been a fan of you guys since you first announced beatbuddy (I was an early backer). I know I can count on you guys to deliver the goods and it's part of the reason I had zero hesitation in pre-ordering aeros. Keep up the great work!
@@shot87 thanks for the comment and we'll keep you posted.
Here's a good one for you (whomever may be watching) Is the "in" on the midi breakout Y cable plugged into the IN on the Aeros etc.....? I know I know. lol
Yes! the BB will send the MIDI signal (MIDI out) using the Y cable (MIDI adapter) into the "MIDI IN" on the Aeros. Feel free to reach out to anytime at support@singularsound.com
@@SingularSoundOfficial Thank you so much guys! There was an issue I'm remembering from another piece of gear where the routing had to be in/out according to the CABLE and not the logical flow like as with a pedalboard etc...I thank you again SS.
I want to purchase the Aeros but it has such a bad review at sweetwater...are there serious problems like the review says? Any positive reviews?
Hi, I have ordered the Aeros and am excited that it will be here soon (in faraway Australia). An obvious question but i havent seen it asked yet...Let’s assume I have a part or two on the Aeros ready to go. Let’s say it is a bass part and I have called the song with the bass part “Fred” on the Aeros. As the BB is the master, if I name that track on the BB (“Fred”) will it call up “Fred” on the Aeros? In practical terms I want to make up my set list on the BB and it will automatically find the correct song on the Aeros…
Hi Michael, we have not yet built MIDI ID to call up songs on the Aeros yet, but it is on the development timeline.
@@SingularSoundOfficial cheers, ill look forward to it.
What cable will I need if I bought the midi footswitch as well?
Hey there you will need a total of 3 cables to connect all three pedals together: 2 standard male to male MIDI 5 pin cables, and one MIDI breakout cable (singularsound.com/product/midi-sync-cable/)
You connect the small female MIDI end of the breakout cable to the BeatBuddy's MIDI port, then you connect the MIDI Maestro MIDI OUT to the IN port on the Breakout cable. Then connect the Aeros MIDI IN to the OUT port on the breakout cable!
@@SingularSoundOfficial Hey thanks for the reply. I finally watched the other tutorial, saw what I needed and bought them, thanks! Still getting everything hooked up, cant wait to get everything rolling!
Hey can I have different timing signatures in different parts? Also can I autopilot to play the whole song parts in sequence?
You can have any time signature in multiple song parts using the free-form mode. You will have to manually change the song parts but you can select "end of loop" which would be easier while changing song parts while playing.
Hi! Very interesting functions. It´s very similar to what you can do now with the BB+Infinity Looper (from Pigtronix), except that with Aeros now you have 6 tracks to choose in any order, while with the Infinity Looper you only have 2 tracks. The only issue with the 6 track with Aeros Looper + Beatbuddy is that a a higer number of drum parts (lets say +3) can not (please let me know if I am wrong with this) be set "on the fly" just like the Aeros does with its 6 tracks. The "on the fly" is a real need here for the musician/player. Here I have my guess: maybe using this two devices (Aeros Looper + Beatbuddy) along with the Midi Maestro (another Singular Sound product) can help to do this? Is there any other way less expensive than buying another device to do this? I was wondering about the Beatbuddy being slave of Aeros Looper. Would that help? Rock on.
The Aeros has many more advantages over the Infinity and all other loopers, such as visual feedback, the capability of parallel and sequential loops at the same time, WIFI updates, hands free live mixing with the volume wheel...
Yes, you can use the Aeros to control the BB, and it will make the BB go to different song parts to follow the Aeros (if there are enough song parts in the BB song). However, using the BB as slave will prevent you from changing song parts on the Aeros while keeping the same drum part. Each system has it's own advantages and disadvantages.
@@SingularSoundOfficial Thanks for your reply! I like very much what you said about BB as slave of the Aeros. If that is the case, would the Aeros be synced with BB? I make this question because it is easy to understand that sync is possible using a looper as slave because the BB will send the Midi Clock to the looper (this is something that already occurs using BB along with Infinity Looper). But if this happens the other way around (BB as slave of the Aeros), I am not sure if that will sync. I hope I am missing something that you guys in Singular Sound have had already figured out. please let us know. Cheers.
@@SingularSoundOfficial When using BB as the master, can you still use Aeros' foot switch to transition to the next song part instead of using the BB to transition? Having BB to transition to a new song part would mean that I will have to have all the song parts in BB and be forced to use a different drum parts for each new song part instead of keeping the same beat across multiple song parts. It would be easier for more spontaneous playing if Aeros could be used for both switching song parts and to cue the transition at the end of the current loop, and using BB transition only to switch between different beat patterns. This way, the player can have the freedom of switching only the drums within a song part or switch song parts with the same drum beat. Also, would midi maestro be integrated into the workflow of BB+Aeros at some point? I have been a happy user of BB ( I was a kickstarter backer) and I have placed an order for aeros already. I am a big fan of your work and I would be considering midi-maestro as well if it can integrate seamlessly to BB+Aeros. Keep up the great work!
@@vicenteb531 Yes! they will sync together (Aeros master) and it will make the BB to change to different parts. Feel free to email us at support@singularsound.com for any additional questions.
@@SingularSoundOfficial great! thanks for your reply!
I have all 3. Maestro, Bb and then aeros in that order... is there a video for that
Check out this video tutorial: th-cam.com/video/j5CgJ_SPVyA/w-d-xo.html
@@SingularSoundOfficial Problem is, I use a pedalboard, so I was looking for a drawing that shows how to route EVERYTHING together. Im not sure if I want a drum machine going through a tube amp though. When I just had the BB , id run it separately through a solid state amp. I see tons of videos on how to use these separately but nothing with all of these elements together. Does anyone have a drawing they can send me?
@@brexxebender1204 the BeatBuddy should be send to a full range amp/monitor speakers to achieve the best quality sound. Please join us on our forum or email us at support@singularsound.com
When I create a new song in the Aeros and save it, will it remember which drum beat was used in the beat buddy for that song? Will it pull up that drum beat when I reopen the song? Otherwise how would I remember which beats go with which songs? Would I have to go old school and write it all down?
Hey Todd, this is possible! It's just a little bit of a learning curve if you're not familiar with MIDI. Head to our manual, and read about MIDI song select in the MIDI & The Aeros section: singularsound-publicly-downloadable.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/manuals/Aeros+Loop+Studio+Manual+(Firmware+5.0.0).pdf
If you are still confused please reach out to our customer support team at support@singularsound.com to help further!
Hey is this functionality still current? I noticed the interface of the Aeros looks different than the current firmware. I'm also wondering if there's a way for the Aeros to influence the transitions/timings of the BB? I think I tried plugging the MIDI out of the Aeros back into the master synced BB and it caused a total gridlock, so I assume it's impossible, but it would be great if it were more fluid. Makes me think that using USB MIDI sync would be a better choice for syncing like on a computer DAW...
Also, where can I find this particular drum groove? I just checked the MyBB site and couldn't find a Jazz Funky loop pack?
Hi there! The units work using the BB as the master clock and the ALS as the MIDI slave. We hope to expand the Aeros MIDI capabilities (master clock) very soon. You can sync you DAW to the Aeros the same way as the BB. You can always edit or export any MIDI file into the unit using the BBM software.
@@SingularSoundOfficial Okay, good to know it's in the works. I'm wondering about the exact Jazz Funky Brushes loop that you used, it looks like something that would come with the BB but it doesn't? Is that a loop you made yourself that's not publicly available? I'm trying to avoid getting bogged down in MIDI editing when I intend to practice looping. Thanks.
@@aydengrahammusic that beat comes in the default content. It is the Jazz 6 funky jazz 140BPM with the jazz brush drum set sound.
I may be dumb.....but the breakaway cable I bought specifically for my Beat Buddy to go to my Aeros Loop Studio...doesn't fit.....the Aeros In/Out are Female....and the cable ends that are supposed to plug into Aeros from Beat Buddy are also female......do I need extra adapter? Also the silver ring in the Aeros is kinda Star shaped instead of just an unbroken circle like in the Aeros manual... anyway, any suggestions?
Hey there,
You need at least two cables to use the BB's MIDI capabilities. One being the breakout cable, which we sell on our website. The other being a standard male to male MIDI cable.
To use the BB as master, have the male to male MIDI cable connect to the OUT port on the MIDI Breakout Cable. Then, you connect the Male to male MIDI cable to your MIDI IN on the Aeros.
@@SingularSoundOfficial thank you so much! I thought I was going crazy. 🤓👀😎🤟
Can you do fade ?
You can use the volume wheel to face the whole mix or individual tracks/loops.
Will this looper eventually have effects like “fade out”, “reverse”, “tempo” // “pitch change”? Also can you easily sync it to a drum machine or ableton via midi // usb? If so I shall but this bloody thing tonight...
Those effects are on our development timeline, but will not ship with the first units. As of now, all MIDI sync is done through the MIDI IN/OUT 5 pin ports, but you can get a MIDI 5 pin to USB adapter.
@@SingularSoundOfficial Thx good to hear it! lastly is there an undo button you can use for each loop easily on the fly? Otherwise this thing seems perfect!
@@michaelmarsmusic holding down the right RPO button will undo the loop of each track. Check out this useful video: th-cam.com/video/4FTcwboaXWs/w-d-xo.html
Boomerang lll has all of those. More importantly it has 3 looping modes and doesn't need to promise firmware updates to be complete. This Aeros unit has no serial sync mode...a major flaw that I'm pretty sure a firmware update wont fix. It sort of requires the beat buddy....Drum machines will always lack the human element...esp in live performance
Aeros is way more powerful than a boomerang, I have a boomerang and there are a lot more options with this. The updates with Aeros are one of it's major benefits as it it won't get left behind and users can make suggestions. And finally, the BB sounds more human than a lot of drummers. Each to their own though when it comes to creativity and expression, to be honest I wish this stuff was a secret that only I knew about.😉
Can you sing anx record locals through this?
You can use a XRL to 1/4inch adapter and plug a mic. We recommend the use of a pre amp/mixer to have better control of the gain levels.
You sure can. I have some video demos up if you're interested, and lots more coming.
this beast looks a bit complicated for a tech dummy like myself. Infinity seems simpler, any comparison ideas? btw New Boss Rc10R drums arent as dynamic as beatbuddy, am i right? 🤓🤓
Hi Ece, the Aeros is super easy to use and it would work seamlessly with the BeatBuddy. The main advantage over the Infinity looper is the ability to see the wave forms and to mute and mix the loops on the fly. :)
Singular Sound we need more videos.. 🙏🤓 Can we split the vocal looping and guitar lopping to different inputs? Can we stop all the loops with our foot while the beatbuddy continues to play for the loopless song parts? i mean our song’s part where there isnt any loop but only drums. can we mute all the loops with a foot push while the BB continues to play? All of these details are so crucial for my decision.
@@ecedorsay the Aeros will record your vocals and guitar in separate inputs (L & R). You can mute any track and keep the beat going and bring them back at any time. Feel free to contact us at support@singularsound.com for any further questions.
Is it possible to control all these functions via MIDI?
Yes you can but we are still waiting on documentation
@@SingularSoundOfficial That is totally fantastic news. Right now 11/21/ish...I need to get used to navigating with the different icon function symbols and dots etc... One thing I learned which was my bad,....was that there MUST be at least 1 currently loaded "song" for using the loop studio. Correct? It'll get there. I'm only in the 2x2 mode!! LOL!
@@frankardos4211 Yes! you have to load or create a song on the Aeros first in order to record your loops.
@@SingularSoundOfficial You guys are THE best with all this! Yea I'm really green right now but learning. Once I get it fully midi w/BB I'll check back. Prob today if that's cool.I have a simple set up otherwise. Thx SS bigtime.
@@SingularSoundOfficial Hey guys. I don't seem to have midi working? I simply followed Anthony's instructions . I have one cable from the "out" of the y cable on BB to the "in" of the Aeros. The guitar works but no drums. Do I have to have an sd card for midi? The BB settings are correct I believe. Help!!
Someday I WILL own it but right now my pedalboard is full ;)
You can always get a bigger one. ;)
Have the BB :-) Was looking for a loop pedal . Your Team just keeps gleaming.
Thanks for the comment! Make sure to visit our website here: singularsound.com/
Pigtronix Infinity vs the Aeros?
Hi Donovan, make sure to visit our product page and find out all the complete features of the Aeros. singularsound.com/product/aeros-loop-studio/
Consider the boomerang lll....I love mine..Doesn't require a drum machine either . Cost $470 and is much more simple to learn and has more features and is rugged with great foot switch's that won't break easy. 3 looping modes as most good looping devises do.
@@richardmhaa6538 Just sold my Boomerang and Sidecar, it's an awesome unit for sure but the Aeros & BB combo is a quantum leap ahead for my needs. The Boomerang is built like a tank so for folks used to it no reason to switch unless you need the extra features and/or real estate on the pedalboard.
I THINK this is good. But I'm not sure. It's a bit like starting "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep". I have to keep going!
I ordered the Aeros loopstudio with the beatbuddy, midi cable and footswitch from a big store in the Netherlands. It was said the beatbuddy would be in stock next week which was a week ago. I'm returning The Aeros looper, midi cable and footswitch next week. When paying for expensive stuff, I'm a man of very little patience, this looper is pretty much useless to me without the beatbuddy, In my case I'm better off with my DAW and Ableton Live. Other than that, the beatbuddy should have an integrated looper, something simpler than the Aeros Loop studio would problably suffice. Now, I love pedals as much as the next guy but the Beatbuddy, Aeros Looper and footswitch are just too much. One device with enouch footswitches please. To end with something positive, the looper does an exellent job of the one thing it's name suggests, looping. I just wish the screen was bigger, damned, there I go again...
Gosh Im watching this and asking myself why not make it simpler for gig musician playing in small spaces, put a looper on your next beatbuddy release and voila. That will retire all Boss entry line products rc3, 10r
We're considering this in the future.
@@SingularSoundOfficial Thank you for your reply, but please note that the future is now. Now is the best time to beat the competition since many are at home learning and practising with this type of devices. Once life comes back to normal, good luck getting everyone's attention.
It's over priced for the lack of features. It will take longer to loop a 3 part song because this unit only records in serial mode and not serial sync. Therefore this thing was made for the beatbuddy. The problem is you would never use this to successfully entertain a live audience because they have to listen to a drum machine thru the whole show. Seems great for the studio but not for live because without the drum machine that was made for this unit by the same company. After about $1000 you can have both. The art of looping live is making the build up fun, not taking up to 2 minutes to create the tracks, while having to concentrate on drum fills and parts as well as concentrating on looping. Looks perfect for studio/home recordings. The buttons look very breakable as well....$600 ? The best live loopers create live percussion sounds or tap them out via an hand drum or synth pads from a midi devise. Studio for sure..Live...GL
Hi Richard, you can record live percussion sounds using one of the inputs and add external instruments (hand drum & pads) for your songs with the Aeros. You can use the looper in free form mode or internally quantized and don't have to use the BeatBuddy as your drummer "click". Check out this cool video with Joe Vitale Jr where he explains different ways to use the looper. th-cam.com/video/lXd58H3i38w/w-d-xo.html
Singular Sound: you have chosen such awful sounding music for this video, that I finally had to just stop watching. You only have 245 views so far. Good time to think about changing that music. There is no target audience for the music you chose.
We're disappointed to hear that you didn't like the music. We appreciate the feedback. Feel free to send us your music and we'll check it out!
@@SingularSoundOfficial I agree with Brian
@@SingularSoundOfficial I think a blues or rock would be better for everyone to understand or appreciate !!! anyway goood job !!
@@didieramont2186 We will on the next video. Stay tuned.
agree they could have used a much more enjoyable song to demo this