genuine question for people that knows: isnt full ap build for seraphine way better then heal/sheild power? (aka blackfire+liandries and/or ludens+magicpen)
Well, in my opinion, both builds are strong in their own right. It's not a matter of "which one is better," rather, "what are you looking to provide?" The full AP build is more powerful, however you lose out on the extra bit of utility for your teammates may need. So before you go with any, be sure to assess both yours and the enemy team and what they may look to do.
@@shadeecco836 true, and seraphine is more notorious and more hated for being the "pass the shield and double it to everyone" champ, i always buy or request a serpents when against sera, shes literally the most annoying enchanter for me cause she just does everything better while also being annoying
the full ap build is more resource intensive, you hit key item spikes way slower and need to vacuum up waves that can be otherwise funneled into your adc. heal and shield power is way cheaper than ap items while healing for more or less the same amount. you just lose out on damage, which is negated by the fact that your adc has more farm.
In general? Yeah. But it’s a question of what the team needs and here they needed an enchanter not a mage. Their comp heavily relied on Seraphine to be putting out big healing and shielding to keep Wukong and K’Sante up. Building mage items, while stronger in a vacuum, would’ve been weaker in context and cost them heavily.
ok i might have missunderstood it but, is it me or wasnt azzap kindof ignored while talking about teamcomps in lobby? like especially on the last game, he was saying oh we can play hwei jhin bot, and they were saying "nah go braum or a melee guy." like i dont know the other teammates so maybe they really knew better then him, but it felt has in the supp pick wasnt about "oh what can you play well" but more in a "play something for the team".
@@antoineboucher5391JG and Mid take priority when it comes to picks. They control the entire map in the first 20 minutes, bot and top are basically afk farming for the first 20 minutes waiting for objectives, JG and Mid have impact everywhere. If Hwei, Jhin was picked top/jg are forced to pick some form of front line (maokai as he said) which they thought wouldn't work well with akshan (also they have viego jungle which will usually murder maokai)
true, our boi is best at those high damage support rather than a full fledge support for a team that do not have enough damage especially game 2 and 4, lux or brand would actually reasonable to play
Kirei kinda explains it no? He says that with akshan jhin hwei he has to go utility tank jgl like maokai but with akshan mid an aggressive invade/ganking jungler is better (like elise).
@alext8060 yeah i get it now. The thing i still am iffy about is why is support such a "fill" role in terms of team comps, (im a mid main, its not me saying "oh my role is too weak/strong!!) There is 2 ways i can see why it could be. 1. Either a support champ has a very high impact on a game (and champ mastery doesnt really mattered compared to which champ u use) or 2. Supp is very unimpactfull, so much so that it doesnt matter if you are good or a god at a champ if you dont get countered by the ennemy team, you have a chance of winning that is mostly dependent on team comps. Ofc the 2 point have exceptions of if azzapp would have been able to play velkoz, he would have been carrying or at least had veryy high impact just by the fact that he is that good with velkoz. And other highly skilled players in supp would also be exceptions
Azzap my G.O.A.T these are all close fights. Cadreal is not only growing his community he's helping others show case their talent and grow their followings as well who would've thought you can get close to ex pro's and elite level players.
Azzapp, just because I played velkoz I was placed emerald 4 95 lp in flex and bronze 1 in solo q. LogoPedik#Korum I love you mate! Just because of you I found joy in league again
and people still treat %hp dmg as this holy grail of brokennes on our lord and savior jesus christ's year of 2024, gameplay mechanincs play second to whatever bs the next champs kit are
I have a honest question Azzapp, Why did u try to target thebuasffs champ pool? Cus like, Wouldnt it be more fun to face ur opponent when theyre giving it their all?
Targeting one specific player's pool is done to have a specific advantage/game plan to exploit one weak point. Since Baus is forced out of his comfort zone/usual pool it's good to assume his opponent's going to have an easier time than anyone else in the game.
I think he thought Baus was the weak link of their team, and by making him more vulnerable, the team can better exploit him. Whether that worked out or not is another matter.
i watched first game it was so good.. especially when i watched both POVS in champion select at the same time lol
1:55:25 "contesting woolves might be hard" was so funny lol
This hurts to watch, poor Azzap with no roster
genuine question for people that knows: isnt full ap build for seraphine way better then heal/sheild power? (aka blackfire+liandries and/or ludens+magicpen)
Well, in my opinion, both builds are strong in their own right. It's not a matter of "which one is better," rather, "what are you looking to provide?" The full AP build is more powerful, however you lose out on the extra bit of utility for your teammates may need. So before you go with any, be sure to assess both yours and the enemy team and what they may look to do.
@@shadeecco836 true, and seraphine is more notorious and more hated for being the "pass the shield and double it to everyone" champ, i always buy or request a serpents when against sera, shes literally the most annoying enchanter for me cause she just does everything better while also being annoying
the full ap build is more resource intensive, you hit key item spikes way slower and need to vacuum up waves that can be otherwise funneled into your adc.
heal and shield power is way cheaper than ap items while healing for more or less the same amount. you just lose out on damage, which is negated by the fact that your adc has more farm.
In general? Yeah. But it’s a question of what the team needs and here they needed an enchanter not a mage.
Their comp heavily relied on Seraphine to be putting out big healing and shielding to keep Wukong and K’Sante up. Building mage items, while stronger in a vacuum, would’ve been weaker in context and cost them heavily.
it depends on the state of the game if you're so ahead with kills you build AP but the support item is consistent and they are cheaper
ok i might have missunderstood it but, is it me or wasnt azzap kindof ignored while talking about teamcomps in lobby? like especially on the last game, he was saying oh we can play hwei jhin bot, and they were saying "nah go braum or a melee guy." like i dont know the other teammates so maybe they really knew better then him, but it felt has in the supp pick wasnt about "oh what can you play well" but more in a "play something for the team".
btw im not saying "his team was unconsedirate!" but more of a "why is support so low on priority of opinions?"
@@antoineboucher5391JG and Mid take priority when it comes to picks. They control the entire map in the first 20 minutes, bot and top are basically afk farming for the first 20 minutes waiting for objectives, JG and Mid have impact everywhere. If Hwei, Jhin was picked top/jg are forced to pick some form of front line (maokai as he said) which they thought wouldn't work well with akshan (also they have viego jungle which will usually murder maokai)
true, our boi is best at those high damage support rather than a full fledge support for a team that do not have enough damage
especially game 2 and 4, lux or brand would actually reasonable to play
Kirei kinda explains it no? He says that with akshan jhin hwei he has to go utility tank jgl like maokai but with akshan mid an aggressive invade/ganking jungler is better (like elise).
@alext8060 yeah i get it now. The thing i still am iffy about is why is support such a "fill" role in terms of team comps, (im a mid main, its not me saying "oh my role is too weak/strong!!) There is 2 ways i can see why it could be. 1. Either a support champ has a very high impact on a game (and champ mastery doesnt really mattered compared to which champ u use) or 2. Supp is very unimpactfull, so much so that it doesnt matter if you are good or a god at a champ if you dont get countered by the ennemy team, you have a chance of winning that is mostly dependent on team comps.
Ofc the 2 point have exceptions of if azzapp would have been able to play velkoz, he would have been carrying or at least had veryy high impact just by the fact that he is that good with velkoz. And other highly skilled players in supp would also be exceptions
2 hours bro? come on, don't let me do it
Azzap my G.O.A.T these are all close fights. Cadreal is not only growing his community he's helping others show case their talent and grow their followings as well who would've thought you can get close to ex pro's and elite level players.
Azzap was in pro scene
Azzap can definitely play pro
sub 5 views!!! thank you for another video!! :D
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@@neotokyo385 classic weirdo 😂
@@neotokyo385 i have a husband?! where ru
Azzapp, just because I played velkoz I was placed emerald 4 95 lp in flex and bronze 1 in solo q. LogoPedik#Korum I love you mate! Just because of you I found joy in league again
Dang, I really wanted him to pick Nautilus in the first game.
So much more entertaining than any official League event
Was insane sett angel on game 3 for azzaap team
"Baus low champ pull"
that game 3 was sad, has 2 champs with % health dmg and still cant do shit against skarner and cho :_(
and people still treat %hp dmg as this holy grail of brokennes on our lord and savior jesus christ's year of 2024, gameplay mechanincs play second to whatever bs the next champs kit are
@@yuhan4469 Dipshit %hp damage is specifically targeting tanks like the op mentioned, reading comprehension L womp womp
how does he have a thumbs up on velkoz during champ select?
Is it that you respect baus, cause everyone talks about wiping his champ pool out granted he has a smaller pool?
The 5th game was fire🔥🔥
2nd! Thanks again for the daily vids brother!
I like how they making fun of the Baus and his team and gets absolutely destroyed on macro level. Good Ego check.
Your team should review the games (replay) straight after like Los Ratones do.
Game 2 made me need therapy. Like my stomach hurts after watching that.
2:09:44 wtf is you on about man 😭😭😂😂
Azzap.should really start pathing with his jungler and not auto pathing botlane after every death
the perma ban of vel koz is a bit too much imo, there should be a rule something like you cant ban the same champions you banned the previous game
True but they also miss on a lot if they perma ban velkoz always
Its fearless. If a champion is picked in any of the games it can not be played again
It's a Fearless Draft dude...
@@ahmetdemyeah i did not know that thanks
They were targeting Baus right back lol, it works out. Fearless strategy on both sides tbh
I have a honest question Azzapp,
Why did u try to target thebuasffs champ pool?
Cus like, Wouldnt it be more fun to face ur opponent when theyre giving it their all?
Targeting one specific player's pool is done to have a specific advantage/game plan to exploit one weak point.
Since Baus is forced out of his comfort zone/usual pool it's good to assume his opponent's going to have an easier time than anyone else in the game.
They want to win?
I think he thought Baus was the weak link of their team, and by making him more vulnerable, the team can better exploit him. Whether that worked out or not is another matter.
Found Goku's account
“I heard you’re strong”
What are the rules of the tournament
Fearless Draft
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