@@1972Georges Hey, not sure what Peter Griffin got but I went with an E-1 with the Fishmans and then an S-II. The E-1 records better than a guitar I paid 5x as much for.
@alan wake The only argument against it that I've heard is that it's harder to work with in general. I've heard luthiers say that it wears their tools out faster etc as well because it's a much harder material. I've also heard some people say "it changes the tone". I highly doubt anyone would be able to hear a difference blind though.
Nic Lastname there is a Warmoth comparison between stainless and nickel frets and it’s actually a pretty noticeable difference. I prefer the stainless for most things.
Which one would you choose? 1. Spec Comparison - 1:37 2. Construction Comparison - 5:48 3. Tone Comparison - 8:28 4. Final Thoughts and Recommendations - 13:21 Guitars: Schecter: imp.i114863.net/3Q9Yk Ibanez: imp.i114863.net/zMez7 Enjoy!
Darrell Braun Guitar honestly for the price of both you can get a fender, both great guitars but Ibanez are such a common company and schecter are associated with metal music, for the price you could get a prs, a much more well rounded guitar
I'd take the schecter personally, however that's only because I already have a Japanese made S-Prestige that I love. Definitely for sound I much preferred the Dimarzio pickups.
Gary from GLASGOW Because you don't buy a guitar just for its looks? Tone, quality and weight/ergonomics is why I'd pick the Ibanez. I think it looks better too, but that's just subjective.
I agree with you. When it comes to 7-string guitars, I prefer an Ibanez. However, I am a proud owner of a Schecter Diamond Series C-1 Custom 24 with factory installed Seymour Duncan pickups and Grover turners. I've owned it for two decades now and it will always be my favorite guitar.
I disagree. A 26.5 scale ( shecter omen 7 ) is a much better choice for low string note stability. More tension across a longer tensioner will always sound better. Ibanez really should invert the headstock on all their 7 strung guitars as it would achieve a better low end due to the increased tension length
as close as these two guitars 3were in the demonstrations, i'm floored by ... the editing skills for the overall quality... and not a fingerprint in sight.
I got a Schecter C7 hellraiser on ebay for I think $450 back in 2007 and couldnt be happier with it. Plays better than a les paul imo. This vid and the other he did just sold me on getting the c1 sls elite
Fun Facts: Schecter is owned by the same guy who owns ESP and they were originally a pickup/replacement part company before building high-end custom shop instruments for guys like Mark Knopfler,Prince and Pete Townsend. P.S. you forgot 2 very important differences. The Schecter has a compound radius neck which is more ergonomic than the Ibanez Wizard neck and it has stainless steel frets,which will last longer than the nickel ones of the Ibanez.
I purchased the Schecter you show in the video but different color and love it. Like you say you cannot beat the value for what you get. I sold my Fender strat years ago and wanted to start playing again so I choose the Schecter in the rosewood color. Love your videos.
Good comparison video. I would add construction details about the body wood (mahogany vs ash), and the fingerboard wood (rosewood vs ebony). Also a big construction detail, the truss rod access, on the Schecter; the "wheel" style adjustment is an excellent feature, and it avoids removing wood at the neck/headstock joint.
@@CL8ON6 I always found Ibanez guitars beautiful, never noticed the selector plate until I finally started playing them in person and it really threw me off too, lol. It feels like you're rubbing a speed bump when you use the switch.
@@CL8ON6 Yeah I have a huge issue with knobs that close as well. I spent most of my time since I started, playing a Dean ML where the knobs and switches are WAY out of the way like a les paul etc. I tried to play a Schecter (don't remember the model), where the knob is right up next to the pickup like that and I was nudging it and changing the volume with my picking ALL THE TIME! That's when I started to notice how common that placement is. Look at most strats. They have it so damn close like that, so I guess a lot of people just get used to that from the beginning so it doesn't bother them. The funny thing to me is that it's unnecessary and when I look at Schecter's artist models, I noticed that pretty much every single artist has their controls moved out of the way. So I don't know why that's so common like that. The only explanation I've heard is for people that want to do volume swells. I don't hear most people doing volume swells though lol. Plus, they could just get a volume pedal for that.
I actually love the tones on the Schecter. It was warmer meatier and smooth. I Ibanez was a little tinier or thin to me. At the same time, I do like thin necks and lighter weight. But, if the price is as good as you say, I would definitely go with the Schecter. However, I'm a 3 pickups man, ideally, SSH with a pull switch. I really love the single coil sound.
I know I'm late but the ibanez sounds SO much better. The schecter sounds muffled especially in high notes because it's compressed. You can always compress in a mix or with a pedal, I don't want that sound coming from the pickup.
I bought the exact same Schecter whilst in Japan a few months ago, except it has a floyd rose equiped. Amazing guitar to play and looks absolutely stunning!
I got mine two weeks ago used for €800 shipped to Ireland from USA, it has the floyd Rose and Sustainiac, I bought it as soon as I saw Darren's review, this guitar is awesome and stunning..
Robbie Ei2iP bro, can you help me find one too, and in good shape? I don’t need the Sustainiac, just the normal C-1 FR SLS Elite would do. It needs to be in an acceptable condition and would appreciate it if it is under $1,000 including shipping to Bangladesh, that is my country. :)
@cloud chaser the ibanez might get you more praise on stage because of the brand, but anyone who knows the value of a schec will love it just as much. These guitars are pretty well matched but the schecter looks a million bucks better with better value so I know what I'd choose.
How can u beat these fluence pick ups they are way too clean in my opinion the best pickups and most versatile in the the world with a wide range of tones
The Schecter!! I have a few, all the different necks, amazing instruments, can't go wrong with Schecter. I will buy this new one, absolutely love the neck-thru, my C-1 classic never fails.
I have Ibanez, and I have schecter. I probably haven’t picked up the Ibanez in over a year, and next time I’m in the market, I’ll be going schecter again. 100%
I'm not a Ibanez guy but I love Schecter. I own 3 of them so far. I have the Schecter PT special (Thanks to you Darell and your video), the Schecter PT Fastback IIB Emerald Green and the Schecter C-1 Exotic Tremolo! All 3 are vastly different from each other and all 3 serve me well!
I'm really impressed with the Schecter, great build and tone. And to my surprise, I think the Schecter has a beautiful finish (still can't compete with DB and SG, but no finish can).
What a great review. Back to back comparisons of the guitar playing exactly the same lick. This is how all reviews should be with the quick A/B comparisons. Great job and just got another subscriber! 👍🏻
I have an original 1998 PRS custom 22 signature mint condition. Nothing to me beats the PRS but i like the mid tones and the bodies are fenominal, and the pickups are hand wound I would put Schector on stage with a PRS before I would put an Ibanez, Fender or Gibson. Well except for my 70s Ibanez Lawsuit. Which after intonating and thicker string change almost matched my PRS
@@anthonygiomi618 PRS are some of the most high end and Best Guitars, but all I want about Ibanez Guitars is the playability for shredding and dive bombings
@@unclelelax8341 I loved my Schecters the EMGs when I wanted to go heavy and hard and leads. But the hummbuckers when I drop tune or wanted more melodies or acoustic
What a informative and complete review for two amazing instruments! p.s. I'm long time Ibanez Saber line guitars addicted but c'mon the Schecter is ... gorgeous!
I own a Schecter C-1 platinum Diamond series and I absolutely love it. The active EMG pick-ups (81 and 85), the neck, the smooth transition cut out to the lower frets, extra jumbo frets, and satin finish that doesn't show finger prints. Also it stays in tune like a beast. This guitar with my Katana Boss modeling amp is just awesome. Also i purchased both together for just about $700.00 dollars. Price to performance its hard to beat...
There are literally thousands of reviews and comparisons on TH-cam. Very few of them are this high of quality. - A bassist who clicked on a random guitar video
i bought the sls elite last year. Im not sure of the ibanez specs from a deeper standpoint, but what sold me on the SLS aside from the incredible playability, was the structural details- the carbon fibre rods, spoke wheel truss adjustment, the fretwork. Agreed the bang for buck (and its not a cheap guitar either) is top notch. i play it everyday.
Just when I thought I wanted a Ibanez AZ (Premium) you bring up this Schecter to warm up my metal roots. Looks like an amazing guitar, really want to try it.
The AZ range looks like a great fusion between old school and new school... But I'm not a very big fan of the headstock and the slightly less agressive body style, the RG has always been my favourite because of just how thin and aggressive the horns are
I think the AZ’s are an extremely underwhelming reminder that you should get a guitar with a purpose in mind. They’re well made guitars, but they try to do too many things and end up being mediocre at all of them. They sound good, but not great at any specific thing.
@@MK4vDubbin It's kinda like "Oh hey we want to make a strat but make it Ibanez" And so it becomes either an underwhelming SA series or an underwhelming RG series. Pretty sure it sounds good, I just am not a big fan of the aesthetics
Ibanez used to make very reasonable priced,high-end guitars Made in Japan. Sadly it has become so expensive to make guitars in Japan nowadays,MIJ guitars are as expensive as Made in USA models in some cases.Their import series like the ''Premiums'' (Made in Indonesia) are hit or miss,I've seen some which were great and some with horrible fretwork or finishing flaws.Their necks are also an aquired taste,they're build for superfast playing and have very flat fretboards,that's why they're so popular among shred-players,but for rythm stuff and chords they're not so good. Schecter's import series,specially the more high-end models made in S.Korea are absolute value for money,same with the Made in Indonesia series. They have either brandname pickups like these Fishman Fluence here or EMG's or Schecter's own,Made in USA passive pickups.(Keep in mind,Schecter was originally a pickup company,so their stock pickups are top.) Their fretwork, necks and neckjoints are great,many models have compound radius fretboards (wider up the neck,flatter the more you go down) and ss-frets,which makes their playabillity superb. What makes them also very attractive,they offer fixed bridge and Floyd Rose for most models and also every model is available as a lefthanded version. Another great alternative,for rock/metal,are the Charvel Pro Mod Series.
In the tone matchup, I preferred the tone of the Schecter. Sounds fuller like a LP, the Ibanez more like the Strat, a little on the twangy side.. Each have their place.. Although I don't like the battery aspect of the Fischmans. I am with you on your verdict.. Half the price for comparable fiddles is a winner every time... Thanks for the comparison...
As I am looking for a new guitar, I love these comparison. But here you did perfect choosing. The 2 guitars you showed are the two who got me the most trigerd. Gotta check them both out.
Great review , i have said this before, a pro player can take a new $1000 Schecter out of the box and tour consistently with it with no issues. So a $500 Schecter is also a great guitar coming with pro stuff , grovers, graphite nut, exc..... they are a "players guitar" .
One of my guitars is a reissue C-1 Classic neckthru, w/ Ducan JB and Jazz pups, beautiful amber quilted maple top, rosewood fretboard, extra jumbo frets with a vine inlay that goes all along the neck. Originally I purchased a 2008 model and had it for good number of years. I could never quite get the intonation as perfect as I thought it should be. About 6 years ago I contacted Schecter and explained what was happening, and asked if there was a fix they could do, because to me it looked like the saddle bridge was not place quite right. I was amazed, and greatly impressed that the rep asked me to send my C-1 in, so that they tech department could take a look at. I said, no problem. I sent it to them. I got a call from them a couple days after the confirmed delivery. The rep told me that the bridge was indeed not place correctly when it was made, and that that is a factory defect. The amazing part? Their amazing warranty. The rep offered me a brand new C-1. However, he explained that my version of the C-1 had been discontinued, but they reissued that guitar, and the only difference is that the new version has an abalone vine inlay instead of the older pearl inlay. No problem I said, I'll take it. They shipped a brand new C-1 and case, and it played and sounded fantastic just like the original. Back in 2008 IIRC the list price was around $800, and I paid around $600. I think Schecter no longer make the C-1 Classic. I'm keeping mine cause it is a fantastic guitar that I use for my Humbucker tones, and it's infinitely better feeling and playing than a 2015 Gibson Les Paul Standard I bought back then. Yes, my C-1 is a better guitar than the LP Standard. The LP looks awesome as it's a classic guitar, but for playability the C-1 wins hands down. Tones are very close, player's choice. I like them both.
Re binding. The neck binding is a highlight the body binding is more at a level with the lower neck the cream binding may be more to tie in with the wood on the neck than the binding on it as it's visually on the same level. That might explain it.
Great video Darrell! I've gone back and forth for 6 mos about the guitar I want to buy. Your first video on the Schecter pretty much won me over and this comparison was the nail in the coffin. Thanks so much man!!
I've just bought an entry-level Ibanez S series as my first triple-figure guitar since I only really just jam by myself at home and it's incredible. So diverse with the right reverb, drive and distortion pedals and god it's comfortable and beautiful
Hey Darrell, i think both "beasts" are realy excellent and fantastic electric guitars, can´t say which one i would to buy !!! very difficult !! thanks for the introdution !!!
I just bought a Vintage White Demon 7 over the summer, and the amount of love you continuously give Schecter makes me so glad I picked them for the very first electric guitar AND 7 string that I've purchased as an independent adult! I still am faced with the arduous task of learning to play the thing well, but it is a joy to struggle along with this instrument. I'd really love to see you do a deep dive on the Demon 7, as I've not found many creators covering it, at least not with the quality or expertise that you bring to the table. Thank you for all you do, Darrell!
Regarding Binding: Presumably the white binding on the neck is to provide higher contrast with the dots, which can be issue under some conditions (speaking from experience). I assume the cream color on the body is because it looks better there... This makes sense to me, functionality where you need it, cosmetic where it does not compromise function.
I prefer the Ibanez for the passive pickups. Although, I started playing two years before the Jem was released so hearing that combination referred to as traditional, makes me feel really old lol. Btw, thank you for mentioning the weight of the guitars. I'm in a wheelchair so weight is very important to me and it's a spec that doesn't get mentioned very often.
Yeah same here I feel old having it called a traditional sound I personally like the thinner sound of the Ibanez, to me that means clarity and the chunkiness of the schecter to me sounds like impeeding how long it could hold a note and there's not a lot of room to improve tone if you like fast metal like me. Some people like that me personally no thanks Ibanez all the way
I bought my schecter hellraiser 2 years ago and it is definitely my go to. Excellent Bang for the buck especially with the Floyd and sustainiac. It's way better than I am.
ive had my schecter c-1 E/A for about ten years and can still remember the day i picked it up. the second i held it and played it i knew i was dealing with something that far exceeded anything in its immediate price range. ive owned literally about 40 guitars and many have come and gone over the years. i currently own about 12. some are fenders, some are jackson and ibanez, gretsch. and the schecter still hasnt been beaten. schecters at the 600-1200 dollar ranges will almost always play and feel like something double its price.
Nice review, I own both a couple Ibanez and a Schecter. I'm a Lefty, not a lot to chose from. My Schecter is the Avenger with EMG active pickups 81/85 (Vito Bratta, Zak Wylde) Love it, different sound , great construction. Its just different than my Jems and RG, both the Avenger and Jems are in my top choice of my collection.
BEAUTIFUL playing, especially with the backing track. Very nice. I've been curious about Fishman having just heard of them a couple months ago, that was a perfect comparison for me. I have four Schectors and they indeed are awesome for their price, even the C-6 series is very well built. Curious, what strings were on each guitar for this demo?
Right? To me that's the worst thing about Strats and super-strats that dates back to Eddie's home-made super-S. That damn knob under my hand when I palm mute. I have big hands, always bumping volume knob or the selector. John Petrucci did it perfectly when he designed his MM, the knobs are JUST out of range of the sweep of my knuckles. Besides, if I want volume swells, I have a volume pedal.
I've bought both brands and at least for the guitars I bought the Ibanez has far better quality. The Schechter is more visually appealing but I had to have the frets dressed, reseated.
I had a Prestige and it was absolutely awesome. But I had a Schecter that was awesome. Both are great. My choice goes with my Schecter! Getting ready to order another C-1 . Love them!
That piece deserves to be in a museum of guitar history as the component that was so beautiful the rest of the guitar only reduced it's splendour. Even a koa top would not do justice to it.
Ok. Being a Ibanez lover I must pick the Schecter. I don't care for the "S" saber series Ibanez guitars. I always go for the Ibanez RG guitars. I've never really cared for Schecter guitars but in this case the Schecter definately wins. If it were against a RG and a tremolo was in play the Ibanez would win. Ibanez edge style tremolo systems are the best double locking trems in my opnion. Thanks for this video.
Interesting and Great Vid! Put my best headphones on through DAC to here these, the BlueTooth laptop speakers weren't cuttin it. Have to say things always sound different between being Live and once Recorded. Listened a few times and concluded the Fishman's sounded better, more defined across the board. Chords were terrific, able to hear each string and nothing getting lost. Still the Dimarzio's have that tone so familiar, it feels like home. Reason I was surprised and had to listen a few times, was hard not to be prejudiced by something one knows well (Ibanez/Dimarzio Combo). Never owned a Schecter, came close but always decide on something else. Sounds odd but always got this voice in my head saying "Really good parts, feels good, looks good, sounds good ..... Why so cheap compared to _________", as if there had to be something wrong. Yup Crazy! This Video may have Sold me on one. That's one heck of a guitar, prefer the neck and body over the thinner Ibanez. too. Very Sweet Guitar!! The Ibanez is stunning from the front! Anyone know if it is a Laminate top or an actual hunk of quilted Maple? Tis gorgeous!!. As far as the question of White binding on the neck whereas the body it cream. Simple answer, COST. Can make a pile of necks and all can be put of various coloured bodies with white neck binding, cheaper overall as production doesn't have to stop and change colours (also white is a fractionally cheaper too when purchased in HUGE quantities. Plus it can be an extra bonus having colour matched binding only on a Custom Shop Model. Really good Vid Darrell. Both guitars were shown very well. The Nut on the Shecter is an Ernie Ball Compensated Nut, found it on a spec sheet. Guess that one is a draw.
The only things that matters in the end are: Amp, Cab and Hands. Guitars are just signal senders, there is no any difference in sound between those two. Appearance, comfort yes. Any effects on sound ( No). Buy good cab, good amp. Take a piece of wood with pick-ups and strings , and it will sound good.
I bought a Schecter and it's all your fault! I absolutely love it too, thanks!
He's responsible for my Schecter buy as well, lol, and he's absolutely right.. Schecter is a top notch quality, I love mine.
@@petergriffin383 what mod?
@@petergriffin383 Enjoy! And I got another one but don't tell anyone!
@@1972Georges Hey, not sure what Peter Griffin got but I went with an E-1 with the Fishmans and then an S-II. The E-1 records better than a guitar I paid 5x as much for.
@@1972Georges I got the C1 Platinum, they usually retail between $500-$600, not to be confused with the Hellraiser which has a slightly hotter pickup
I hope other major brands will follow Schecter's lead and start offering stainless steel frets on guitars in the ~$1000 range.
@alan wake The only argument against it that I've heard is that it's harder to work with in general. I've heard luthiers say that it wears their tools out faster etc as well because it's a much harder material.
I've also heard some people say "it changes the tone". I highly doubt anyone would be able to hear a difference blind though.
It's weird every other major production brand within this demographic (Jackson/LTD 1000) don't use SS frets standard for that price range.
Nic Lastname there is a Warmoth comparison between stainless and nickel frets and it’s actually a pretty noticeable difference. I prefer the stainless for most things.
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@alan wake In many cases luthiers are manufacturers as well. SS kills your tool life and increases labor, and that is why they don't want to use it.
Schecter makes Left Handed versions of this....Ibanez does not.
-Salty Lefty
I feel your pain man, want to buy a strandberg but they have none available in left handed. Was thinking of getting a schecter silver mountain
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There are SOME S Series Left hand ibanez out there... Just not so easy to come across. Second hand is best bet...
That's why I learned right handed guitar even though I'm a lefty.
@@donovenvarner that’s impressive
Which one would you choose?
1. Spec Comparison - 1:37
2. Construction Comparison - 5:48
3. Tone Comparison - 8:28
4. Final Thoughts and Recommendations - 13:21
Guitars:
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Ibanez: imp.i114863.net/zMez7
Enjoy!
Darrell Braun Guitar honestly for the price of both you can get a fender, both great guitars but Ibanez are such a common company and schecter are associated with metal music, for the price you could get a prs, a much more well rounded guitar
I'd take the schecter personally, however that's only because I already have a Japanese made S-Prestige that I love. Definitely for sound I much preferred the Dimarzio pickups.
I'll take the Ibanez
Schecter for me. Everything about it looks better why pay almost double buy two guitars for price of Ibanez.
Gary from GLASGOW
Because you don't buy a guitar just for its looks? Tone, quality and weight/ergonomics is why I'd pick the Ibanez. I think it looks better too, but that's just subjective.
I agree with you. When it comes to 7-string guitars, I prefer an Ibanez. However, I am a proud owner of a Schecter Diamond Series C-1 Custom 24 with factory installed Seymour Duncan pickups and Grover turners. I've owned it for two decades now and it will always be my favorite guitar.
i agree mine has the same specs roughly the same age and it is a bullet proof guitar. plays better than my PRS and Carvin.
I disagree. A 26.5 scale ( shecter omen 7 ) is a much better choice for low string note stability. More tension across a longer tensioner will always sound better. Ibanez really should invert the headstock on all their 7 strung guitars as it would achieve a better low end due to the increased tension length
as close as these two guitars 3were in the demonstrations, i'm floored by ... the editing skills for the overall quality... and not a fingerprint in sight.
The speed at which he removed the plastic at 7:04 almost made me collapse as I stood :o Great video as always though, Darrell!
That was amazingly quick! Would have taken me a whole minute just to get an edge started.
Really appreciate how you organize and break down your videos in the first comment , very helpful and organized.
even my $400 Schecter is pretty damn great, so I would expect nothing less than this one being great as well.
Which schecter do you have? I was gonna buy a new guitar soon
@@pokefanover900000000 I have the Omen 6 extreme, in Ocean Blue, and it's is fantastic. Never had a better guitar for under $400
@@Briansgate bought the same guitar and I agree. Best for the money.
Not the FR version?
I got a Schecter C7 hellraiser on ebay for I think $450 back in 2007 and couldnt be happier with it. Plays better than a les paul imo. This vid and the other he did just sold me on getting the c1 sls elite
Fun Facts: Schecter is owned by the same guy who owns ESP and they were originally a pickup/replacement part company before building high-end custom shop instruments for guys like Mark Knopfler,Prince and Pete Townsend.
P.S. you forgot 2 very important differences.
The Schecter has a compound radius neck which is more ergonomic than the Ibanez Wizard neck and it has stainless steel frets,which will last longer than the nickel ones of the Ibanez.
at 13:57 for the stainless steel frets ;)
Schecter also has a 26.5" scale length on their 7 strings, which is MUCH better for low end note clarity
Battle of the Lead Shred Machines! Both sounded awesome by your performances, and did both justice!
Schecter for the win stainless steel Frets neck through Construction $500 less
I think it's more like $700 - $800 less.
agree
Aren’t like fishman pickups almost 400 dollars alone?
It's 1180$
Which model
I purchased the Schecter you show in the video but different color and love it. Like you say you cannot beat the value for what you get. I sold my Fender strat years ago and wanted to start playing again so I choose the Schecter in the rosewood color. Love your videos.
Good comparison video. I would add construction details about the body wood (mahogany vs ash), and the fingerboard wood (rosewood vs ebony). Also a big construction detail, the truss rod access, on the Schecter; the "wheel" style adjustment is an excellent feature, and it avoids removing wood at the neck/headstock joint.
You nailed my biggest peeve about the Ibanez "S" series, that ugly selector plate!
I'm always bothered by how close the volume knob on ibanez is to the bridge pickup
@@CL8ON6 I always found Ibanez guitars beautiful, never noticed the selector plate until I finally started playing them in person and it really threw me off too, lol. It feels like you're rubbing a speed bump when you use the switch.
I think it has a unique charm
@@CL8ON6 Yeah I have a huge issue with knobs that close as well. I spent most of my time since I started, playing a Dean ML where the knobs and switches are WAY out of the way like a les paul etc. I tried to play a Schecter (don't remember the model), where the knob is right up next to the pickup like that and I was nudging it and changing the volume with my picking ALL THE TIME! That's when I started to notice how common that placement is. Look at most strats. They have it so damn close like that, so I guess a lot of people just get used to that from the beginning so it doesn't bother them.
The funny thing to me is that it's unnecessary and when I look at Schecter's artist models, I noticed that pretty much every single artist has their controls moved out of the way. So I don't know why that's so common like that. The only explanation I've heard is for people that want to do volume swells. I don't hear most people doing volume swells though lol. Plus, they could just get a volume pedal for that.
@@CL8ON6 that is placed there to be able to do volume swells while still having your hand in place to pick
Those Fishmans really have some meat to them. Love this so much --- you are an amazing teacher! Appreciate this channel so much.
Yep, it's a done deal. You just forced me to buy a Schecter. It arrives in 2 days
Howzit?
How's it
What model did u bought sir?
I actually love the tones on the Schecter. It was warmer meatier and smooth. I Ibanez was a little tinier or thin to me. At the same time, I do like thin necks and lighter weight. But, if the price is as good as you say, I would definitely go with the Schecter. However, I'm a 3 pickups man, ideally, SSH with a pull switch. I really love the single coil sound.
I know I'm late but the ibanez sounds SO much better. The schecter sounds muffled especially in high notes because it's compressed. You can always compress in a mix or with a pedal, I don't want that sound coming from the pickup.
I bought the exact same Schecter whilst in Japan a few months ago, except it has a floyd rose equiped. Amazing guitar to play and looks absolutely stunning!
I got mine two weeks ago used for €800 shipped to Ireland from USA, it has the floyd Rose and Sustainiac, I bought it as soon as I saw Darren's review, this guitar is awesome and stunning..
Robbie Ei2iP bro, can you help me find one too, and in good shape? I don’t need the Sustainiac, just the normal C-1 FR SLS Elite would do. It needs to be in an acceptable condition and would appreciate it if it is under $1,000 including shipping to Bangladesh, that is my country. :)
Schecter wins it for me. Every schecter I’ve ever picked up had flawless fret work and great specs
@cloud chaser asking if schecter's are good for hard rock is like asking if humans are good at breathing- they're built for it!
@cloud chaser tbh im asking the same thing for my next one. Both great though!
@cloud chaser the ibanez might get you more praise on stage because of the brand, but anyone who knows the value of a schec will love it just as much. These guitars are pretty well matched but the schecter looks a million bucks better with better value so I know what I'd choose.
@cloud chaser built for it. They can play clean genres really well, too. However, I am having a problem with clean being distorted.....
How can u beat these fluence pick ups they are way too clean in my opinion the best pickups and most versatile in the the world with a wide range of tones
Makes me feel really old when you refer to Steve Vai as "old school".
Well Steve Vai was born 1960; and I’m 51 years old.. it is what is?!
Yeah to my ears Ibanez still have a "modern" sound 😂 but when you think Vai was a pro in 85... That's quite some time ago, isn't
The Schecter!! I have a few, all the different necks, amazing instruments, can't go wrong with Schecter. I will buy this new one, absolutely love the neck-thru, my C-1 classic never fails.
They could easily double the price on any of their models and it would still be a bargain. There seems to be no competition for them.
I just got a v-1 custom such a beast
I have Ibanez, and I have schecter. I probably haven’t picked up the Ibanez in over a year, and next time I’m in the market, I’ll be going schecter again. 100%
I'm not a Ibanez guy but I love Schecter. I own 3 of them so far. I have the Schecter PT special (Thanks to you Darell and your video), the Schecter PT Fastback IIB Emerald Green and the Schecter C-1 Exotic Tremolo! All 3 are vastly different from each other and all 3 serve me well!
Love my Schecter, Swamp ash ,Ebony and Fishman Fluence ...nice combination
Thank you for the comparison. I was thinking about getting the Shecter. I already have 3 Ibanez prestiges.
My c-1 is in Red Reign has a Flotd rose 1500 bridge. It hasn't once gone outta tune despite the whammy usage.
I'm really impressed with the Schecter, great build and tone. And to my surprise, I think the Schecter has a beautiful finish (still can't compete with DB and SG, but no finish can).
What a great review. Back to back comparisons of the guitar playing exactly the same lick. This is how all reviews should be with the quick A/B comparisons. Great job and just got another subscriber! 👍🏻
PRS custom 24 vs The Ibanez S prestige
Shecter vs the Ibanez RG premium
For little bit of fairness in 💰 value😀
I have an original 1998 PRS custom 22 signature mint condition. Nothing to me beats the PRS but i like the mid tones and the bodies are fenominal, and the pickups are hand wound I would put Schector on stage with a PRS before I would put an Ibanez, Fender or Gibson. Well except for my 70s Ibanez Lawsuit. Which after intonating and thicker string change almost matched my PRS
@@anthonygiomi618 PRS are some of the most high end and Best Guitars, but all I want about Ibanez Guitars is the playability for shredding and dive bombings
@@unclelelax8341 I loved my Schecters the EMGs when I wanted to go heavy and hard and leads. But the hummbuckers when I drop tune or wanted more melodies or acoustic
prs beats all
@@anthonygiomi618 yes, I agree
What a informative and complete review for two amazing instruments!
p.s. I'm long time Ibanez Saber line guitars addicted but c'mon the Schecter is ... gorgeous!
for $2K the
Ibanez should
That guitar playing was absolutely fantastic.
I own a Schecter C-1 platinum Diamond series and I absolutely love it. The active EMG pick-ups (81 and 85), the neck, the smooth transition cut out to the lower frets, extra jumbo frets, and satin finish that doesn't show finger prints. Also it stays in tune like a beast. This guitar with my Katana Boss modeling amp is just awesome. Also i purchased both together for just about $700.00 dollars. Price to performance its hard to beat...
Did the same. For about 550 for both. Wonderful combo
I had a 1977 Ibanez Stratocaster Copy , Fender Sued Them Over It
Got a '77 Ibanez Musician MC-500 (almost a Doug Irwin copy). Purchased while stationed in Japan. Good axe
Whenever i heard or see the word schecter,all that's in my mind is Synyster
There are literally thousands of reviews and comparisons on TH-cam. Very few of them are this high of quality.
- A bassist who clicked on a random guitar video
why not both? :)
Exactly!
I can't afford either hahaha
money
Yep, got my Schecter and the S series Ibanez is after the tax man. Can't wait!
i bought the sls elite last year. Im not sure of the ibanez specs from a deeper standpoint, but what sold me on the SLS aside from the incredible playability, was the structural details- the carbon fibre rods, spoke wheel truss adjustment, the fretwork. Agreed the bang for buck (and its not a cheap guitar either) is top notch. i play it everyday.
This video came up on my recommendation after buying a Schecter lolol
Your FBI agent wants you to know you made the right choice
Just when I thought I wanted a Ibanez AZ (Premium) you bring up this Schecter to warm up my metal roots. Looks like an amazing guitar, really want to try it.
The AZ range looks like a great fusion between old school and new school... But I'm not a very big fan of the headstock and the slightly less agressive body style, the RG has always been my favourite because of just how thin and aggressive the horns are
I think the AZ’s are an extremely underwhelming reminder that you should get a guitar with a purpose in mind. They’re well made guitars, but they try to do too many things and end up being mediocre at all of them. They sound good, but not great at any specific thing.
@@MK4vDubbin It's kinda like "Oh hey we want to make a strat but make it Ibanez" And so it becomes either an underwhelming SA series or an underwhelming RG series. Pretty sure it sounds good, I just am not a big fan of the aesthetics
Bought a used Schecter to start learning guitar and absolutely love it. It's more entry-level than this one, Darrell, but the things looks fantastic.
Getting the Schecter Synester Gates Custom next month🖤🤘💪🔥💀🦇
I hear both companies produce reasonably high quality products
Ibanez used to make very reasonable priced,high-end guitars Made in Japan.
Sadly it has become so expensive to make guitars in Japan nowadays,MIJ guitars are as expensive as Made in USA models in some cases.Their import series like the ''Premiums'' (Made in Indonesia) are hit or miss,I've seen some which were great and some with horrible fretwork or finishing flaws.Their necks are also an aquired taste,they're build for superfast playing and have very flat fretboards,that's why they're so popular among shred-players,but for rythm stuff and chords they're not so good.
Schecter's import series,specially the more high-end models made in S.Korea are absolute value for money,same with the Made in Indonesia series. They have either brandname pickups like these Fishman Fluence here or EMG's or Schecter's own,Made in USA passive pickups.(Keep in mind,Schecter was originally a pickup company,so their stock pickups are top.) Their fretwork, necks and neckjoints are great,many models have compound radius fretboards (wider up the neck,flatter the more you go down) and ss-frets,which makes their playabillity superb.
What makes them also very attractive,they offer fixed bridge and Floyd Rose for most models and also every model is available as a lefthanded version.
Another great alternative,for rock/metal,are the Charvel Pro Mod Series.
I've bought like 3 schecters in the past few years and they have all been fantastic
‘S’ series by Ibanez is a TONE Monster!
In the tone matchup, I preferred the tone of the Schecter. Sounds fuller like a LP, the Ibanez more like the Strat, a little on the twangy side.. Each have their place.. Although I don't like the battery aspect of the Fischmans. I am with you on your verdict.. Half the price for comparable fiddles is a winner every time... Thanks for the comparison...
As I am looking for a new guitar, I love these comparison. But here you did perfect choosing. The 2 guitars you showed are the two who got me the most trigerd. Gotta check them both out.
Even trough my phonespeakers your sound has improved. Good work, congrats on your new studio!
I find the Schecter Ultra Thin C neck profile the perfect neck size and style for my hands. Big fan of Schecter
Ive never been much of an S series guy but it sounds way more open and vocal to me.
Always loved Ibanez BUT, I would take the Shecter and put the Dimarzios in it.
I'd put Duncs in, Dimarzios always sound like a Casio keyboard to me.
@@blackie75 I do like me some Seymour Duncan’s,, probably the best idea..
that song you played with both of the guitars sound so good
The convenience of the carousel truss rode adjustment alone on the Schecter wins it for me.
Great review , i have said this before, a pro player can take a new $1000 Schecter out of the box and tour consistently with it with no issues. So a $500 Schecter is also a great guitar coming with pro stuff , grovers, graphite nut, exc..... they are a "players guitar" .
SchecterLife🤘
One of my guitars is a reissue C-1 Classic neckthru, w/ Ducan JB and Jazz pups, beautiful amber quilted maple top, rosewood fretboard, extra jumbo frets with a vine inlay that goes all along the neck. Originally I purchased a 2008 model and had it for good number of years. I could never quite get the intonation as perfect as I thought it should be. About 6 years ago I contacted Schecter and explained what was happening, and asked if there was a fix they could do, because to me it looked like the saddle bridge was not place quite right. I was amazed, and greatly impressed that the rep asked me to send my C-1 in, so that they tech department could take a look at. I said, no problem. I sent it to them. I got a call from them a couple days after the confirmed delivery. The rep told me that the bridge was indeed not place correctly when it was made, and that that is a factory defect. The amazing part? Their amazing warranty. The rep offered me a brand new C-1. However, he explained that my version of the C-1 had been discontinued, but they reissued that guitar, and the only difference is that the new version has an abalone vine inlay instead of the older pearl inlay. No problem I said, I'll take it. They shipped a brand new C-1 and case, and it played and sounded fantastic just like the original. Back in 2008 IIRC the list price was around $800, and I paid around $600. I think Schecter no longer make the C-1 Classic. I'm keeping mine cause it is a fantastic guitar that I use for my Humbucker tones, and it's infinitely better feeling and playing than a 2015 Gibson Les Paul Standard I bought back then. Yes, my C-1 is a better guitar than the LP Standard. The LP looks awesome as it's a classic guitar, but for playability the C-1 wins hands down. Tones are very close, player's choice. I like them both.
Re binding. The neck binding is a highlight the body binding is more at a level with the lower neck the cream binding may be more to tie in with the wood on the neck than the binding on it as it's visually on the same level. That might explain it.
I just love the way you play that Ibanez..Amazing.
Like the sound of passive pu's more than active
Theronimus the Fishman modern fluence one the schecter has passive voicings for each pup. Push pull
@@Lukejmts1 best of both worlds.
Metallica man
Great video Darrell! I've gone back and forth for 6 mos about the guitar I want to buy. Your first video on the Schecter pretty much won me over and this comparison was the nail in the coffin. Thanks so much man!!
The neck through sells me on the schecter. These guitars are meant for rock and soloing up on those frets, so that’s the biggest thing imo.
The Ibanez is so beautiful !
Beautiful guitars! They sound almost identical. Love the thin/light body of the S-series - just so comfortable!
I love the stain work on the Schecter. It really stands out.
I've just bought an entry-level Ibanez S series as my first triple-figure guitar since I only really just jam by myself at home and it's incredible. So diverse with the right reverb, drive and distortion pedals and god it's comfortable and beautiful
That's me too, just a bedroom player. I've been really eyeing the S series for awhile now, it's going to be my first triple figure as well.
Me three
I agree, my gf bought an Ibanez S501 for me and it is a great guitar.
Hey Darrell, i think both "beasts" are realy excellent and fantastic electric guitars, can´t say which one i would to buy !!! very difficult !! thanks for the introdution !!!
The Saber has a much more open and singing tone in my ears.
I just bought a Vintage White Demon 7 over the summer, and the amount of love you continuously give Schecter makes me so glad I picked them for the very first electric guitar AND 7 string that I've purchased as an independent adult!
I still am faced with the arduous task of learning to play the thing well, but it is a joy to struggle along with this instrument. I'd really love to see you do a deep dive on the Demon 7, as I've not found many creators covering it, at least not with the quality or expertise that you bring to the table. Thank you for all you do, Darrell!
Regarding Binding: Presumably the white binding on the neck is to provide higher contrast with the dots, which can be issue under some conditions (speaking from experience). I assume the cream color on the body is because it looks better there... This makes sense to me, functionality where you need it, cosmetic where it does not compromise function.
I prefer the Ibanez for the passive pickups. Although, I started playing two years before the Jem was released so hearing that combination referred to as traditional, makes me feel really old lol. Btw, thank you for mentioning the weight of the guitars. I'm in a wheelchair so weight is very important to me and it's a spec that doesn't get mentioned very often.
Yeah same here I feel old having it called a traditional sound I personally like the thinner sound of the Ibanez, to me that means clarity and the chunkiness of the schecter to me sounds like impeeding how long it could hold a note and there's not a lot of room to improve tone if you like fast metal like me. Some people like that me personally no thanks Ibanez all the way
I bought my schecter hellraiser 2 years ago and it is definitely my go to. Excellent Bang for the buck especially with the Floyd and sustainiac. It's way better than I am.
How about Schecter Omen Extreme 6 - See Through Black?whats ur opinion?
Looks awesome . I like the cream binding and inlay Design. And I'm sure plays well,
ive had my schecter c-1 E/A for about ten years and can still remember the day i picked it up. the second i held it and played it i knew i was dealing with something that far exceeded anything in its immediate price range. ive owned literally about 40 guitars and many have come and gone over the years. i currently own about 12. some are fenders, some are jackson and ibanez, gretsch. and the schecter still hasnt been beaten. schecters at the 600-1200 dollar ranges will almost always play and feel like something double its price.
Nice review, I own both a couple Ibanez and a Schecter. I'm a Lefty, not a lot to chose from. My Schecter is the Avenger with EMG active pickups 81/85 (Vito Bratta, Zak Wylde) Love it, different sound , great construction. Its just different than my Jems and RG, both the Avenger and Jems are in my top choice of my collection.
Jeff Alfred I believe you mean EMG pickups. Sounds like an awesome guitar man!
@@colonelangus3826 Correct, my bad, pain meds are to blame lol
Excellent reviews impressed with both of them. I would buy the Shecter
BEAUTIFUL playing, especially with the backing track. Very nice. I've been curious about Fishman having just heard of them a couple months ago, that was a perfect comparison for me. I have four Schectors and they indeed are awesome for their price, even the C-6 series is very well built. Curious, what strings were on each guitar for this demo?
you know its the future when the Ibanez sound is described as a classic tone
Thanks for the great video. I have this Schecter on layaway now!
My schector hellraiser with sustainiac is a beast and I love it
Same!
Great video, Darrell!
Schecter. Never played one but the top was amazing.
Peace and Love
the maple top on that schecter is one of the best ive seen on the C-1 models
I have both of those guitars. Both awsome man.
Nice guitars.. but volume knob so close to the pickup would annoy me to death.
Right? To me that's the worst thing about Strats and super-strats that dates back to Eddie's home-made super-S. That damn knob under my hand when I palm mute. I have big hands, always bumping volume knob or the selector. John Petrucci did it perfectly when he designed his MM, the knobs are JUST out of range of the sweep of my knuckles. Besides, if I want volume swells, I have a volume pedal.
This happens to me on my tele
Thats my biggest annoyance about ibanez’s!
That dual guitar demo was too short. 😁
It was pretty sick. Mimicked the Vai note choice really well I thought.
I absolutely love that ballad. Wow
The versatility in the Fishmans is unmatched imo.
I'm an Ibanez fanboy. My prestige RG is my favorite guitar. Everytime I pick it up it just oozes quality. But that's me... Great comparison!
@cloud chaser
Well one is half the price of the other one...
I've bought both brands and at least for the guitars I bought the Ibanez has far better quality. The Schechter is more visually appealing but I had to have the frets dressed, reseated.
I had a Prestige and it was absolutely awesome. But I had a Schecter that was awesome. Both are great. My choice goes with my Schecter! Getting ready to order another C-1 . Love them!
Thanks for making this video. The detail you went into for each guitar is exactly what I look for in a gear demo.
I disagree. I think the Ibanez guitar is distracting from that gorgeous pickup selector.
Is it a 5 positions switch, so you can coil split the humbuckers?
That piece deserves to be in a museum of guitar history as the component that was so beautiful the rest of the guitar only reduced it's splendour. Even a koa top would not do justice to it.
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Ok. Being a Ibanez lover I must pick the Schecter. I don't care for the "S" saber series Ibanez guitars. I always go for the Ibanez RG guitars. I've never really cared for Schecter guitars but in this case the Schecter definately wins. If it were against a RG and a tremolo was in play the Ibanez would win. Ibanez edge style tremolo systems are the best double locking trems in my opnion.
Thanks for this video.
If money object or no object... I would choose the Schecter. I love the Ibanez guitars (I also have few), but this Schecter is beautiful and flawless.
I have a Korean Shecter Hellraiser C1 Diamond Series. An Amazing Guitar. Set Neck, EMGs, Awesome locking tuners. Got it used on Reverb. $450
I personally own an Ibanez and it's my favourite guitar. Great tone and great diversity
Active pickups always sound a little deader to me. Pedals tend to make any guitar sound like the pedal.
Just like strings make any guitar sound like the strings? sad.
@@levgtz8158 : Peddles completely reshape the sound. Strings aren't so extreme. So no.
I own an S Series Ibanez with a flame Maple top and I tell you this one of my best guitars
Interesting and Great Vid! Put my best headphones on through DAC to here these, the BlueTooth laptop speakers weren't cuttin it. Have to say things always sound different between being Live and once Recorded. Listened a few times and concluded the Fishman's sounded better, more defined across the board. Chords were terrific, able to hear each string and nothing getting lost. Still the Dimarzio's have that tone so familiar, it feels like home. Reason I was surprised and had to listen a few times, was hard not to be prejudiced by something one knows well (Ibanez/Dimarzio Combo).
Never owned a Schecter, came close but always decide on something else. Sounds odd but always got this voice in my head saying "Really good parts, feels good, looks good, sounds good ..... Why so cheap compared to _________", as if there had to be something wrong. Yup Crazy! This Video may have Sold me on one. That's one heck of a guitar, prefer the neck and body over the thinner Ibanez. too. Very Sweet Guitar!!
The Ibanez is stunning from the front! Anyone know if it is a Laminate top or an actual hunk of quilted Maple? Tis gorgeous!!. As far as the question of White binding on the neck whereas the body it cream. Simple answer, COST. Can make a pile of necks and all can be put of various coloured bodies with white neck binding, cheaper overall as production doesn't have to stop and change colours (also white is a fractionally cheaper too when purchased in HUGE quantities. Plus it can be an extra bonus having colour matched binding only on a Custom Shop Model.
Really good Vid Darrell. Both guitars were shown very well. The Nut on the Shecter is an Ernie Ball Compensated Nut, found it on a spec sheet. Guess that one is a draw.
Put those DiMarzio pickups in the Schecter and I'm all over that bad boy. Excellent video!
you gave the fret win to ibanez over the schecter with stainless steel? come on Darrell!!... oversight. Thats a huge benefit at a discounted price.
This has to be the most difficult comparison you ever come up with man
The only things that matters in the end are: Amp, Cab and Hands. Guitars are just signal senders, there is no any difference in sound between those two. Appearance, comfort yes. Any effects on sound ( No). Buy good cab, good amp. Take a piece of wood with pick-ups and strings , and it will sound good.