Done all that jobs when I was onboard. It all seems hard and tough work but with great planning and team work, this can be done with ease and productive result.
You guys have it easy, relatively. In shipyards where I work we chip and paint the bilges. Down to clean bare metal, we do a sspc1, sspc2, sspc3, and sspc11. Then a sspc10 on the sspc11 area. Very meticulous, very time consuming. Work in the bilges is extremely cramped, dark and dusty, often you have to squeeze through pipes or pipe hangers to do a job. Working the weather deck is a cake walk in compression.
@@Nibiru2012ishere My old company purchased a huge machine which use water and air pressure to wash away rust and metal blisters. It could cover huge area but it is really heavy with the gun sprayer buckled on your waist. It was a German made machine called "Hammelmann"
I honestly didn't realize something as simple as painting could be so extensive and time consuming. You guys have to deconstruct the outer most layer of the ship, then add it all back, which takes time and tons of physical effort. I figured you just painted over it, such as with walls. Thanks for the informative video and changing my views on how some industries have to do normally simple tasks in a much more careful and hands on way. You guys rock!
I'm the 2nd year at a Nautical school in Bakar, Croatia, we chip and paint the wrench for lowering lifeboats, we never got to use any tools but a hammer and a thing that you didn't even show beacuse its probably very outdated, thanks for the great content you provide, i learnd so much from you Jeffm
Chipping and painting, I remember it well from my first trip at sea in 1967! It was said "Six days though should work and do all that you are able. The seventh day Holy Stone the deck and paint and chip the cable"
For a perfect job, we do a bit differently. First chip, making sure any black rust is gone. Then we brush it with a grinder, then sweep off any remaining dust. If we leave old paint, we make sure to brush its edges smoth. After that, we soak it in rust wash (unitor metal brite), after that has dried we wash the remains off with a rag and paint thinner. Then comes the normal steps of primer (one layer of one color, another with another color) and lastly two layers of paint. That lasts for years.
@JeffHK- chipping and painting was a frequent conversation in my parent's house. Dad was a Bosun in the Merchant Marines. At home, Dad kept me occupied painting and keeping the house "ship shape". Although Bosun drove me to the brink of insanity with his goal to keep things tidy; I went on to study Art History and Studio Art with a focus on sculpture, photography, and (yes) painting. Thank you for this video.
2:20 whenever possible, don't use a wire wheel. A high speed ejection of a wire to the eye will result in the loss of that eye, every time. Also wire wheel removal of paint will cause toxic fumes that smell bad. This information is from the insurance underwriters of steel fabrication and welding shops in the US (the only people who seem to care). Thanks Jeff, I always like your videos.
Thats why l sold my steel sailboat , to much work But if there is a crew which does the maintaning , boating is nice . I spend 1 year of my live at sea on different sailboats and l loved it .
In order to have positive and lasting results, crewmembers should sweep all the surface in order to remove all solid particles. The area to be painted must be free of old rusty parts to prevent corrosion and as flat and smooth as possible. These surface conditions are obtained by working with some deck pneumatic tools, such as jet chisels, derusting brushes, among others. After making the surface flat and smooth, using the mentioned tools; the area has to be swept again to remove all solid residues and washed thoroughly using suitable detergents in order to remove potential amounts of grease and oil, which affect the effectiveness of paints. Before applying the first coating; the complete area must be well dried and isolated, so that all crewmembers passing by can be alert that fresh paints are nearby. :) Extra info for this amazing video. Greetings
JeffHK Really? I think its relaxing. Mostlly when you do that you have a lot of time on you so you just calmly get the area to look nicer and nicer. The results is the best part ofcause. And ofcause onboard i never tell anyone that i like to paint and chip, because in that case i would never get to do anything else :p
I just want to ask if what painting equipment is not used to apply primer because it produces unvenen layer and it is time consuming? Choices: Brush, Rollers, Airless Spray, Spatula
So, are you guys on the maintenance crew and is prep work, painting all you do? Do you guys do any sand blasting on board or just power by tool clean and hand clean? Good video. Thanks
The painting is a key element in the maintenance of the ships that will help us to restore them and rehabilitate them. Probably one of the most laborious tasks but cleaning the structure, polishing it and painting it, will undoubtedly favor the performance of the ship. Depending on the need and use of the vessel, you must choose which type of paint will be the most appropriate. The types of paint that are most used are: Synthetic, chlorinated rubber, bituminous, epoxy, polyurethanes and antifouling. Also, in the market there is a wide range of products to meet the needs of each. To choose the appropriate ones we must take into account: What material is the structure or area to be painted made of? Is it a painting for new work, maintenance or repair? If it is maintenance or repair, with which paintings is the boat painted? Do we require a high performance or conventional scheme? With which tools can / should I work? Once you have answered these questions it will be easy to choose the system and the types of products that are most convenient to extend or improve the conditions of the vessel.
Hi, I am from Yemen, I have a lot of experience in the process of protective paints, epoxy coatings used in the maintenance of giant ships, oil and iron tanks to prevent corrosion from rust and erosion factors. Is there a job?
Jeff the presentation is good.......No sought........But can you please let me know what is the thumb rule for calculating the paint required for the paint pf a unit area?
Remarks: wire brush makes the surface smooth not rough which is not what we want before painting! Application by roller is good but can not get the correct DFT.
Hello, great video, actually I had a few doubts related to this topic, first of all, the type of paint, besides the fact that has to be corrosive resistant is it regulated somehow (colour, chemical components)? Is that mentioned in a Convention or Code? I always questioned myself this because I’ve seen ships with pipelines dedicated to an specific system with different colors (i.e. ballast or fuel) depending on the ship, and I wanted to know if it’s standardized somehow, as far as I know at some point cadets also have to do this labour, I can’t wait!
Miguel Rodríguez González I don’t think there’s specific regulation on what color paint has to be, I know certain things have to be a color tho, like lifeboats are orange and fire lines/hydrants are red on American ships
I'm not specific to ships, but, in an industrial setting it's called " color coding". There are standards that say what type of say pipelines will be painted what color for easy I.d., gas lines a certain color, etc, similiar to other areas, hand rails painted yellow, etc..
Do you have any idea how long the new coatings last before it needs another chipping, sanding and paint application...? Do the new paint, coatings give the steel a longer life.?
nzspeedwayfan I'm not sure for a ship but I was in plant maintenance. In a plant it's 1-2 years and as needed for a new coat. The paint acts as a protective barrier to prevent the steel from oxidizing and rusting. Rust causes steel to become brittle and get weaker. So keeping paint allows the steel to stay stronger longer by preventing rust. Hope this is helps.
Hello i am a deck cadet from venezuela and it's interesting know how the maintenance procedures are onboard , however i have some questions, how often the maintenance is done? do the officers do this type of duties or only the unlicensed crew members? PD: i found it curious that the equipment used is pneumatic instead electrical.
great overview, has anyone used a Pneumatic Triplex Scaler to remove rust? If so ear protection is a must, what db noise level can a person be exposed to?
Nice and interesting video! But I have a question, what do you have for plan if it starts to rain while you are painting? I mean, rain on fresh paint isn't that funny
I've seen a job posting that says wages start at $44/hr for a beginner, so I'm imagining the cost is extremely high. Looks like really physically demanding work though, I wouldnt do that for less than that wage.
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Done all that jobs when I was onboard. It all seems hard and tough work but with great planning and team work, this can be done with ease and productive result.
True life of a deckhand. The clock goes so slow, you swear its going backwards!😄
Chipping is quite a task! The chipping hammer and muscles.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us. New subscriber from Kenya🇰🇪
You guys have it easy, relatively.
In shipyards where I work we chip and paint the bilges. Down to clean bare metal, we do a sspc1, sspc2, sspc3, and sspc11.
Then a sspc10 on the sspc11 area.
Very meticulous, very time consuming. Work in the bilges is extremely cramped, dark and dusty, often you have to squeeze through pipes or pipe hangers to do a job.
Working the weather deck is a cake walk in compression.
I legit have nightmares about bilges sometimes. So fucking dark
@peugot905 you have it easy, i have it twice as hard
your vlog is very informative and also entertaining, i noticed that you are getting lots of subscriptions so congratulation.
100% ACK. Another fun video from my favorite mariner! Keep them coming. We keep on looking.
Thanks!
JeffHK they should use laser ablation on this....
@@Nibiru2012ishere My old company purchased a huge machine which use water and air pressure to wash away rust and metal blisters. It could cover huge area but it is really heavy with the gun sprayer buckled on your waist. It was a German made machine called "Hammelmann"
I honestly didn't realize something as simple as painting could be so extensive and time consuming. You guys have to deconstruct the outer most layer of the ship, then add it all back, which takes time and tons of physical effort. I figured you just painted over it, such as with walls. Thanks for the informative video and changing my views on how some industries have to do normally simple tasks in a much more careful and hands on way. You guys rock!
US Navy vet and first year Cadet at Great Lakes Maritime. Thought my love affair with chipping and painting was over! Not quite. :)
Never liked chipping, but i can paint all day!
+JeffHK I love chipping everytime i see a rust that is like 2mm thick 😄
As a "non-rated" seaman in the Navy, I was the 1st one hanging over the side, on a boatswain chair or a boatswain stage! hated it!! (ret. MS1)
Accustomed to your Love chipping is super satisfying, just something about the rust melting away under the tool that relaxes you
Haha, yeah I know what you mean, even out of the Academy, chipping and painting is what we do most of the season.
I really liked the video, you explained chipping and painting VERY well.
I'm the 2nd year at a Nautical school in Bakar, Croatia, we chip and paint the wrench for lowering lifeboats, we never got to use any tools but a hammer and a thing that you didn't even show beacuse its probably very outdated, thanks for the great content you provide, i learnd so much from you Jeffm
How many years do you have
You never cease to amaze. You can make an interesting video even of the most mundane task!
Thank you for this information you have provided, it was really helpful, it helped me to know how chipping and painting on ships are
Chipping and painting, I remember it well from my first trip at sea in 1967!
It was said "Six days though should work and do all that you are able. The seventh day Holy Stone the deck and paint and chip the cable"
For a perfect job, we do a bit differently. First chip, making sure any black rust is gone. Then we brush it with a grinder, then sweep off any remaining dust. If we leave old paint, we make sure to brush its edges smoth. After that, we soak it in rust wash (unitor metal brite), after that has dried we wash the remains off with a rag and paint thinner. Then comes the normal steps of primer (one layer of one color, another with another color) and lastly two layers of paint. That lasts for years.
Your video was so cool for real for real, no cizzy cap home slice
I love that pure Canadian accent, Jeff and Yazad.
Great informational video. Looks like fun
They did really nice job, keeping the OOCL Atlanta looking like new.
@JeffHK- chipping and painting was a frequent conversation in my parent's house. Dad was a Bosun in the Merchant Marines. At home, Dad kept me occupied painting and keeping the house "ship shape". Although Bosun drove me to the brink of insanity with his goal to keep things tidy; I went on to study Art History and Studio Art with a focus on sculpture, photography, and (yes) painting. Thank you for this video.
This is really cool, thank you for the information! -Daina White, JA
Love chipping and painting whit a good audiobook on.
idol jeffhk....you're such an inspiration for us....pls don't be surfeit to upload more videos....more power and godbless bro.....
Thank you for your vlogs! I've never seen videos as helpful and informative as this. Congratulations!
Interesting video on ship chipping and painting.
Thanks for the educational video. It was clear and simple. Very well edited and explained. You've earned my subscription.
1:39 hahah Jeff I loved the little emoji in the bottom right corner xD
+Kentucky Fried Chicken :D
Trying to sleep after a long night of work. AB day man "let me play you the song of my people"
Honestly this is really interesting. I've always wondered about how this is done and you of course did an excellent job with your video making skills.
Here I am at NY maritime, where paint is the only thing holding our old-ass training ship together
excellent job painting. always take pride in your work
Wait! I thought MSDS stood for “my shit don’t stink”
Learn something every day.
I love painting, the chipping and vibration gives me fatigue. But painting is so satisfying
I always love your information and i must say i'm learning everyday
I really enjoyed this and answered my questions
2:20 whenever possible, don't use a wire wheel. A high speed ejection of a wire to the eye will result in the loss of that eye, every time.
Also wire wheel removal of paint will cause toxic fumes that smell bad.
This information is from the insurance underwriters of steel fabrication and welding shops in the US (the only people who seem to care).
Thanks Jeff, I always like your videos.
Hence why they are wearing both safety goggles and masks.
They’re wearing safety goggles and a respirator…….
这一期的视频很棒，海员在船上的工作还是很辛苦的，为你们点赞，上周在上海看到你们东方海外的董建成主席了
+Rothschild Zhang 謝謝:],也麻煩你幫我放到國內網上. youku 跟tengxun 搞不懂😅
好的，我们有一个微信公共号叫：SEAWAYMARITIME，下次如果您再录影的话，可以帮我们写个卡片也加进去吗？
Your vlog is very informative....I just have one request....Do make a vlog on stenciling...soon
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Hard work fascinates me , I could watch it all day !!!
:-)
Yay!!!!!!! I've been waiting Jeff!!! abso luv these vids you make!!
+MRKRG9 thanks again for the support!
dude, thanks for sharing your killer tome with us, how cool
Thats why l sold my steel sailboat , to much work
But if there is a crew which does the maintaning , boating is nice .
I spend 1 year of my live at sea on different sailboats and l loved it .
Chipping and painting: a job that never begins or ends, it just is.
Chipping and Painting... the never ending story... :D Nice Vid, by the way are you able to upload onboard or only ashore ?
+mytotalcollapse ashore :( at colombo atm
+mytotalcollapse ashore :( at colombo atm
In order to have positive and lasting results, crewmembers should sweep all the surface in order to remove all solid particles. The area to be painted must be free of old rusty parts to prevent corrosion and as flat and smooth as possible. These surface conditions are obtained by working with some deck pneumatic tools, such as jet chisels, derusting brushes, among others. After making the surface flat and smooth, using the mentioned tools; the area has to be swept again to remove all solid residues and washed thoroughly using suitable detergents in order to remove potential amounts of grease and oil, which affect the effectiveness of paints. Before applying the first coating; the complete area must be well dried and isolated, so that all crewmembers passing by can be alert that fresh paints are nearby. :) Extra info for this amazing video. Greetings
A huge work . How often on most exposed parts ? Thanks that is informative, and fun
Great presentation Jeff, The Maritime class at CTHS say's they can't wait to chip and paint!
+Cecil Gray thanks! not necessarily fun task though hahaha, i do enjoy painting, chipping... not so much
JeffHK Really? I think its relaxing. Mostlly when you do that you have a lot of time on you so you just calmly get the area to look nicer and nicer. The results is the best part ofcause. And ofcause onboard i never tell anyone that i like to paint and chip, because in that case i would never get to do anything else :p
How often do you "swab the deck"?
Ship maintenance seems like very interesting work, are there any other maritime jobs like maintaining the coat of paint?
Hey Jeff,
i want to ask, if it is possible, that you make a video about the hole engine room and explain everything.
+felix kalich i will try, will need help of an engineer
Very good video!thank you
great video I love you video thank you so much!
Nice video. You forgot to apply metalbrite or similar chemical to bare metal before painting. We usually do that.
Sadly have a CB that loves to chip and grind then not cover for the night. Rework is becoming the most painful thing ever.
great video
Thanks for the good video
cool to know!
I liked it...
Hard work on board!
I just want to ask if what painting equipment is not used to apply primer because it produces unvenen layer and it is time consuming? Choices: Brush, Rollers, Airless Spray, Spatula
So, are you guys on the maintenance crew and is prep work, painting all you do? Do you guys do any sand blasting on board or just power by tool clean and hand clean? Good video. Thanks
The painting is a key element in the maintenance of the ships that will help us to restore them and rehabilitate them. Probably one of the most laborious tasks but cleaning the structure, polishing it and painting it, will undoubtedly favor the performance of the ship.
Depending on the need and use of the vessel, you must choose which type of paint will be the most appropriate. The types of paint that are most used are:
Synthetic, chlorinated rubber, bituminous, epoxy, polyurethanes and antifouling.
Also, in the market there is a wide range of products to meet the needs of each. To choose the appropriate ones we must take into account:
What material is the structure or area to be painted made of?
Is it a painting for new work, maintenance or repair?
If it is maintenance or repair, with which paintings is the boat painted?
Do we require a high performance or conventional scheme?
With which tools can / should I work?
Once you have answered these questions it will be easy to choose the system and the types of products that are most convenient to extend or improve the conditions of the vessel.
Hi, I am from Yemen, I have a lot of experience in the process of protective paints, epoxy coatings used in the maintenance of giant ships, oil and iron tanks to prevent corrosion from rust and erosion factors. Is there a job?
Nice video again! keep it up!
Needle gun , heavy but satisfying work..
Nice videos.
FYI MSDS is now SDS. Same info, one less word in the title.
Is that true everywhere, or just USA?
Thanks for the video....................................... & THUMBS UP :D
hahha coool.... waited so long for this 😂
Jeff the presentation is good.......No sought........But can you please let me know what is the thumb rule for calculating the paint required for the paint pf a unit area?
great great video! keep up!
Remarks: wire brush makes the surface smooth not rough which is not what we want before painting! Application by roller is good but can not get the correct DFT.
I'm thankful to you for videos, you help me. I'm studing in Kherson Maritime Acadamy we pass this topic now. Write me bro
Hello, great video, actually I had a few doubts related to this topic, first of all, the type of paint, besides the fact that has to be corrosive resistant is it regulated somehow (colour, chemical components)? Is that mentioned in a Convention or Code? I always questioned myself this because I’ve seen ships with pipelines dedicated to an specific system with different colors (i.e. ballast or fuel) depending on the ship, and I wanted to know if it’s standardized somehow, as far as I know at some point cadets also have to do this labour, I can’t wait!
Miguel Rodríguez González I don’t think there’s specific regulation on what color paint has to be, I know certain things have to be a color tho, like lifeboats are orange and fire lines/hydrants are red on American ships
I'm not specific to ships, but, in an industrial setting it's called " color coding". There are standards that say what type of say pipelines will be painted what color for easy I.d., gas lines a certain color, etc, similiar to other areas, hand rails painted yellow, etc..
i like your videos
Do you have any idea how long the new coatings last before it needs another chipping, sanding and paint application...? Do the new paint, coatings give the steel a longer life.?
nzspeedwayfan I'm not sure for a ship but I was in plant maintenance. In a plant it's 1-2 years and as needed for a new coat. The paint acts as a protective barrier to prevent the steel from oxidizing and rusting. Rust causes steel to become brittle and get weaker. So keeping paint allows the steel to stay stronger longer by preventing rust. Hope this is helps.
Can you make a video about the cargo operation at the Terminal?
Do the painters wear a sort of protective face mask to avoid the toxicity of the paint?
Damn, I thought this would be done in the shipyard by the shipyard stuff. Never knew this was part of ur jobscope. How often is this done ?
What we learn from you!
Hello i am a deck cadet from venezuela and it's interesting know how the maintenance procedures are onboard , however i have some questions, how often the maintenance is done? do the officers do this type of duties or only the unlicensed crew members? PD: i found it curious that the equipment used is pneumatic instead electrical.
I used chipping hammer, my muscles get tired soon. Chipping gun and buffing machine is best.
1:05 smooth 🥴
Ayyy I'm from Canada
+Ocean MC ayyyy
Nice vid. So helpful 👌.
That pneumatic hammer screams white finger at me!
great overview, has anyone used a Pneumatic Triplex Scaler to remove rust? If so ear protection is a must, what db noise level can a person be exposed to?
Nice and interesting video! But I have a question, what do you have for plan if it starts to rain while you are painting? I mean, rain on fresh paint isn't that funny
how often does a ship need repainting ??
Why don't you use something like a battery powered angle grinder to remove rust?
Hempel paint= the best
Thnq very much sir....👍👍
In Germany we don't das brush, we say Kuttenlecker and i think it's beautyful
What happens to the all the rust chips after they are removed? Do you store them on the ship or are they thrown overboard?
JDobsable thrown overboard. It doesn't float
So yall do various type of work?
Hey Jeff, great video, keep them coming. Do you guys ever use sealer on bare metal prior to start with the primer?
Seems like a very labour intensive procedure. How much does it cost for a big ship in total? How much of that is labour and how much is material cost?
I've seen a job posting that says wages start at $44/hr for a beginner, so I'm imagining the cost is extremely high. Looks like really physically demanding work though, I wouldnt do that for less than that wage.
How many hours do you work per day and do you have days off on the boat
A Royal Canadian Air Cadet Flight Sargent doing an into for a mariner? How scandalous! 😜
Why not sand blasting? Would be a lot quicker & thorough.
It makes a huge mess and the equipment takes up allot of space in a ship
I wonder how many tons of metal is chipped away as rust during a ship's service time
Do you have any tips on feathering out paint?
Great video! Love watching these. Any chance you can share song name ?
In the Canadian Navy we just paint over the rust...I wonder why our ships keep failing