Don’t Be a Baby and Keep Making Your Art - Jerry Saltz - The Art2Life Podcast Episode 54
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Art2Life.com - Making art is hard enough, but hearing from others whether it is good or not is especially so. Every artist I know already has, hard-wired within them, a pretty tough critic. I certainly do. So I never have been particularly drawn to listening to more of them. I know, of course, art criticism is essential in the art world. I get all that, but truthfully, I have always been a little leery of outside criticism in case it made me stop making art. It feels safer to hear more from those who are actually making art. They were the ones I thought whose voices mattered. At least for me.
But today you are going to meet an art critic. But not the kind I imagined. Not at all. His name is Jerry Saltz. He is the Pulitzer Prize-winning, senior art critic and columnist for New York Magazine. He has a bajillion followers on Instagram and is a New York Times bestselling author. He also cares a ton about art and especially artists. Which isn’t surprising because he was one. He switched mid-career because, ironically, his inner critic wouldn’t leave him alone, and it all became too much.
Jerry is whip-smart, funny, and at times, daringly truthful. But this is what I love about him: he just tells the truth. Or rather his truth. That is rare these days. Jerry is the artist's art critic. He is so on our side and wants nothing more for us than to simply stay together and above all else, to keep making our art. Join me now for this startlingly vulnerable and caring conversation about art and life with one of the most revered voices in the art world: Jerry Saltz.
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LISTEN IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN…
How Jerry became a bestselling author and why you need to read his books [3:19]
Becoming a different kind of artist and recognizing the respect in art criticism [15:05]
Why artists need one another [25:48]
Making an enemy of envy and why we need to just keep making our art [32:01]
Where Jerry feels the art world is heading [39:15]
Jerry’s advice for artists when they receive criticism and the time Jerry criticized my work [46:47]
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i run the risk of not making art because i'm watching videos to inspire myself to make art
ha ha ha ha ha. so true
truth
So, you’re a fake artist? 😂
Haha hear hear
Truth!
I laughed out loud to, "Finish the damn thing!" I cannot wait to buy the book! Thank you for a great conversation, both Jerry and Nick! Thank you
I'm so glad Jerry Saltz is 'bashful' - can you imagine if he was an extrovert?!! One of the best interviews ever.
Hahaha...truth!
So true, there is something refreshing about his gruffness. Is there the right word.
This couldn't have been more perfectly timed for me. I was listening to you both as I was painting a large piece of crapstraction. The message to "just keep working" and to "keep making art even if it's bad" forced me to keep my brush in my hand. Thank you for all you do to keep artists effecting on their own behalf. I look forward to buying Jerry's book.
First time I actually laughed during a podcast. Thanks for bringing Jerry to me. 😂 trying to not be a fucking baby everyday 👍
This resonated with me more than I thought. I listened to it again. . . the inner demons are real. I have been withdrawing for a while now. Get on with it! Time to make some bad art and share it with another artist. "You must commune with your own kind." "Finish the dam thing!" "We need to take the money." "Two pandemics." So many gems in Art Is Life.
OMG thank you ever so much for ALL that you do for all of us artists out here. I was ushered into the art world at the age of 59 and am now 64 seemingly this is what I need to know myself...etc... I appreciate you here on TH-cam more than you know! Keep it coming!
Danita in Bend Oregon
They can’t make money selling art, so they’re gossiping around the art topic instead. If they were real artists, they’d be painting. Not wasting time on gossip about art hobby. Art is NOT a business and people don’t buy original art. They’re BROKE. That’s why you can only make money gossiping about art, but not by actually being an artist. Be careful who you follow! If you didn’t make a liveable income from art after 2-3 years of watching these garbage videos, YOU are the customer (watching ads). Don’t waste your time on these fakers. Get a job to support your art hobby and stop watching this сrар 😂
The most energized I’ve been in a long time. Thank you Jerry for your honesty, eloquence, truth-teller. Ultimately, this is so exciting to be an artist.
What a refreshing interview! I love that Jerry doesn't take himself so serious and encourages us to get on with it, no matter what. What an inspiration! Loved this!!!!
What a hoot! Thanks, Jerry, for injecting sexiness and irreverence into this big old art pie. And thanks, Nick, for making it happen. I am off to buy the book.
Listening to Jerry’s grace-filled words is always so affirming.
The most fun I've had in a long time. GREAT interview! Long live you and Jerry!
What a great podcast. So direct and funny and eye opening!
Yes...just fucking keep on keeping on. Laughed and loved Jerry's honest, raw take on the art world through his eyes. Right on 👍
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Wow. What an incredible conversation. So many pearls of wisdom. Jerry, thanks for your vulnerable, honest, and utterly disarming interview. Thanks, Nicholas, for this fantastic interview!
Had a coupla good chuckles here!😂😂😂 … yeah… Become that fricken genius, warts and all !!!
As Nick always says… in 100 years, the entire audience has changed! ThanQ for this podcast, Nick and Jerry.
Enjoyed whole podcast …will also recommend Jerry and Sharon Stone’s talk at vulture Festival 2023 …Very interesting…
Raw, honest and I love it!
Great book. Thank you Jerry. We love you. And thanks to Art2Life
An amazing & valuable listen …amusing & thought provoking. Now I need to get Jerry’s book !
Thank you!!!! we need this, you and Jerry
Agreed. Mediocrity floods the art world today. I miss the thrive to strive for excellence
Art is a hobby. You need a real job to support yourself and buy art supplies. But people are broke, they don’t buy art. Making income from this hobby is unrealistic. You’ll have better chances buying a lottery. Too many people are awesome at art, but there’s almost no demand.
Your description of him surprised me because it fits the art critic he took over for at The Village Voice: Peter Schjeldahl. When Jerry Saltz took over the contrast in the tone was a shock. It got cold, ruthless and ugly. Maybe he has mellowed. His articles used to belittle the artists he was writing about. It was mean and dark. Hearing him admit to being an asshole helped. Maybe I can let go of what he once was.
I don't think art criticism is necessary, it's just that persons opinion anyway. Forever, people have preferred whatever is normal and usual for them. Every revolutionary artist has done something different and unconventional. If they had listened to critics it would have stunted them, Van Gogh, Picasso, Monet. We don't need art critics to tell us to like something or someone to tell me if I don't like it something is wrong with me.
Critiquing can be powerful. It helps one to see in a different light.
Are you seriously comparing yourself to those geniuses? 😂
This dirty old man only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Thank you for this podcast….it encouraged and motivated me to go on making art❤❤❤❤❤
Great podcast!
Brilliant!
Is it? He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
omg I love this guy!!
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Awesome ! 🙏
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Love me some Jerry
I don't see any mention of Nicholas Wilton's work in Jerry Saltz's article on "crapstraction" - is that a misunderstanding on Wilton's part?
Let’s see Jerry’s formative art. Who’s gatekeeping it from the world??
He should've stood his ground since his critique of the soup situation is just as reasonable as the critics' views. Getting gaslit so easily because some of the people he cares about having a different view on things and ultimately getting them to you is pathetic.
Love Jerry and love this podcast but WAY too many commercials all of the sudden, couldn’t finish it. Too distracting and such a disruptive shame.
Ad block plus!!!
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Too bad Saltz is a Big Baby when it comes to straight guys and republicans... otherwise an excellent interview. 👏
another "great" jewish talker .
he’s our therapist - coach- mother- ghost- teacher- mean but truthful friend-nemesis-in your ear inner critic- a man to love 👁
Thank you so much for interviewing Jerry Saltz!! His book How to be an Artist is one of my favorites! Will buy the new one!
Sister Wendy, Happy little clouds of Bob Ross, Jerry Saltz. I actually watched sister Wendy videos & looked at her books & love her. And I love happy little clouds!!! Yet, like the interviewer who was criticized by our beloved critic, (for "crapstraction"), in my case, I was excommunicated by him!!!! Totally broke my heart!... hmmmm?????? This podcaster is a great example of unconditional love & acceptance, (which I also have or I wouldn't be listening to this talk). It seems that's the best art world to create... Love wins. Peace. Blessings. Praise Jesus.
This was beautiful. Once Jerry Saltz liked my comment on instagram posts and he liked it my day was made :')
I have no issue with whether my art is good or bad. I would like to know if what I'm making is art or not, but that's apparently not something I'm supposed to want to know. FWIW I don't care if *you* think if is or not, I want to know for myself.
Omg the crap-straction. I'm dying here. Touché Lol. I've listened to both of Jerry's books on audible. Some of the political revelations and state of the art world direction rings with clarity.
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Did art while listening to this. Very enjoyable. Thank you for the encouragement
Such magical, engaging storytelling in this great interview. What an amazing rollercoaster ride of a life. Truth is truly stranger than fiction. Thank you for the wit, humor, candor, encouragement and for using four letter words like an artist rather than a truck driver.
Great rant. Bahaha. Thanks Nick and Jerry.
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Super interview!!!!
Hi. I'm in a difficult situation at this moment. It's a time when anxiety lives within in me. I know it won't last forever, but I think y'all know the feeling. Good thing . I trying to control my thoughts by learning more about who I am. I literally forgot...who I am. I heard that your feelings seep through your pores and show on your face. I'm praying. Thank you for sharing. I'm gonna work on my body...yep I'm fat. It's official.
You're not alone 💗
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Thank you
I love the insane ending on this quite inspiring podcast. Love how you turned it on its head with your little anecdote. I understand Saltz was penitent but regardless, the backhandedness, the poetic justice of it all.
what a great conversation!
Is it? How much did you earn from art, total? 😂 He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Jerry just keeps blossoming. Love you, Jerry. I was in the SVA MFA program waayyy back in the day and you were never boring.
Great show.
HA! I saw that same 'crapstraction' post too - and saw your work and I commented - "great post but don't come after Nick! lolololol" Love you both. Keep going ......
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
The way he delivers his words is so engaging. Loved listening to this episode!
Yet, it’s still a waste of your time. Can’t make a living from a frеаking HOBBY.! 😂
Nick is our Art Shrink! No Babies!
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
shut up and listen is priceless
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
Thanks, Jerry.
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️
I love this and him!
He only earns from you watching this garbage. He’s not an artist, he’s just a youtuber who gossips about art (because he can’t make a living from just painting) 😂 Are you that naive?! 🤦🏻♀️