How a Super 8 Film Cartridge Works
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- I love Super 8 and one of my favourite things about the format is the system itself that makes it work! So I wanted to completely break open a cartridge of film and breakdown all of the components inside to see exactly how this mysterious black cartridge works.
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Undoubtedly the most specialized channel and the best documented on the Super 8 and 16mm cinema format and their technique.
I'm so glad I found your channel! It's so informative and to the point. Excited to see it grow!
The "two reels side-by-side" arrangement of Super 8 makes me appreciate the "supply-reel-above-takeup-reel-below" simplicity of Japan's defunct Single 8 system.;)
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This channel is a bible for super 8 lovers, whatever you search you find it here! Thanks for your work
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Great man! ... cool to see a younger person into old school film shooting! ... Got myself a nice little collection of super 8 gear myself, also modern gear.
The coolest thing for me right now, is adapting vintage lenses to mirrorless cameras ... Retro Vibrations! ...
This was so informative thank you!
Great job getting past 600 subscribers! I’m in to put you more into the 600s! Interesting hack getting into the Super 8 👍💯
very great video ! I learned so much
Love this man. What a guy
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Hi, Noah! Really love your channel. Seeing your channel grow from the beginning till now is amazing! I am planning to digitalize my own film by using the Wolverine Digitizer. Would the used film be fully exposed if I open it? Or this only applies to partially used films?
If you open the film in the light the film will be exposed! Send it to a lab to get developed in order for it to be digitized
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Great. Very well explained.
Now. I've got a hair in the gate of my beloved Minolta XL. Any chance of a repair video,?
Interesting. I have shot lots of 16mm (and still do), but never knew how the super-8 cartridge system works. It's like a mini version of the Arriflex SR magazine.
That’s exactly the system that came to mind when I was learning about it! So similar how it’s the same kind of feed from one side to the other.
I thought about the Eclair when I saw that, but then I remembered even the Kodak Model B 16mm from the 1920s has that kind of film transport, not as a magazine though, of course.
Have you used reloadable cartridges to try double expose? do you recommend using reloadable cartridges for effects like this?
It's great to open it up and show us (could've bought a reloadable cartridge but it's interesting to see the original film in there) yet for developing I would never say ripping open the cartridge is necesarry. Doing that in a dark room with a rusty carpet knife is not ideal. For me, I put a small piece of metal into the pressure plate to push it back, and simply wheel it out from the end, it doesn't get scratched and comes out easily. You simple have to break the rewind mechanism by spinning the back.
nice video
with what camera can i use this filetype ? bought a bolex paillard and its not fitting lol...
Hi, I just bought a Bolex P4 Zoom Reflex Automatic. I was wondering if you could make a video showing how to load that camera.
However, I wonder why filming sometimes stops with the new Kodak Vision, but it never was with the old tapes. Are today's housings possibly different in the inner part?
No your camera is just old and shitty now. they work just fine.
could you load that film inside after cutting it open like that onto an old projector?
i checked to see if my film was rolling by putting a dot with a sharpie and it wasn’t , i had to mess with it a bit it’s kinda stressful idk if it’s the cartridge or the camera
Hi Noah! What are the indicators that you cartridge has reached the end of its film? Let me know when you can. Thanks!
I have two cartridges from the 1970s I need to get developed and put into a digital format. Do you know where I could get this done?
I know Film Rescue specializes in developing old film.
I'm going start filming with super 8 mostly out in the sun and I wanna get a camera that shoots 24fps or 30 fps any recommendations.
I'm not aware of any that shoot 30fps, but there are many that can do 24. I love my personal yashica LD-8 as an affordable option. Higher end ones that are really popular and loaded with features are the Canon 814's and 1014's, Nikon R8 and R10. Another budget one could be the Ricoh 800Z. Check out the camera section on filmkorn.org/super8data to see specs on various ones based on what you're looking for!
@@AnalogResurgence My chinon xl555 shoots 36 fps. It cost me $18 but that was with the eye piece rubber devolving into a tar-like gooey mess and focusing ring rubber getting there. A frikkin pain cleaning it all up. Plus the battery tray was missing but easy enough to replace with a 4 AA battery holder.
WHat happens when you've gotten to the end of the film? My Leicina made no difference. No difference in noise. I thought i was still shooting but it seemed too long and opening it i saw it was finished.
Have you worked with audio recorded to Super 8? I know that some Super 8 film stocks will record audio. Do you know if any of film stocks currently in production will record audio and do you know where/how to get that processed?
Unfortunately all those Super 8 sound films are decades old now and that is no longer being produced. They used to put magnetic audio on the film but haven’t since the 80’s. I’m going to tackle sound on super 8 in the future, but it’s a non-sync format so if you were to try and sync up audio recorded separately then it would drift out of sync after a few seconds. You would have to work to kind of speed adjust your footage to match up with your audio.
@@AnalogResurgence Thanks for the info! That's very good to know but sounds like a bit of a headache. I'm thinking about working with Super 8 for an upcoming project, but I'm trying to work out the audio side of things. Looks like it could be a nightmare in post. Any suggestions? Maybe I could try my luck with the expired stock that uses the magnetic strip if I can find enough?
@@taylorervin264 Most of it is crazy expired old Ektachrome reversal film at this point that typically doesn't age well. The sound Kodachrome is completely obsolete and no one will process that anymore. Not all lab will process it because it's so old and it took a slightly different chemical process than what's done today. You could try and source some but be sure to contact the lab you plan to use first to see if they would be willing to process it in their machines.
@@AnalogResurgence Yeah, the emulsion in the sound film is cheaper and weaker than in the silent cartridges. I had to develop my Ektachrome sound cartridge in B&W using a stand still developing method (no agitation whatsoever) otherwise the emulsion would slip right off.
Can you use that film to refill used 110 cartridges?
110 film is the same size as 16mm film! Super 8 would be too small
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They open it like that when you send it to develop?
Yes, they are cut open in a darkroom
How tf do they do that in the darkness of a development lab without cutting off one finger per tape?
Fuji's single 8 system was better than Kodak. The cartridge didn't need a pressure plate, and was 1\4 the width of the Kodak ( in size almost like a 4 track audio cassette) It simply would run from the top to the bottom of the cartridge.Because of this design it allowed for unlimited back winding of the film. My experience with it was that the Fuji film yielded better and sharper results...
Single-8 has never really prevailed over the Kodak tapes outside of Japan. The Kodak cassettes were even built in the Soviet Union.
i have a darkroom question? can i have a red light in the room, will it exposed the film, and can it be any red light bulb or does it have to be one form b&h meant for darkrooms?
For having a red light you can only handle things like black and white photo paper in a darkroom under red light. These papers are for printing and have very very low sensitivity and are only affected by light of certain kind. Red lights are not for handling rolls of film that you're going to be shooting in a camera because they're much more sensitive to light and the red light will ruin them. Red lights in darkrooms are only used during an actual printing process using already developed negatives and printing paper. Loading rolls into developing tanks or opening canisters to handle film has to be done in complete darkness.
@@AnalogResurgence: I would like to see a darkroom basics video. Doesn't have to be a step-by-step demonstration, but like the overview and equipment names and uses.
Imagine if that was still all we had.
maybe people wouldn't spend their lives on their computers.......
TH-cam wouldn’t even exist, so you wouldn’t be watching this.
Thanks, cutting open the cartridge seem very dangerous. Why not break open the cartridge with a hammer? I am no stranger to film developing, even got my own business on ebay doing developing but developing super 8 kinda scares me. You should make a super 8 developing video.
Typically, finished Super 8 cartridges will have a "tongue" of film sticking out that says "EXPOSED". I find it easy to just pull the film out from that tongue when I need to develop them myself. But sometimes, the film tongue might break off when pulled or slip into the cartridge, so that's where I turn to a hammer and pliers. XD
@@mynamehasspacesinit8687 that's great. So after you develop the film, how do you hang 50 feet of film to dry?