Critical Race Theory: Why the Controversy?
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Is CRT turning your third grader into a communist? (Spoiler alert: Naw.)
Critical Race Theory is everywhere, and people are super mad about it. But do they actually know what they're talking about? Let's find out in this Philosopher Reacts to the CRT Controversy.
To learn more about Critical Race Theory:
Critical Race Theory: An Introduction, Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic
To start with G.W.F. Hegel:
An Introduction to Hegel: Freedom, Truth and History, Stephen Houlgate
Hegel’s most famous book:
Phenomenology of Spirit, G.W.F. Hegel, translated by A.V. Miller
An introduction to Marx’s Capital:
A Companion to Marx’s Capital: The Complete Edition, David Harvey
Marx’s classic book:
Capital (Volume 1: A Critique of Political Economy), Karl Marx
An accessible introduction to the Frankfurt School:
Grand Hotel Abyss: The Lives of the Frankfurt School, Stuart Jeffries
One of the key texts of Critical Theory:
Dialectic of Enlightenment, Max Horkheimer and Theodor Adorno
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00:00 - Intro
02:49 - What Is CRT
04:41 - Hegel, The Dialectic, and School
10:49 - Karl Marx and CRT
13:43 - Critical Theory
17:52 - Conclusion
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I totally agree with these people. CRT is outdated and should be thrown out of our schools.
HD TVs have been the standard for years
Explain.
@@MrKIMBO345 He's making a pun about Cathode Ray Tube televisions, the original TV design, which has since been replaced with TVs that just use pixels.
💀💀💀😂😂😂😂😂
badum tsss
Ikr. Plasma Flat Screens all the way!
My friend, a philosophy major, once said that there's this funny game on the faculty when one didn't read the book that's being discussed, so they squirm pathetically trying to make it seem like they did. They win if they aren't caught, 'cause that likely means the other party didn't read the book either.
If you don't throw stones you can't hit windows.
@Andrew Sokolowski “How to Not Watch the Video Or Read the Source Text and Thereby Prove OP’s Point: A Case Study”
@Andrew Sokolowski So, You are a Marxist?
@Andrew Sokolowski lol
@R D marxists formed it but that doesn’t make it a marxist concept, any more than sharing = good is a marxist concept.
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As a father, I *DEMAND* my children to be taught in the "Hegelian Dialetical Mode"!
Well, you are their parent. Do you want to teach philosophy to them?
Because you don't learn that in most standard curricula.
HD over CRT, 🤔 makes sense.
Slovaj Zizek nods uncontrollably in agreement and tells a dirty joke all his friends are OK with
If you replace "class" by "race", "black" by "proletariat", "white" by "bourgeoisie" in CRT , it is just another version of Marx's class struggle theory which caused mass killings under communist regimes for the past hundred year. The Red guards in cultural revolution during Mao's era even killed the "class enemies" and ate their flesh in order to show the "hatred" towards them !
@@galaxy-star-me Marxist class analysis is very specifically defines the bourgeoisie as those who live off of owning capital and the proletariat as those who do not own capital so must make their living off of selling their labor to capitalists, with "class struggle" being the inherently antagonistic interests of those two groups based off the exploitation and alienation inherent to the transaction. There is no equivalent in CRT. You literally have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
My dear wife teaches first grade. The only things she is teaching six year olds are reading, writing, addition, subtraction, a little bit of science, how to keep your hands to yourself, and how to stay awake after lunch recess.
Your wife is doing it right! ✌️
Nice, goes to show CRT isn't being taught schools and its nostly just somthing fox news made up to scare parents.
A little bit of science?! You Marxist, communist pigs!!!! 😂
Seriously though, props to her!
Ok but how do you stay awake after lunch recess?
That's a great a anecdote. I can point you to a reddit full of public school teachers who will clearly explain to you how they are being forced to study and teach this shit to public school children, if you like.
"The dialectic ... is a method of logic as clearly laid out in books like "The Phenomenology of Spirit" and "The Science of Logic." False. Nothing in Hegel's books is laid out clearly.
Lmfao I'm pretty sure the guy was an academic sadomasochist
The one good dunk on hegel in this comment section
Hypocritical Race Theory
@@Ben-rz9cf 1000000%. Tbh I'm half convinced it's a prerequisite of academic philosophy.
Lol, thank you, you made my day !
"You know a lot about this" was actually a dogwhistle insult.
If you missed it, imagine they were talking about whiskey instead of philosophy. "You sure know a lot about this" basically means "you're clearly an alcoholic."
That is true and in the entire world critical anti-intellectualism theory could be a thing. It's ingrained so deeply in all cultures that we hardly notice it at all and we definitely don't take it seriously when someone makes such a remark.
I do hope that some day it will be as frowned upon as much as we now frown on someone being overtly racist or sexist.
Yeah, I agree that it was probably intended that way. But "You sure know a lot about whiskey" can also mean "You know a lot about whiskey (and I don't)."
I took it more as, his standards of knowledge while on live media were higher than previously thought. He was expecting talking points and not elaborations.
“You want to prepare your child to think as he gets older. You want him to be critical in his judgments. Teaching a child, by your example, that there’s never any room for negotiating or making choices in life may suggest that you expect blind obedience-but it won’t help him in the long run to be discriminating in choices and thinking.”
- Lawrence Balter
PEOPLE DONT WANT THEIR KIDS TO THINK!
Especially not Religious Households!
Stop being naive and look how bleak the Future is.
@@nenmaster5218 I want my child to think critcaly, but teaching critcal race theory isn't something that allows free thinking, it allows only either vicrimzing or critcizm
@@partydave1067 Are you sure?
@@nenmaster5218 I want my children to base their arguements and thoughts on evidences and facts not some remastered version of Mine Kamph
@@partydave1067 Well, now your going overboard. Comparing CRT-Supporters (who comes from all places and levels of society) to literal N-zis is not 'based on facts' like someone mature.
Nope.
I wanna believe you still, dspite that Blunder you just made, but stop making everyone who opposes you a literal N-zi in your head, cause that's damn embarassing to Do.
“All words are made up.”
- Thor
They are honestly.
"But some are more made up than others."
-George ThOrwell
Word are defined by the meanings they are used to convey, and over time those meanings can shift, or can be used different ways by different groups. Since we all agree that conservatives aren't talking about a semi-obscure branch of legal analysis when referring to CRT, maybe it would be worthwhile to know the specifics of what they actually mean when seeking to ban "CRT." To me, the best approach there would be to look at what anti-CRT bills actually prohibit and take those things to be examples of the sorts of things they mean when they refer to CRT in a K-12 sense.
Looking at the bills, it prohibits (for example) stuff like teaching melanin theory or trying to instill white guilt in students. Each attempted or passed anti-CRT bill is a bit different, but practically all of them give an explicit list of tenets or beliefs that are considered not acceptable to teach most of which aren't terribly long. The two examples I gave fall afoul of every such bill I read, as teaching inherent racial superiority of any race or the need for racial guilt were on their respective lists.
Well, this is basically (late) Wittgenstein ?
"Mind blown"
- Carol/Sheryl (Archer)
When you learn about philosophical concepts like Hegelian Dialectics as a teen not from school but from a militaristic dictator in a video game with sex robots.
Nier Automata or Metal Gear Revengeance?
@@lukeamparo6586 Fallout: New Vegas
Ave True to Caesar
Oooh
Titus, the cross, if you would
Maybe it's because I live in the south, but as an educator who (just last week) had two different instances where I had to tell students to not use "gay" as an insult.... young kids aren't learning how to be "woke." You'd be surprised, but many students' ideologies are influenced by their parents and peers WAY more than they are by what they learn in school.
Well that’s gay
Yeah, cause nowadays not being an asshole apparently is "woke"
@@sgtkort97 You treat other people as human beings??? Sounds pretty gay.
@@sgtkort97 Y R yew gae?
Thank God
I think that when a philosophical or legal theory and framework has been largely co-opted by people without studying what they were used for, the debate is largely ineffective.
People with an agenda will use whatever language they want to enforce their viewpoint. It's the people without an agenda that mindlessly follow along that are all the more dangerous.
I think you just explained all the stupidity behind the whole crt imbroglio perfectly!
When you think about it, it's mind-numbingly stupid.
It's been co opted on both sides, republicans are using it as a fear tactic to gain support and liberals use it to indoctrinate young people and upper middle class students since Marxists have given up on going after the working class ironically, these days Marxism is about well off college students feeling like they've been oppressed while getting their masters 😂😂 as if they aren't already 20 times more well off than actual lower class and working class people this guy did the same thing in this video the Republicans do all the time, misrepresented their argument all the while pretending teachers are teaching CRT from simply a theory perspective, it's literally being taught in kindergartens in California and that is a fact. One of the focal points of communism is bringing the system down from the inside, I can link multiple verified articles where children have been specifically told NOT TO TELL THEIR PARENTS WHAT THEYVE BEEN LEARNING. If these people had nothing to hide and it was just a "theory", they wouldn't be telling children to hide things from their parents. This guy is just as much of a bozo as the alt right
I'll miss the days when CRT refers to a type of computer monitor. Those big, chunky, space hogging monitors.
Hella good for retro gaming and vhs movie watching though.
When I was a kid, “CRT in schools” meant rolling out a media cart and watching a VHS tape.
@@blakebonanza Also see: Indoor tanning X Sterilization \s LMAO
That's what I think when I see CRT. Cathode Ray Tubes
There is PC and it means two different things AFAIK.
God i enjoy having a bibliography in the description section. Everyone should have a bibliography
*T H I S*
It's honestly so annoying how many of these "intellectual" channels post so many things that virtually comes out of their ass.
We need to normalize citation!
*useful citation.
Not just here's a long article or book. Find what I said somewhere in there🙄
I always HATED having to do them in school. Now that I'm older I can very, very clearly see the value and importance of them.
@@samshepard9628 it can get pretty annoying having to remember citation rules. But nowadays many articles and other academic texts already come with its citation so there really is no reason not to use them.
I just wanted to take a moment to say Thank You to the people of Wisecrack. Your channel has educated me and shared viewpoints I might never have been exposed to had I not watched your videos. Good work and again Thank You.
I am happy to say that I have never once held a hastily made handheld sign to champion the cause of anything I just heard about 2 hours ago on the news.
Don’t you CARE?!?
@@davidgill3356 I only care about Elden Ring.
@@scotch4890 Probably healthier that way.
@@davidgill3356 my girl disagrees. But screw her, figuratively and literally
@@scotch4890 Try bannerlord next
You can't overcome the inherent subjectivity when it comes to this stuff, people lose objectivity when it is convenient, some people never had it.
Exactly. Also subjectivity is intrinsically appealing to people on an inherent, lizard-brain level. Like tribalism.
Why did you keep going after, "You can't overcome the inherent subjectivity?" Could've just stopped there.
@@zxyatiywariii8 Pave that road to hell with some good intentions and let those reptilian brains lead the way! Good times!
@@sleepyartsstudent874 Mmm, very naughty of you. Do you think that it's important for him to not say the rest of what he said? Do you think it has negative consequences? Or are you just interested in his motive?
Uhm, the kind of people you're likely responding to are the ones putting the very claim of objectivity into question.
I have read 'phenomenology of spirit' and there is nothing clearly layed out in it.
Like most philosophy books, just kidding, I never really read any philosophy books beyond my school text books, I tried to read Beyond Good and Evil once but I didn't understood a thing. Philosophy really isn't my thing.
@@rafaelalodio5116 I recommend Bertrand Russel's *History of Western Philosophy* - it's surprisingly light reading for the first 3/4ths !
All continental philosophy is like that. You have to ease your way into it book by book.
@@rafaelalodio5116 lol you’re not kidding 🤐
@@peaksingularity3032 But Bertrand Russell was going for clarity. Except when he wrote the Principia. In which he not only managed to obfuscate the f**k out of basic arithmetic, but he was ultimately on a fool's errand anyway, as shown by Godel et al.
Anti-Hegelians never realize what they're doing when they think of Hegel in terms of what they believe 'debunks' his work.
"Hegelian Dialectical mode" is one of the first things kids are taught in French public schools because philosophy classes are mandatory once in highschools. However, that's also changing because the current government thinks that wokism is a "real" threat to national French identity and its spotless universalism...
@свевский wtf are you talking about ...
Ah nice a video about old televisions.
Just when CRT TVs stopped getting made, making fighting game tournament organizers sweat. Too bad I donated my pristine condition Sony Trinitron to a nursing home 6 years ago 😩
Nowadays, they probably have more LCD TVs than they know what to do with. The CRT would have served the fighting game community better, but I didn't know better at the time 😩
Yeah! I Find OLEDs offensive! We have to go back to Plasma TVs!!! I want screen burn back!!!
CRTs had the best color accuracy and the best frame refresh rate.
@@angelgjr1999 how dare you spread this kind of propaganda!
It's just your technological privilege
I'm sorry but Kobolds are the master race.
The small size- Oh, we're not talking about role playing games
Just don't try to take their candles
The everlasting conflict between Kobolds and Goblins continues.
It is well known that Kobolts are best in caves
For sure, Half-Orcs are the best Critical Race, with 'savage attacks' on critical roles. At least, that's my theory.
Thanks for all the analogies. Now I have to imagine an Orc with a bob cut yelling at a Genasi store clerk about why they can't return 40 rolls of toilet paper they bought at a different store 6 months ago.
Critical race theory (CRT) is a study of learning regarding 20th century legal academia programs (Delgado and Stefancic) taught at a college level. I am pretty sure that most everyone using this term does not understand it. It’s goals are to transform and understand the relationship between: race, racism and power….
It needs a rebranding. Same with "defund the police". People leap to conclusions without ever investigating what these things mean.
I'm calling my block captain, and having my local People's Peace Officer Security Services, comrades.
So this video was very informative, but leaves me with one last unanswered question: why is this being ushered into mainstream consciousness at this point in history?
I won’t really be able to answer this in a way that’s unbiased, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I’ll also try to shorten it down (there’s a TL:DR at the bottom).
So for as long as conservatism has been a thing, it’s always been about preserving the past/present. Today’s current conservatives have little positives to none to offer, so instead of focusing on that, they’ll very often focus on what *could* happen. And since their whole ideology is based around keeping the past intact, society shifting in new, unusual ways is scary and uncomfortable to them.
Enter CRT, the idea that in order to properly fix systemic racism, it needs to be addressed and that whether we intend to or not, racist ideas have been normalised and taught throughout generations. For a lot of people (typically privileged), this is very uncomfortable. The thought that they could have unknowingly been racist for years is a lot to handle.
So usually, you’ll have two groups, those that decide to confront reality, which isn’t easy to do, and those who decide to ignore it. Conservatives decide to ignore it.
And so, with that fear already put into conservatives, who typically tend to be older folk, their politicians will go “not only are you right, but these radical leftists really *are* coming to get you. And only I can solve that problem for you.”
So TL:DR, conservative politicians seek to scare their base, telling them that new things should be rejected, as change is scary. Right now, they’re trying to scare their base with CRT.
@@charltinion5615 well, this made a whole lotta sense lol, thank you very much!
@@dantejackson8670 No worries. :)
Just remember that if a politician is saying something will “destroy the foundation of America”, they’re very likely bullshitting lol.
@@charltinion5615 You created a hypothetical situation yet explained it as fact.
The other comment explained it much better, but to add an addendum, there was this one conservative grifter who went on Fox News and brought it up, and directly said that Trump needs to address "government facilities teaching CRT" - when literally all that was happening was pretty ineffective and kinda cringe racial bias trainings that don't work were being presented to people, which isn't even CRT - and the talking point very quickly was picked up by everyone in the republican party to stoke the extreme racial animosity they'd harbored since George Floyd (and long before, that was simply the event which recently heavily increased it)
So yeah, literally, random dude trying to get Big Oil money or whatever ends up as the spokesperson for the biggest non-issue of all-time. Wild shit.
Its all Psychohistory man, Hari Seldon is laughing in his fictional nonexistence.
@Susan VanDeventer Iverson lmfaoo.🤡
@@lostangel17 lol that emoji must represent yourself. People against CRT are fear mongering and or extremely ignorant.
@@SuperRONDALE keep projecting. Lmao.
@@lostangel17 I…I don’t think you understand what you just typed.
@@SuperRONDALE i don't think you understand. Try working on your comprehension skills.
4:30 You sir need to listen to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History, all of his podcasts are 4+ hours and are glorious
As a fan of Tim Rogers videos, I also feel seen.
Well they started out as 15 Minutes ones and have been steadily escalating from there.
I love Dan Carlin! Solid reccomendation
Well, objective fact according to Experts/Studied/Everything-valid is that some White
have indeed manipulated History,
hence why Students often have gotten Misinformation.
Racism is not a ‚Ever done learning about it’-Topic anyway,
so what?
Sunday Towns and what is generally known about them are a good Example for this.
'Illuminatinaughtii' just made a video named 'Sunday Towns / Prism of the Past' about it. Worth checking out...
7:30,Dunning-Kruger strikes again
One of the precepts of CRT is that all people of a certain race should be categorized as being racist.
It comes down to, -Do not base judgement on a person's character.
Opinion and judgement should be made, on the basis of one's skin color.
Hum.
Wow. That's very bad. Can you give the source?
4:16 "a *FOUR HOUR* podcast on CRT" I get the feeling they purposefully make these social media posts as long as possible. It's not meant to be concise, the whole point is to dilute the conversation
Check out Ryan Chapman then. Lindsay's podcasts are so long because he actually reads through the books while offering his analysis and critique. Chapman goes through the texts too, but his videos are meant to highlight key points rather than dig into the minutia like Lindsay does.
Only other thing I can say is, don't criticize people for presenting a shallow understanding and then criticize those who go in depth. Hopefully you only choose to critique the people who go in depth and instead check out Ryan Chapman.
As a Canadian looking in, I can only say this - the USA is a circus.
we have crt here
Relax corona man
As a Canadian try looking at your own backyard. If the PM is re-elected canada will be a communist country by the end of his term. He has already forced through most of the laws for turnkey tyranny to happen. So many benefits rights and privilege's are already based on race and gender. An able bodied woman will get social housing long before a disabled male on a pension will. Women are still receiving affirmative action when they are 60% of the graduates. Look at family law it would take the rest of the day to list all the biases that benefit some in sexist or racist ways. Women are treated like children and given the responsibility of children. They get the consequences like they are children. Most policies put women and minorities in the same category as the mentally retarded and disabled. Canada has been all about CRT for a very long time.
Our biggest export is our brain cancer, so laugh while you can.
I introduce you to your current Prime Minister, perhaps one of the most corrupt PMs that Canada has ever had!
Oh boy. This is gonna go over well...
Nah racist wouldn’t be watching wisecrack
@@siegebug doesn't mean they won't brigade
@@siegebug If you think opposing CRT means you’re a racist, you haven’t understood what CRT says about racism.
@@Le-cp9tr yes, if you oppose crt you are racist. You gonna cry about it?
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When I was writing my MA thesis about racial disparity in the US education system, I somehow remained uniformed about CRT despite all my research (although my field is language education specifically, so I’ll give myself a break). In fact, it wasn’t even until all the controversy over the issue surfaced when I finally looked into the theory for myself. I found that CRT parallels many of the themes I discussed in my thesis. As an educator, this video emphasizes my desire to inform people about systemic racism while also highlighting my frustrations towards certain parts of the population who use misconceptions about C(R)T to justify their own racial biases and maintain the status quo. But more importantly, I don’t understand why closed-minded individuals insist this is being taught in a K-12 curriculum? Like I the didn’t start using complex theoretical framework to construct arguments until well into college.
Does CRT imply that race is a social construct?
The current issue with CRT is nothing more than Right-wing conspiracy talking point against the left! Germany teaches their children about the history of the Nazis to ensure something like that doesn't happen again. Racism, White Supremacist, white nationalism is not socially accepted in our Democratic Society; however, since the reign of the narcissist in chief his behavior, demeanor, and his unwillingness to refute racism in America during his term in the highest office in the land has given the fascist, KKK, and White Nationalist a platform and they no longer feel they need to hide in basements.
If you come to similar conclusions or themes as CRT, bro, you need to rethink a lot of things and get better sources
@@enufots4621 literally nothing you said is true.
The local parents’ group (not the sane parents, the anti-mask, anti-vaccine, Trump-won people) insists that Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion programs = CRT
“Mythony”
“Rachery”
I just love the random weird names he comes up with for hypothetical people/kids
I'd say the best criticism of CRT that I've heard is the recognition that you can't separate white privilege from majority privilege, or black marginalization from minority marginalization. No matter what country you go to, if you are not part of the predominate in-group of the country, you will very much be rejected and be treated as an outsider. This is because of the way the human brain works on a psychological level. It's part of the evolutionary biology that makes us prioritize those within our in-group from those outside of it. It's also somewhat just a functional issue with the way we work as trying to treat everyone as part of your in-group will lead to people you don't want sneaking their way in and sabotaging it from the inside, typically socio/psychopaths for typical hierarchies. Now, this isn't to say it's just or that it's ok, but it does have a reason outside of racism. Simply put, a lot of the things being declared as racism, while definitely unfair in many aspects, are not because people think lesser or poorly of any particular race. It's simply that the brain uses visuals first to gain assessments of those around us, and frustratingly enough, the brain simply does not treat people of a different skin tone the exact same way you treat someone with your skintone. This is perfectly exemplified in the way that the Japanese treat their half blooded members of society. If you are half-Japanese in Japan, if you look predominantly Japanese, have a Japanese name, and speak fluent Japanese, you are treated as Japanese without issue by your peers. On the flip side of the coin however, if you don't inherently look Japanese, don't have a Japanese name, or cannot speak fluent Japanese, you are treated as gaijin, and are typically not given the same respect or level of comfort as a full blooded Japanese person. This, I feel, is a perfect encapsulation of the problem with the way CRT is often discussed and taught. The problems presented by CRT are encapsulated in a pretty simple point, "Minority races in America have been treated poorly in that past, and it is important to look how that past has affected the modern generations of those populations." Now, the problem is that this is entirely true, minority races HAVE been treated poorly in the past in America, and it is indeed important to know how that previous treatment has affected the modern generations of those groups, but it would be a falsehood to say that every one of the unfair treatments, and or inequalities, are due to racism. And this is where the highly valid criticism of CRT basically lies. The core concept of CRT is true, but its presuppositions are left open enough that it can be abused and twisted horribly. All one must do is point at an inequality between the races, and say that, due to the horrible treatment of that minority in the past, and the fact that they were not given the same rights, at the same time, with the same money, as white men, that the fact there is still an inequality is an example of there still being systematic mistreatment of that group either in the legal or social systems. You can point at any disparity between groups and call it racism, and by that logic, every country, nation, person, and culture is racist. Because as it turns out, people want, suffer from, value, and do very different things than other people. And never forget, that there are more differences within groups than between them. I really hope this was at least interesting for anyone who had to sit through my long winded explanation. Thanks for your time, and thank you if you leave any comments.
That's the "best" argument youve heard?
How about "everyone is equal under the law, *regardless* of skin color." The idea that we even need to consider skin color is how we got into this mess.
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnly you made the same point as OP
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnly That would be nice if it were true, but if you actually study American history, its very self-evident that law has been used as weapons against non-white persons. Read The Colour of Law (written by Richard Rothstein) and he lays it out pretty clearly. It's well documented history. Don't feel too bad for being ignorant; I didn't know about a lot of this before I started researching American history. Those racist Americans were very crafty in their use of legislation as weapons. It's a good thing modern day right wingers are so dumb and are so transparent when they attempt similar things in modern times. The age of the internet also makes it a lot harder legislate as they did without everyone calling them out on it; hence why basically everyone in the western sphere knows that the GOP has been trying to make it harder for ethnic minorities to vote and for women to have autonomy over their own bodies. They might have been able to do these things quietly as they did with de jure segregation, achieved via redlining communities, industrial lot conversion and using housing associations to enforce segregation and control community migration and property prices. That's when they don't rely on violence of course; which is the bread and butter of the right wing ideology. It's a very fascinating topic if somewhat morbid when you look through relatively recent American history and its effects on modern day America.
@@Lord_of_Dread I don’t think OP is arguing that the practice of law in the US historically isn’t racist, but simply that as it enters the general consciousness it has been oversimplified to the point that it loses accuracy and meaning. For instance while African Americans are disproportionately jailed for drug charges, drug charges in general target the lower class and African Americans are disproportionately poor. As a result it becomes difficult to say definitively that this constitutes legal systemic racism in this case (or at least a definitive quantification) as opposed to a consequence of previous systemic racism that lead to the wealth inequality which itself is the primary driving factor behind drug related incarceration. As I’m certain you know the war on drugs *was* intentionally designed to target minorities, but it becomes difficult to quantify the level of systemic legal racism when factors of even previous generations’ racism play a large role.
I’m interested where you’ve heard that criticism from? Funny enough it sounds similar to something I’ve said in the past and you’re the first outside myself to mention the similarities between “majority privilege” and racism. The problem with this argument though is it justifies racism and violence as simply human nature. If that’s the case then it also signifies a general hypocrisy with regards to our other belief systems such as with religion and subsequently the courts which would inevitably result in their collapse as morality is a core tenant of them both. To put it simply, it destroys the idea that people are inherently good and that we strive to do good things and thus both are just corrupt systems of control. Ultimately though this doesn’t in either case discredit CRT, as it’s simply an coalition of facts and ideas based on our lived experiences. Information in other words and this information at the end of the day is just a tool, like the GOP claim guns to be, and it’s up to us as people to decide how to use it. I personally though don’t believe burning books is the way to go.
Michael, you're a liar. Everybody knows that nobody was born in Florida since 1860.
@Andrew Sokolowski lmao
@Andrew Sokolowski you're just wrong about the first point and the second point is just opinion
@Andrew Sokolowski Boo! Get new material!
@Andrew Sokolowski Marxism is exclusively about class but the fact that you can even draw a parallel between class and race shows how fucked America is. CRT is about trying to dismantle a system of prejudice and discrimination. Marxism is about a whole dismantling of everything in our modern capitalist lives. If you think a racist system is important to our capitalist lives then you're even more left than me lol.
@@maxmurray1347 you are correct, Marxism and CRT is not the same thing. This fact doesn’t mean that either one is right or wrong.
I feel like you guys are purposely missing key parts of the story here. It was interesting you chose to leave out a clear definition of what critical race theory is and how it's being applied in education. Why is that exactly? You're strawmanning Lindsay by suggesting that he's implying a direct link between Hegel's dialectics and CRT, and then its application in modern education leads to primary school kids being taught dialectics (Lindsay has never suggested this). It's easy to make a complicated idea seem hairbrained when you choose to leave out critical elements. Lindsay is suggesting Hegel's link is what lead to Marxist ideas, which transformed into critical theory, and then finally lead to intersectionalism and CRT. It's not that complicated when you just follow the development of the philosophies and identify their key parts. Marxism was a story about the class struggle between the Bourgeoisie and the Proletariat. One class with power oppressing a lower class. Intersectionalism just elaborated on the difference between upper and lower class to include cultural/gender identity, so now the lower class are POC's, women, non binary identities etc. This is why it's referred to as cultural marxism, and it's a pretty apt term. You can argue about the merit of Marxist ideas all day long, and probably make a good case to support his theory, but we all know how things turn out when we try to apply them in the real world. It's very hard to engineer equality into systems, because none of us really know how to liberate those who fall into disadvantaged classes. Liberation cannot be brought on instantly, it takes time and progress is not linear (even Hegel understood this). Problems begin to arise when we get impatient and decide that change and equality has to happen as quickly as possible, and the only way to do this quickly is by knocking the upper class down a peg. With this, we can be all equally disadvantaged... so equality right? I guess so, but do we really believe that's a good outcome? This is what we saw in the soviet union, and the same kinds of things are happening with the application of critical theory. For instance, Harvard wants equal representation with their student intake. Asian people are the highest achievers on test scores, so their only way to get a more balanced outcome is by making it harder for Asian people to get into the school. How exactly are we getting rid of discrimination if it means we have to discriminate against a new class to achieve the 'desired outcome'?
The big problem I see with Critical theories, is that it only serves to criticize, and doesn't seem offer any viable solutions. If the only solution they can offer is to "make the advantaged people disadvantaged" then we aren't making any progress at all. It's good that we're trying to tackle these issues, but it's pretty obvious we're heading down the wrong path. People are more divided than ever, and it's because all we're doing is criticizing each other without offering any solutions. We need to go back to the drawing board with this one. We've got the right idea but it's the wrong solution.
That’s not how critical Theories work. CRT is important as you have to identify the problem before you can solve it. To say that the aim is to bring advantage people down is ignorant and has no basis in reality. If you can cite anywhere where this is the goal of crt I will wire you a thousand dollars
@@oogskskfn Harvard's equity policy is directly influenced by CRT. By engineering 'diversity' into Harvard admissions, it resulted in Asian people (who are advantaged, because they are smart and work hard) being put at an unfair disadvantage. In order to reach even representation, they had to raise SAT requirements for Asian demographics, thus making it easier for people from other minority races (who had their SAT requirements lowered) to get accepted. A key point here - even the SAT requirements for white people were lower than Asian people, which gave white people an unfair advantage over Asians too.
Proof of it here, as you can see clearly in the graphs. Harvard was sued for this.
www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/10/22/asian-american-admit-sat-scores/
"Duke economist Peter S. Arcidiacono, whom SFFA retained as an expert witness, wrote in a pre-trial report that, “by controlling for test scores, one can show that [Asian-Americans applicants were] being held to a higher standard than [other applicants], all else equal.”
Edit: give me my thousand dollars
@@oogskskfn Go... give the man his thousand dollars, you stupid fuck
@@atrain3441 He was wrong.
Nice dissection of points. But, you didn't cover the main thing that I heard about that made me go "WTF?!" about CRT. There was some discussion about trying to get a certain children's book (think it's called "Not My Idea") to be taught to extremely young students in certain school districts. To inaccurately paraphrase, the book basically tells kids that to be white is to be the devil, take advantage of minorities, and a couple other ridiculous things.
And I don't know if this was true but it seemed to have been true in some sense, some school districts seemed to be considering adding it to curriculum according to different articles about it.
THAT put me up in arms about CRT. Not this philosophical stuff.
You will get pushback from dishonest or stupid people saying, "That's not CRT" or "That's a basterdization of it." What CRT does it teach people how to draw these conclusions like the one in the book you mentioned. CRT is the theory behind systemic discrimination. CRT praxis, though, is then taking what you've learned from CRT and figuring out how to combat said discrimination. So the results of CRT are things like the book you mentioned.
@@ForOrAgainstUs No, you'll get stupid or dishonest people like yourself claiming it is. Its a legal theory it looks at the legal system. The fact is the CRT hysteria is all artificially constructed by conservatives to galvanise their voting base. That's it. You'll actively fabricate things that aren't happening to perpetuate it.
I used to hang with a philosophy professor who specialized in and exclusively taught Hegel.... one of the least "woke" guys I've ever met lmao
being woke literally just means caring about others and supporting equality. what kind of evil person doesn't support equality or care for others?
@@advancedlamb yes, true. Pretty ironic that anti-intellectuals have found a way to intellectualize simple empathy into oblivion.
Edit: after reading more of these comments... yeah, I rest my case.
@@advancedlamb all kinds of people unfortunately
Hagel, critical race theory and "woke are three different concepts.
@@Joso997 try explaining that to your average republican, their fucking head would explode
"Do they even know what they're talking about?"
Dude I've been part of the equity justice crowd for like fifteen years now, and even I don't know what anybody is talking about anymore. No one is talking with anybody, they're just talking at each other all to fuel the political fervor of the their own side while widening the gap between them. None of this is about legal politics, it's all about how bad you can make the other side look to score more clout from your in-group. Tribalism has poisoned the entire well.
Realist thing I've herd anyone say I awhile
It's exactly what it was always meant to be
@@brainbane8550
Because you *sshats ACCUSE EVERYONE who is to the right of your political opinion, on ANY ISSUE, of being a r*cist f*scist, or a N*zi or a white s*prem*cy supporter.
@@brainbane8550 everything u said is infact the realest thing being spoken.
@@brainbane8550 Buddy I am a homosexual who spent 25 years living in shame, and let me tell you from personal experience, you will N E V E R shame racists or white supremacists or bigots away. Shame isn't effective, it just feels good to force onto other people. If you want to be effective your first and foremost priority is to empathize with them. You NEED to understand these people, and you NEED to be patient with them.
Yes, obviously if someone kills/abuses/etc someone out of bigotry you hold them legally accountable, I'm not saying no punishment for racists. But when 90% of them are mostly hot air repeating the same shit they've been hearing for 20+ years? You have to give them room to grow and change, and that's never going to happen without patience, understanding, and compassion.
You HAVE to close the gap.
I seriously want to thank you for this video. Although I may not and probably won't be a communist, self identifying myself with social democracy viewpoints, this really clarifies what CRT is, and what or how marxism has to do with it. Not much, but I do know now that marxism wasn't really more of a call for violence than it was an in-depth study and critique of capitalism, and predictions on how the working class would have to or want to spark a revolution. This is really informative.
Great. What is it, then?
This videos doesn't actually clarifies anything about CRT. It's yet another video of a apologist trying to tell us that what we're seeing in front of our eyes isn't what we're seeing in front of our eyes.
@@edd1EroxPwDblah do you even know what CRT or are you just talking out of your ass?
@@edd1EroxPwDblah keep huffing that copium, racist.
CRT is anti Communist because no communist nation would put up with it. Hugo Chavez, or Fidel Castro would never let guys Shaun King, and Hassan Piker walk around free
Good video.
I have rarely heard a defense of nor an attack of CRT that made me feel the speaker had any clue. But I can say that back in 2002 I took two college classes that supposedly discussed it. I have no idea to what degree those professors correctly understand the theory but in my opinion they were two of the most racist professors I ever sat under. So sad to say, the academic environment is not doing an adequate job teaching CRT.
Be that as it may, academic integrity, does not exempt any theory in any discipline from being examined and finding possible faults within it. But when a theory is misrepresented and taught or objected to by people who do not understand it, it is not surprising that confusion results.
Now my main problem with CRT has nothing to do with CRT itself, rather it has to do with how CRT is embraced and applied by people who think they know it well. It seems to me they are constantly conflating our legal and societal dynamics with personal deliberate intent both in how they often perceive all whites as irreparably racist in attitude and all people of color as incapable of being racist in any manner. As I understand it, a racist person is a different dynamic from the dynamics that acclimate us to the structures of normative societal contexts. A racist structure is not a person and a racist person is not a structure. Yes they have bi-directional influence. CRT as I understand it seeks to explain the framework of sustained social norms. Seems to me, that without regard to how valid CRT is, that the sustained dynamics do beg of an explanation.
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Me(a new vegas veteran): oh he means Caesar. He definitely means Caesar.
WC: Marx
Me(an idoiot): oh yeah that makes a lot more sense.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
... What in the goddamn?
Critical Race Applied Principles
Check out Thomas Sowell’s book “Intellectuals and Race,” which was released in 2013. Critical Race Theory is explored in it. It will certainly help frame things in a much better fashion for you. The jovial gloss of this video was entertaining for sure, but the idea and issue is worth a clearer and less biased gaze.
Thomas Sowell? I thought you wanted a less biased gaze.
@@noeltaylor3594 well said. Thanks for helping me to see my own. All the best to you.
@@noeltaylor3594 CRT is what happened to the natives-- leftists only replaced the church and residential schools on reservations. They only build cheap schools on reservations to deny special education needs of welfare cases multiplying unabounded. The few that do make it through are lobbied and ushered by there own professors into social justice where they return home unqualified to aid illiterate children with math. Youth are committing suicide with no history of abuse or drugs or alcohol at an unprecedented rate.
Sowell unbiased lmao
Weird how he didn't address concerns by the conservative black man that he had on screen during his voice over in the beginning.
Side note, if anyone has a hard time understanding Hegelian Phenomenology, there's an essay by Maurice Merleau-Ponty called "The World of Perception" (which is itself kind of like a synopsis for Merleau-Ponty's "Phenomenology of Perception"). It's a lot less dense and easier to get into phenomenological thought processes as a primer to understanding Hegel.
Well-written comment. Thanks. I'll check out this literature when I get the chance.
If you can not explain your theory so a child can understand maybe you are just full of shit.
What.
@Susan VanDeventer Iverson Anti-Critical Race Theory person: "What do you mean you think the sky isn't blue?"
Me, living down wind of a giant wildfire: "I dunno, man. It looks pretty red to me."
I think this is an adequate metaphor for the current state of the country.
This guy uses big words. Everyone listen he’s wicked smart.
Oof, Hegel. I struggled with him as a first year. I remember cursing the names of all German philosophers in my history class when my prof explained a Hegelian dialectic by drawing a spiral on the board and saying, "get it?" No...
I guess the anti-socialism rhetoric in the US was getting tired. Gotta spice it up with confusing Hegel to get people all riled up.
Look, I'm a public school teacher. I teach high school history. I do not have the time or patience to even attempt to explain Hegel to kids. I'm busy desperately trying not to breath too deeply while surrounded by 30 masked teenagers in a germ fermentation box and also teach them about the electoral process.
We thank you for your service.
This exactly. I’m a sub teacher. Kids barely understand what reconstruction is, they aren’t going to get or care enough to try to get the ideas behind the Frankfurt school.
@@Kaanfight 'care enough' being the operative phrase.
@@Kaanfight They don't have to teach CRT, they just have to practice it.
@@The6thMessenger nice moving the goalpost. How do you practice a legal system of analysis in a fucking high school? If you think black kids get away with shit more than white kids do or something like that I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Brings back my post grad memories. Good times indeed, reading the Frankfurt School and Critical theory.
It makes no sense to disregard CRT criticism basing it on an analysis of a dumb guy's podcast. Also, although it started as a legal term, CRT's use has broadend to education, so it also doesn't make sense to disregard the discussion based on its origin and not its development. I'd suggest to anyone who is truly interested on this debate to watch the Munk Debate on this topic, as it is explored by two people who are a bit more informed on what they're talking about than said podcaster.
Disclaimer: Black guy raised in upper middle class.
I am personally undecided on CRT as I don't know much about it and agree it is used as a boogie man, but at the same time all I saw were examples of people talking around it and not actually what it was. You did briefly touch upon on it, but I would have liked to see a deeper dive of what these philosophies would look like in practical use and also criticism. In the future I would like to see good faith criticism of certain philosophies as most have serious flaws or issues that need to be considered as well. Though I do agree, often times CRT and the other topics such as socialism and Marx are miscategorized and misused though personally I disagree with both.
I hope this video helps
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The idea why no one knows what crt is is because so that they can rewrite it at any time someone wants to criticize it. It is impossible to fight something you can't pinpoint. I don't know if this is true
the reason people tend to relate this to Marx (and this is coming from a right winger so Im biased to a certain degree) is because it switches the opressor-opressed Marxist ideology with a new opressor but its not the burgoise or the rich is the white man. If thats not racist I dont know what is
@@angrychair5864 stop playing you haven't read Marx
@@SlaughterHouseEducation thats true. But am I wrong tho ?
I taught for 31 years, this year was the first time I ever heard of CRT. I think those parents in Florida should be more concerned about their children being taught anything at all. Every time I had a student who moved from Florida, they alway talked about how bad the schools were.
Lol man that made me laugh way harder than it should have
Some people get immensely offended when you try to push selflessness and self awareness upon them. It’s truly something astonishing.
Or discrimination in the form of discriminaton
Critical race theory is about 'group' awareness, not self awareness.
Current CRT situation is an example of knowing a bunch of buzzwords, and having just enough knowledge about them to be extremely dangerous in exactly the wrong way.
That situation where the more you hear the person speaking, the more you realize they have less than zero understanding of what they are talking about
Dunning-Kruger effect 🤷🏻♀️
Critical Race Theory - An Introduction by Jean Stefancic and Richard Delgado: "Although CRT began as a movement in the law, it has rapidly spread beyond that discipline."
CRT is misused to the point of being racist instead of working against of racism. "Positive" discrimination and quotas.
@@principleshipcoleoid8095 positive discrimination has always and will always exist same with quotas this language none of these are inherently bad ur just scared of the words
@@blackvlogs3239 What a terrible argument.
@@blackvlogs3239 qoutas and discrimination (rather u label it positive or not its simply discrimination) are always racist/sexist by nature depending on what they target. U shouldnt defend it u should oppose it.
@@blackvlogs3239 I mean, your first point and your second point don't really correlate. Or at least, the first one doesn't cause the other. And also, neither positive discrimination nor quotas have "always existed". That's just factually incorrect. And why aren't they bad, and why do you think people are "just scared of the words" rather than actually having opposing viewpoints? You really left me with a lot of questions here.
“You know a lot about this, actually” 🥴🤡
There are so many Black people who are against this but are afraid to speak out.
New Title - I react to some amateur philosopher that I don’t like’s 4 hour podcast on CRT
Wisecrack asks, "Do these people know what they are talking about?"
My response:
Short answer: No
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
they do know what they talk about. Marx looks at the world and its history by humans divdeded by class. CRT looks at it by humans divded by race. Both say there are always groups discriminated and opressed and thus those groups should rise to create utopia without defining how.
@@worstelldaniel No, not really. But I'm sure you think Marx, who was a lazy, spoiled mooch who came from money, was correct.
@@worstelldaniel if other races are imposing beliefs and restrictions on another, then the race imposing is not being oppressed
@@worstelldaniel yes how dare the native culture of a nation welcome immigrants to its shores and then encourage them to adopt said cultural practices in the interest of promoting unity and peace. How fascist.
@@worstelldaniel native culture to a nation. Nation being the US. I never said native culture to the land. Read.
If you’re going to try and assert that nothing has evolved with regards to fair treatment under the law in the West I’m ending the conversation right now. We don’t live in colonial America. We don’t live in Jim Crow. We don’t live in a system imbued with pseudo-Marxist racial substructures, and no American who can see the world beyond the colour of their skin understands that - which is why the second anyone actually understands what CRT is they chase it away with pitchfork. It’s anti-western, anti-liberal, insidious.
Thank you for this content. In the USA, every time a breakthrough occurs in civil rights, a reaction takes place that attempts to either erase or distort it into unintelligibility. This is an Hegelian tension (lol).
It’s because the days of old are in their death throes.
Critical race theory will be left in the ash can of History no matter who ends up running the country. It simply is not compatible with the values of liberalism has exposed by John Stewart Mill.
@@zaczane It's like a rabid dog in a way; always ever at its most dangerous just before it dies.
@@Iamwolf134 BINGO!
Actually it’s an example of a dialectic’s thesis-antithesis in action! I mean that sincerely. No new idea comes rapidly into the public consciousness without an equality or perhaps more extreme reaction opposing it. And over time the concern about the idea and those pushing for the change eventually articulate themselves in view of the public in media and discourse, we end up with a synthesis in the mainstream and reasonably moderate acceptance of the change is desirable and fair.
Yea, we always will have extremes pushing for crazy stuff like the existential suicide version of eco politics in the anti-Natalists, or the white identity ppl who want to make a “divided but equal” realignment of the states populations, and these ppl will probably never accept anything reasonable from anyone, but your average American truly is live and let live. I think it’s pretty visible if just go out and talk to most people.
I'm sad that CRT doesn't stand for Cathode Ray Tube anymore.
People always misreference the 3/5 compromise. The video says that its reasonable to look at the historical and structural racism built into the legal system to fix it because, "It was not that long ago that black people were legally considered 3/5th a person." I just wanted to clarify the 3/5 compromise because people seem to misunderstand it. When forming the constitution, it was actually the South that wanted Slaves to count as a full person for the purposed of a states total population because that would mean they had more seats in the House of Representatives. Free states did not want slaves to be counted as a full person because that meant the Slave states would have more influence in the federal government. The compromise was that 3/5 of each state's slave population counted toward that state's total population for the purpose of apportioning the House of Representatives. This rule only applied to slave populations, not free black people. It did not mean that black people as individuals only had 3/5ths the legal rights of a person, whatever that would mean. It was actually in a slaves best interest not to be counted as a person for the purposes of apportionment. It would make more sense for the video to say, "its not that long ago that we had racial slavery in this country." The 3/5 compromise doesn't really apply to what he is talking about.
As a side note, I miss Jared.
The idea of slavery conflicted with the founding fathers idea of America, that of a country devoted to liberty. The southern delegates (rich plantation owners) did not want to let go of their slaves, after all that’s how they got so rich. They threatened to secede if America was to get rid of slavery. So it was decided to let the south have slaves in order to keep America whole.
When it came to representation in government there were two different ideas. The Virginia plan meant representation in proportion to the states population or wealth. You can imagine why the south would want this, they were rich and had plenty of slaves (slaves outnumbered the white pop.) Or the New Jersey plan, which gave states equal representation. There was a compromise, and now we have the House of Representatives (proportionate representation in the house) and Congress (two senators for each state).
The matter of how to determine population was anything but trivial. Having failed to secure the abolishment of slavery, some delegates from the Northern states sought to make representation dependent on the size of a state’s free population. Southern delegates, on the other hand, threatened to abandon the convention if enslaved individuals were not counted. Eventually, the framers agreed on a compromise that called for representation in the House of Representatives to be apportioned on the basis of a state’s free population plus three-fifths of its enslaved population. This agreement came to be known as the three-fifths compromise.
It it important to note that racial prejudice against black people has existed for a long time. Although free, black people did not always have the same freedoms as white people. I also think it’s safe to say an enslaved black person would’ve wanted to be considered a whole person and be free.
Wait, so are you actually trying to say that a country that counted it's black SLAVES as 3/5th's of a person wasn't being racist or monsterous because this was about how they counted their ENSLAVED population?? Are you for real trying to justify why counting a person as not a whole person is okay?? Even if you're just looking at this from a stats perspective it's inherenetly racist & harmful. Slavery inevitabley makes everything it touches evil. Even just things like population counts.
@@lorianabanana6066 Lol that’s not at all what I’m saying, and I don’t know how you could interpret it that way. Weird how people today immediately have an instinct to impose the worst possible interpretation of what people are saying. It’s a small line in the video, but I think the video miss references the 3/5ths compromise, and I wanted to clarify what it means. Im saying the video should should have said, “It wasn’t that long ago that we had racial slavery in this country, and this country didn’t consider these black slaves as people AT ALL.” I think the video was referencing the 3/5ths compromise to try to sound smart, but got it wrong. Which is ironic because the whole video is about criticizing someone for referencing philosophy to try to sound smart when criticising CRT, but getting the philosophy wrong.
To be fair Socrates was very much against democratic institutions
Scorates was all about the imagine secret world and wanted a philopelher rulling class. Yaa
And we can disagree with Socrates whilst listening to and considering his arguments, without resorting to making sure he's silenced by poison, whether of the literal or figurative kind. It's pretty obvious which side of that discussion the 'critics' of CRT come down on.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 we should ignore the Republic and his other works and embrace total skepticism?
@@xunqianbaidu6917 sorry for no being a bit more clear about this. I adhere to the belief that Socrates and Plato were the same person, which I know it's a somewhat controversial topic for some
@@yuvalgabay1023 Seems like you didnt understand Antigone at all.
I'm wondering if the phenomenon (ie people are being systematically educated to view individuals as racists because of their social/ethnic belongings and the like) behind the misnomer actually exists (and would be better called by something else), or is this whole thing just some sort of misunderstanding/narrative created for political purposes?
It’s an intentional narrative created by conservative pundits. One of the main people responsible even openly admits it:
"We have successfully frozen their brand -- 'critical race theory'-- into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand categry. The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think 'critical race theory'. We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans."
-- Tweet by Christopher Rufo, conservative CRT "expert", on Mar 15, 2021
@@IAmNumber4000 Wow, thanks for bringing this to my attention, will definitely be diving into this rabbit hole later.
They switched from saying "Cultural Marxism" to "Critical Race Theory". Why? I don't know. They want to take aim at a new idea/bogeyman. I think Critical Race Theory sounds good. I used to think critical theory sounded cool when I was in college. The transformation of society that it promised...I thought critique of society was a good thing. I was a few steps removed from Adorno...regarding music. Some of the assumptions of critical race theory are challenging. The idea that racism is the way things operate...and not a deviation...but where...in the legal system. This is different than implicit bias. Now, the combination of implicit bias and CRT would make for a society and legal system that are quite racist. Conservatives think this is not so. Usually conservatives want a return to some past historical era (the 1950s)...not the status quo...here...they seem to want the status quo. "Things are working fine. Let's not change them". I don't know how to shake someone out of that way of thinking, and it might be impossible.
Let us know when you come up with something better than the status quo. Which people on your side have not done.
You talk about Critical Race Theory, but my brain goes to cathode-ray tube monitors/tv sets. I'm getting old.
Don’t know why people are making a big fuss about Cathode Ray Tube monitors
Might be off-topic here but regarding four hour podcast I highly recommend the ones by Lex Fridman - more often 2-3 hours but he is an amazing host always leading an insightful discussion that doesn't bore at all.
I strongly suggest people watch Ryan Chapman's video about critical race theory to see how marxism and the new left of the 60s plays into it
Why wasn't the first thing offered as an argument to the statement of children being corrupted by CRT in school, CRT is only taught in collegiate law school. Whether or not it's based on Hegel or anything else becomes irrelevant.
Marx would likely only understand/focus on the class reductionist lens of racial conflict, as opposed to focusing on the racial component at large, as Marx’s biggest problem was that he was tunnel-visioned on class conflict more than anything else.
I'm not much of a Marx ultra fan myself, there's something... Off about the Marx worship. Man wasn't perfect within theory or without, and I agree with you for the most part. Buuuuuuut, I'd still argue that class struggle has the lions share of "things that would pave the way for equality" in my book too.
@@Onii_Chan_Kenobi That’s absolutely true. Class and race interact pretty harshly, but I think Marx would not able to focus on anything else.
@@brutusmagnuson315
It was kind of his biggest flaw. It's subjective of course (man's was a bit rac1st himself) but his focus on class conflict with little to no intersectionality was a huge bullet in the foot of him being universally accepted in progressive ideology
@@Onii_Chan_Kenobi Probably because "intersectionality" is meaningless. The only oppressor is he who has either political power or access to means of production; in other words, the ruling class. No inherent characteristic of oppressors is politically and socially relevant other than their temporary status as a member of the ruling class. "Intersectionality" is one of the reasons why the proletariat is weaker than ever, reaching dangerously low levels of class awareness since they are now bombarded with meaningless grouping such as those based on ethnicity or sexuality. The rejection of traditional marxist philosophy by the modern left has been central in the degradation of workers rights and benefits and the lack of resistance against the ever increasing political control of corporations. The modern left is, wittingly or unwittingly, an ally to the ruling class.
Marx was a German author and heavily influenced by the society he grew up in. Working class people in Germany back then were the descendants of commoners, serfs and classless people, whereas the bourgeoisie were nobles. Said nobles generally believed that they were genetically superior to working class people, using this belief as a justification for their power during the 19th century.
In German racism, "race" is mainly tied to class rather than skin color which is also why German racism is strongly targeting people who aren't Western Christian as non-Christians were considered classless during the rule of nobility.
I was convinced about the talking heads on fox about Marx until when I took philosophy and actually read Marx. The idiots throwing out Marxism around loosely like it’s profanity remind me of the allegory of the cave as the idiots who see the shadow and don’t complete understand , not just Marxism but philosophy in a broad sense
What’s not to understand where Marx’s goes a famine follows
@@jackrodriguez3404 So you don't understand Marx.
His works talk about concepts like the idea of workers owning the means of production instead of just some rich asshole. So quite a lot about his work you don't understand clearly. There's literally nothing in there that's remotely evil or nefarious, you've been lied to and indoctrinated about Marxism for decades and you somehow think its the Marxists that control education.
It is you who do not understand. Yes I read it. But it isn't in dispute that he had a noble ideal. The problem is human nature. If you give people the extreme of socialism, it disincentivizes them to strive for the exceptional, they end up just being a bunch of lazy bums. And if you let the state do everything, it does it very badly. Those are details that were not even in the scope of consideration of Marx. Humans thrive in a bit of adversity. Tough love. Suffer if you don't earn your keep, and keep the products of your own labor. And if you let the government do everything, then everything becomes like the DMV. There are some things that should be socialized, and there are some things that should be left to the free market.
The problem with CRT is not the philosophy itself but rather how it's applied. Take, for example, how it was applied at Evergreen College, especially a couple years ago, the students taking over the campus and imposing an authoritarian imperative that the school adhere to their view of the world, literally, holding the president hostage in a classroom, not allowing him to go to the bathroom, calling him on "micro-aggressive " hand gestures.
It made national news and did nothing to further critical race theory as a particular, reasonable pov.
Check out what happened at Evergreen College a couple years ago, there are plenty of videos on it. Fox News picked up the debacle as a way of discrediting the left." ... Authoritarian leftism uses critical race theory to further a military, exclusionary, self-righteous intolerant methodology.
The average person sees this and says: look at the left, look how race is being used. Post-modernism contains a growing number of people who are aut4horitarian leftist and that's doing no good for what genuine leftist movements are hoping to accomplish.
That's exactly what genuine leftists are trying to accomplish. I don't like looking at people in a simplistic manner, but sometimes it's as simple as simple can get. This is one of those cases. Voters support politicians to gain access to promised "benefits", no matter the party. Politicians then work towards the promise if it's beneficial to their gaining of power, if not, they discard it like they discard other promises they make. That's why I think politicians should legally declare their promises before running so they think twice before lying or exaggerating.
This channel is much better when working in an objective and multi-sided context
Lmao
The problem is there is not two sides to this, one side is just objectively incorrect.
Which would be your side, right? Well see the problem is we have all these other people on the other side who think the exact same thing, and I'm just not sure what to do about them.
@@CBlade0 “those” people are incorrect, and more often than not, refuse to listen to the truth. The problem is one side is outraged over CRT being taught to children, while they themselves do not know what CRT even is. The opposite side has to somehow dumb down a theory, taught exclusively in law schools at a postgraduate college level, so that the other side understands why it isn’t what they think it is nor is it being used in K-12 curriculums.
re 4 hour podcasts: I strongly recommend hardcore history and anything else by dan carlin!
You’re gonna talk about willful mischaracterization and then in the very next breath pretend you don’t get what Lindsay means when he uses the word religion in this context? C’mon bro
Well what did he mean? And does clarifying this mischaracterization make his points any more correct?
@@juliencotton3095 Lindsay means that most ‘woke’ people dogmatically hang on to their critical views with unjustifiable certainty (which are not based on empirical evidence or the epistemically theory of empiricism at all), believe and espouse a kind of eschatology, believe in and espouse a kind of “original sin,” -!: engage in intense self-flagellation. At least, that’s what I THINK he means.
"The point of CRT is to make 'race' the central construct for understanding inequality"
Gloria Ladson-Billings, Toward a Critical Race Theory of Education (1995)
Please do a vid explaining and discussing CRT in more detail. I love you guys and find your videos very enlightening. However mugging off spuddy racists who are against CRT is setting the bar quite low. I can't imagine Wiscrack producing a vid treating CRT enthusiasts with the disdain levelled at some of the anti-CRT view expressed in this video (albeit deservedly in most/all cases). I love Wisecrack for it's philosophical cross examination of concepts, and would be interested to see how CRT stands under that same sceptical analysis.
So anyone who is against CRT is "racist"? that just makes you ignorant bordering on stupid.
You have to literally NOT be a racist to be against CRT. CRT IS racial Marxism.
Marx overtly called for violent revolution
The means of production will not be seized by its self.
@@pathevermore3683 It'll never happen, LARPer.
@@eyedine that's what they said about the trump cult and a coup before last January.
He doesn't know anything. He is just another white guilt leftist who is trying to excuse his failed philosophy diploma learning about socialism.
@@danhair thanks.
As a teacher and philosophy grad, that hurt my head. Where are people learning Hegel in k-12? I also got traumatic flashbacks of having a paper due on Hagel and I definitely didn't do the reading 😭😭😭🤮
It's the praxis of CRT that for sure has gotten into the lower education system. Parents everywhere are speaking out against it.
@@guch0902 delusional racist
This talk about CRT reminds me of a common trope I see in anime and video games where the protagonist faces off against his biggest challenge yet, his or her dark self.
America: "No! This can't be me! I'm a good person! I would never embrace evil."
Dark America: "There's no denying it! We are the same person after all! The hatred, the greed, the corruption, and the darkness. WE ARE ALL THOSE! AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!"
America: "NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Dark America: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Themes of CRT as listed in "Critical Race Theory: An Annotated Bibliography" by Delgado and Stefancic:
1. Critique of liberalism
2. Storytelling/"naming one's own reality"
3. Revisionist interpretations of American civil rights law and progress (1619 project; anti-incrementalism)
4. Greater understanding of the underpinnings of race and racism ("systemic" racism found everywhere they look)
5. Structural Determinism (where anti-meritocracy comes from)
6. Race, sex, class and their intersections ("intersectionality"/queer theory)
7. Essentialism and anti-essentialism (identity politics)
8. Cultural nationalism/separatism (including "black insurrection")
when you think your own version of an imagined table of contents counts as a critique
cringe
"booger-devouring grad student" made me shudder a little
This is the part where we start the petition for Bobby flay to make that show.
No but fr tho
Now I can refer people to this video instead of explaining this to friends and family who are doing a lot of fear mongering.
it's amazing that these parents think teaching kids to think for themselves, do their own research, and to understand that bias exists in written history is just poisoning their kids to become communists when really these kids are being taught to be open minded and form their own opinions
We have curriculum for a fucking reason. Creationism isn't allowed to be taught alongside evolutionary theory, for the same reasons. Crt is not well defined or rigorous enough to included in standard curriculum, or taught as if it were a universally excepted way to analyze our society, because it's not. It's flimsy, and hotly contested.
Everyone is taught to think for themselves, but first you are going to learn the basic curriculum. That's how that works. You can take race relation studies as an elective in High School, or study that shit in college.
To be honest, I think that most opponents of CRT have a completely different definition in their mind versus what CRT actually means. I've seen a lot of conservatives talk about CRT as more of a historical lens rather than a legal lens. For people who don't know what CRT is, I actually think it's confused and associated with the 1619 project in many ways.
Spot on, I don’t think people have a problem with the legal side of it, it’s just the historical lens constantly being shoved down people’s throats and then the really hardcore defenders of it attacking anyone who tries to understand the actual historical context instead of writing important figures off for doing what everyone did at the time.
It sucks that playing the devils advocate is necessary just to look at a balanced view of history. Some understanding that people in general have tribalistically hated each other since the dawn of time really puts some perspective to the bent focus on race, privilege, and gender nowadays.
@@willmungas8964 History isn’t all puppies and rainbows. I know it may be upsetting for to finally be told this, but it’s a fact that the history of the US is centred around the use of racist laws. A “balanced” view of history only serves to protect your romanticized version of history.
@@alexj7440 excuse me? I never said that. I specifically said on the subject of laws that this is a good thing. What I’m saying people complain about is being taught to think of everything as a product of isms and therefore only ever looking at certain groups of people as victims (and constantly being told all white people are privileged oppressors). It’s just very far off from what even MLK stood for, and I vastly prefer to accept that throughout history humans have hated each other, including humans of the same race, and that a systematic form of this against a specific people only really showed up with the Colombian exchange. And even then African tribes were going to war with each other just to sell each other as slaves! The point is it’s overly simplifying what are often complex historical contexts to only look at things as a product of race, and history is a very deep and rich well of (often horrible) details that cannot be understood properly unless you take a more complex look at it than that.
@@willmungas8964 I'm aware of the historical conflicts between different groups, even aware of Bacon's Rebellion and the psychological bomb dropped on both the white and black communities thereafter. However, idk how you fix the problems by saying "it is only natural." It is only natural may give you perspective on the issue and grant one access to calmer angles into arguments but it doesn't fix the psychological inclinations of those who have been programmed to feel a certain way about certain "races."
We are wise enough to systemically escape other lizard brain activities yet we're not allowed to call out how primitive superficial (color) tribal pattern recognition techniques are.
Furthermore the black community seems to misunderstand how they are in fact doubling down on such tribal techniques while arguing for their dissolution.
The black community must find a way to dissolve these external attitudes without taking on the attitude's mode of persuasion.
For me I think it starts with the revamping of the public image, so that the most visible Representatives of the community are mostly those that showcase expressions of the "individual" or even those who seem to be driven by “lateral thought.”
@@willmungas8964 MLK was an anti war socialist who was literally on record said he was starting to regret what he said in his “I Have A Dream” speech because he didn’t believe it was possible. He also said that white moderates were the biggest threat to the freedom of black people, he probably would’ve supported CRT tbh.
I think a point of confusion on CRT is the pop-verion of CRT that is most often encountered in day-to-day social and para-social interactions; and the academic theory which is nuanced enough to have both positive and negative evidence for and against it.
The pop-version is almost always used as a gotcha argument in a post-hoc fashion. In the hands of the public CRT has become a tool of the political tribe with which to bludgeon to death opposition; mirroring the way in which pop-psychology and pop-sociological have been used historically. To those being bludgeoned the origins of the tool and its merits are lost in the more immediate desire to end the bludgeoning.
The irony being that much like calls for disarmament and legal paternalism that the right so eagerly call out as authoritarian is remarkably similar to the logic they to apply to that which poses a threat to them. The Right treating CRT like the left treats firearms; by ignoring the person misusing the thing. XD
Pop progressivism... Yea, you're right that's a huge part of the problem...
We see it in the other movements too, where once the members gain a semblance of equality they begin to engage in narcissistic special pleading in order to maintain the tool of the movement as a weapon....
The academic version is just more careful about not sounding extremely racist. It's not nuanced, guy, it's word play and extremely racist! You probably sat there thinking that positive discrimination isn't a zero sum game right? lol
in fact i would say you all need to watch this video. It explains a lot of things and why as a matter of fact the three of you are wrong (all people until now except for quidnunc).
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@@quidnunc01 I actually do encounter it fairly regularly, where people spout some talking point they learned from pop culture but which they dont actually comprehend, usually as a means to silence or attack the 'Other'....
Really its just classic human behaviour and its absurd that anyone expects any different, even from those who were historically marginalized etc.... They're still just humans, so once they do 'defeat' systemic issues they will attempt to maintain anything which provides advantage at that point, just like all humans have since civilization started....
Of note is that just because the systemic issues are still extant doesn't mean that one cannot fall to the same personal failings which may occur after those issues are resolved, meaning that even now people will twist the very real academic discourse for their own purpose (consciously or otherwise).
All this to explain the part of the source of the implicit bias of the people discussed, in that they will engage in lie by omission or other maleficence in order to maintain their personal status quo - effectively a form of conservatism, regardless of how liberal the person claims to be.
@@quidnunc01 Go read this, guy: "Twenty Years of Critical Race Theory: Looking back to Move Forward Commentary: Critical Race Theory: A Commemoration: Forward Commentary: Critical Race Theory: A Commemoration: Lead Article"
It by one of the founders of CRT and she can't keep complaining about "colorblindness" not allow her to implement racist policies.
I understand the skepticism. In the past, we have implemented many programs in our school system that backfired that had good intentions, but hellish results. Such as the D.A.R.E program: Teaching kids to say no to drugs, to only see kids wanting to legalize pot, and an opium crisis growing in America.
We share the same train of thought, our institutions spend more time teaching us what to think without meaningful relatable context when they should be teaching us how to think for ourselves. No one truly learns anything meaningful with the former, and the latter is what allows us to grow into understanding who we are and where we fit in the world. Maybe it’s just me, but the latter sentiment helped me become a person who can see myself in others and subsequently led to the acceptance of others through the acceptance of myself. People weren’t deterred from drugs with DARE, and I’m afraid that the same result will play out with racism and CRT. Maybe there are a few awesome teachers who will go beyond the lesson plan and delve deeper into organically teaching students to think for themselves, but unfortunately those teachers are few and far between.
@@mattmolloy636 .
Consider that old PSA, where the dealer turns into a lizard person. I got the message pretty clearly. Dealers are bad people who do not care if you live or die. Others, they think to themselves, 'dealers aren't lizard people, so drugs must be good.' Those people we must generously assume were often dropped on their heads as babies.
Wow. You kind of missed a few steps there. Like people learning and understanding understanding the basis and history of criminalization of Marijuana as a tool for race-based oppression, from before the Zoot Suit Riots to Nixon. And then the Opiod epidemic were more the problem created by the boomers and early Gen X-aged people inside the pharmaceutical industry than the students who attended D.A.R.E. (usually millenials or late Gen X).
So... Yeah.
D.A.R.E. was never intended to help, just like abstinence only education wasn't ever about preventing teen pregnancy. They are, and always have been, about control and moral policing.
I believe “Never let the truth get in the way of a good story” applies when dealing with the CRT panic
I believe...it's antiwhite bullshit.
Well CRT is, after all, to let historical events be dominated by a racial narrative. Ultimately, CRT is just one of many ways to tell a story.
@@JanLCn "Historical events" pah! That's a good one. It's anti-white narrative designed to abuse kids and teens so they support their own displacement.
@@quesocoatl21 that's what I said, a narrative is just a another way to tell a story. I rather people learn facts about events, and not about what who thinks what drives the motivations of people in history.
Some of the worst kinds of history are done when people go like, oh Hitler became a sociopath because of an abusive father, but doted on by his mother.
@@quesocoatl21 - "It's anti-white narrative"
Oh shut up, "white" doesn't even mean anything. Not too long ago Italians and Irish weren't considered "white". Are slavs white? What about Greeks? Spaniards? It just shows how arbitrary and pointless the "white" label is and how sensitive and fragile you are for being so offended that teachers are telling students historical facts about white colonialism and chattel slavery.
Somehow you forgot to mention marcuse calling for revolution, Delgado and Stefanic saying CRT is revolutionary, Gramsci saying the learning institutions must be used to instill communist ideology in the culture, and how Kimberlé Crenshaw clearly said it is important a person identify as a black person rather than a person who happens to be black. You also ignored the difference between theory and praxis.
Communists are like toddlers with chocolate all over their faces, looking up at you and saying 'what cake? I didn't eat any cake!'
@@loud6037 and then saying, “Share your cake!” when you have no cake.
I know, right? very convenient.
@@KrovMalenkov301 I take comfort in knowing that at least they will be as miserable in their new utopia as the rest of us. 😭🤣
Yeah seriously, I don’t think this guy read any of the books on critical race theory. Sounds like he just read the wiki page.
Saying people shouldn’t think dialectically is essentially the main villainous purpose of many dystopian novels. We think dialectically just by meeting a new person.
Also thinking dialectically isn’t like thinking like ying vs yang, it thinking of both of them as part of a bigger whole. Sometimes people think about it as a cycle like trying to get oneself to be healthy or go to the gym where the actual challenges don’t come from particular traits of a person but because they haven’t ironed out the contradiction, likely over working out or over dieting when in that side of the dialectic, rather than pacing and managing oneself. Seeing oneself as in a cycle of intensifying contradiction between the obsession to be healthy and the limits of ones own energy. It’s not specifically an act of individual argumentation between members of a social group, but the constant incoherence in ones or many’s self concept being brought to the fold, essentially forcing that persons or people to have to confront there incoherence. The bigger thing to see though is that the axioms of the contradiction or incoherence are necessary for the formation of the self concept. So a really easy one is that you could probably ask most people if they have some form at some level of social Ill, being awkward, anxious, neurotic, etc. and from most people you would get yes as an answer if you dug deep enough. This is because the idea of feeling accepted or recognized requires it’s opposite, the feeling of having no place to belong. What I’m trying to say is that a person never exists in either or of those but simultaneously, the willingness to strive comes from producing the concept that we ourselves are not worthy of this thing. Explaining why most people would say they have social issues, in their striving for acceptance they substantiate the conclusion of the opposite of what they want.
Now Hegel himself was deeply conservative and racist, yet he is used by every kind of leftist, especially Marxist. What happened? Well, he is also used by more conservative thinkers like Nietzsche and Heidegger. Wanna know why? because the philosophy behind the dialectic is fundamental to most of modern philosophy. It doesn’t take up a political opinion, it is a way of thinking about how human concepts are created. Now many observant individuals noticed with the dialectic that it’s method of argumentation is an incredible model to understand how cycles of violence continue, sound a lot like understanding why racism continues to propagate throughout history? Many colonized people took up Hegel’s form of thought to understand their plight better and how to work against it. Even one of the most fundamental contradictions Hegel lays out, between the self and the other, pushes towards trying to see oneself in the other, or if not endless conflict. I don’t know about you but to me that sounds like we should strive towards treating every person, no matter there racial background, as if they are like the rest of us or expect conflict. Now Hegel believed that these colonized people were lesser beings then him, like a pet or something, and so didn’t think that it was possible for us or them to share a full understanding between one another. The dialectic doesn’t suppose a sense of racial equality but if that is supposed the dialectic has been incredibly useful in analyzing the history of racial violence.
Oh yeah lastly the people that thought up CRT aren’t like Franz Fanon, they’re concerned lawyers in a crumbling and racist justice system. They aren’t using dialectics to come to there conclusion, they are just seeing facts of history and using those to understand why it’s likely racialized people are less well off and therefore misrepresented in a justice system. There is no obvious dialectic between the self and the other in context of a racial hierarchy here, I would say one could certainly analyze that situation in that way, but that hypothesis is not necessary for that conclusion. All these CRT people are saying is that it’s important to understand the effects of our history, this doesn’t require us to see history as cyclical because included in every states self concept is it’s own irrelevance, it just requires us to see that history doesn’t suddenly disappear with a few documents.
Thank you!
I love this channel so much. And I love the fact that you've included bibliography even more. Geez, I'm falling hard for you.
When I was getting my teacher certification, we were taught "we are agents of change" we are teaching kids to think out of the box so that they can better society. IMO, in order to do that kids need to learn real history (not rewritten history by the ones it was about) so that they can decide for themselves what is best. This thinking is not taught in elementary school, but in middle school the touch on who people in history were and what they thought - as you go through the levels of education your knowledge grows, and thus you critical thinking skills grow.
Yes exactly
How much training in academic CRT, psychology, and/or counseling are you planning on seeking before trying to teach this difficult subject? I love academic CRT (most brilliant thing I’ve read about the effect of racism on society), but the pop culture CRT that enthusiasts espouse is at the very least harmful in its imprecision, and often straight up wrong. I am in a Masters program at a semi-prestigious university, and even here about 1/3 of my professors horribly mishandle CRT. I have minimal faith in the average high school teacher to effectively and constructively teach CRT.
But hasn't this this been going on already? The boomers made a huge point since the 60s to point out the shortcomings in white people and western culture. We now have a generation of naive, often self-loafing people with a very warped one-sided world view. (Take the wave of SJWs for instance)
@@thrawncaedusl717 from what I understand CRT is basically only taught in law school. I'm not going to teach any crt, I'm certified up to 8th grade.
@@texmom7841 That's a lie. The foundation of CRT is a model to view history with. That model has been passed down through higher-academia and has made it into school plans as concepts like "privilege" or "white guilt."
Heyo, I know this is a Philosopher Reacts video so maybe this suggestion doesn't fit the format, but maybe when you're looking at dense sub-topics to explain larger culture trends in the future, it would be better to start with those videos about what the larger culture trend actually is and then go into the theory, rather than putting the basic explanation at like 14:00. That would be easier for me at least to put the rest of it into context? Idk
Yeah but supporters of this stuff purposefully make it confusing. If they laid out their entire spiel clearly for people, everyone would rightfully be outraged and make moves to shut this bullshit down. So they misdirect, mislead, lie, obfuscate, etc..
@@SineEyed they do lay it out clearly, it'd be evident to everyone if this philosopher actually gave a good faith presentation on James Lindsay's arguments.
@@TheFleckboyz if you're referring to instances in the literature of critical social justice where they clearly outline their beliefs, values, and goals, then I can't really disagree. I guess what I was saying is that those instances are peppered in to a large set of rather obscure academic articles which most people are never gonna read. Like... 99.5% of people will never read them. And 99.9% will never read each one that contains an individual instance of their goals or whatever, such that they'll put together a comprehensive view of those things in their heads.
I was imagining taking all of those instances where they show their hand, laying them out all next to each other or formatted in a way that any average Joe or Jane wouldn't have any trouble seeing exactly what's going on. That's what I meant by "laying out their entire spiel clearly for people"..
I've honestly come to believe that those who yell the loudest are the ones who know the least
That's a BAR!!!
Often true, but not always. The big problem with the "yelling really loudly" form of argumentation is that it basically becomes a type of bullying others into agreeing with you or staying silent, which causes dissent and anger instead of constructive discussion. And this is done by people on all sides of the political spectrum.
That's often true, if you need to yell your point louder means you're frustrated and it might stem from lack of arguments. Which is precisely why the figure of the 'provocateur' exists (aka trolls).
People like Jordan Peterson have made a career of saying extremely provocative/obnoxious things while appearing calm and composed. Imagine having Holocaust survivor family members and having listen as someone describes the Holocaust as a side effect of Hitler's obsession with cleanliness, despite well-documented pogroms and religious antisemitic propaganda for 2000 years. Not all who are outraged are wrongly so.
You have to consider whether the person that's doing the provocation is being intelectually honest or looking for attention or making their debater look bad.
100%!!!
First time I've heard the name Bobby Flay in years, and I would ABSOLUTELY LISTEN to that podcast if it existed
Bobby Flay is a god.
As a teacher I can confirm Wisecrack has been killing it lately. Very happy to watch them evolve over the years.
Working my way through a book called Lies My Teacher Told Me. Based on what you have shown us and what I have read from that book so far, I'm leaning towards we are just very uncomfortable with the idea that our country is not the bright and shining star most of us were taught it was. Couple that with the idea that if we show any sort of blemish, we would be undermining our society and chaos would run rampant. Though from my perspective, chaos is running rampant now but on a stance of "Won't some body please think of the children!"
Contrast that to Germany, where kids learn about the darker histories of their country so they know not to repeat it
I believe America is actually not the bright shiny star. As a foreigner that lived here for years one thing that a lot of ppl would dislike about America is their arrogant and horribly misled patriotism. It’s great to love ones country, but it’s another to be completely blinded and refuse to concede to the fact that the country you love can be terrible. My friends from England, Spain, South Africa, Taiwan, Japan, and Middle East would make the same observation: Americans are arrogant. America became a intellectual, cultural, political, and military superpower due to the immense luck it had as a safe haven of liberty and freedom from WWII ravaging across Asia and Europe (especially Europe, the previous superpowers). It sheltered Holocaust survivors, Chinese refugees from Japanese and CCP, genocides in Africa, civil unrest in South America, and all out war in Europe. These intellectuals then went on to do amazing things in America because they have the time and resources and safety to do so. And it is this exact “American Dream” that keeps bringing people to its shores almost 100 years later. But as America’s major issues get exposed starting from Trump, the world will begin to realize that America is not as good as it is, and slowly the same ppl they try to attract from the rest of the world will go elsewhere in the world. It will be the end of America if it becomes a Christian extremist state, and that idea is already entering mainstream in one of the two major political parties.
@@JustThatOneRandomGuy patriotism: being a member of a nation. You seem to be confusing statolitry: state worship, with being a patron of a nation. I blame Bush Jr. for this, funny to see it from another nation.
@@Shiro_Amada I define patriotism as an immense love for ones nation, though there are several different shades of this. A step up from that is nationalism, but I didn’t want to define Americans as nationalist because they certainly aren’t.
@@JustThatOneRandomGuy I don't journey to the United States so far, but the "American experiment" proven that a civili democracy could be succesful. However now other ideologies also spreading. Can only use my country as example: in 2015 when Viktor Orban's government closed the border to the assylum seekers they not simply used legal reasons to do so(which I actually agreed) but also capitalized people's fears and a culture war narrative. My country was actually on the side of the Axis Powers, and that history ether romantisized or left out by the new right-wing histiriography which like to victimize my nation. This "city on the hill" historical view was never defined the Hungarian collective memory, but now thsnks to propaganda, our very real revisionism legitimize fake-lore and conspiracy theories in the level of the state.
Would be cool to see a video on CRT itself, if you're going to do a react video on a philosophy programme.
He wouldn't be able to do that and push this sophomoric level of propoganda at the same time.
I agree.
@@guch0902 yeah I've been thinking of unsubbing for a while now because the channel has been showing to be less and less centrist and objective.
I just wanna hear about symbolism in comic book movies, man. Not this guy fucking creaming all over Marx whenever he gets the chance to.
@@josh70924 imagine thinking centrist = objective
@@tinkdnuos did I say that? I said centrist *and* objective. Two different things.
That being said, a centrist is what one ought to be if they intend on remaining objective. When you identify with any particular party you are more likely to put reason aside and choose just to believe whatever arguments your "side" puts forward.
Liberals just hate on centrists because they're not liberal enough for them. It's dumb.
The problem is that crt assumes by default that there are racist structures in these systems of law.
There might be, but a theory that just assumes and then goes out to find and fix anything that could (with some reaching) be considered racist.. seems a bit circular.. it’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy
Can you do a steel man version of this video, your stick men arguments seem pretty easy to knockdown. How would wise crack criticize CRT and how schools are trying to teach aspects of it?
Its been a year so hopefully you have changed your outlook but to answer you question.
He would say, schools aren’t trying to teach aspect of it what are you talking about?