I couldn’t wait for the next series of ‘My Brilliant Friend” to come out so I bought the books and I just finished reading the last one. I absolutely loved it and couldn’t put it down. Thank you Elena whoever you are and just wow!!
I read her books back in 2015 after hearing about her on NPR. They are excellent novels and the characters remind me of my own family which came from Southern Italy.
These men are constantly cutting off the woman panelist. You'll notice that she politely starts to say something and each time, she's talked over. Eventually, around the 13 minute mark, as someone below pointed out, she can talk. Notice how quickly she is talking. This is classic "woman finally gets a chance to talk so she has to say everything fast before she gets cut off again." And this is happening in a talk about Elena Ferrante, of all people?!
"I cannot speak for how it feels for a woman, but certainly as a man"...I can dominate the discussion to the exclusion of Dr. Falkoff, who is reduced to a bobble head...isn't anyone embarassed by this? Minute 13:34, she starts to contribute and the video links cut her off and Dr. Lombardi comes right back in...and I hate to say this, as Dr. Lombardi gives a thoughtful and entertaining commentary. But there is no effort on the part of the moderator to present a balanced show...no self-awareness. This is my first Italics and it is a disappointment. Life imitates art.
The woman professor doesn't get much of a chance to speak, as when she starts talking the men step in. Typical Italian? Ironic since a strong theme in the novel is domestic violence. Here, we didn't get a woman's point of view. She is a professor of Italian and would be knowledgeable about the use of Napolitano and, obviously, domestic violence.
Did you watch the whole interview? They clearly include her in the conversation, she just tends to agree a lot of times and sometimes she even has a little trouble taking up space. But nevermind gender, if one is more eloquent and shares the same ideas as you, you'd find yourself nodding in excited agreement just as well. What a narrowminded comment.
@@someones_daughter_ It's just a comment; you shouldn't assume it is narrow minded. The male speaks much more than the woman. He is glib and bright; she says "yeah", a lot. An impartial viewer might well assume he is brighter than she, and has a bigger vocabulary, but we shouldn't judge a book by the cover, or so we're always prompted. I wish she had spoken up more, but perhaps she felt dominated (I doubt it).
Interesting when talking about gender: the male professor talks over the female professor "mansplaining" . I would have like to have heard more from the female, seeing it's a female theme. Men are still bombastic and selfish when it comes to exchanging ideas. Disappointing. However, very interesting overall.
@@teee1111 I'm not offended by it in the least, just pointing out the obvious in my eyes. Mansplaining is not just explaining but also takes the form of an attitude in how much attention is paid to women's comments, giving them space and equal weight in a forum of this kind. 20 years in Italy having to "earn" the right to be heard at all and be taken seriously has made me notice these nuances.
On the question of anonymity, I cannot help but think that literature throughout the millennia was not interested in the author. Homer was one or many narrators whose cycle lasted a very long time. Socrate thought that writing was overrated, he wanted to talk and convince people with a gentle Socratic method of getting the truth out of people. The Bible itself has writers who do not MARKET themselves, and there are several Isaias and, it's obvious, there are many voices in Genesis often contradicting one another. Harold Blook has come up with the Book of J to try to bring women into the Biblical writing world of antiquity where she must have been and we know nothing about it. The cult of the writer comes at a much later time and is tied to commerce and publishing and making money and manipulating the reader as it tries to pick his pocket.
Female Writer Who Won World's Biggest Literary Prize Turns Out To Be Three Men.... An anonymous writer who has been likened to Italy's pseudonymous Ellena Ferrante was just awarded a €1MM ($1.16MM dollars) literary prize for her dazzling work as a groundbreaking female author. There's only one minor clarification - She is a he. Well, she's actually three men. According to the FT, Carmen Mola, an author who until now has been presented as a female university professor writing under a pen name because of her desire for anonymity (something nobody would question since progressive critics would simply assume she's doing this to protect herself from online hate hate speech), revealed her true identity to the world when the main prize was awarded in the presence of the Spanish King.
Why to read antifeminist behaviour in everything.? Once we recognize certain obvious tendenciesin society why always vfocus on it? It is a bit anoying that emphacise on always talking about how women were second class citizen. Today we are facing a propaganda machine that want to erase the past because it was fair to women or to minorities but that was the past. Today we are taking extreme position. 28:49
How is it appropriation?!?!? It’s a NOVEL. It’s not a memoir. It’s fiction. Authors write stories about other people and stories all the time. She used an Italian alias because she probably didn’t want a bunch of assholes bothering her and it’s an Italian book so pick an Italian name.
If you’re speaking of Anita Raja, no, she’s not a Polish Jew. Her mother was; her father was from Naples. Anita was born in Naples and grew up in Rome. She’s married to another Italian writer. She’s not appropriating anything.
The best analysis of Elena Ferrante's work to date, and I'm completely in love with Ferrante's writing. Thank you. Greetings from Portugal.
I couldn’t wait for the next series of ‘My Brilliant Friend” to come out so I bought the books and I just finished reading the last one. I absolutely loved it and couldn’t put it down. Thank you Elena whoever you are and just wow!!
But so sad... so devastating... i felt this weight in my chest after i finished the books
I read her books back in 2015 after hearing about her on NPR. They are excellent novels and the characters remind me of my own family which came from Southern Italy.
These men are constantly cutting off the woman panelist. You'll notice that she politely starts to say something and each time, she's talked over. Eventually, around the 13 minute mark, as someone below pointed out, she can talk. Notice how quickly she is talking. This is classic "woman finally gets a chance to talk so she has to say everything fast before she gets cut off again." And this is happening in a talk about Elena Ferrante, of all people?!
Great commentary!
Great popular art. I’m just reading The Lost Daughter, which feels like a key to the Neapolitan books.
Elena Ferrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrante
"I cannot speak for how it feels for a woman, but certainly as a man"...I can dominate the discussion to the exclusion of Dr. Falkoff, who is reduced to a bobble head...isn't anyone embarassed by this? Minute 13:34, she starts to contribute and the video links cut her off and Dr. Lombardi comes right back in...and I hate to say this, as Dr. Lombardi gives a thoughtful and entertaining commentary. But there is no effort on the part of the moderator to present a balanced show...no self-awareness. This is my first Italics and it is a disappointment. Life imitates art.
life imitates art
Excellent movie and acting spectacular
The woman professor doesn't get much of a chance to speak, as when she starts talking the men step in. Typical Italian? Ironic since a strong theme in the novel is domestic violence. Here, we didn't get a woman's point of view. She is a professor of Italian and would be knowledgeable about the use of Napolitano and, obviously, domestic violence.
Did you watch the whole interview? They clearly include her in the conversation, she just tends to agree a lot of times and sometimes she even has a little trouble taking up space. But nevermind gender, if one is more eloquent and shares the same ideas as you, you'd find yourself nodding in excited agreement just as well. What a narrowminded comment.
@@someones_daughter_ It's just a comment; you shouldn't assume it is narrow minded. The male speaks much more than the woman. He is glib and bright; she says "yeah", a lot. An impartial viewer might well assume he is brighter than she, and has a bigger vocabulary, but we shouldn't judge a book by the cover, or so we're always prompted. I wish she had spoken up more, but perhaps she felt dominated (I doubt it).
Thanks for this. I've added Ferrante to my reading list and my DVR.
Interesting when talking about gender: the male professor talks over the female professor "mansplaining" . I would have like to have heard more from the female, seeing it's a female theme. Men are still bombastic and selfish when it comes to exchanging ideas. Disappointing. However, very interesting overall.
Excellent movie and acting i enjoyed everything Thank you HBO
@@teee1111 I'm not offended by it in the least, just pointing out the obvious in my eyes. Mansplaining is not just explaining but also takes the form of an attitude in how much attention is paid to women's comments, giving them space and equal weight in a forum of this kind. 20 years in Italy having to "earn" the right to be heard at all and be taken seriously has made me notice these nuances.
There is a moment when she start to talk and there enters a song and after the man talks. We dont listen her.
On the question of anonymity, I cannot help but think that literature throughout the millennia was not interested in the author. Homer was one or many narrators whose cycle lasted a very long time. Socrate thought that writing was overrated, he wanted to talk and convince people with a gentle Socratic method of getting the truth out of people. The Bible itself has writers who do not MARKET themselves, and there are several Isaias and, it's obvious, there are many voices in Genesis often contradicting one another. Harold Blook has come up with the Book of J to try to bring women into the Biblical writing world of antiquity where she must have been and we know nothing about it. The cult of the writer comes at a much later time and is tied to commerce and publishing and making money and manipulating the reader as it tries to pick his pocket.
Female Writer Who Won World's Biggest Literary Prize Turns Out To Be Three Men....
An anonymous writer who has been likened to Italy's pseudonymous Ellena Ferrante was just awarded a €1MM ($1.16MM dollars) literary prize for her dazzling work as a groundbreaking female author. There's only one minor clarification - She is a he.
Well, she's actually three men. According to the FT, Carmen Mola, an author who until now has been presented as a female university professor writing under a pen name because of her desire for anonymity (something nobody would question since progressive critics would simply assume she's doing this to protect herself from online hate hate speech), revealed her true identity to the world when the main prize was awarded in the presence of the Spanish King.
Google Anita Raja and you'll have the answer
Shut up with your nonsense 😒
Why to read antifeminist behaviour in everything.? Once we recognize certain obvious tendenciesin society why always vfocus on it?
It is a bit anoying that emphacise on always talking about how women were second class citizen. Today we are facing a propaganda machine that want to erase the past because it was fair to women or to minorities but that was the past. Today we are taking extreme position. 28:49
My Brilliant Friend could NOT have been written by a man!!!
Isn't it the case that she turned out to be a Polish jew? Is this not "appropriating"?
How is it appropriation?!?!? It’s a NOVEL. It’s not a memoir. It’s fiction. Authors write stories about other people and stories all the time. She used an Italian alias because she probably didn’t want a bunch of assholes bothering her and it’s an Italian book so pick an Italian name.
Where are you getting this from?
If you’re speaking of Anita Raja, no, she’s not a Polish Jew. Her mother was; her father was from Naples. Anita was born in Naples and grew up in Rome. She’s married to another Italian writer. She’s not appropriating anything.
@@Historian212 isn't she from bologna?
They literally mansplained and talked over this woman constantly. Learn from Ferrante !
a polish jew pretending to be italian. is this "cultural appropriation"?
Your comment makes me realize shy the author wants to be unknown.