Well said. I have owned just about 50 electric scooters now. No more then 2-3 at a time tho. I buy sell and trade a lot. And throughout all my experiences, speed really isn’t everything, performance can be different then specs, bigger isn’t always better. Right now I have a Nami Klima and Vsett mini. My Nami Klima is my favorite scooter and I’m stopping collecting and ending it with these two. The Klima has everything I’d want from a scooter, going through so many helped me know what I like and don’t like. I ride on the street and never really off road, so I love the CST stock road tires, durable and practical. I live in a mobile home park with lots of speed bumps, the adjustable plush suspension really helps. The acceleration does live up the the hype, I see why you and a lot of others like it so much. And so much more about it gives good vibes. And the reason I got a Vsett Mini was because sometimes I want to go out real quick and I don’t want to take my bigger Nami,lock it up while I shop, worry about it being taken… The Vsett Mini offers different pros, even with less performance. So that’s why I like having two totally different e scooters. I look forward on seeing more videos from you thx.
Even 30-40mph is too fast for these things. For example, 40mph is nearly 60feet per second. The wheels are too small and scooters are too inherently unstable for such speeds. If anything goes wrong at such speeds, you are going to be seriously injured, especially if you aren't dressed appropriately. This is if a single vehicle accident happens. A multi-vehicle accident (where you get hit by a car) is going to cause even more injury. If you're flying down the road at 40mph and a car 200 feet in front of you sees a stand up scooter while attempting to turn into traffic, his computation will be way off and he will perceive you as going much slower than you are. Getting doored would be a major problem too.
Rule of thumb - take the stated range, multiply by 0.65 and add 1.25km - PRESTO (reasonably good guesstimate, under average conditions, keep your speed 16-19 kph. Works out just fine - I've tried this on a few different makes/models). Happy travels.
Great video. The level of bad products and false claims on e-scooters really needs to end. There are false-advertising laws to protect consumers but they are not being used and are being blatantly ignored by the industry. As are basic safety standards.
Hello Australian here I just bought a kqi3 max range is good and I've unlocked the speed to 38 kmm/h build quality is good I did 3 months of research before I got a E scooter I live in the CBD of Sydney gets me around without needing to own a car so it pays itself off quickly I feel like 38 km/h around 23 mph this is fast enough and any faster would be to fast for the city so I agree with you speed isn't everything I'd rather reliability and build quality over a better max speed from a Chinese e scooter off Amazon or AliExpress also I think a big thing to take into consideration is I feel more safe about the risk of battery fires with a well established company
I agree with everything except the weight vs top speed. More weight generally creates more friction, if you are an exceptionally big rider, that friction/rolling resistance might just cut into the top speed.
The difference in rolling resistance is basically negligible until you get close to the weight capacity of the scooter and even then I don't know how noticeable it would be
I was thinking the same thing. If I’m pushing an empty shopping cart, I can push it effortlessly at walking speed (3-4mph). If that same shopping cart is full of, let’s say concrete, I can barely move it
As a 310 lb person I can tell you It does in fact cut into the top speed. Every single model I've been on loses a little bit of speed when I'm on it versus an average size person, some more than others, but all of them do, especially on hills
Everything about batteries and charging. Most people have no idea what they talk about when it comes to these things. Related to these is the motor power that you have mentioned. So many people in my local group think that if they replace the motors with ones that have higher rated power, their scooter will go faster.
I'm 6'4 and weigh 220lbs. I never hit the advised top speed lol. Prime example my Wolf King GTR has a claimed 65mph top speed but I literally have to crouch all the way down to hit that
Myth #1 is more complicated than it seems ... heavier riders will be slower going uphill and faster going downhill than lighter riders ... in these cases weight can affect top speed because of the effect of gravity.
I agree about top speed being not very important, especially on faster scooters. If a scooter is decently fast then so many other things matter more than exactly how fast it can go. On my Inmotion RS it has 4 modes - mode 1 goes up to around 33kph, mode 2 goes to 65kph, mode 3 and mode 4 aren't really that important because 65kph is plenty fast enough most of the time. More important than any speed over 70kph (around 40mph) is acceleration, range, weather resistance, reliability, handling, comfort, etc.
Personally I'd like to see the motors much better protected (with preventative coatings) from the factory and much better water ingress handling designs. Replacing these parts every 2 to 3 years is not cheap, and will the parts even be available quickly? Saw a guy recently who waited 2-months for a Kaabo Wolf King GT battery from the #1 official distributor! They don't even keep a stock of essential replacement parts! It had to come from China, all the distributor did was act as a parasitic middleman. That's unacceptable for an expensive scooter from a major brand, that's well inside the time window where such aging major parts components must be routinely replaced. There is almost no parts support, everything is geared to inconvenience, higher down time and costing you a whole lot more.
Very good video, I shared it with the scooter sub. One of the things that drives me crazy in the scooter community is people who bash high quality scooters like Nami because they can get similar specs on paper out of a sub-$1k aliexpress scooter. The people who describe their scooters based on the max wattage of a motor, which is an obvious marketing gimmick. They have obviously never been on a high quality scooter, because they are a world apart. It's like comparing CST's to PMT's. I've put almost 4000 miles on my base model Burn-E2 in roughly a year. It's been absolutely amazing.
there is literally nothing to be done about bench racers who don't actually buy anything. same thing happens with fast cars and these days fast GPUs with the rtx 5090 launch
Yeah I agree that a lot of scooters people recommend in the comments look rather cheaply crafted with shoddy parts. This is why I recently got myself a Joyor E8-S, its surprisingly well built, looks very sleek and is still very affordable for a 72V system
Scooters fall under the American rule-you get what you pay for. The real difference I experienced was air tires vs solid tires. I was hell bent on solid tires and swore by them until I finally gave in and bought a nanrobot D4 Max. The ride is like night and day. Now, don’t get me wrong, solid tires hold their own when it comes to flats, but solid tires will eventually have to be changed at some point.
@ the tires will have to be replaced at some point. They will wear out eventually. I have solid tires on my nanrobot lightning. Front tire went bald because it keeps burning out when I hit the throttle
I just noticed the stock rotors on the Teewing are my favorite 2.25mm thick zoom rotors. tempting, but I think Im going to sell my varla eagle one pro and get that new beast from voro when its on its second or third production run.
A heavy load does cause more friction on wheels because the increased weight pushes down harder on the road surface, resulting in greater contact and therefore more friction between the tires and the road. Explanation: Force and Friction: The force of friction is directly proportional to the normal force, which is the force pushing down on the surface. When a heavier load is present, the normal force increases, leading to increased friction. Impact on Driving: This means that when a vehicle is carrying a heavy load, it will require more power to accelerate and maintain speed due to the increased friction. Key points to remember: Heavier vehicle = More friction: The heavier the vehicle, the greater the friction between the tires and the road. Braking distance: A heavier load also means a shorter braking distance because of the increased friction available to slow down the vehicle. Tire wear: Carrying heavy loads can also contribute to faster tire wear due to the increased friction.
And the sad part about it is that it probably wasn’t even a real company-just a scam website-here today, gone tomorrow (along with your money). I wonder if the big credit card companies picked up on that and shot a quick email back to the customer “this website appears suspicious. Do you still give consent to authorize this purchase?” Over 300,000 people obviously clicked yes. The big banks (Chase, shitybank, tity bank) all have top notch security. Chase calls me within seconds if something doesn’t look right.
Suitable tyres and suspension are vital safety concerns for less-than-ideal roads. Scooters are small wheel vehicles and can fare poorly when crossing unexpected potholes and irregular surfaces.
I'm looking at the RS5 Max for my upgrade over the Mantis V2 expressly due to the ease of repairability and the fact that it's made in the USA here. Sadly, all the Nami Klima Max sellers are sold out, so my options are a tad limited, otherwise I'd go for that. :P
Hey mitch i have a question, is it possible you can review the apollo phantom 2.0 52v once it comes out in a month or so? I really think this might just be the best apollo yet, it has some really dope tech while having better specs than the pro and is $1000 cheaper than the pro too. Idk man this is looking pretty promising you should check it out.
I beta tested it. it is super dope. internally apollo realizes that they made something with the same performance as the pro but for less money and they're totally ok with that. apollo gets a bad rap for being expensive but I live in a place where it rains and snows. my go has been just fine despite the road salt and snow and slush on the roads
@ thats amazing news to hear. Im glad you were able to get your hands on the phantom early, such a privilege. And yes i have heard great things about the apollo go, honestly i would have bought this one but i just wanted somthing a bit faster with the latest tech. The apple find my and nfc are soo cool and im looking forward to it, i pre ordered mine as soon as it launched and i got it with the coupon from Esg. Honestly cant wait for it, and if you dont mind me asking how was your experience with it?
@ its good. It’s essentially a cut rate Pro. I just wish it had slicks instead of knobby tires. I have the stellar on pre order, which is what I thought I was beta testing. Now I just have to sell my Pro and then my phantom 2.0 when the stellar arrives, though I might keep it for winter riding as I don’t have a car
@ oh i see, thata cool then, i hope you enjoy the stellar. I personally dont need the tires or the performance of the stellar and the 52v is more than enough. Anyways thanks tho for the insight
@ the stellar is a want for sure, but I can afford it and it should be the last electric scooter I get barring a quantum leap in battery tech or a Go redesign that allows for slightly knobby tires for winter riding
I can't use a bike or scooter for my commuting that can not go 45mph for 2-3 miles. I refuse to ride in streets with no bike lanes and having cars speed past me with drivers angry that i hold them up. It's 45 mph or nothing on many roads here. No room to get over and no bike lanes.
I learn great information like what you provided. Thank you! I.E. The new VMAX VX2-B thats due out in Q2 this year. I like to support small companies with great products, but when they further advance yet an already advanced e-scooter (different design mimicking another said model of theirs), its quite a turn off to get the latest and greatest version of that scooter. Reminds me of the Apple iPhone syndrome. Some of us aren't sheep!
Not sure I understand what you're saying here. Care to elaborate. Personally the new VMAX B would probably be my first choice for my next scooter buy were it not for the fact I can't buy it in my country. Also don't want a locked one. Why you not like it? Other contenders are Gt1/2/3 unlocked on sale. Yume hawk/hawk pro or swift or if they release something new appealing (they have said to me they will soon)
Hey guys does anyone know of a triple tree style headset that will clamp onto the scooter shocks i measured mine at about 190mm. I saw one guy on here that did it by drilling out 10mm holes and removing the center stem, i was hoping the dualtron or zero 11x T riser would be compatible with my laotie/yumi/yunli style scooter.
My 1000 dollar escooter from china, (boyeuda s5) is extremely good build quality, and insane trouq, it got up to 55 mph, you should review it and stop glazing name brand scooters, like their sooooo good or sum thin.
Had not heard of the boyudea s5 before so checked it out now. It seems very very interesting and appealing in several different ways. Might be my new frontrunner. Could you please elaborate a bit more on your experience with it? The q7pro looks interesting too. Thanks a lot for the tip!
Some "concerns" I have is about the suspension and brakes. None of which seems to be top options but on the other hand the scooter is very cheap. Also no ipx rating what I can see. Hope it handels rain long term. What do you think?
Rider weight does in fact affect the top speed of a scooter. The more powerful the scooter is, the less the effect is visible, but the physics confirm that rider weight does affect the top speed of a scooter. A weaker motor will have to exert more force to move a heavier rider. If the motor is insufficient, then yes, this will affect the top speed the scooter can reach. Aside from that, a heavier rider will also increase the rolling resistance and drag. This is easy to test though. Just have 2 riders with a noticeable weight difference, maybe 150lb vs 200lb riders, ride a lower-powered scooter. Then do the same thing but with a much more powerful scooter and see.
Well said. I have owned just about 50 electric scooters now. No more then 2-3 at a time tho. I buy sell and trade a lot.
And throughout all my experiences, speed really isn’t everything, performance can be different then specs, bigger isn’t always better.
Right now I have a Nami Klima and Vsett mini.
My Nami Klima is my favorite scooter and I’m stopping collecting and ending it with these two.
The Klima has everything I’d want from a scooter, going through so many helped me know what I like and don’t like.
I ride on the street and never really off road, so I love the CST stock road tires, durable and practical. I live in a mobile home park with lots of speed bumps, the adjustable plush suspension really helps.
The acceleration does live up the the hype, I see why you and a lot of others like it so much.
And so much more about it gives good vibes.
And the reason I got a Vsett Mini was because sometimes I want to go out real quick and I don’t want to take my bigger Nami,lock it up while I shop, worry about it being taken…
The Vsett Mini offers different pros, even with less performance.
So that’s why I like having two totally different e scooters.
I look forward on seeing more videos from you thx.
Good comment. Thanks for sharing
Even 30-40mph is too fast for these things. For example, 40mph is nearly 60feet per second. The wheels are too small and scooters are too inherently unstable for such speeds. If anything goes wrong at such speeds, you are going to be seriously injured, especially if you aren't dressed appropriately. This is if a single vehicle accident happens. A multi-vehicle accident (where you get hit by a car) is going to cause even more injury.
If you're flying down the road at 40mph and a car 200 feet in front of you sees a stand up scooter while attempting to turn into traffic, his computation will be way off and he will perceive you as going much slower than you are. Getting doored would be a major problem too.
Rule of thumb - take the stated range, multiply by 0.65 and add 1.25km - PRESTO (reasonably good guesstimate, under average conditions, keep your speed 16-19 kph. Works out just fine - I've tried this on a few different makes/models). Happy travels.
So a 34% performance exaggeration is to be expected ... 😄 ... crooks.
Great video. The level of bad products and false claims on e-scooters really needs to end. There are false-advertising laws to protect consumers but they are not being used and are being blatantly ignored by the industry. As are basic safety standards.
Hello Australian here I just bought a kqi3 max range is good and I've unlocked the speed to 38 kmm/h build quality is good I did 3 months of research before I got a E scooter I live in the CBD of Sydney gets me around without needing to own a car so it pays itself off quickly I feel like 38 km/h around 23 mph this is fast enough and any faster would be to fast for the city so I agree with you speed isn't everything I'd rather reliability and build quality over a better max speed from a Chinese e scooter off Amazon or AliExpress also I think a big thing to take into consideration is I feel more safe about the risk of battery fires with a well established company
This is ur best video yet mitch
I agree with everything except the weight vs top speed. More weight generally creates more friction, if you are an exceptionally big rider, that friction/rolling resistance might just cut into the top speed.
The difference in rolling resistance is basically negligible until you get close to the weight capacity of the scooter and even then I don't know how noticeable it would be
I was thinking the same thing. If I’m pushing an empty shopping cart, I can push it effortlessly at walking speed (3-4mph). If that same shopping cart is full of, let’s say concrete, I can barely move it
@@grazz7865but you can still get the cart to 3-4 mph, even though concrete weighs more than a big human in a cart.
As a 310 lb person I can tell you It does in fact cut into the top speed. Every single model I've been on loses a little bit of speed when I'm on it versus an average size person, some more than others, but all of them do, especially on hills
Everything about batteries and charging. Most people have no idea what they talk about when it comes to these things.
Related to these is the motor power that you have mentioned. So many people in my local group think that if they replace the motors with ones that have higher rated power, their scooter will go faster.
I'm 6'4 and weigh 220lbs. I never hit the advised top speed lol. Prime example my Wolf King GTR has a claimed 65mph top speed but I literally have to crouch all the way down to hit that
Same here. I just bought the nanrobot D4 Max. 42 is advertised. I’m lucky to hit 34. And battery? No where near the 40 miles range stated.
The wind resistant/push on you after 60 km/ 37miles is getting slightly uncomfortable.😮.
Myth #1 is more complicated than it seems ... heavier riders will be slower going uphill and faster going downhill than lighter riders ... in these cases weight can affect top speed because of the effect of gravity.
I agree about top speed being not very important, especially on faster scooters. If a scooter is decently fast then so many other things matter more than exactly how fast it can go. On my Inmotion RS it has 4 modes - mode 1 goes up to around 33kph, mode 2 goes to 65kph, mode 3 and mode 4 aren't really that important because 65kph is plenty fast enough most of the time. More important than any speed over 70kph (around 40mph) is acceleration, range, weather resistance, reliability, handling, comfort, etc.
Personally I'd like to see the motors much better protected (with preventative coatings) from the factory and much better water ingress handling designs. Replacing these parts every 2 to 3 years is not cheap, and will the parts even be available quickly? Saw a guy recently who waited 2-months for a Kaabo Wolf King GT battery from the #1 official distributor! They don't even keep a stock of essential replacement parts! It had to come from China, all the distributor did was act as a parasitic middleman. That's unacceptable for an expensive scooter from a major brand, that's well inside the time window where such aging major parts components must be routinely replaced. There is almost no parts support, everything is geared to inconvenience, higher down time and costing you a whole lot more.
Very good video, I shared it with the scooter sub.
One of the things that drives me crazy in the scooter community is people who bash high quality scooters like Nami because they can get similar specs on paper out of a sub-$1k aliexpress scooter. The people who describe their scooters based on the max wattage of a motor, which is an obvious marketing gimmick. They have obviously never been on a high quality scooter, because they are a world apart. It's like comparing CST's to PMT's.
I've put almost 4000 miles on my base model Burn-E2 in roughly a year. It's been absolutely amazing.
there is literally nothing to be done about bench racers who don't actually buy anything. same thing happens with fast cars and these days fast GPUs with the rtx 5090 launch
Yeah I agree that a lot of scooters people recommend in the comments look rather cheaply crafted with shoddy parts. This is why I recently got myself a Joyor E8-S, its surprisingly well built, looks very sleek and is still very affordable for a 72V system
Scooters fall under the American rule-you get what you pay for. The real difference I experienced was air tires vs solid tires. I was hell bent on solid tires and swore by them until I finally gave in and bought a nanrobot D4 Max. The ride is like night and day. Now, don’t get me wrong, solid tires hold their own when it comes to flats, but solid tires will eventually have to be changed at some point.
I have solid tires only because I want zero maintenance 😂
@ the tires will have to be replaced at some point. They will wear out eventually. I have solid tires on my nanrobot lightning. Front tire went bald because it keeps burning out when I hit the throttle
Max fun, are doing a kick starter for their new max fun max, that's something I'd like to support. They're offering some nice specs for the new one
I just noticed the stock rotors on the Teewing are my favorite 2.25mm thick zoom rotors. tempting, but I think Im going to sell my varla eagle one pro and get that new beast from voro when its on its second or third production run.
A heavy load does cause more friction on wheels because the increased weight pushes down harder on the road surface, resulting in greater contact and therefore more friction between the tires and the road.
Explanation:
Force and Friction:
The force of friction is directly proportional to the normal force, which is the force pushing down on the surface. When a heavier load is present, the normal force increases, leading to increased friction.
Impact on Driving:
This means that when a vehicle is carrying a heavy load, it will require more power to accelerate and maintain speed due to the increased friction.
Key points to remember:
Heavier vehicle = More friction:
The heavier the vehicle, the greater the friction between the tires and the road.
Braking distance:
A heavier load also means a shorter braking distance because of the increased friction available to slow down the vehicle.
Tire wear:
Carrying heavy loads can also contribute to faster tire wear due to the increased friction.
Hey do u recommend any accurate speedo apps
Peak wattage is how much the motor can do without seriously overheating.
A $400K crowd-funding heist?!
That’s absolutely criminal!
And the sad part about it is that it probably wasn’t even a real company-just a scam website-here today, gone tomorrow (along with your money). I wonder if the big credit card companies picked up on that and shot a quick email back to the customer “this website appears suspicious. Do you still give consent to authorize this purchase?” Over 300,000 people obviously clicked yes. The big banks (Chase, shitybank, tity bank) all have top notch security. Chase calls me within seconds if something doesn’t look right.
Suitable tyres and suspension are vital safety concerns for less-than-ideal roads. Scooters are small wheel vehicles and can fare poorly when crossing unexpected potholes and irregular surfaces.
If you think weight doesn’t affect the top speed try to go uphill.
I'm looking at the RS5 Max for my upgrade over the Mantis V2 expressly due to the ease of repairability and the fact that it's made in the USA here. Sadly, all the Nami Klima Max sellers are sold out, so my options are a tad limited, otherwise I'd go for that. :P
Hey mitch i have a question, is it possible you can review the apollo phantom 2.0 52v once it comes out in a month or so? I really think this might just be the best apollo yet, it has some really dope tech while having better specs than the pro and is $1000 cheaper than the pro too. Idk man this is looking pretty promising you should check it out.
I beta tested it. it is super dope. internally apollo realizes that they made something with the same performance as the pro but for less money and they're totally ok with that. apollo gets a bad rap for being expensive but I live in a place where it rains and snows. my go has been just fine despite the road salt and snow and slush on the roads
@ thats amazing news to hear. Im glad you were able to get your hands on the phantom early, such a privilege. And yes i have heard great things about the apollo go, honestly i would have bought this one but i just wanted somthing a bit faster with the latest tech. The apple find my and nfc are soo cool and im looking forward to it, i pre ordered mine as soon as it launched and i got it with the coupon from Esg. Honestly cant wait for it, and if you dont mind me asking how was your experience with it?
@ its good. It’s essentially a cut rate Pro. I just wish it had slicks instead of knobby tires. I have the stellar on pre order, which is what I thought I was beta testing. Now I just have to sell my Pro and then my phantom 2.0 when the stellar arrives, though I might keep it for winter riding as I don’t have a car
@ oh i see, thata cool then, i hope you enjoy the stellar. I personally dont need the tires or the performance of the stellar and the 52v is more than enough. Anyways thanks tho for the insight
@ the stellar is a want for sure, but I can afford it and it should be the last electric scooter I get barring a quantum leap in battery tech or a Go redesign that allows for slightly knobby tires for winter riding
I can't use a bike or scooter for my commuting that can not go 45mph for 2-3 miles. I refuse to ride in streets with no bike lanes and having cars speed past me with drivers angry that i hold them up. It's 45 mph or nothing on many roads here. No room to get over and no bike lanes.
I learn great information like what you provided. Thank you! I.E. The new VMAX VX2-B thats due out in Q2 this year. I like to support small companies with great products, but when they further advance yet an already advanced e-scooter (different design mimicking another said model of theirs), its quite a turn off to get the latest and greatest version of that scooter. Reminds me of the Apple iPhone syndrome. Some of us aren't sheep!
Not sure I understand what you're saying here. Care to elaborate. Personally the new VMAX B would probably be my first choice for my next scooter buy were it not for the fact I can't buy it in my country. Also don't want a locked one. Why you not like it?
Other contenders are Gt1/2/3 unlocked on sale. Yume hawk/hawk pro or swift or if they release something new appealing (they have said to me they will soon)
Hey guys does anyone know of a triple tree style headset that will clamp onto the scooter shocks i measured mine at about 190mm. I saw one guy on here that did it by drilling out 10mm holes and removing the center stem, i was hoping the dualtron or zero 11x T riser would be compatible with my laotie/yumi/yunli style scooter.
14:13 at this point we don’t even need a real Jesus but Bart reads with eisegesis
Hey man, could you try the Teverun Fighter Mini ?
fActually voltage is the key factor thatn determinesyour ultimate top speed
That and a big set of cahunas
Your point for the first myth is interesting, but it’s only a theory and it’s wrong.
Solid tyres and cobblestones - NOT GOOD!
Yeah-I used to swear by solid tires. Sure, no worries about flats, but solid tires will need to be replaced eventually.
My 1000 dollar escooter from china, (boyeuda s5) is extremely good build quality, and insane trouq, it got up to 55 mph, you should review it and stop glazing name brand scooters, like their sooooo good or sum thin.
Had not heard of the boyudea s5 before so checked it out now. It seems very very interesting and appealing in several different ways. Might be my new frontrunner. Could you please elaborate a bit more on your experience with it? The q7pro looks interesting too. Thanks a lot for the tip!
Some "concerns" I have is about the suspension and brakes. None of which seems to be top options but on the other hand the scooter is very cheap. Also no ipx rating what I can see. Hope it handels rain long term. What do you think?
I was looking at the Q7 pro. I found ONE review on it which didn’t sell me. I went with the nanrobot D4 Max.
Blödsinn ! Mit meinem E-Scooter fährt ein 130 KG Fahrer 42 km/h und ein 70 Kg Fahrer 52 Km/h !!! Das ist Realität !!!
Can you give me a budget scooter that goes up to 28 mph and decent range? I saved up 750 dollars :)
Evercross H3. Walmart had it on sale for $409. That was 2 months ago
Rider weight does in fact affect the top speed of a scooter. The more powerful the scooter is, the less the effect is visible, but the physics confirm that rider weight does affect the top speed of a scooter. A weaker motor will have to exert more force to move a heavier rider. If the motor is insufficient, then yes, this will affect the top speed the scooter can reach. Aside from that, a heavier rider will also increase the rolling resistance and drag. This is easy to test though. Just have 2 riders with a noticeable weight difference, maybe 150lb vs 200lb riders, ride a lower-powered scooter. Then do the same thing but with a much more powerful scooter and see.
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