I have said this before. I am an 87 year old grandmother, two of my six grandchildren being gay. I am still a Christian, but have evolved way beyond my childhood upbringing. I have a few Korean acquaintances who grew up as you did, Joe, and who have remained Christians, but also evolved way beyond the Korean church experience. Such an interesting podcast today.
That's awesome you've grown to be understanding and change your mind on what you've been taught. My late grandmother was born in the late 1910's and I don't know if she would have been able to be taught about my being gay or the lgbtq comunity had she lived until I came out. I wonder if that's too big of a generation gap
@@willcookmakeup there is a great gap between 1910 and 1936 when I was born. I really didn’t know much about the gay community until I had gay grandchildren, and there’s no way in the world I would have not loved and accepted them no matter what. they are wonderful people, and I have set myself to learning a lot about the gay community. To know is to love!
I guess I'm pretty privileged , I've always been open minded about stuff , u know more like I just don't really care if it doesn't involve with my life , like u do u babe
Meeting the partner's parent(s), even when they're liberal, areligious, and speak the same language, is nerve-racking. Congrats on such a big and important milestone!
I think I have the dinner beat. My Vietnamese boyfriend's FAMILY came to town for his college graduation - and stayed with us. He wa not out, openly, preparing or otherwise. The grandparents spoke no English, the mother very little and the Dad, a bit. My Vietnamese was limited please, thank you, yes, no and a couple of things you weren't going to use in this context. Our bedroom was on the third floor of the house - magical thinking transformed it from one large room with a queen size bed, into I guess two or three individual rooms with one door (?) The fact that none of the other three bedrooms on the second floor was set up as or ever used as such was just never mentioned. It was a very long weekend. And yet, at the end, I swear to god, there was that moment when the Dad pulled me aside and said something along the lines of 'I know you will take very good care of my son' .
@joeseeking3572 - Oh!...his dad's statement to you was so very heartfelt and knowing...brought a few tears to my eyes. Just proves that we hide ourselves from ourselves more than from the world...it/they see it all!
I am a gay man from the USA living with my Brazilian boyfriend in the family home with his family in Sao Paulo Brazil. I don't speak Portuguese well at all. And his family doesn't speak English well. Luckily the BF and I stay primarily in the "in-law" apartment downstairs. His mom watches Christian TV all day long.. But I am an ordained Christian minister also, so maybe that is the one connection we have. I am a real talker, so I hate not participating in conversations, so staying quiet while everyone else is laughing and talking is sometimes difficult. And my BF while almost fully fluent in conversational English, he is a very bad translator! haha
I love listening to such raw conversations and hearing about other people's experiences. Also, I can see having these types of conversations in future, as there is a huge probability my future bf will be using English as his main language, while my parents aren't natives.
Woof, I remember having to introduce my then white boyfriend to my Asian parents! Parallel experience. It only gets easier moving forward now that the ice is broken 😊. Now that we got them a grandkid, they couldn’t be happier with the situation.
My mom did not speak English so meeting my now (Canadian) husband was a bit nerve wrecking for me. My mother smiled a lot though so that eased the stress. My husband then started learning Portuguese so he could speak to her which was very sweet. My mother didn’t understand his Portuguese! there you go. I continued being translator 😂😂
I’ve been watching you from the beginning in your pt Edmonton days, as a fellow Albertan child of immigrants your videos have always resonated with me. I don’t typically comment on videos but I just wanna say what an amazing conversation this has been. I teach diversity studies at a community college and I thought you both did such a good job at showcasing the complexity of culture without placing value or judgement on the clear differences in affection, communication, customs etc. I’m so happy for y’all ❤
Super relatable video for me! Thanks so much for sharing! My bf‘s parents are Taiwanese American and quite religious. Wasn’t easy at first in terms of values, culture and also language to a certain extent but it’s been getting better. After many years I finally got the feeling that they have made their peace with us being together. We also like to chose places where his parents feel comfortable: Chinese restaurants (we usually also ask my bf’s brother, his wife and kids to join who are easy to talk to). Since we are living and working in Europe and can’t see them often, it kinda always feels like getting to know each other again every time we come to the US…
My partners family are Thai , their English is almost non existent and my Thai is very limited so the language barrier thing was relatable, so happy Ryan met your parents, Joe🙏
I love these sit down podcast style videos. I've been watching your videos every week for the past few years now. Keep up the hard work. I look forward to watching again soon!
I love seeing how your relationship has evolved over the years of watching your channel! While I do love seeing the growth in your content, I also appreciate seeing how genuine the vibes are between you and Ryan. It's beautiful!
You are not alone. I am 35 and still not out. People always ask me why I am not in a relationship, and having to come up with an excuse is really tiring. I chose not to date anyone, dreading that I'd eventually hurt the other person that I have respect and love for. I didn't want them to feel like I was hiding them or closeting them all over again because of the situation I'm in. Also, because I kept it a secret for so long, it became harder and harder to come out. My parents, knowing that I am gay, still want me to marry a girl (which I'd never do because that is a horrible thing to do to another human being). Now I am feeling lost and go through the motions each day without a real goal or purpose. Since I was young, I really wanted to become a dad one day, and knowing that this is far from becoming a reality, I get depressed from time to time. Some might call me a coward, but I've always loved my parents, and when I came out to them, they were devastated to the point where they couldn't eat or talk for months. I think this is when I realised that I couldn't come out because even if I chose to pursue my happiness, I would never be truly happy knowing my parents are suffering.
I really like this podcast format and your style creating videos/vlogs. Keep up with this style and don't feel like you have to change something (except you want to try something new for yourself) ❤
i love you guys talking and showing different perspectives, i learn alot from you both and i kinda prepare myself to introduce myself or be the one introduced
I come from a Mexican American family but my partner is Mexican. I took the time to finish out my Spanish to an advanced level. It really has opened up my relationship with my mother-in-law. We can now have deep conversations yet the conservative barrier still remains.
Really loved this episode, and glad it went well with your family. My Japanese grandma used to be more like how you describe your parents, showing affection through making and serving food. We (her mixed grandkids) have made her more accustomed to hugs and I love yous. She used to be very uncomfortable with it but I think she appreciates it now. Thanks for sharing with us!
First time here. Thanks for the wonderful video. Both of you did well with his parents. South-Asian here, so understand and empathise with the SA-Asian cultural issues.
Congratulation on meeting Joe’s parents and his brother and girl friend. Considering the situation it appears it went very well. Yes, definitely serve beer to the father. Maybe his Joe’s father would like a fishing buddy?
What a great interesting video guys..Ryan is a very kind guy and of course Joe is the epitome of politeness..being less shiddy.. but seriously..thank you for your discussuon on how joes parents reacted to Ryan.. so glad it all went so well. Lol xxx❤❤❤😊😊😊
I can attest to not saying I love you to my parents either. I believe that in the Asian culture saying I love is in the form of gesture not necessarily verbal.
Joe Glad to know the meeting went well 🔝 This podcast sessions are cool 😎 The outro Ryan doing the voice and at the end coughing hilarious 👌 Greetings from mexico 🇲🇽✋
I had an Air Force buddy with: "Stage Fright" just like Ryan. His wife would always try to get him to meet people and be more conversationsal, and he would say: "But what would I say?" She would tell him that he has no problem talking with me, to which he replied: "That's because I know Steve". I get it.
This is very relatable right now. I went and met my partners family for the first time this weekend. He is from Hong Kong and they speak Cantonese and only speak English conversationally. So my poor partner was translating everything for me. And I was trying to ask questions through him.. so I didn't just sit there in silence pretending to know what was going on 🙈
I’ve never heard my German in-laws ever say I love you or kiss. I know they love each other, it’s a cultural or an age/era thing. Congrats on meeting the parents. At some point they have to realize it is what it is.
Hi, this video is great. Me and my partner are just going through the same experience with his family, though they are from the same ethic background as me. I am nervous like Ryan, with how it is going to go and what to talk about.
I love Sundays for your videos, and Tyler & Todd. It's my Canada Day each week! (But why oh why does everyone under the age of 35 say "like" all the time!?!?!?)
I have said this before. I am an 87 year old grandmother, two of my six grandchildren being gay. I am still a Christian, but have evolved way beyond my childhood upbringing. I have a few Korean acquaintances who grew up as you did, Joe, and who have remained Christians, but also evolved way beyond the Korean church experience. Such an interesting podcast today.
Amazing!!!
It’s the old grandmother again. I forgot to add that the pastor of my church, united church of Christ, is gay.
That's awesome you've grown to be understanding and change your mind on what you've been taught. My late grandmother was born in the late 1910's and I don't know if she would have been able to be taught about my being gay or the lgbtq comunity had she lived until I came out. I wonder if that's too big of a generation gap
@@willcookmakeup there is a great gap between 1910 and 1936 when I was born. I really didn’t know much about the gay community until I had gay grandchildren, and there’s no way in the world I would have not loved and accepted them no matter what. they are wonderful people, and I have set myself to learning a lot about the gay community. To know is to love!
I guess I'm pretty privileged , I've always been open minded about stuff , u know more like I just don't really care if it doesn't involve with my life , like u do u babe
Meeting the partner's parent(s), even when they're liberal, areligious, and speak the same language, is nerve-racking. Congrats on such a big and important milestone!
Your channel is the reason why i always get excited for Sundays
People come to church on Sunday, I come here Sunday 😭🫶
Fr lowkey
@@jackthemlits Joe Lee 3:16 - Be less shiddy.
I think I have the dinner beat. My Vietnamese boyfriend's FAMILY came to town for his college graduation - and stayed with us. He wa not out, openly, preparing or otherwise. The grandparents spoke no English, the mother very little and the Dad, a bit. My Vietnamese was limited please, thank you, yes, no and a couple of things you weren't going to use in this context. Our bedroom was on the third floor of the house - magical thinking transformed it from one large room with a queen size bed, into I guess two or three individual rooms with one door (?) The fact that none of the other three bedrooms on the second floor was set up as or ever used as such was just never mentioned. It was a very long weekend. And yet, at the end, I swear to god, there was that moment when the Dad pulled me aside and said something along the lines of 'I know you will take very good care of my son' .
@joeseeking3572 - Oh!...his dad's statement to you was so very heartfelt and knowing...brought a few tears to my eyes. Just proves that we hide ourselves from ourselves more than from the world...it/they see it all!
I'm old enough to be your parent and I would be so proud to have sons like you both.
I am a gay man from the USA living with my Brazilian boyfriend in the family home with his family in Sao Paulo Brazil. I don't speak Portuguese well at all. And his family doesn't speak English well. Luckily the BF and I stay primarily in the "in-law" apartment downstairs. His mom watches Christian TV all day long.. But I am an ordained Christian minister also, so maybe that is the one connection we have. I am a real talker, so I hate not participating in conversations, so staying quiet while everyone else is laughing and talking is sometimes difficult. And my BF while almost fully fluent in conversational English, he is a very bad translator! haha
I love listening to such raw conversations and hearing about other people's experiences. Also, I can see having these types of conversations in future, as there is a huge probability my future bf will be using English as his main language, while my parents aren't natives.
Woof, I remember having to introduce my then white boyfriend to my Asian parents! Parallel experience. It only gets easier moving forward now that the ice is broken 😊. Now that we got them a grandkid, they couldn’t be happier with the situation.
My mom did not speak English so meeting my now (Canadian) husband was a bit nerve wrecking for me. My mother smiled a lot though so that eased the stress. My husband then started learning Portuguese so he could speak to her which was very sweet. My mother didn’t understand his Portuguese! there you go. I continued being translator 😂😂
I’ve been watching you from the beginning in your pt Edmonton days, as a fellow Albertan child of immigrants your videos have always resonated with me. I don’t typically comment on videos but I just wanna say what an amazing conversation this has been. I teach diversity studies at a community college and I thought you both did such a good job at showcasing the complexity of culture without placing value or judgement on the clear differences in affection, communication, customs etc. I’m so happy for y’all ❤
You guys have done a great job of being honest and respectful at the same time. Well done! Very happy for you!
“Conservative Christian Koreans - triple homicide” 😂 proud of you guys
Super relatable video for me! Thanks so much for sharing! My bf‘s parents are Taiwanese American and quite religious. Wasn’t easy at first in terms of values, culture and also language to a certain extent but it’s been getting better. After many years I finally got the feeling that they have made their peace with us being together. We also like to chose places where his parents feel comfortable: Chinese restaurants (we usually also ask my bf’s brother, his wife and kids to join who are easy to talk to). Since we are living and working in Europe and can’t see them often, it kinda always feels like getting to know each other again every time we come to the US…
I know you don't always like to share super personal stuff. Thanks for being vulnerable. I'm happy it went well.
My partners family are Thai , their English is almost non existent and my Thai is very limited so the language barrier thing was relatable, so happy Ryan met your parents, Joe🙏
I love these sit down podcast style videos. I've been watching your videos every week for the past few years now. Keep up the hard work. I look forward to watching again soon!
I'm so happy for you guys. Watching you two evolve through time really makes me feel better and self healing.
I’m so happy for you guys! Gives me hope for peace between my family and my partner. ❤️
I love seeing how your relationship has evolved over the years of watching your channel! While I do love seeing the growth in your content, I also appreciate seeing how genuine the vibes are between you and Ryan. It's beautiful!
Big steps and proud of you’ll children 🫶🏼🫶🏼🥹
I’m so sad and happy for y’all at the same time. 32 and not out. Parents are Christian and would disown me if I told them.
36 and not out here. People don't understand why some of us can't come out.
You are not alone. I am 35 and still not out. People always ask me why I am not in a relationship, and having to come up with an excuse is really tiring. I chose not to date anyone, dreading that I'd eventually hurt the other person that I have respect and love for. I didn't want them to feel like I was hiding them or closeting them all over again because of the situation I'm in. Also, because I kept it a secret for so long, it became harder and harder to come out. My parents, knowing that I am gay, still want me to marry a girl (which I'd never do because that is a horrible thing to do to another human being). Now I am feeling lost and go through the motions each day without a real goal or purpose. Since I was young, I really wanted to become a dad one day, and knowing that this is far from becoming a reality, I get depressed from time to time. Some might call me a coward, but I've always loved my parents, and when I came out to them, they were devastated to the point where they couldn't eat or talk for months. I think this is when I realised that I couldn't come out because even if I chose to pursue my happiness, I would never be truly happy knowing my parents are suffering.
Love this. I (white guy) had a similar experience meeting my boyfriend's parents (from Hong Kong).
I really like this podcast format and your style creating videos/vlogs. Keep up with this style and don't feel like you have to change something (except you want to try something new for yourself) ❤
i love you guys talking and showing different perspectives, i learn alot from you both and i kinda prepare myself to introduce myself or be the one introduced
I need this channel like air 🙏🏽
I come from a Mexican American family but my partner is Mexican. I took the time to finish out my Spanish to an advanced level. It really has opened up my relationship with my mother-in-law. We can now have deep conversations yet the conservative barrier still remains.
Really loved this episode, and glad it went well with your family.
My Japanese grandma used to be more like how you describe your parents, showing affection through making and serving food. We (her mixed grandkids) have made her more accustomed to hugs and I love yous. She used to be very uncomfortable with it but I think she appreciates it now. Thanks for sharing with us!
You two exhibit excellent character and qualities of what all relationships should mirror. Excited about your now and future!
I really enjoyed this episode and seeing you both smiling made me so happy for you as a couple.
I am so happy for you guys ❤❤❤
And I am loving Ryan new voice😊
So happy to have been following you for years ! Thank you so much for sharing your story, this is great!!! So happy for you!!!
First time here. Thanks for the wonderful video. Both of you did well with his parents. South-Asian here, so understand and empathise with the SA-Asian cultural issues.
Glad things went well with the dinner with your parents.
ughh wish this is an hour long.
I am happy for you that it went okay. Even if it was stressful it sounded like it went ok.
Congratulation on meeting Joe’s parents and his brother and girl friend. Considering the situation it appears it went very well. Yes, definitely serve beer to the father. Maybe his Joe’s father would like a fishing buddy?
I am so happy for you guys ❤
This vlog is my Monday morning breakfast/routine in QLD, Australia
You are both great! Never an easy task to meet the parents... but you did it! Bravo.
What a great interesting video guys..Ryan is a very kind guy and of course Joe is the epitome of politeness..being less shiddy.. but seriously..thank you for your discussuon on how joes parents reacted to Ryan.. so glad it all went so well. Lol xxx❤❤❤😊😊😊
I can attest to not saying I love you to my parents either. I believe that in the Asian culture saying I love is in the form of gesture not necessarily verbal.
Thanks for another great Sunday vid!! 💜💜
I love this channel. So relatable. ❤
today I really loved your blog , meeting your parents was a hoot, love love you guys
Joe
Glad to know the meeting went well 🔝
This podcast sessions are cool 😎
The outro Ryan doing the voice and at the end coughing hilarious 👌
Greetings from mexico 🇲🇽✋
I had an Air Force buddy with: "Stage Fright" just like Ryan. His wife would always try to get him to meet people and be more conversationsal, and he would say: "But what would I say?" She would tell him that he has no problem talking with me, to which he replied: "That's because I know Steve". I get it.
Do put ginger in your tea, it'll greatly help with the throat
so so so so happy for you guys! what a step!!
Love this so much! Congrats ❤
The connection and vibe between you and Ryan makes my heart flutter.
To be fair, did Ryan know about drinking etiquette tho? 😅🍻 Also, we need BroJoe Lee on the channel sometime!! 😄 You two are legends fr.
This is very relatable right now. I went and met my partners family for the first time this weekend. He is from Hong Kong and they speak Cantonese and only speak English conversationally. So my poor partner was translating everything for me. And I was trying to ask questions through him.. so I didn't just sit there in silence pretending to know what was going on 🙈
Excellent vlog love the way Ryan looks at you Nd you look at Ryan ❤❤meeting parents is hard but sounds like it went well 🎉🎉
Why am all smiles while watching this🥰 i felt like I was actually in that restaurant where you met the parents🤎
I’ve never heard my German in-laws ever say I love you or kiss. I know they love each other, it’s a cultural or an age/era thing. Congrats on meeting the parents. At some point they have to realize it is what it is.
Joe, you're probably not gonna read this, but keep pursuing your goals no matter what. We will always support you.
Love to hear you both talk ❤
I love the metal, flat Korean chopsticks. I struggle with all the other ones. 😂
❤ so happy for y’all
Thank you for sharing. This is inspiring ❤️
🖤🖤🖤 Lots of Love from Chile
oh I needed this soooo bad TY
Introducing potential partners to parents feels awkward because my parents will never hold back lol
Hi, this video is great. Me and my partner are just going through the same experience with his family, though they are from the same ethic background as me. I am nervous like Ryan, with how it is going to go and what to talk about.
Calm down ,you can do it
not having the attention span for fishing is so relatable lmao
I love Sundays for your videos, and Tyler & Todd. It's my Canada Day each week! (But why oh why does everyone under the age of 35 say "like" all the time!?!?!?)
To be fair, as a Chinese person, I also find Korean metal chopsticks difficult to use. They are definitely not the most comfortable thing to use.
I have used chopsticks my whole life but I too struggle with the metal ones. lol
Im glad it went well!
Very relatable.
So happy for you both 🥹
Love this video ❤
Sheeshhhh these two gorgeous men... 🥵❤️
Not me liking Ryan’s voice too Joe 😭🤦🏾♂️🤣🤷🏾♀️
Love this 😮💨
Wooden chopsticks are basic. Metal chopsticks are "advanced." 😃
That's really nice to hear, Hope you guys didn't wear hats at dinner
Ryan’s haircut is nice, but he looks different
素敵🥺🥺🥺
How much Korean does Ryan know?
The NY smoker voice🤣🤣🤣
Good
Glad to hear that your parents seems to like Ryan, but why wouldn't they ? What's not to like ?
Triple homocide💀 I laughed so hard help
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JOE Lee! Love Me Like This! :)
Don’t worry, plenty of Koreans can’t use chopsticks well either.
First one boi!!!! 🎉🎉
Why do you refer to your partner as queer rather than gay?
because he’s not gay
@@justjoelee So he is bisexual? Or?