Green Giant Propagation Results - A New Discovery!!!
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- Green Giant propagation results have been generally good, but one discovery has stood out brightly this year! And, it's one we WILL be repeating!
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I don't have a backyard nursery but still love watching and learning things from your videos. I could hear the excitement in your voice and the smile on your face when you announced the results. Great news, now onto planting all of those beautiful plants.
Thanks so much! Winter potting is gonna take a while this year. 😀
The difference between the 2, is the green one on the left has created a callous ball so it will still root out, the one on the right ran out of energy to produce the calousing it needed to callous up and died. The thicker the cuttings the longer it takes to grow a sustainable root system. Sometimes it takes 2 years for roots to grow. That happened to me and I just re dipped them into rooting hormone and they grew out roots the following spring.
That’s incredible Craig. 100% success rate is pretty damn hard to beat! Definitely going to be doing this, this winter.
Thanks for being a great nurseryman, sharing your successes and failures (knowledge) with the world. I appreciate you, your family, and y’all’s hard work.
Thanks for the kind words.
Thanks for showing that great outcome and the difference timing makes! That's like a miracle in propagation time! I needed to see that quick turnaround as I'm working on my retirement nursery! I want to be able to work until I am not able. Don't know how long that will be. Time is of an essence. Thanks, Odom family!! 💜
Half of my cuttings died, but I didn’t use mist or fertilizer. I also live in a colder climate. This was my first try, so I’m happy with the results!
Which means, half of your cuttings rooted! That's awesome
The beauty of Hardwood cuttings is it can be done in a time when generally less is going on. Rather not the super busy season. Cuttings also are far more forgiving than tender softwood cuttings. Less susceptible to disease as well.
Also, when taking softerwood cuttings, the tender ones typically get roasted by summer heat and are simply trying to hold onto water and its life and not focusing on growth of any kind a whole lot.
YES! Definitely more leeway on timing with hardwood.
Having the deeper pan with more room for development didn't hurt either ❤
Thanks for the HUGE advice ! I’m very happy for your success and the discovery that will bless your family and us who will benefit from you sharing. Thanks again !
I’m so excited with you and for you!!! And I am itching for January/February to get my cuttings going. Thanks for sharing your success, Craig! 👍🏼😁
Yes! thank you
Very exciting! The difference is amazing! They are such beautiful plants. End of December, I’ve stuck cuttings from green arrangements that were gifted to me at the holidays and they usually do root! 🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱
I just want to say congratulations on your nursery!! A lot of hard work!! Many good blessings for your business in the coming years ahead!!
Thank you so much!!
Love the videos! Hopefully your season is a blessed one!!
I hope so! thank you
Awesome experiment. Keep learning and trying new things. Hard work always pays off. Great job
Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom so faithfully! This is great news!
Welcome!
Thanks for all your videos
I love doing experiments and comparisons like that! Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
More to come!
I'm excited for you and your success. The video was well explained and you definitely have great talent.
Thank you - learning more all the time.
We found out the exact thing, so we'll also be doing them as hardwoods. There's a noticeable difference between sticking in January or July.
Either way works, but hardwood seem to work better. I'm going to work this out over the next couple of years to try to get a more clear picture with a bigger sample size, but sure seems to be obvious so far.
Do you use mist through the winter or just water them from time to time?
@@danielfowler5940 if we cover them we don't water, but if they're out in the open we had to water if it didn't rain or snow enough. You have to know if they're dry or not.
Awesome!! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome!! 😊♥️
Don't waste your time on slow or no growth rootings, the mist will keep them alive especially in the middle of the pot but they will grow slow or die because they lack enough growth hormone to succeed in a profitable manor. Volume will allow you to keep & sell better plants for your customers. Great to see you grow, keep it up!
After seeing/reading all your responses it reminded me to like this video.
Great information!
I sure appreciate you being here... thanks for watching.
Yay! good for you!
Thank you Anita!
You grow some awesome trees!! Great success!
Thank you!!
Good job, Craig. Exciting results. I bet if you look back through your videos, you will find exactly when you took those cuttings. I keep a garden calendar where I journal when I plant, harvest, etc. When I prune and do my cuttings also gets documented in the calendar. They sell cheap calendars at Aldi that work great for this. They are spiral bound with hard covers, and have a pocket in them as well. I document all seeds planted and their varieties.
I need to get more organized when it comes to records like you're talking about. No doubt it would help.
Good for you 😎
Great video! So many advantages of using winter down time to get cuttings started. If you think about, you do get an extra growing season in vs rooting in the summer. Both have their challenges and benefits but the hardwood winter cuttings just seem stronger and if they root they really take off in the spring.
Very good information and thank you for always trying new ideas! 👍🙏🏼🌲
Very true!
Thank you for sharing these great results. I tried my hand at soft wood cuttings this summer and was moderately successful, but I think I started them too late in the summer. Definitely going the hardwood route this winter. Would love to see a video of how do you do the hardwood cuttings, especially hydrangeas. Thank you for another great video!!!
"Moderately successful" is great for the first time, for sure!
I’m excited for you! I love hearing the joy in your voice. Can you show a link to the sand soil you’re used to propagate these hardwood cuttings.
I don't really have a link. It's a combination of coarse sand and pine bark. Pure sand is fine... I just add pine bark so the pans aren't so heavy to move around when I need to. Wet sand is HEAVY.
How exciting!!
Yes it is!
Love your channel, was watching a channel on propagating white pines, one mention the man made was that the deeper the pan the better, retains a little more heat:)
Exciting news by the way!
i took a pan full of green giants in🎉 january and they were rooted by july..I love hardwood winter cuttings.
So the older ones are bigger. Seems natural.
Super! It will be very interesting to see the growth rate of the two groups in another season. I wonder if the small misted ones will catch up with the cuttings
They won't catch up, they'll just take another growing season before they can be sold - which is no problem for me!
Same result with me in the UK, taking western red cedar cuttings, late winter was 100% success rate, cuttings in spring/summer always a few that die.
I stick cuttings from February until mid August every year. The difference is like you said timing on when they are ready to sell. I keep several parent plants all over my yard of each kind so I can continuously have a supply of cuttings.
Do you use any bottom? I'm also curious to know what zone you're in. I'm here in the Pacific Northwest I'm going to try and do some propagation in one of my greenhouses.
@@6768jordan I have used bottom heat for about 4 weeks just to get the calousing started but it’s not necessary. I’m in zone 6 b.
Amazing can’t wait till February now lol
Me too!
Could not find green giants here, so I ordered online thru tractor supply. Less than $20/tree but a lot of cuttings on a live tree. Had to pick up to avoid shipping costs, but they look really good. Wanted to let people know if they're trying to find these this time of year to propagate like you do in your video.
Hello mate. Just watching this video again. I was wondering if the cuttings that are green but not rooted were the cuttings that didn't have the bit of bark tag left on. Maybe I'll do an experiment here in the UK. Great videos mate. Thanks for letting us watch them. Brilliant 👍
Good question! I don't know.
Finally you have 100 percent 👍
thankful
Great success. They went in say December/ January hardwood did you transfer these at anytime to intermittent mist? Thanks again
No. I stuck them in winter and left them in an area where they caught water from my regular irrigation every day.
Whats your rooted media that you use? How much does a potted one sell for?
I love propagate cipress particulary leyland cipres
Mid August is hurricane season here 😂
Awesome stuff, what is your sand mixture you are making?
It’s just sand and pine fines. Can use just sand- the pine just makes it lighter weight- easier to move it around when I need to.
Sorry if I missed it in the videos. Once it starts getting warmer outside do you need to start misting all summer and then just let them sit during the winter? Thank you!
The hardwoods never get put in mist. They sit out under a shade cloth with my other plants, getting sprinkler once a day
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What do you think about February cuttings in zone 5b? Would you suggest maybe a short stay in the garage instead of putting them outside to freeze immediately or should one wait till late march before sticking them.
I’d stick them pretty much any time in winter… they’re already dormant, freeze winter hurt them
For the hardwood cuttings were they kept under mist in and did they have any kind of winter frost protection?
No mist. No winter protection.
Very interesting, but I wish I could determine what the cuttings were
Thuja 'Green Giant." An Arborvitae
We have trouble with Green Giants propagation. We do not have mist and this looks like a good idea. How often do you water the hardwood cuttings and do you leave them in the shade and outside all winter until they get big enough to repot(summer). Just keep them watered. We would like to buy some. Do you have a minimum and how much per plant. We live in SC
Any info pertaining to our plants for sale will be posted here in a few weeks. Need a good rain first to be able to dig. I stick the cutting in winter and have done nothing to these but leave them under a shade cloth, receiving daily irrigation with my other plants. Once they rooted, I put a tablespoon or two of slow release fertilizer on them. Nothing else.
Question about the medium you are using- was it the same starting/potting medium in both batches? I thought you implied it was, it just looked sandier in the second (larger) batch. And also, do you reuse that medium? Do you mix it up with a larger batch of 'fresh' stuff and just keep reusing it? And adding slow release fertilizer just makes up for reusing it over and over?
Same. It's a mixture of sand and pine bark. Pure sand it fine as long as it's not the beach like, flour, texture. I've used a product called "play sand" that works fine. Any masonry sand should be good. The more coarse the better... it HAS TO DRAIN. I've used and reused the same stuff for years... adding more each y ear. It doesn't "go bad," as far as I can tell. At least not in a year or two.
@@savvydirtfarmer Thanks so much!!
dzieki, ten film jest swietny.
For the winter cuttings, did you put them under mist or just water every once in awhile? Were they just kept outside in your shade house
Kept outside in shade house. Once they were well rooted, I slipped them out so they got more, but not all day, sun
Where are you located that you propagate in Feb? Thanks for the videos.
I stick cuttings in Feb; they just sit there til early Spring when begin calousing, then rooting. Zone 7
How much would each of the large ones bring at a sale in the next year? They sure do look good and the extra great thing is that you can make larger plants when there is less going on at that time of year.
We sell these in trade 1 size pots and get about $8 each for them. We sell many hundreds, up to about 2000 of them each year.
Great! So the difference is the large ones were cut and planted 5 months earlier?
Yes, exactly. Now, I gotta see if I can replicate it this year.
Thanks I’ll be watching also is it better to do shade cover than a greenhouse with plastic. Thanks
I use shade ; others may get better results with something else
@@savvydirtfarmer is it better to use shade than plastic
I have a hydrangea
I have a old hydrangea from my granny that I just got it’s at
Least 20olus years old I don’t have any idea what kind would u have any idea it would be. Thanks love your channel
So I'm assuming you will pot those into trade gallons now. Will you add more fertilizer now or wait until spring to fertilize them more?
I will pot them soon and fertilize them later on, probably about March. They won't grow any between now and then anyway.
So do you mist the cuttings after the first frost? Or do they just go under regular irrigation?
Mist is a summer time propagation method. The cuttings I stuck in February were under my regular shade receiving normal once a day irrigation from sprinkler.
wonderful.......
HOWEVER...here in dripping springs texas, ALL thulas were killed from the heat, even 4 and 5 year old chest high trees, we had this summer. so forget that zone crap...there is zone 8 and then there is zone 8 in purgatory!!!! it depends on you location.
HOW DO I DO THIS FOR MY WAX MYRTLES??? those seem to last through anything, any kind of weather.
please do a wax myrtle cutting video.
Sorry... don't know anything about wax myrtles... never grown them.
Is this a good moment to divide them? I have some of them into the grownd and i was wondering if i should dig them up and pot them, but winter is coming and i was wandering maybe if its better to dig them up in the end of the winter, or i should do it now and put them in the greenhouse, what is your opinion, thank you and by the way, same thing happened to me, still green cuttings but no roots!
You can dig and pot now, or just wait a couple months. Either is fine. No need to put in a greenhouse at all.
@@savvydirtfarmer ok, thank you, i thought it would be better to dig them up an pot them, maybe the roots will establish now and in the spring they will just start growing, but in the same time i was thinking that maybe they are better protected in the ground!
Unfortunately arborvitaes do not grow here but some of the Cypress do I think I will try your tip with them and see how they turn out you just never know
I would do cypress the same way
whats the content of growing medium and slow release fertilzer you use on them?
Growing medium? Pine bark and hardwood bark. Fertilizer? I use 18-5-12 slow release for everything. Propagation fro green giants? Softwood under mist in summer; hardwoods stuck in winter. Root hormone? I don't use any, ever.
Thanks for the information keep ‘em comin my guy 🤌
You got it!
I'm cutting five gallon drums down to make my cuttings trays. I find the black ones are better
It looks like there were little yellow granules of fertilizer in the medium. If so, which brand did you use?
Florikan or Osmocote
Great video! Do you think this propagation technique would work with Spartan Juniper?
Yes, absolutely... I haven't tried it though
Thanks! Guess I will give it a try.
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What is your rooting media exactly? Just sand or is it a mix?
Sand, mainly. Can be pure sand. I mix in some pine bark (fine) just to make is less heavy when I need to pick the pans up and move them around.
Now is 4/10. Is it still good time do propagation? Thank you for sharing ❤
Need to get it done before they break dormancy
Can this work under indoor grow lights…??? I’ve stared 200 cuttings indoors under my lights, misting regularly… I’ve done this with other plants, but not evergreens…
No idea.. I've never used grow lights. But the thing about doing them this way is they need a dormant period (winter). So no need to rush them to try to get them to root in winter. They just need to be stuck in winter and come Spring they will do their thing naturally as the temps slowly warm up.
What are these small yellowish balls between the plants? is this feritilizer or something else?
fertilizer
Hi I had ask you maybe about a week ago of what’s the best soil I can mix for my Italian cypress I live in the tropics so I do not have access to the soil medium you’re using any help will be appreciated you did not answer me the last don’t know why😢
Your question is too vague, I can't answer it. Are you planting in the ground or in a pot? When you say "soil medium," that usually means potting soil, but Italian Cypress get very big, so I'm assuming you're planting in the ground?? I don't know anything about tropical plant growing and as to soil medium, it all comes down to what is available in your location because it varies greatly by region.
@savvydirtfarmer okay yes it's going to be in pot's
Did you mist the winter cuttings all summer too?
No, everything freezes in winter, mist system is drained
I mean during the summer after they've been in the pot for several months. Do you go ahead and put them in the mister then to get them to grow so fast?
I just purchased some green giant trees I live in 6a. Can I plant them now or wait till spring I live in eastern Kentucky. Thanks I’ve been learning a lot on your videos. Thanks Robert gross
You can plant them now or wait. They won't do anything til Spring at this point, but planting them now won't hurt you a bit.
@@savvydirtfarmer ok thanks I was afraid if I planted them if it frost it would hurt the plants
@@robertgross9066 they'll be fine. Main thing is for them to not dry out in the cold months... come Spring, they'll be ready to grow!
@@savvydirtfarmer I was wanting your u tube and you
Said u sale bare root plants what do
U have and price I’m very interested thanks
@@robertgross9066 I'll have some green giants and hostas for sale in a few weeks... weather depending. Any info will be posted here. thanks
I'll be taking hardwood cuttings of my various hollies & cypress shrubs when if finally gets cold in north Texas. You put your summer cuttings under mist, what'd you do with the winter ones?
Do you know if green giants can be grown from seed? I bought seeds that claimed to be green giant, and they have certainly germinated and the seedlings are doing very well, but i'm beginning to wonder if they are actually green giant or some other thuja variety. I see comments on various sites that state green giants cannot be grown from seed!
No. They can only be grown from cuttings or in a lab. They are hybrids, and as such, will not come true from seed.
I was gonna try this can I do this inside
I really don't know. There's no need to do it inside though.
Question: Do you put the plastic pan in the greenhouse or leave it on the outside North wall ?
AND do you drill holes in the pan?
I can't seem to find agreement on these issues. HELP?😊
Since I don't have a greenhouse, that's a no. Holes? If it's outside in the weather, there HAS to be holes or 100% of your cuttings will drown. That's not debatable. North wall? Mine are sitting outside in the weather... 300 feet from the nearest wall of any kind.
@@savvydirtfarmer Because I live a few hours north of Seattle, I had heard of putting starts in a hoop house with heat mats, etc. And always (in the Pacific Northwest) place your starts on the north side of a building so it doesn't get direct sunlight.
I appreciate your time and consideration in answering my question. 👍
Your way sounds much easier 😁
Happy Holidays!
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@savvydirtfarmer soooo, I could take cuttings straight to where I'm going to grow them out completely?
Root your cuttings in a pan, tub, whatever. Once they get big roots, you can let them grow out more in a small nursery type pot or plant them out in the ground.
What state do you live in? Do you get snow and freezing temperatures?
NW Alabama. Snow this winter and low temp of -6F. That's abnormally cold for here, but typically we reach low temp of around 10 degrees F.
Great results! With the hardwood cuttings did you use bottom heat throughout winter and what were your watering intervals?
Enjoy your videos and am happy to see the awesome results sir!
No bottom heat. They sat outside and got watered when it rained. Once weather warmed up, they got hit by sprinklers once a day
The trees aren't dormant yet are they? Isn't it dangerous to untangle the roots before dormancy?
They are dormant
@savvydirtfarmer ok, I never really knew when they went dormant. I usually don't pot mine up until just before taking more cuttings in February, but I'll probably go ahead and free up my propagating totes. Thank you!
What material do you use looks like sand?
It is. I use pure sand. I occasionally add some fine pine bark to make is less heavy for lifting, but that doesn't really change anything other than weight.
What zone are you in? I’d love to try this but am in 4a
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Plant hormones like cytokins could play a role.
Perhaps... I couldn't know less about that.
I have two questions: 1) you planted those two trays, one in February and one in July; which one was planted first? You describe a 5-7 month difference, but do not indicate which tray came first. 2) you, and other propagation videos, show the heavy shearing of the green on each twig before planting; why? how much? you and others also lopped off the tops most of the time, why?
The big ones were done in Feb. Shearing? I don't know exactly. But when a cutting doesn't have any roots, there's nothing to draw water up to support the larger, bushier cutting. So, I make them smaller. Seems to make sense to me, but someone knowledgeable could change my mind.
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I have no control over the TH-cam commercials. None.
That's a shame because when I wanted to listen to your interesting discussion regarding thuja propagation, I'm forced to look at Biden's face. Ugggh!