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Really lovin' your new place Z...
Sometimes reflections sound awesome
I do have to say that isn't the smartest house purchase considering how you make a living evaluating audio gear!🙄🙄🤔🤔🥺 It's like a Master 5 star chef cooking you your last meal using Cooper clad aluminum pans and then heating it up in a microwave. 🤔🤫🤯 The basement is just creepy. Basic recipe, normal house, average room, not a Church hall or a Den of horrors with spiders crawling all over the place. Did you even see the house before you bought it? Perfect house if you are in a church choir, not evaluating speakers at your level of success. Headphones ofcourse it doesn't matter except for the annoying echo as you speak. May sound mean but I'm sure I am not the only person who thinks this with each passing video since you moved. I'm sure the recent views tell the real answer!🤔🤔🥴 If I would have shown you that house layout that I might buy for an audiophile evaluation setup and paid you as a consultant, you would have said I was crazy and rightfully so!🙄🙄🤔🤔🤯😳
These or svs Ultra towers?
@@Charlesfrausto
Unfortunately that's like asking Ben & Jerry's vanilla ice cream or Haagen-Dazs which one taste better to you? All I can tell you is I had the SVS pinnacle's thought they were okay but returned them. Bought the JBL 590's and then wound up getting a whole home theater setup around them, that's how much better they sounded than the Prime Pinnacle from SVS. To me! For the sale price of five hundred bucks each including free shipping back if you don't like them. I mean how can you lose except for the pain in the ass of boxing them back up I suppose!🤔😉😇 The same thing with SVS in regards to their shipping regarding returns so you can have an A B off comparison if you like and have the available credit.🤔😉 I believe you can do the return thing with Crutchfield regarding the Klipsch but with a $75 return fee.
I would not recommend moving the support pillars in the basement because shortly after that you will have a kitchen in your basement. :)
I’m glad to see somebody with sense. Zeos will destroy his home in the pursuit of good sound!
@@geraldl5221 I believe Z was sarcastic.
You know that might not be a bad thing though
😂 I'll become a patron for that 😂
@@goodforwatch funny shit
Well now we just need these compared to the Cornwall 4's for comparison.
Will upvote so Koss can see.
@@ZReviews You mean Koss, the company thats getting pumped by a bunch of reddit bros? That Koss?
No comparison to the midrange in the heritage series.
Wow that room is so much echo. Sounds like a big venue dsp setting xD
Yah the hardwood floors, lack of furniture and windows are not helping at all lol
Its definitely the worst space I've ever used speakers. Basement.. maybe the best.
@@ZReviews you could make it managable if you wanted to. Rugs and furniture/bookcases would help immensely. But you know that.
It's a weird room for sure. Not an obvious spot to put a TV either with the fireplace in the way and the doors on the other wall. Is your home theater/TV room pretty much just in the basement? I know you have that TV room at ground level in that extra bedroom but where would you entertain guests to watch a football game etc?
I don’t think that room has enough untreated reflective surfaces.
Ill order more.
@@ZReviews 😂
I love how it starts with a badass intro and then moves to z panicking trying to pause it.
"LA SCALA" is one of the heritage isn't it?
Yep. That would be epic
"According to the circuit panel"
I also have a "sun room" apparently.
@@Gandalf721 Remove Circuit, Jam in Penny.. A fire will start where your hot-tub is.
Z, ironically you just saved my alot of money.
I can just have these speakers with a good integrated amp. Maybe a sub.
I was going to mono block and the works before I saw this with dual Rel subs....
Ya, game changer. Thanks
I rarely use my sub with my rf-82s and those only have dual 8's however I do turn the sub on when I'm watching a movie.
@@Quietprofessional1 I have a pair of RF82-ii's and I do the same thing. For me personally, I like horns and most flavors of klipsch tower speaker that I have heard, sound just fine without a subwoofer.
"The Imperial Star Destroyers of the audio world"... having owned the RF7i's for 13 years, I agree with that assessment!
I like Klipsch. One of the few companies who are not scared to actually want people to make videos about their speakers.
Any idea about the lawsuit slander speaker company? Im curious what they look like
@@jakass somebody in the comments said "Tekton". I looked them up and they do fit the bill.
Bro, I love your new house. That basement, OMG! Very nice, Congrats!
"just unbolt these giant steel columns... im sure they dont do anything...."
Me laughing nervously: "Hehehe ....uh...yeah?"
I own these speakers and love them. Was looking for the closest thing I could get to being at a live rock concert and a live jazz club and these deliver vs everything else I tried out that wasn't twice the cost. They work best with lots of clean power regardless of the efficiency. Forget the tube amps. Power these with any audiophile brand 250 watt solid state amp of equal cost and turn down the treble 2 or 5 dbs. You will be literally blown away if you get anywhere near reference level. You can shift money from a high end sub into these for home theater when paired with high power. A bi-product of owning these in a suburb is getting to know the local cops.
They are efficient, but not 100db efficient as they say, about 93db. Klipsch measures different(not right) like any others do. These is most for ht, they have alot of slam but the mids have some issues,
Victor is probably getting chewed out at work today.
Like almost 10years ago, I once heard the rf-7’s, the first ones with the black in the middle of the woofer, combined with, I’m guessing, a primaluna prologue tube amp, playing some George Benson and Al Jarreau, and I have never heard anything like it since... 🔥🔥🔥 I’m guessing these are delivering the same/better experience!?!
Yes! The new tweeter/horn is supposed to me much smoother than the original RF7i', which I owned for 13 years. The bottom end will be the same - the RF7's pound out an astounding amount of bass, especially with a good quality powerful amp.
A piece of history many may have forgotten about when talking about Klipsch. The Klipsch Palladium P-39F . Moment of silence. The end. Your welcome.
Ah yes, they were indeed the pinnacle of Klipsch engineering and could compete with the best in the world.
I had all the same reactions to my RP8000s as you had here and it made me laugh out loud. They are mind blowing.
I enjoyed this review thoroughly. Thx Z
Hell I have the Best Buy showroom R-28F and I love them. I'm going to get a pair of Heresy IVs this year I believe. I've got two cheapish Klipsch SW12 subs too but I'd feel kinda funny pairing those 3k speakers with two $250 subs lol. That doesn't mean I won't though haha
I have heard the RP-8000s and they are mighty impressive. I don't think I could rationalize the price jump to RF-7s, TBH.
Yeah in Canada these RF7 are over $6000. I can get the entire top end RP lineup, a 7.2 full theatre for less than that when on sale. (RP8000F, RP504C, RP502S, RP600M, 2x SPL 120NAB) I’m not made of money so this is a no brainer for me, just a few hundred short now, a sale away and I can’t wait!
Own a pair RF7 |||'s , ,Emotiva XMC-2 processor , Parasound JC 5 amp driving the Klipsch ,,,Damn beautiful sound coming whether your're rocking or critical listening , love these ,bang for the buck they rival more expensive speakers .
I had an early set of these which I gave to my daughter and son in law when they built a home theater. They are awesome and very musical.
Oh hell yeah, been waiting for a bi amp tube tweeters, class-d woofers review. Theoretically that's an ideal amplification situation, but I'm too poor for my Hifi dreams.
Btw, you're thinking of the Klipschorns when you're talking about the huge tube corner speaker. The Cornwall is the XXL version of the Heresy (and that other one you reviewed being the XL version)
I want these speakers. It's like having a live band in your lounge room. Tut tut Victor.
32:42 A 15" is exactly 12.5% larger in area than dual tens, so that gives some perspective on bass capability. For most, no subwoofer will be needed, that's correct.
DAMMIT VICTOR!! Just checked my forte iii’s and his name is on em!!
Not the hero we deserve, just the one we got ;)
I genuinely feel bad for him being called out. I hope he wasn’t fired.
Z accept your fate. You shall own Klipsch Lascala's.
Can confirm, LaScala's are really the only speakers that make me want to cheat on my RF-7II's.
@@jonathanhiener2463 Ill take the Klipschorns over the Lascalas.
I use to have LaScalas. Believe or not the mobile DJ company I started with ran all LaScalas with Bryson Amps..
I will say I was never that impressed by them. I found them extremely punchy right in the 60 to 80htz range with almost no extension. I don't know of the commercial versions we ran were different in drivers or Xovers.
I will say that my music taste and use has changed. I think if I listened today, I would find alot I would like with the horns. Especially now doing alot of home theater, the vocals would rock, and today's content almost demands serious subs.
Oh Younger days... and I would kill for those old Bryston amps.. I don't think I had any idea what I had in front of me... I just played music back then....
@@chrisj9008 both/all versions of La Scala need bass reinforcement.
K horns
"oh, I have Guests... time to kill them!" This is so ME!!! I'm crying I'm laughing so hard!
I own a pair of the JBL studio 590's and really like them. I bet those klipsch sound awesome like you say as well. I would love to see you review the JBL hdi 3800. They have 3 8" drivers and a horn tweeter. Retail price is $5000 a pair.
HDI 3800 smoke the RF-7s!
@@paulgyro do they? Im about to sell my 3800's so I can buy the rf7. Bad choice?😅
@@chriss881000 if you ask me yes, RF-7 lack midrange, have a suckout (both measured and heard with my own ears). JBL HDI-3800 a nice and accurate, powerful, speakers. RF-7s have a more exciting high freq response but not accurate by any means.
@@paulgyro maybe il wait and listen to then properly before any dumb choices are maid😅 im also not liking that the 5550$ rf7 have the same crappy terminals and button plate(with no rubber spikes) like the cheapest klipsch they make. Why could they not make the rf7 alittle more premuim 🤔
@@chriss881000 jbl and revel (same) are top of the top bud. Don’t get swayed by enthusiastic reviews.
If you really need to go up. Go revel. If you want a different flavour. See dynaudio. Focal. B&w. Monitor audio.
After many nights of deciding, you’ve convinced me it’s Klipsch 7-111’s. Lord help me now.
Great review. You gained a new subscriber :) I’m thinking about a subwoofer for my Klipsch RF7 III. Any recommendations?
Great review; -how do these compare to the Forte IV's???
Would love to know the answer to this
Star Destroyers of the audio world 😂
Great review 🙏
That living room is a perfect drum recording room, beautiful decay
Yeah if I owned that house my drumkit would be setup on that mezzanine. Neighbors would LOVE ME!
I want Zeos’ house. :-)
That guitar riff in the beginning sounds pretty cool with a bit of echo in the great room
Soundgarden - My Wave
Get yourself RF7 II instead, they look way better (in cherry) cost 1/3rd and sound very similar (depending on a genre could even be better sounding).
My same thoughts exactly. I saved $700 by going with my Cherry 7II's three years ago instead of brand new III's. The II's with the cherry front wood veneer look more high end and classy than the III's. With my Marantz amp, my II's are not bright or harsh sounding at all. Warm sounding, yet still preserve that live Klipsch dynamic sound. Pairing them with the right amp is key. I've also read some reviews where folks have listened to both speakers side by side an pick the II's because the new horn on the III's now sound too muted.
They cost 1/3? Well, that depends on the country you´re from. In my country, used Klipsch´s are rare, and used RF7´s don´t exist. So, a pair of RF 7´s would have to be brand new.
@@mindtraveller100 They had new RF7 II in my country for 1500 euros like 6 month ago, cheapest i see right now is 1970e for a pair. I guess their price is rising since they getting out of stock. But its still better value for sure, they look so much better, and one time i heard them i was blown away.
@@R3scueM3Oh, i´ve just discovered a store that sells the RF7 II´s new. At about the same price as the RF7 III´s... :( 4398 euros... What a rip off...
2nd best.
Where do you go after RF7s? JTR
RTJ
Once you go Klipsch RF7-III, you then go to the Klipsch Jubilees!!
Or JBL HDI’s 😂😂😂
@@MrGfunk215 nah. Hdi's cant be compared with the rf7. Hdi sound much better, but dont have the slam from the double 10"
I’d recommend checking out JTR stuff! Have seen lots of guys upgrade Klipsch to JTR abs haven’t looked back,
NICE LAMINATE FLOOR! beautiful...but a large, thick area rug would do wonders...for the acoustics.
A cardboard box can be surprisingly heavy...I work at a UPS store...it sucks
37:45 Tekton? and you're thinking of their Moab speaker.
the best rf7iii review that I have seen with the most unique setup! Kudos to you brother!
Just bought a pair today. OMFG. YOU ARE RIGHT ON.
I have a set of rf7iii and about 4 months after purchasing they released the Cornwall IV(heritage). I bought them a month later and they are far better for most music. Rf7iii for theater now tho. Cornwall’s for my 2.1. Cornwalls may be the next step up after these, but as far as towers go I couldn’t tell you. I want a set of rf7iii for my bedroom too. Really they should be in every room you wanna listen to anything lol
Just saw you mentioned Cornwall’s after my comment while watching. Cornwall’s aren’t a corner speaker only. That’d be klipschorns. And before those you have lascalas. A lot to still review in the heritage line. Hereseys are just the begging. Forte iii are above those, and they’re about to release the forte IV. So maybe klipsch will send you those next and you can work your way up through the heritage line.
Suggestion for next speaker, something from JTR.
Or RTJ
Keep them, I have the RF-7 IIs and RF-83s and they are awesome
Zeos, even though they are efficient, throw 150-200 watts at them and you will be amazed and I can assure you they won’t get all squirrelly on you. And you won’t need to bi amp.
Cowboy Bebop is the best
The house look amazing. I don’t care if there is an echo it is better than most places reviewers and audiophiles are using here on TH-cam. Mezzanine in a massive living room....I mean, you could literally live just in that part of the house ( and you probably do spend enough time there to call it living in it ). I am considering Klipsch RP8000F as my daily driver speakers so thanks for reviewing these too.
Klipsch pro or heritage is the way to go. This is the reference endgame.
Literally just watched your KLF-10 review yesterday, and like magic the RF7 III's are up the very next day!
I’ve been very happy with my pair
If I were to get the full set, what receiver or amp would you recommend? I'm still pretty much a novice to this stuff
@@Adiopowered any.
@@Adiopowered dont listen to him "any" , he dont know tf he is talking about. I cheap sorround reciver wont do the job
Love you Zeos, but I'm gonna have to help you out with your Greek pronunciation of the poor Greek manufacturer of the tube amps in this video- I'm Sophocles, which is way easier to say than TSAH-keer- ree-diss. The TSA is pronounced like Tsetse fly. The emphasis is on the first syllable of the four syllables. I'm not a Greek scholar by any means but I have been Greek all of my life and have immersed myself in the culture and the language! I hope this helps my man, and keep up the great work you do. I've benefitted from the yard sales and have benefitted from you channel in general throughout this shitty Covid thing we call a pandemic!!
So much to learn.
Nice explanation Dean Sophocles, but let me point out a minor correction: the emphasis (stressing) is at the "ree" syllabe. And btw the "d" is pronounced like "th" in " the", "they" etc. The name in Greek scripture is Τσακιρίδης.
So if you're going to use subwoofers in your HT anyway, it seems like it isn't worth it to spend that much on these big towers. Need a comparison of the Heresy's with subs and these.
I had four pair of the of the Klipsch klf thirties which rocked the world.😅 Two pair of the klf ponies with augmented rock in the world and then two pair of the klf tens which put a little more rumble under your feet in a room that's 42ft lawn 25 ft wide with 10-foot feelings. No please be reminded I bought all these speakers back between 1998 and the year 2008 swear to God that the best speakers bat flips ever produced in the way of a tower but sadly they decided to discontinue them.. really got to wonder why they were beautiful😊😊
I am late to this video, but here let me summarize the comments section for anyone later than me:
1. Zeos, were you aware that carpet exists?
2. Zeos, I take what you say audio wise as gospel because I respect your intellect, but at the same time I am worried that you are actually going to just rip out beams that support your ground floor! Also, what is sarcasm?
3. Nice new house, oh, you have had it since August? Gonna be hard to act like I am a big fan now.
4. Oh also, Klipsch RF7 are really good.
5. Once again Zeos, carpets are a thing, like in small sections sometimes called throw rugs. I am surprised you haven't thought of this since August, but we are here to help.
These are BIG TIDDY VAMPIRE LADY SPEAKERS, gotcha (God I love Klipsch)
Where do you go from the RF7's? Anything in Klipsch's Heritage range starting from the Forté
I have the fortes and ive owned many speakers, and reference klipsch stuff, rf82, rp3, and the whole kg line and the quartet and chorus, the forte has been my favorite ive had yet by a pretty good margin.
My Ohm H's have this, and I had to drop it down a notch because the super tweeters wanted to murder my ears at any listening level. I have a pair of JBL L19s with the knob on the back that adjusts the crossover anywhere from all tweeter or all woofer. Some of the best sounding speakers I ever heard have all been made in the 70's.
To answer your "what next" question the Klipsch palladium was the "next" when it existed.
Get your hands on some cornwalls if you can. One 15 inch with two horns. B stock is about the same price as the RF7IIIS.
He should setup a bowling alley through the middle of his basement between listening areas... then some cool lighting and bowling chotchskis.
If you don't want to do THAT speaker company. You can do Zu Audio instead which also does large driver high efficiency speakers which has a range from sub 1000 to 40k speakers.
There's also some other boutique speaker manufactures/sellers like Decware which make a variety of full range driver, open baffle, omni directional and modular (can be bookshelf or plugged into a tower stand to give it more resonance/low end) They also do a range of tube amps across the price range.
Top of the line fun speakers. SOLD!
Hello Z. Missed you. I'm glad to see and know that you're ok. Stay safe. Hugs to you. 😉
Zeos i just finished my home theater all emotiva t2+ c2+ 4x e2+ 4x vulta in ceiling and 2x S15 denon x6700h and getting an emotiva 3 channel amp for front 3
The intro was so cinematic 🤣
Getting a Hegel amp was solving every kind of problem you could imagine with big klipsch speakers. For me at least
Zeos audio farm, coined it ! Makes you want to give in and go floorstanders.
I bougj a pair of klipch rf7 in mint condition at a local goodwill 78 dollars for the pair they sound amazing with my yamaha as1200
Off course 😂
"experimenting with bi amping..."
Sounds like you need that border open soon...
You need to try that biamp set up on the 590s /580s wonder if they still have room to improve...
Still crazy your saying the 590 at $900ish for the pair on sale gives the RF7 even a bit of a run. I am sitting on the 580s and debating sending back to wait for a 590 sale. Oh damn you...
Just ordered a set from NFM they went on sale for 1000ea. After watching this review I'm extremely happy with my choice.
Do we need a center channel with these?
And yes, once you go RF7s what do you do? 15.1?
If you haven't tried the Cornwall IV you haven't tried Klipsch yet.
You are right, completely different level and the amazing mids of a Klipsch 3 way.
We need Cornwall 4's in there. with more soft furnishings :-)
You are so fucking random! I Love it :)
"You can't go wrong with Simon and Garfunkel..."
After you've obtained two pair of the RF 7 Mark III and you live with them for 5 years or so then you go to custom-made.. because custom made will be definitely less expensive than spending tens of thousands of dollars on something that can only be used in a small conference room or arena
Not sure he should remove those beams.
Hi end speakers with lots of sound problems?
Hey Zeos. What is better? The Klipsch or Ohm Walsh 2000?
Did Zeos move? It always seemed like lived in an apartment.
Yep
Onward from the RF7III would have to be the JTR Noesis 215RT @4000,each, they are not "pretty" or "refined" but surely they could fuck up your insulation and make the remaining spiders just give up and leave.
Thanks for the review and the Bacca cameo!
Hey Z, what pair tower loudspeakers. would you BUY for $5000.00 or less? I like HiFi, easy going and listing... Rock occasionally. Your advise is alway appreciated.. THANKS
In my opinion a set of heresys with a decent sub set up correctly trumps any of the bigger full range klipsch heritage. I’ve compared the two and the heresy is much cleaner and tight. Also more versatile
Yep. I'm satisfied with my Heresy III + SVS subwoofer. Once integrated and DSP'd carefully, that combo plays seamlessly.
Why would you say the heresy is more versatile then the forte? I want a big forward soundstage and would like to avoid a sub as much as I can without sacrificing muscular bottom end.
It's a shame, but the larger your driver size for the Focal floor-standing speakers, The More $$$$. I Wish Focal had something directly competing with these because they make absolutely stellar products.
How do the 590’s sound with that same split bi amp (tube/solid) setup?
Awesome review..thank you Mr Z!
I think the speakers you were thinking of are Tekton.
Danny could really fix these speakers 😂
I think the Behringer amp is the issue needing a lesser amp for the horn.
Would a calmer A/B amp like Parasound make it so that it would make these sound great with out the fuss of bi amping?
Just hundreds of D amp power seems too much for these.
The Ohms, ok but not a sensitive Klipsch.
That is my way of saying I don't want to have to fiddle with it. Lol
What do you think Mr. Z?
Some drapes and carpeting would make ANY speaker sound better in this room. Listen to the echo of the room when he's talking. SMH.
His audio room is in the basement
Very nice digs dude. I have the RP-160m which I am pretty sure are of the same pedigree. The have the same wedge pedestal under them.
Some day I hope to graduate to a speaker I can hit with my car.
I believe you mentioned you had the JBL 590s.. If that's true, what would be your honest comparison to the JBL 590 and the klipsch RF 7 s ?? Which you would DEFINITELY have over the other ??
Thanks so much in advance !
Hi Zeos. Dont get made at me but I think you should get a reference amp for testing. Because I have the rp 8000f which is a very similar speaker to these and I don't that problem with the tweeter like at all. Granted its running off a 4000 dollar class ab amp with 400w per channel, but yeah I don't hear any imbalance at high volume. I know your not one to review/ spend that much on amplifier but i thought I'd throw it out there 👌🏾
I'm going to make a minor suggestion. For the benefit of us less fortunate (read: poor) people, could you stagger the "Diamond" reviews a bit? We've had 3 or 4 products in a row and it's really doing a number on my self-esteem :)
or how do the Rf7iii compare to the Forte 3's??
Would love to know this
I was thinking how spooky that house would be at night living there all alone
Then the cat made the noise ....
NOPE
Try anything from the klf line
Wow that sounds nice , I'm now thinking of tubes and biamping, damn you Zeos.
what would happen if you attached an spl150 to these? would it ruin it, or just improve it by 1% because these are so good?