Excellent review, very helpful information for what type of rider this bike is geared towards and the pricing. Can you also add, if you haven't done so included any unique details that is not listed by the manufacturer. Something that'll catch someone's interest and hopefully get to start riding.
Excellent video. Nice and thorough overview of all the bike components, and I like your insights on what type of rider this bike is geared towards and the price point. Nice work!
I own the 2022 Giant Trance 27.5" in aluminum ( size M ) same bike that you reviewed in your channel , I hate the fact that is black all over ( they could have slapped at least a couple of colored stickers on the downtube ) but overall , this bike is a dream and more than enough for my riding needs but that marin Hawk Hill is a dream come true . I picked up the bike after your review if it . I started riding in Spain in 2003 and I haven't stopped eversince , I'm 5'8" , 58 years old , very , very healthy and kind of look like you . If I hadn't gone for the Giant , I'd probably had that bike in my house . One last thing ...... I love your channel .
Kinda tough to answer. A smooth, lighter rider would probably be fine... a heavy rider could have wheel, crank and/or fork issues. The frames are tough but many of the components lighter duty
@@curtisbrumwell84 almost exactly the same but the Rift Zone with the 29 inch wheels has 65.5 degree head angle and the Hawk Hill with the 27.5 wheels that is now changed names to the Rift Zone 27.5 has 66.5 degree head angle. I have a 2021 Hawk Hill 2. I got one of the last ones before the name change. Great bike. Perfect head angle at 66.5. I wouldn't want it any slacker...its perfect.
I'm old school and have been stuck in my ways for a long time. I've ridden on and off a lot of different two wheeled things over the years (42 years old) my current bike is an old hardtail with two forks old school Z1 drop off and a Junior T. all I've ever ridden is 26' hard tail and it's time for a little cushion on the rear end.That explained here's my opinion on your videos, they are pretty informative but I'm always wanting a little more information because I've been hiding under a rock for a very long time and all the new mountain bike tech and parts are greek to me again. they use some of the same words like Deore but I don't know where that lands in the current line up for Shimano. I would love to see videos that explain components from entry level to high level with pros and cons of each one sprinkled in.I need a little help learning about how the new stuff works and doesn't work so I make a good choice when I buy a new bike... That being said I'm probably going to buy this bike if I can get my hands on one that fits me during the covid shortage
Really looking at the 2022 Rift Zone 2 to replace my loved 2005 Giant Reign 2. My Giant is really old, but I had it built back in 2005, rode it for maybe a year and went full into motocross. So, the Giant is pretty much like new. Trying to decide if I should just run the Giant until it fails, or get a more modern bike now. The main things that the Marin will offer me i think are dropper seat post and 27.5 wheels. My Reign is really well speced out, so not sure those two things are worth it. Any insight?
im kinda in a middle of deciding between this 2021 marin hawk hill/rift zone 27.5 and 2021 marin san quentin. what made you decide to go on hardtail rather than full-sus ? can you share a bit :)
@@k.irsyad I don't really need a full sus at the moment for the riding that I will be doing and I watched all the Matt Jones videos of the marin san quentin 3 I thought that bike is the bike for me it dose everything I will need it to do and it looks sick. The hawk hill bikes look awsome to.
I’m from Australia too,, There’s also a marida one twenty 600 Similar too Rift zone 2. Pick mine up $2600 Australian $ from 99 bikes very decent spec for money
Any thoughts? Looking at 27.5 rift zone 2 and Giant Trance 2 27.5. Also looking at the 27.5 giant fathom vs San Quentin for hardtail. All input appreciated. This was a great vid bringing me closer to the Rift
You could almost pick these bikes on the colour/brand you prefer. Really good bikes all around. The one that initially gets you the most stoked to ride might be the easiest way to pick.
I'm looking to get the hawk hill as my first FS MTB. Is the $800 price difference worth it for the 3 over the 2? I'm looking to keep the bike for a while and don't plan on upgrading components. Is there a significant difference between the two? I've never ridden a FS so I don't have an opinion or preference yet.
If you aren't an aggressive rider and the terrain you ride is mellow you may not notice the difference. If you are aggressive, or have more demanding terrain (steeper/chunkier descents), the suspension and brake upgrade on the 3 becomes more evident and makes the step up in price worth it.
Excellent review, very helpful information for what type of rider this bike is geared towards and the pricing. Can you also add, if you haven't done so included any unique details that is not listed by the manufacturer. Something that'll catch someone's interest and hopefully get to start riding.
Just got one it is sick!
Nice. Congrats
Great overview. That was very helpful and detailed.
Thanks!
Excellent video. Nice and thorough overview of all the bike components, and I like your insights on what type of rider this bike is geared towards and the price point. Nice work!
Thank you.
This video has made me place an order. Just gotta wait until July sadly
same
I own the 2022 Giant Trance 27.5" in aluminum ( size M ) same bike that you reviewed in your channel , I hate the fact that is black all over ( they could have slapped at least a couple of colored stickers on the downtube ) but overall , this bike is a dream and more than enough for my riding needs but that marin Hawk Hill is a dream come true . I picked up the bike after your review if it . I started riding in Spain in 2003 and I haven't stopped eversince , I'm 5'8" , 58 years old , very , very healthy and kind of look like you . If I hadn't gone for the Giant , I'd probably had that bike in my house . One last thing ...... I love your channel .
I'm waiting for one of these to arrive at one of my local stores in the UK so it's nice to be able to take a look around in advance, thank you
Thanks! I love the looks of this bike. Sharp enough to look great but not a colour combination that will look dated by next year.
Great review and great bike. I'm in Australia and I have a bunch of videos on my channel riding it. Very capable bike
Hey can this bike handle 4 foot drops to flat on a daily basis
Kinda tough to answer. A smooth, lighter rider would probably be fine... a heavy rider could have wheel, crank and/or fork issues. The frames are tough but many of the components lighter duty
Maybe you can show the different sizes.
compare, i agree! nice vid tho😉😉😉
So torn between this & the Rift Zone 2...both stunning too!!! 🙈😍
same bike different name as far as I can tell
@@curtisbrumwell84 almost exactly the same but the Rift Zone with the 29 inch wheels has 65.5 degree head angle and the Hawk Hill with the 27.5 wheels that is now changed names to the Rift Zone 27.5 has 66.5 degree head angle. I have a 2021 Hawk Hill 2. I got one of the last ones before the name change. Great bike. Perfect head angle at 66.5. I wouldn't want it any slacker...its perfect.
How much does it weigh? Thank
How much does it weight tho?
Good for jumps as well?
Different people have different ideas of what jumping means. This frame is really tough. The fork is not rated for jumping or "stunts".
@@BikeBrosBikeShop ok my idea of jumping is dirt jumps getting up to 1 to 2 metres in height and beyond
Very thorough review, but you failed to mention the bottom bracket.
Threaded? Press in?
I’m leery of press ins. Should this be a concern? TIA
It has a threaded bb. Sorry if I missed that.
How can I get the logos from your store ?
Is the 17” medium size and 19” is the Large. I just don’t want to make mistake when I do online ordering?
Those measurements do seem to match the medium and large.
I believe the travel on that Recon fork can be increased to 150mm? Am I right?
I have one, and I dont believe so.
Yes it can be increased to 150mm. Its quite easy and there's a few tutorial videos
I have the same
Are they not to heavy ?
I don't think so
Would you reccomend this over the giant stance 27.5?
We recommend both equally.
I'm old school and have been stuck in my ways for a long time. I've ridden on and off a lot of different two wheeled things over the years (42 years old) my current bike is an old hardtail with two forks old school Z1 drop off and a Junior T. all I've ever ridden is 26' hard tail and it's time for a little cushion on the rear end.That explained here's my opinion on your videos, they are pretty informative but I'm always wanting a little more information because I've been hiding under a rock for a very long time and all the new mountain bike tech and parts are greek to me again. they use some of the same words like Deore but I don't know where that lands in the current line up for Shimano. I would love to see videos that explain components from entry level to high level with pros and cons of each one sprinkled in.I need a little help learning about how the new stuff works and doesn't work so I make a good choice when I buy a new bike... That being said I'm probably going to buy this bike if I can get my hands on one that fits me during the covid shortage
Hi, thanks for watching. Thanks for the video idea. Once the crazy season slows down hopefully I will have the time to do that sort of thing...
What are the size of the bikes in this video?? the seat tube seems alot higher on the hawk hill rather than the rift zone...
I usually try to mention the size of the bike being shown. Between the 2 models they look very similar in the same size
Really looking at the 2022 Rift Zone 2 to replace my loved 2005 Giant Reign 2. My Giant is really old, but I had it built back in 2005, rode it for maybe a year and went full into motocross. So, the Giant is pretty much like new. Trying to decide if I should just run the Giant until it fails, or get a more modern bike now. The main things that the Marin will offer me i think are dropper seat post and 27.5 wheels. My Reign is really well speced out, so not sure those two things are worth it. Any insight?
hi im from the uk ive just ordered the new marin san quentin 3 2021
im kinda in a middle of deciding between this 2021 marin hawk hill/rift zone 27.5 and 2021 marin san quentin. what made you decide to go on hardtail rather than full-sus ? can you share a bit :)
@@k.irsyad I don't really need a full sus at the moment for the riding that I will be doing and I watched all the Matt Jones videos of the marin san quentin 3 I thought that bike is the bike for me it dose everything I will need it to do and it looks sick. The hawk hill bikes look awsome to.
Where did you order from mate I'm struggling to get hold of a San quentin 3
Shim-ano 🤣😂 sorry I've never heard it pronounce that way before.
No harm.... Great review though thank you! Is 190 max on that rear shock?
While we're sold out so I can't check by actually looking at one of these, rear max pressure is typically 300 psi.
On M size Hawk Hill does the dropper go all the way down?
What fast rolling tyres with a grip would you recomend?
Maxxis Dissector or Rekon or Schwalbe Hans Damp, Michelin Force AM... lots to consider regarding you local dirt and wet/dry
@@BikeBrosBikeShop thanks for your help
Do you ship to Australia?
Sorry but we don't.
Bicyclesonline.com.au is the Australian distributor. But seems every bike shop in the world is low on supply of bikes because of covid.
I’m from Australia too,, There’s also a marida one twenty 600 Similar too Rift zone 2. Pick mine up $2600 Australian $ from 99 bikes very decent spec for money
Any thoughts? Looking at 27.5 rift zone 2 and Giant Trance 2 27.5. Also looking at the 27.5 giant fathom vs San Quentin for hardtail. All input appreciated. This was a great vid bringing me closer to the Rift
You could almost pick these bikes on the colour/brand you prefer. Really good bikes all around. The one that initially gets you the most stoked to ride might be the easiest way to pick.
How are you guys getting the 2021’s? Can’t get them here in the states
We had our orders in a long time ago... I think that is how we got these...
If I’m getting a size M, does it make sense for me to get the 29? I’m still on 26!
No wrong choice. Try them and see what feels best... it is subtle but most people just find one feels more natural.
I'm looking to get the hawk hill as my first FS MTB. Is the $800 price difference worth it for the 3 over the 2? I'm looking to keep the bike for a while and don't plan on upgrading components. Is there a significant difference between the two? I've never ridden a FS so I don't have an opinion or preference yet.
If you aren't an aggressive rider and the terrain you ride is mellow you may not notice the difference. If you are aggressive, or have more demanding terrain (steeper/chunkier descents), the suspension and brake upgrade on the 3 becomes more evident and makes the step up in price worth it.