TCU has the potential to be a consistent force. School is growing rapidly just like the metroplex it’s located in. If TCU can lock down the dfw metroplex for recruits and keep a consistent above average coaching staff they’ll likely never have a repeat of the past 4 years for awhile.
@@VahidMusictxyessssss! One of the announcers on CW broadcast of TCU-SMU said during the game they were “cross town rivalry”. No, we in Fort Worth are not a suburb of Dallas. We are not cross town. We are a separate and huge city 33 miles from each other. So, thanks for posting.
Our family has had BYU season tickets for decades now and I really miss those BYU, TCU, Utah, Boise St, and even Air Force occasionally games that were always super physical and fun each year
Same in 2010….. that team was absolutely ludicrous. If 10 TCU isn’t good enough than 95% that make the playoffs today are complete dogsh!t…… - back to back undefeated regular seasons - back to back #1 defenses in the country - sub 10 points allowed per game with 4 shutouts - Top 5 total offense averaging 40+ppg, scoring 60+ twice - 2 Top 15 wins by 35+ - road top 10 win by 40 - 2nd highest margin of victory per game in the country at 30+. - 4 Top 25 wins to finish the year. And that wasn’t good enough….. like wtf
Don’t forget the next rise. Like the roller coaster of life winning and losing seasons will come and go. Each teaching their own lessons in different ways. When I strapped it up for TCU in 1994-95 no matter our wins or losses. It was all winning. The experience of being a Student/Athlete was worth a Million dollars and getting to do it TCU lead by Pat Sullivan was literally Priceless to me. Not to mention graduating with my degree changed my life. So…. Thanks for making the video. You rock man! The next Rise of TCU football is just around the corner…but it’s all wins anyway.
University of San Francisco Dons have an interesting story. The 1951 team was invited to the Orange Bowl only if their black players wouldn't play. They declined the invitation and the program was disbanded
Mine was Michael Crabtree at Texas tech but rg3 put Baylor on the map. They've been pretty good ever since rg3 minus a few god awful seasons here and there
Since Cincinnati is on the rise big time now, playoff appearance and Big 12 member I think doing them next is worth it. ETA: Cincinnati was a basketball school before Brian Kelly got there.
UC lost basically everyone from this years class and their recruiting classes are barely average.. I'm sure they'll be "good" by G5 standards but idk if they will be a national powerhouse.
@@danielmiller9012 they'll take a step back the year for sure but it's not like they've been recruiting 5 stars in the first place. Luke fickel prved something this year that recruits will notice. He proved you can go to Cincinnati compete for a national championship and go to the NFL. Cincinnati had 9 players drafted this year which was the third most in all of cfb behind only Georgia with 15 and LSU with 10. They had more players drafted than Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Clemson, and most certainly Texas which are all schools full of top highschool recruits
Great Video!! even Better Topic. As An Alumni And Former Player Myself I Loved The History and Video Quality. I Haven't Ever Watched One Of Your Videos Before But I'm Glad I Ran Across this Video In my Recommended.. keep up the Good Work.
@@Frog_Mixes nah he wouldn't get with NIL and players were transferring out because of it. His archaic style had to change. He hasn't been gone a year and there's already a bigger TCU social media presence than ever. We have to win now.
With all respect, give Sonny a chance. Dykes has changed the player culture at TCU and has earned the teams trust quickly while installing entirely new playbooks on both sides of the ball. GP was an incredible coach for TCU and is the sole reason that we are in a power 5 and I do not want to diminish that, but as of recent the players have seen him as domineering and too traditional in the football sense to compete with the smoke and mirrors teams in the Big12. Also might add, these last 4 seasons have been due to Gary and his refusal to evolve with the game - Sonny hasn’t played a single game with TCU yet.
TCU was, from about 2000-2011, the greatest overachiever in college football. This was largely due to Gary Patterson's leadership. His teams were strong in all phases of the game but particularly shined on defense. What happened the past five years was a gradual decline into mediocrity, leading to Patterson being shown the door. I've tried to pinpoint the reason for all that happened but it is a multi-faceted answer. Whatever, it is a shame because TCU was, during its heyday, a very entertaining team to watch. I doubt that Sonny Dykes can revive the magic.
I would put Utah and Boise State above them due to the extra BCS bowl wins during that time, but there is no denying how much they achieved during that span.
Thats because its a bit of a false perception that offense in thr BigXII has been an almost purely pass focused approach. Over the last twenty ish years. If you look at all of the best BigXII teams from Texas in the 2000's, OU in their best seasons, TCU, Ok St, Kansas St when they are good etc... They always have elite running games and usually have an NFL RB (or two) and/or a highly mobile QB. Big XII offenses even when putting up big pass stats, have always relied on a solid running game to ultimately win games.
I graduated from TCU last December, and watching TCU Football the last four years was extremely painful. I witnessed the Downfall of TCU football as a student firsthand every ... single ... Saturday. Big Sad
@@zachpeterson1399 Totally, man. When I came to TCU in Fall 2018, Football was so much of a bigger deal than basketball. I did a lot of stuff with TCU Basketball/Frog Army. So, it was a welcome surprise to see TCU Basketball becoming relevant among the student body
Can't believe I'm the first person here to know we went to the national championship in 2022. I remember being at the semifinal and once we won, me and my grandfather went back to out hotel room and I kept slapping myself because I couldn't believe what had actually just happened.
The answer is right there...TCU had Andy Dalton and Trevon Boykin as QBs. A team will only go as far as their QB play allows it. If you don't have an NFL quality QB you simply will not compete. Simple as that. Patterson struck out on QBs just like Mack Brown did at Texas. Wins the Championship and then fails to replace the QB and gets himself fired. Now it cost Patterson his job.
Yep, as a Texas fan I can see how Texas won or loss based largely on QB. Vince young was the main force to win the Rose bowl and NC championship and arguably Texas could have beat Alabama about 4 years later if Colt McCoy did not get hurt. the Applewhite/ Simms controversy was a major factor in some tough losses for Texas also earlier.
The QB matters but it's not the only thing that matters. Texas tech has Baker Mayfield but he transfers to Oklahoma because tech was ass then they had Patrick mahomes and we're still ass not to mention they had days Webb who is still in the NFL he just doesn't start
System matters too, Garret Gilbert left Texas played great at SMU and is still in the NFL...Let's be honest, Patterson refused to move on from Sonny Cumbie when the system plummeted after Boykin left, it was predicable at best. Same with Texas, they were making horrible hires on the offensive staff and not recruiting for any system just getting whatever players they could.
It matters quite a bit, but then again 2010 TCU had 14 future NFL draft picks and their 2014 team had 12 future NFL draft picks So it wasn’t just the QBs. Especially for Daltons era, yeah they were stacked on A Top 5 offense, but they also had #1 ranked defenses in the country for back to back seasons.
I mean despite the inconsistency of Dalton, he was still an All Pro QB at Cincinatti. The guy actually won playoff games in the NFL. The guy still plays in the NFL 12 years after he was drafted. Thats more than 95% of QBs that go in into the NFL can say. And during the Dalton era seeing as they went undefeated two seasons and their only ever loses were to #2 Utah, #3 Boise State and #4 Oklahoma Id say their biggest hinderance to make a national championship is the league screwing them over.
I want to see the University of Minnesota in one of these things. We had success early fell off the map only to become an on again off again threat to some tip level teams.
As a wisconsin grad it’s going to be hard to talk about Minnesota in a positive light. (I’m obviously joking) I have had them on my to do list just haven’t figured out how I want to truly go about it just yet
Idk if you did but you should cover prairie view a&m losing streak. Most aren't interested in hbcu football but it's such a crazy story that I think people would like it. It's the longest losing streak in college football, maybe in all sports
It's crazy. I remember Texas, usc, mich, Wisconsin and cal being power houses and bama being pretty much irrelevant. I really got into foot ball around 05ish so you can imagine my reaction when app state beat Michigan. I didn't watch the game. I had to listen on the radio while on the way home from my to mi. That was the down fall of mighigan football in my opinion. They never recovered till last season but we will see if they can keep the momentum
@@joshallen-kz7vv I said I really got into football in 05. My mom went to Michigan as well as family and friends so I been around Michigan football my whole life
Die hard Boise state fan here, always had lots of respect for tcu growing up. Both Boise and tcu had some awesome wins against each other and both teams were so good back then. Now we both suck haha. Oh well go Broncos!
It's sad out of BYU, Utah, TCU, and Boise state that Boise is the only one left in the go5. Now you have WVU and Louisville moved up as well as Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston. Maybe with the vet fast growing population of Idaho and Boise specifically they can get some respect
@@wesleyowens4089 Yeah I’ve always been pretty surprised that we haven’t gotten into power 5. If anything we deserved it more 10 years ago when we were really doing well. Now I think we would get smacked. Hopefully we get an invite. I’ve always thought pac12 makes more sense but they don’t want us
Boise St. beat TCU twice from this era and should’ve beaten them Three times if we hadn’t missed wide on a FG as time expired. They were our toughest opponent during our 2003-2011 years. Miss them and what they used to be.
Sort of related but somewhat unrelated: I would like to see somebody do a video on defensive end Tommy Blake from TCU. He was a key part of those defenses during the Patterson heyday. The guy was projected to be a top 10 NFL pick before personal issues got in the way. It's a sad story that I think someone should touch on. It's unfortunate that his story has just kind of gotten swept under the rug.
2010 TCU shpuld have played for the Title. That season alone is proof thatbwe need an 8 team playoff. Arguably the best team in the country went undefeated and didn't even get to play for a title.
@Stephen Abootman why not an 8 team playoff. We've already had mutiple seasons where the 5-6 teams are just as good as the 3-4 and sometimes the top 3 are equal bit the 4th isnt quite on that level. So the number 2 gets screwed by havinf a way tougher first game. 8 ensures every worthy team gets in, it ensures all 5 ppwer fives get in, it ensures and undefeated non-power 5 always gets in, and it makes sure that when number 2 is just as good as number 1, they both get a first round matchup advantage.
@Stephen Abootman Yeah except who are you taking as the 4th spot, cuz if it’s not Boise State then you absolutely need an 8 team playoff…. TCU was amazing that season and definitely championship quality, but through 99% of the year they weren’t even the best G5 team. And in all seriousness besides 19 LSU name a single team that’s made the playoffs to date with a better resume than: - 35-1 in 3 years; 12-1 conference champions - 4 Top 25 wins, including a road OOC win over the ACC Champ (vs #8 Utah by 33, at #13 VT by 3, vs #18 Hawaii by 45, at #24 Oregon State by 23). - ranked #2 in total offense - scored 50+ in 50% of games; averaged 48ppg - ranked #2 in total defense - shutout 3 teams; allowed 11.3ppg - outscored 3 teams in the Top 10 for total offense 149-15 - ranked #1 in margin of victory at 36.7 points - ranked #1 in the country by SP+, SRS and Colley Unless Cam plays like a god, Auburn would get an annihilated by that team. And Oregon? Bruh the ducks literally got slaughtered by this team in back to back seasons 57-21. Amazing the heights you can reach when you play Portland State instead of Boise State. ----------------- I mean seriously who would you take? - 12-1 Wisconsin with wins over #5 Ohio State by 23, and #23 Iowa by 1. Lost to #14 Michigan State by 10. The Ohio State win is good, the Michigan State loss is bad, don’t have as many top 25 wins and then there’s common opponents - yucky: Vs San Jose State: 41-21 Boise State at San Jose State: 51-0 - 12-1 Ohio State beat #23 Iowa by 3. Lost by 23 to Wisconsin. So not close on top 25 wins, and way worse loss. - 12-1 Stanford beat #24 Oregon State 38-0. So point on the common opponent head to head for Boise State who only beat them 37-14. But Stanford lost to #2 Oregon by 21. Boise State still has more top 25 wins. - 12-2 Oklahoma; beat #14 Oklahoma State by 6, beat #16 Florida State by 30, beat #19 Nebraska by 3. So somewhat comparable ranked wins. Lost to #17 Mizzou by 9, lost to #21 Texas A&M by 14. So they actually played the same number of Top 25 games. Boise State finished with a better record, lower margin of loss, and greater margin of victory. There’s also common opponents: Oklahoma vs Utah State 31-27 Boise State vs Utah State 56-12 - 10-2 Arkansas. Beat #9 LSU by 8, #15 Miss State by 7 in 2OT, #21 Texas A&M by 7, #22 South Carolina by 21. Lost to #1 Auburn by 22, and to #10 Alabama by 4. Harder schedule. But two loses and one bad loss. Similar wins by lower margins of victory.
Hey it was like a 10 year rise. But Texas tech hasn't done anything since joining the big 12 kinda like Miami in the acc but at least Miami won a national championship
If only TCU didn't have that 2nd half meltdown against Baylor back in 2014, they would've been National Champs. We all witnessed the beatdown they gave Ole Miss in the Sugar Bowl
Remember TCU vs BSU games were always usually really close games. BSU vs TCU. 3 and 2 all time . All thoes games were great games usually three point games . God bless one and all be safe you all.
I kind of did a video like this in Nebraska a few weeks back (th-cam.com/video/sQ_icCAC9f0/w-d-xo.html) but BYU is definitely a team I want to dive deeper on
You cant dominate a team that is literally the all time best record team in the history of the sport. But TCU was able to sneak a couple wins on last second FGs. When your biggest downside is inability to make chip shot FGs with a guy whose accuracy is 93% thats a pretty unstoppable position to be in except then it matters and you lose 3 games because of it.
Dominated Everyone ? Get real. Had 3 seasons since 2012 when you joined the Big 12 that they actually won more than 7 games. Dominated mediocre and losing teams maybe
2010 TCU went on the road against #8 Utah and beat them 47-7…… one of 2 Top 10 wins and one of 4 Top 25 wins. The only team that would’ve beat them that year was Boise State. And the fact that neither team made a national title game that season is arguably one of the greatest disgraces and acts of absolute corruption ever seen in the game….
@@brian2440 Its all about the brand. TCU consistently ranks in lower end of football attendance. One of the smaller fan bases and the smallest enrollment in the whole B12. Add the fact that TCU has not won anything meaningful within the last 5 years and the case can be made that their Power 5 performance has been less than spectacular.
@@talon5368 Again apply that to Kansas, Iowa State and Texas Tech and tell me why TCU is less deserving than those programs? And if you wanna say oh but Kansas basketball program? Ok well TCU just won the B12 in baseball this year. And they won it last year. And they’ve made 4 college World Series appearances in the last 7 years. So try again…. If you wanna say Iowa State football was runner up in 2021. Ok TCU was runner up in 2014 and 2015 and 2017.
TCU has the potential to be a consistent force. School is growing rapidly just like the metroplex it’s located in. If TCU can lock down the dfw metroplex for recruits and keep a consistent above average coaching staff they’ll likely never have a repeat of the past 4 years for awhile.
Tcu is a Fort Worth team. Not a dfw. Dfw is an airport. It’s just Fort Worth. Period.
@@VahidMusictxyessssss! One of the announcers on CW broadcast of TCU-SMU said during the game they were “cross town rivalry”. No, we in Fort Worth are not a suburb of Dallas. We are not cross town. We are a separate and huge city 33 miles from each other. So, thanks for posting.
Those BYU, TCU, Utah, Boise St games were pretty good back in the day.
kinda crazy to think the mountain west wasn't bad at all those days. Even Air Force and utah st had a few good years
Our family has had BYU season tickets for decades now and I really miss those BYU, TCU, Utah, Boise St, and even Air Force occasionally games that were always super physical and fun each year
Hopefully BYU will at least be 500 in the BIG 12
TCU would have won the chip in 14 had they been allowed to play in it.
Same in 2010….. that team was absolutely ludicrous.
If 10 TCU isn’t good enough than 95% that make the playoffs today are complete dogsh!t……
- back to back undefeated regular seasons
- back to back #1 defenses in the country
- sub 10 points allowed per game with 4 shutouts
- Top 5 total offense averaging 40+ppg, scoring 60+ twice
- 2 Top 15 wins by 35+
- road top 10 win by 40
- 2nd highest margin of victory per game in the country at 30+.
- 4 Top 25 wins to finish the year.
And that wasn’t good enough….. like wtf
As an OKST fan, I have to agree. The 2014 TCU squad beat the tar out of everyone they played and got screwed by the weird fluke loss to Baylor
Baylor should’ve gotten the chance they beat Tcu
Ohio state would of done the same thing to them as they did to Oregon .
@@ryanf7441 okst fan too
Don’t forget the next rise. Like the roller coaster of life winning and losing seasons will come and go. Each teaching their own lessons in different ways. When I strapped it up for TCU in 1994-95 no matter our wins or losses. It was all winning. The experience of being a Student/Athlete was worth a Million dollars and getting to do it TCU lead by Pat Sullivan was literally Priceless to me. Not to mention graduating with my degree changed my life. So…. Thanks for making the video. You rock man! The next Rise of TCU football is just around the corner…but it’s all wins anyway.
Utah byu boise state and tcu just fun af. Teams to change the sport wish they were all in the same conference.
University of San Francisco Dons have an interesting story. The 1951 team was invited to the Orange Bowl only if their black players wouldn't play. They declined the invitation and the program was disbanded
That team had three future NFL Hall of Famers on it. Ollie Matson,Gino Marchetti and Bob St.Clair.
While my first college football memory was juice Williams vs Ohio St. RGIII at Baylor got me into College Football.
Mine was Michael Crabtree at Texas tech but rg3 put Baylor on the map. They've been pretty good ever since rg3 minus a few god awful seasons here and there
Since Cincinnati is on the rise big time now, playoff appearance and Big 12 member I think doing them next is worth it.
ETA: Cincinnati was a basketball school before Brian Kelly got there.
I don't know about next year but I've had UC season tickets they were only 160 dollars it was awesome
UC lost basically everyone from this years class and their recruiting classes are barely average.. I'm sure they'll be "good" by G5 standards but idk if they will be a national powerhouse.
@@danielmiller9012 now that he's made the playoffs and they are going to a bigger conference, they'll be able to get better recruits.
@@8MoneyIzmyMission8 the best is that If they successfully recruit 50 miles around the school they can be a powerhouse.
@@danielmiller9012 they'll take a step back the year for sure but it's not like they've been recruiting 5 stars in the first place. Luke fickel prved something this year that recruits will notice. He proved you can go to Cincinnati compete for a national championship and go to the NFL. Cincinnati had 9 players drafted this year which was the third most in all of cfb behind only Georgia with 15 and LSU with 10. They had more players drafted than Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Clemson, and most certainly Texas which are all schools full of top highschool recruits
Bound for the playoff!
Great Video!! even Better Topic. As An Alumni And Former Player Myself I Loved The History and Video Quality. I Haven't Ever Watched One Of Your Videos Before But I'm Glad I Ran Across this Video In my Recommended.. keep up the Good Work.
Love the Frogs and Fort Worth!
As a TCU fan, the last 4 years of not being ranked, losing, and no team effort has pained me. I want Patterson back.
I can understand that. He was a big reason TCU is back in a Power Conference
He deserved to leave on his own terms but I’m excited for what’s next
@@Frog_Mixes nah he wouldn't get with NIL and players were transferring out because of it. His archaic style had to change. He hasn't been gone a year and there's already a bigger TCU social media presence than ever. We have to win now.
we havent even seen what its going to be like without him, dont jump to conclusions yet
With all respect, give Sonny a chance. Dykes has changed the player culture at TCU and has earned the teams trust quickly while installing entirely new playbooks on both sides of the ball. GP was an incredible coach for TCU and is the sole reason that we are in a power 5 and I do not want to diminish that, but as of recent the players have seen him as domineering and too traditional in the football sense to compete with the smoke and mirrors teams in the Big12. Also might add, these last 4 seasons have been due to Gary and his refusal to evolve with the game - Sonny hasn’t played a single game with TCU yet.
TCU was, from about 2000-2011, the greatest overachiever in college football. This was largely due to Gary Patterson's leadership. His teams were strong in all phases of the game but particularly shined on defense. What happened the past five years was a gradual decline into mediocrity, leading to Patterson being shown the door. I've tried to pinpoint the reason for all that happened but it is a multi-faceted answer. Whatever, it is a shame because TCU was, during its heyday, a very entertaining team to watch. I doubt that Sonny Dykes can revive the magic.
I would put Utah and Boise State above them due to the extra BCS bowl wins during that time, but there is no denying how much they achieved during that span.
I too am a huge TCU fan, i looked into the last four years... Four years ago the current AD was hired. See the connection?
Patterson wasn’t shown the door, he left
@@nicko5945 2000-2009 Boise State holds the best record for any decade in the sport since 1890-1900 Yale….
gary pattersons defenses were overrated
It’s funny how they went from smash mouth run up the gut with a stout defense to the typical B12 video game offense without skipping a beat (mostly).
Thats because its a bit of a false perception that offense in thr BigXII has been an almost purely pass focused approach. Over the last twenty ish years. If you look at all of the best BigXII teams from Texas in the 2000's, OU in their best seasons, TCU, Ok St, Kansas St when they are good etc... They always have elite running games and usually have an NFL RB (or two) and/or a highly mobile QB. Big XII offenses even when putting up big pass stats, have always relied on a solid running game to ultimately win games.
As a tcu fan I know that we are getting a good recruiting class with lots of 4⭐️ Recruits
Everyone is. This will show whether Dykes can handle raw talent, rather than developing it. It will take some time. It’s a serious rebuild.
West Virginia back in the early 2000s was dominant 💯
I graduated from TCU last December, and watching TCU Football the last four years was extremely painful. I witnessed the Downfall of TCU football as a student firsthand every ... single ... Saturday. Big Sad
Welcome to the big 12
I got one more year left, hopefully we can start to get some hope back in the program soon. Weird that we’re becoming more of a basketball school now
@@zachpeterson1399 Totally, man. When I came to TCU in Fall 2018, Football was so much of a bigger deal than basketball. I did a lot of stuff with TCU Basketball/Frog Army. So, it was a welcome surprise to see TCU Basketball becoming relevant among the student body
Can't believe I'm the first person here to know we went to the national championship in 2022.
I remember being at the semifinal and once we won, me and my grandfather went back to out hotel room and I kept slapping myself because I couldn't believe what had actually just happened.
The answer is right there...TCU had Andy Dalton and Trevon Boykin as QBs. A team will only go as far as their QB play allows it. If you don't have an NFL quality QB you simply will not compete. Simple as that. Patterson struck out on QBs just like Mack Brown did at Texas. Wins the Championship and then fails to replace the QB and gets himself fired. Now it cost Patterson his job.
Yep, as a Texas fan I can see how Texas won or loss based largely on QB. Vince young was the main force to win the Rose bowl and NC championship and arguably Texas could have beat Alabama about 4 years later if Colt McCoy did not get hurt. the Applewhite/ Simms controversy was a major factor in some tough losses for Texas also earlier.
The QB matters but it's not the only thing that matters. Texas tech has Baker Mayfield but he transfers to Oklahoma because tech was ass then they had Patrick mahomes and we're still ass not to mention they had days Webb who is still in the NFL he just doesn't start
System matters too, Garret Gilbert left Texas played great at SMU and is still in the NFL...Let's be honest, Patterson refused to move on from Sonny Cumbie when the system plummeted after Boykin left, it was predicable at best. Same with Texas, they were making horrible hires on the offensive staff and not recruiting for any system just getting whatever players they could.
It matters quite a bit, but then again 2010 TCU had 14 future NFL draft picks and their 2014 team had 12 future NFL draft picks
So it wasn’t just the QBs. Especially for Daltons era, yeah they were stacked on A Top 5 offense, but they also had #1 ranked defenses in the country for back to back seasons.
I mean despite the inconsistency of Dalton, he was still an All Pro QB at Cincinatti. The guy actually won playoff games in the NFL. The guy still plays in the NFL 12 years after he was drafted. Thats more than 95% of QBs that go in into the NFL can say.
And during the Dalton era seeing as they went undefeated two seasons and their only ever loses were to #2 Utah, #3 Boise State and #4 Oklahoma Id say their biggest hinderance to make a national championship is the league screwing them over.
I want to see the University of Minnesota in one of these things. We had success early fell off the map only to become an on again off again threat to some tip level teams.
As a wisconsin grad it’s going to be hard to talk about Minnesota in a positive light. (I’m obviously joking) I have had them on my to do list just haven’t figured out how I want to truly go about it just yet
I was at that TCU, Wisconsin Rose Bowl. Classic.
Dalton rose bowl, I was there
Idk if you did but you should cover prairie view a&m losing streak. Most aren't interested in hbcu football but it's such a crazy story that I think people would like it. It's the longest losing streak in college football, maybe in all sports
TCU certainly is on the rise.
Good video can you do a Mizzou one
It's crazy. I remember Texas, usc, mich, Wisconsin and cal being power houses and bama being pretty much irrelevant. I really got into foot ball around 05ish so you can imagine my reaction when app state beat Michigan. I didn't watch the game. I had to listen on the radio while on the way home from my to mi. That was the down fall of mighigan football in my opinion. They never recovered till last season but we will see if they can keep the momentum
But u started watching in 05 so how do u know Bout a downfall lol. You never watched the rise. So to you theyve been. Below avg.
@@joshallen-kz7vv I said I really got into football in 05. My mom went to Michigan as well as family and friends so I been around Michigan football my whole life
I think it’ll be interesting if you could do a Rise and Fall and Rise again of Baylor football. In some ways it’s like the kindred spirit of TCU.
Die hard Boise state fan here, always had lots of respect for tcu growing up. Both Boise and tcu had some awesome wins against each other and both teams were so good back then. Now we both suck haha. Oh well go Broncos!
It's sad out of BYU, Utah, TCU, and Boise state that Boise is the only one left in the go5. Now you have WVU and Louisville moved up as well as Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston. Maybe with the vet fast growing population of Idaho and Boise specifically they can get some respect
@@wesleyowens4089 Yeah I’ve always been pretty surprised that we haven’t gotten into power 5. If anything we deserved it more 10 years ago when we were really doing well. Now I think we would get smacked. Hopefully we get an invite. I’ve always thought pac12 makes more sense but they don’t want us
@@Mountaindwell4 the PAC 12 is pretty snobby. Boise state would have to improve their academics to be considered
Boise St. beat TCU twice from this era and should’ve beaten them
Three times if we hadn’t missed wide on a FG as time expired. They were our toughest opponent during our 2003-2011 years. Miss them and what they used to be.
I would love to see a video about the BYU/Wyoming rivalry history
So fast, so sudden!
Boise State win over TCU in Fiesta Bowl my favorite win...they were so cocky.
Sort of related but somewhat unrelated: I would like to see somebody do a video on defensive end Tommy Blake from TCU. He was a key part of those defenses during the Patterson heyday. The guy was projected to be a top 10 NFL pick before personal issues got in the way. It's a sad story that I think someone should touch on. It's unfortunate that his story has just kind of gotten swept under the rug.
The 4-2-5 was an innovative defense. Once OC's eventually figured it out, that's when the backsliding began.
4-2-5 is still a great defense as long as you have a strong D-Line, it's just that OU, UT, and A&M, started stealing TCU's D-Line recruits.
Good video could you do a South Carolina video
As a student at TCU, all I feel is pain
you should so North Texas next
Washington Huskies.. you should do video on them
Should do one for Texas Tech
2010 TCU shpuld have played for the Title. That season alone is proof thatbwe need an 8 team playoff. Arguably the best team in the country went undefeated and didn't even get to play for a title.
fr i remember watching the big12 championship praying that texas would lose so we could see tcu in the natty
what happened against boise state haha?
@@michaelhopkins5087 what do you mean?
@Stephen Abootman why not an 8 team playoff. We've already had mutiple seasons where the 5-6 teams are just as good as the 3-4 and sometimes the top 3 are equal bit the 4th isnt quite on that level. So the number 2 gets screwed by havinf a way tougher first game. 8 ensures every worthy team gets in, it ensures all 5 ppwer fives get in, it ensures and undefeated non-power 5 always gets in, and it makes sure that when number 2 is just as good as number 1, they both get a first round matchup advantage.
@Stephen Abootman Yeah except who are you taking as the 4th spot, cuz if it’s not Boise State then you absolutely need an 8 team playoff….
TCU was amazing that season and definitely championship quality, but through 99% of the year they weren’t even the best G5 team.
And in all seriousness besides 19 LSU name a single team that’s made the playoffs to date with a better resume than:
- 35-1 in 3 years; 12-1 conference champions
- 4 Top 25 wins, including a road OOC win over the ACC Champ (vs #8 Utah by 33, at #13 VT by 3, vs #18 Hawaii by 45, at #24 Oregon State by 23).
- ranked #2 in total offense - scored 50+ in 50% of games; averaged 48ppg
- ranked #2 in total defense - shutout 3 teams; allowed 11.3ppg
- outscored 3 teams in the Top 10 for total offense 149-15
- ranked #1 in margin of victory at 36.7 points
- ranked #1 in the country by SP+, SRS and Colley
Unless Cam plays like a god, Auburn would get an annihilated by that team. And Oregon? Bruh the ducks literally got slaughtered by this team in back to back seasons 57-21. Amazing the heights you can reach when you play Portland State instead of Boise State.
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I mean seriously who would you take?
- 12-1 Wisconsin with wins over #5 Ohio State by 23, and #23 Iowa by 1. Lost to #14 Michigan State by 10.
The Ohio State win is good, the Michigan State loss is bad, don’t have as many top 25 wins and then there’s common opponents - yucky:
Vs San Jose State: 41-21
Boise State at San Jose State: 51-0
- 12-1 Ohio State beat #23 Iowa by 3. Lost by 23 to Wisconsin. So not close on top 25 wins, and way worse loss.
- 12-1 Stanford beat #24 Oregon State 38-0. So point on the common opponent head to head for Boise State who only beat them 37-14. But Stanford lost to #2 Oregon by 21. Boise State still has more top 25 wins.
- 12-2 Oklahoma; beat #14 Oklahoma State by 6, beat #16 Florida State by 30, beat #19 Nebraska by 3. So somewhat comparable ranked wins. Lost to #17 Mizzou by 9, lost to #21 Texas A&M by 14.
So they actually played the same number of Top 25 games. Boise State finished with a better record, lower margin of loss, and greater margin of victory.
There’s also common opponents:
Oklahoma vs Utah State 31-27
Boise State vs Utah State 56-12
- 10-2 Arkansas. Beat #9 LSU by 8, #15 Miss State by 7 in 2OT, #21 Texas A&M by 7, #22 South Carolina by 21. Lost to #1 Auburn by 22, and to #10 Alabama by 4.
Harder schedule. But two loses and one bad loss. Similar wins by lower margins of victory.
They haven't fallen. A couple of subpar years but a team light years ahead of the program from the 70s and 80s.
Let’s go TCU!!!!
do one on the fall of UT or the brief rise and fall of Texas Tech
Hey it was like a 10 year rise. But Texas tech hasn't done anything since joining the big 12 kinda like Miami in the acc but at least Miami won a national championship
@@wesleyowens4089 I mean you had the Mike Leach Era where Tech would go 9-3 or 10-2
@@noahtepera9776 plus spike dykes just before that
now there going to the national championship
I honestly didn’t like the TCU change from an option attack to an air raid attack.
Georgia Tech would be a good choice for one of these videos. A storied program with lots of highs and lows
If only TCU didn't have that 2nd half meltdown against Baylor back in 2014, they would've been National Champs. We all witnessed the beatdown they gave Ole Miss in the Sugar Bowl
Gotta love that Southern Miss beat 9th ranked TCU in 2003. Was a great win for the Eagles!
Do WVU
Never heard anybody pronounce horned with two syllables before.
TCU owned The University of Texas Longhorns in the Big 12.
RUN IT BACK!!! BLEED PURPLE!! NO BAN WAGON!!
1-1 with Boise State Broncos.....Do you remember?
God bless
It is weird that the only team who didnt break the rules in those days was texas. Go figure
Whats really wierd is that NIL's have made legal the actions by boosters / sponsors which got SMU the Death Penalty and TCU a stiff NCAA penalty.
Yeah total bs.....
This didn’t age that well
Go frogs, time to rebuild
Kansas State - if you haven’t yet
TCU is in the National Championship. There is no fall
There is a fall now
Raise and fall and rise again of the University of Miami.
it all went downhill when gary patterson said the nword
Please reverse jinx us again!!
Always a Frog !
Remember TCU vs BSU games were always usually really close games. BSU vs TCU. 3 and 2 all time . All thoes games were great games usually three point games . God bless one and all be safe you all.
They lost to Boise in the 2003 FW Bowl*
You should do Auburn next
2009 Fiesta Bowl. BOISE STATE BEAT THEM. Boise States Senior class was 50-3.
TCU should join the big10
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Welp this didn’t age well
Tcu still doing good. Hush your mouth.
Go Frogs
They haven’t even fell off you made this video too early lmao
Nebraska or BYU !.
I kind of did a video like this in Nebraska a few weeks back (th-cam.com/video/sQ_icCAC9f0/w-d-xo.html) but BYU is definitely a team I want to dive deeper on
@@EmbracetheGrind I’ll have to take a look I just recently seen your page .
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TCU leads the series 52-42-7 🤣
Except Boise State haha
You cant dominate a team that is literally the all time best record team in the history of the sport.
But TCU was able to sneak a couple wins on last second FGs. When your biggest downside is inability to make chip shot FGs with a guy whose accuracy is 93% thats a pretty unstoppable position to be in except then it matters and you lose 3 games because of it.
They ain't dominated nothing ou run the big 12
TCU was great at the Mountain West Conference.
Id argue 2005 to 2011 TCU would largely beat Oklahoma outside of the total collapse in 2008 by TCU.
They didn’t dominate BSU
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Dominated Everyone ? Get real. Had 3 seasons since 2012 when you joined the Big 12 that they actually won more than 7 games. Dominated mediocre and losing teams maybe
2010 TCU went on the road against #8 Utah and beat them 47-7…… one of 2 Top 10 wins and one of 4 Top 25 wins.
The only team that would’ve beat them that year was Boise State.
And the fact that neither team made a national title game that season is arguably one of the greatest disgraces and acts of absolute corruption ever seen in the game….
The Big 12 should send TCU back to the Mountain West or even the WAC.. Trade TCU for Boise State.
Remind me again what success Kansas, Texas Tech or Iowa State has had that TCU hasn’t met or surpassed in the last 9 years in the conference?
@@brian2440 Its all about the brand. TCU consistently ranks in lower end of football attendance. One of the smaller fan bases and the smallest enrollment in the whole B12.
Add the fact that TCU has not won anything meaningful within the last 5 years and the case can be made that their Power 5 performance has been less than spectacular.
Yeah let’s send one of the top grossing CF programs in a major market that’s won the peach and rose bowl recently for a juco school. Great logic.
@@talon5368 they just won baseball back to back years lmfao. boise st isnt any bigger of a brand. clown
@@talon5368 Again apply that to Kansas, Iowa State and Texas Tech and tell me why TCU is less deserving than those programs?
And if you wanna say oh but Kansas basketball program? Ok well TCU just won the B12 in baseball this year. And they won it last year. And they’ve made 4 college World Series appearances in the last 7 years. So try again….
If you wanna say Iowa State football was runner up in 2021. Ok TCU was runner up in 2014 and 2015 and 2017.