I’m SELLING My Sony FX30? (Watch this before you buy)
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- Discussing pros and cons of the Sony FX30 after 6 months of use and when I’m going to sell my FX30.
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In this video, I discuss the good and the bad about the Sony FX30 after using it for 6 months as my primary camera for sports videography! We talk the FX30’s great features like built-in LUTs, audio recording with the XLR top handle, and improved rolling shutter and autofocus performance, while also touching on some areas where the camera may be lacking (*cough* low light *cough*). Finally, I finish the video by telling you my plans for the FX30 and when I’m going to sell mine for good.
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0:00 Sony FX30 review after 6 months
1:40 Price comparison
3:43 Built-in LUTs
5:12 My love/hate relationship with the flip out screen
6:40 Audio recording and the XLR top handle
7:42 Lens selection
7:57 Rolling shutter performance
8:26 Autofocus
8:47 Pros and cons of a crop sensor/aps-c camera
9:11 Low light performance (ouch)
12:03 Photography (lol)
13:47 What I’m going to do with my Sony FX30 (TL;DR)
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Dude, the FX6 shoots 4K120. It just has to be in S&Q mode. Meaning you don't get audio. So not sure if you need that. Other than that, griping about the lowlight performance (which you should have known before you purchased it) is an irrelevant con. It's not like they changed the base ISO's after they launched the camera. The camera is sub $2000 US with a super 35mm sensor. Everything you're comparing it to is a full frame. I don't know, I feel that people don't fully understand the camera before they buy it. It sounds like you need to sell your FX30 and your A74 and grab the A7S3 (which literally does everything you're asking of both your current cameras). Just my 2 cents.
Comparing dual base ISO between the FX30 and the A7Siii, FX3 and A7iv is your worst talking point. The A7Siii costs twice as much as the FX30. The FX3 costs more than twice as much. And the A7iv costs over $700 more than the FX30. So, of course those other cameras are going to have better specs. And yes having a second base of ISO 2500 does make the FX30 less sensitive in low light situations. But, is it a bad thing? No. Bring lights. I find it funny when people talk about low light abilities of cameras but seemingly always fail to mention - LIGHTS!
I have the FX30. And myself, along with most every other user of the FX30 that I've met like it as well. I am looking to go to a higher spec cinema camera. But, I will be keeping the FX30. In the right hands, you can achieve a lot with most any camera.
I also have an issue with these "watch before you buy" videos. The thinking behind them is quite presumptuous. You assume that your experience with the product - in this case the FX30 - should have any affect on the decision making of your viewers. I've seen too many users who don't know what they're doing. Simply because you have the camera in your hand doesn't mean you're using it to its best abilities. TH-cam is filled with these "watch before you buy" videos. They are literally meaningless because I have no idea if the content creator actually knows how to use the product to its fullest. Putting "watch before you buy" is the ultimate click bait title. And serves no actual purpose other than click bait.
You aren’t wrong, but at sporting events specifically, you can’t just bring lights to shine on players and properly expose the video. You are forced to work with whatever the environment gives you, which is often indoors or outdoors at night with minimal gym/stadium lighting. That is why a lower base ISO really is that big of a deal in regards to sports videography, which is the purpose of this channel.
*Just got my FX30 a few days ago, I love it as I'm stepping up from the a6400 and I wanted a Video only camera and before the FX30 the A7C was something I was going to get until this was announced. Plus it works with the same lens as my a6400. It's a Complicated Camera for Me as I've never owned a Cinema Camera, but there's no Perfect camera this is a perfect camera for me, but it's always good to get perspective from others whom have used higher priced camera's and give their Pro's and Con's*
That’s a big step up from the a6400 for sure! Hope you have a great time with the FX30 🙌
@@petersarellas Oh I will, I just did a few test videos
Great review - not from a typical TH-cam talking head, but from a professional ! I own three full frame cameras, yet, just got my FX30 and look very much forward learning using it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
Thank you for your comment! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Have fun with your FX30!
i just picked an FX30 new on sale for 1347 dollars, I love it
I'm looking to the fx30 right now & this was super helpful Peter!
Awesome! 🙌
I think mixed with a full frame (a7siii or fx3) This is a perfect sports B cam. Keep the wide lenses on the full frame, and use the crazy crop in 4k120/apsc to make some full frame lenses REALLY long. Got one the other week while shooting some race cars and it turned my 70-200 into a 480mm at the long end, which was actually totally doable handheld with the stabilization
That’s exactly what I do often times too! I’ll keep the A7IV on deck with a wide lens to get into benches and film portions of the event where I’m closer to players like pregame and postgame then use the FX30 with a 70-200 for game action and take advantage of the crop for reach.
I pre ordered the FX30 on release day as well, I shoot mostly automotive work like drag racing and car showcase videos so wee have lots of the same needs and criteria from a camera. I will say that almost every gripe I could have with the low light performance is solved by a combination of switching to S-cinetone if I need to go over 4000-5000 ISO in slog-3 and also using the neat video plugin for noise reduction if I'm shooting in literal darkness and trying to pull a usable image out of it. Fast glass is also the easiest answer like you said. I daily drive the sigma 18-35mm f1,8 which is an amazing lens for this camera and will be picking up the sigma 50-100mm f1.8 as well
Sigma 50-100mm 1.8 isn’t available for e-mount I don’t believe but if you can get away with an adapter that’s certainly a good option. I’ve had my eye on the Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 forever so might have to pull the trigger on that 👀
I really like the idea of swapping to a-cinetone at higher ISOs too! Haven’t done that before but I’ll have to give it a shot
@@petersarellas the noise is much tighter and it’s much more monochromatic so it’s less distracting and easier to clean up. I’ve pulled passable footage from 5000-6400 ISO in S-Cinetone using neat video for noise reduction, you can typically get all the way up to 2000-2500 in S-Cinetone before the noise really even being an issue even though the base ISOs are only 125 and 400.
@@petersarellas the 18-35mm f1.8 isn’t an E mount lens either, just Canon EF and Nikon. Sigma makes a first party adapter that works specifically for their lenses to go from Canon EF to E mount and you retain every bit of performance you’d expect from a first party Sony lens. I shoot wide open at 1.8 on my 18-35 a lot of the time and it nails eye tracking like nobodies business, even in challenging lighting conditions.
Just got an FX30 as my first cinema line camera. First time in a long time going crop versus full frame though so interested in learning everything about this camera and using it to it’s fullest potential
Awesome! It’s definitely a cool camera. I hope you enjoy the process!
In the same boat as you. Def waiting for the next iteration of fx6 or fx3 to come out. Rocking with my a7iv as the daily driver, but man rolling shutter is AWFUL lol
A7iv is a sweet dusky driver but hopefully they drop something soon 🙏
Go for the FX6 Peter 💪🏼 I have the FX6 now for nearly 1,5 years and I love it 😍 best cinematic greetings from germany
Man I’m soooo so tempted
Hey Peter, asked this question under on of your real's but never got an answer, why are you turning the handle of the 70--200 upside down? Whats the benefit of this?
Thanks for the help mate!
As you said, I love my FX30 because it can do so much for less than USD2000. It’s insane. Also, the built in fan is a must as overheating is unacceptable. I’m planning to buy a Tamron 70-180 F2.8 to compensate for the low light situation. 120fps is great for my usage and I’ll be shooting with this camera for a while and I bet the price won’t drop as a used camera years down the line. I love my FX30 💪💪💪💪💪
There is nothing wrong with the FX30 for photography, it works just fine. It is missing a few things like mechanical shutter and burst shooting, but most people doing photographic work don't really need those functions anyway.
I was gonna comment the same thing, i have and unless ur doing specific studio photography work, it works above fine, i mean if your goal is taking photos for lets say a brands social media accounts and stuff like that, its overkill quality, but yeah i dont see it working in studio "e-commerce" pixel by pixel work where you need every single detail because the client will later maybe use those photos to make a big poster or something like that.
I see this camera as a GREAT video camera if you know your work, if your a good editor and if you use it in professional sets that have lighting etc and a pretty decent photography camera if you know yout way around lightroom/photoshop.
Overall for $1799us if your a freelance dp, its outstanding
Can’t shoot with flash
@Chris-ey7zy Don't use it. Last time I used a flash, or seen anyone else use one, was over 30 years ago.
Fantastic video thank you. Question for you if you don’t mind. Do you think the FX30 is a good option for a backup camera. I don’t mean a second B-camera but an actual camera for in case my A7SIII breaks on me during a paid gig shoot. Do you think the FX30 is acceptable to finish up a paid gig in case of an emergency situation. Thank you.
Hey there, yes I definitely think that the FX30 would be acceptable for that use case. I’ll often throw mine into my camera bag for that purpose if I’m going on a one-camera shoot that the A7IV is better served for because I know that both cameras are very capable.
Well you buy it knowing it is a crop sensor. You can not call the low light a drawback. It actually perform better than many older crop sensor camera so I would even call it a pro for what it is.
Oh you’re totally right, I just think that my expectations were set very high with what Sony has been able to do in the past few years
I can live with a crop sensor, and i have been with this camera, but man i would love some good low light HAHA Ive been looking into the sigma 18-35 1.8, but the main compromise is the AF noise. Otherwise im stuck to prime lenses, which isn't the worst thing in there world for me, but i love my zoom LOL But I always buy full frame lenses for it, for the day I upgrade to the fx3
For nearly all of my shooting needs I will still take the tilt up screen ( like my A7iii has) over the flip screen on all the new cameras. I haven't missed not having the flip out screen at all but I do see when it would be advantageous. I think Panasonic make screens that do both.
They both have their pros and cons so glad to see some cameras coming out now with screens that flip and tilt!
Fx6 paired with a7siii what im currently using and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Almost went with the fx3 but saved up another 3k and got the fx6 and have not one regret other then why didn’t I get it sooner.
If it isn’t broke don’t trash it brotha.
4k 120 is an absolute necessity for me and fellow creators. Not trying to sound negative but it sucks when people speak on deleting amazing valued features that actually made me buy this exact camera. When Sony deletes that feature in the future version I’m going to repost this video😂.
What is a good beginner camera that is very cheap, I mean like first time filming because I want to get into sports videography but I’ve never done it, do u have recommendations for a cheap camera that’s good for beginners
For beginners I’ll often recommend looking to get one of the Sony a6000 series cameras like the a6300, a6400 or a6500. They can be had pre-owned from a camera store or used online for fairly cheap and have lots of inexpensive compatible lens options.
People complaining about a high ISO of 2500. You guys crack me up. It's called lighting. ISO 12,800 is nice for extremely low light but, how much of your business as a DP are you shooting in poor or non-existent light? That's not really being a DP, that's largely being a camera pointer or a videographer. Being a cinematographer is 90% lighting. REDs (not every model, but almost all of them), Arris, even the Blackmagics. especially the Ursa 12k are all really bad looking above ISO 800, I've shot with REDs at ISO 1200-1600 and they looked awful. Cinema cameras are made for shooting scenes that are properly lit. Hence why Sony markets the FX30 as a "cinema" camera.
If you only shoot available low light events like weddings, sports like Peter, or available light documentary filmmaking, def buy an FX3, FX6 or any other insane high ISO camera over the FX30. But really, if you are a DP, you should be spending most of your budget on lighting and grip gear and perhaps a gaffer and grips to help you out? The FX30 with good lighting looks incredible. If you are thinking of yourself as a DP, the FX30 is the perfect starter camera for you. Light that sensor and it's going to look amazing. Crank the ISO high to 2500 or higher, not so much. Task and purpose.
did you make this video after the new 3.00 update? because i think that update made the fx30 better no?
I filmed this and edited most of it before the update and then the update dropped and kind of changed stuff. I did say that the camera world moves fast lol
I'm buying it next month for my D cam... I have an A7SIII and two A74's That'll be my setup until I decide I can afford the DJI 4D. The FX6 just isn't enough of a leaped from the FX3 to entice me.... The Mark II might change my mind when that happens. Until that hopefully next year I can afford the 4D.
Dear brother.,
Which lens is good for fx30? Under 50thousand rupees.
Basically know lighting. I have never used auto focus either. Thanks for this video I’m buying a fx30
That’s awesome, enjoy the camera!!
Hi, thanks for a review,but it is somewhat confusing at a times... when you are talking about low light and dual base ISO, 3200 is just 1/3 of a stop more... and there are no cameras except fx3, 6 and a7s3 that go to 12800...
Also about photography, fx6 cannot shoot photos and fx3 and a7s3 are 12 mpix cameras (I guess that is one of the reasons they can shoot 12800 iso).
Also, fx6, although marketed as one isn't a really a cinema camera... They have those... Venice and perhaps now Burano. You can shoot film on it, but you can shoot film on a fx3... it is more of a documentary camera.
And, as someone said earlier... apsc (or s35) sensor is the main sensor that most of the movies were shot on.
I’m in the market for the FX30, I’m ok with it being just for videos and not photos. With it being APS-C I just have to shoot where there’s a lot of light lol
This sounds like the right mindset haha
The FX6 has 4k120. Get it now. Just know that you'll lose that extra reach that you get with the S35 unless you use clear image zoom.
I can’t decide if I wanna get a second a7iv or move up to the FX series for a gimbal cam
Honestly both good options can’t really go wrong with either
Zv-e1
I will buy , what's your best offer price ?
Please how much are you selling the FX30 ?
Which memory card do you use to shoot 4K120?
SanDisk Extreme Pro V90 128GB
On this camera, the dynamic range highlight is not that good. When you're filming the sky, it's completely blown out. You can actually notice that the sky is blown out with no blue definition, but what I mean by roll-off is that it goes between the highlights and back to the exposed footage and doesn't have a nice smooth transition between them. It's as if you're filming really well, and there's not a good transition between the blown-out spots and the sharpness of the blue sky. I noticed this difference when I did outdoor work with this camera on a sunny day and between the blue of the sky and the transformations when filming with this camera.
Gosh I get so torn after purchasing this to read that people like to consider this a good “b cam”
I think that it’s time to for you to make the switch and get that Sony A1 bro
Man I literally can’t decide what to do lol
Pretty sure the FX6 does have 4K 120
Only S&Q, not with audio recording. Pretty sure I forgot to mention that specifically, my bad
@@petersarellas No problem. You just mentioned not getting the FX6 because it lacked 4K 120 and I thought I'd mention that it does have it in case you really wanted to get that camera! But I didn't realize it's S&Q only
I think that the important factor here, which conditions everything, is you shutter speeds. Dont take me wrong, it is not a critizism, its your job. But it is important to consider for ppl thinking about options.
Stop saying APSC/super35 is not as good as Full frame. That's not true. A lot/most award winning movies/commercials have been shot / are still shot on Super 35 sensors. It's a sensor size, not a weakness. You just have to choose what are you willing to compromise on, same as full frame. So no, Full frame is not better, it just have other weaknesses. The end result is what matters, not your sensor size.
I was speaking specifically to what I do regularly when I made that statement as my work often involves dimly lit situations that full frame cameras are generally better equipped to handle, but I completely agree with you that aps-c cameras are great as well and can be more advantageous in some situations.
about to switch my a7iii for an fx 30. do you think the low light may be better on the a7iii or the fx30?
It may be because full frame add in a bit more light naturally than Crop sensor
I got it yesterday, and the low light is simply inadequate. So I am using a7iv.
It’s definitely the biggest sticking point for an otherwise amazing camera
Amazing video! Really helpful info to know. No camera should be sold without a flip out screen or a viewfinder like wtf haha.
Imagine a camera without either of those like how would you even use it?! 😂
Rolling shutter has more to do with resolution than sensor size
for my budget the FX3 was out of range, for the climate of my country (Cyprus) that is over 30 degrees celsius from May to Octomber the A7IV is Useless, my only option is the FX30.
Hmm yeah fair enough. I’ve never had my A7IV overheat but it also doesn’t usually get over 30 degrees in Canada so I hadn’t considered that.
the fx6 has 4k 120 no?
It does, but only in S&Q with no audio, unlike the FX3/FX30/A7Siii that have 4k120 with audio. I clearly forgot to include that detail. Sorry for the confusion!
what the fx6 don't have the 4k 120?
Not with audio recording
If you want a real Sony cinema camera you should buy the venice or the new burano
Nice cameras for sure but sadly a lot of people don’t have that money
true @@petersarellas
I thought that 2500 iso was way too low compared to the others. At least give it 6000 iso. I would have understood.
Yeah I know it’s a crop sensor but it’s still unfortunate that the dual base ISO has to be as low as it is
I have the FX3 and FX30. I use them seamlessly with my work as my A and B cam set up. The FX6 is not a cinema camera because if we will use the industry standard definition of a cinema camera, its the ALEXAs, the REDs, the Venice line and more.
yooo do you have a video for settings for sports video for the fx30?
I do not but I should definitely get on that!
@@petersarellas yes pls, pls do
EDIT: I forgot to specify that the FX6 does have 4K120 in S&Q mode. It doesn’t have 4k120 in regular video mode with audio recording like FX3/FX30/A7Siii. Apologies for any confusion.
Also, a couple of worthwhile updates since this video was recorded:
Update #1: I actually had to send my FX30 in for repair for pink artifacts on the sensor after this video was already recorded. This isn't a regular issue with this camera and could've been caused by any number of things so I didn't feel that info was particularly relevant to the video but I want to make it known for the sake of transparency.
Update #2: This was recorded before the new FX30 and FX3 updates so consider accordingly
Have a great day ✌️
Many Contradictions..
Its not a cinema camera hollywood wont be using a $1500 to film feature films or anybody else come to that, its video camera
It's netflix approved
lol. "cinema camera", "vlogging camera". These terms are all marketing bullshit. "vlogging" really bugs me to be honest.
Dont believe in ehat sony calls cinema and not. They have no idea. I mean a7siii is absolute cinema camera but they don’t call thst anything
The lines are blurred for sure
Nonsense😂
Anyone else like “this guys is an idiot” lol .
Your video gave me a headache. Be more clear and organize in your video.