I owned a Heimdallr on a bracelet, and now own a SM on rubber with a Kanagawa dial. Although the Heimdallr is a lot cheaper I think they are comparable. Pretty sure they come out of the same factory to be honest
Plenty of detailed information provided to us here as always. I don't know how long it takes you to makes these videos but IMHO you have some of the most informational content on YT. Keep up the great work. Cheers!
Yeh i agree on the face of it. I think san martin do price them selves ahead of the competition and try to put in top specs. I think its a real shame with the heimdallr though, they could have done so much more
Thanks for this comparison. There is very little on these watches on TH-cam. £400 for a Seiko Turtle in the UK with hardlex made me look at these and I actually prefer the dial and hands on the Heimdallr to the San Martin and the Seiko, so considering the price, it has to be the Sharkmaster for me!
Unfortunately yes, they will likely bring out an updated and improved version on 2021. They've done that with must of their watches. Expect the new one to be a lot better :) If you don't want to wait, you could get one from Aliexpress
Wicked video, love how in depth you go. I think If the watch was your daily, to put out a bit more for the San Martin, but if it's in a rotation of a couple a week, you could save the money. Love the turtles though, top watches either way
I think the reason to buy the San martin may be the consistency in the ir watches whereas it seems that in the others: steeldive. Heimdallr.. The quality depends on the model you buy.
If the chapter ring was aligned I think I'd go with the Heimdallr, (I rarely use the rotating bezel after initially examining it on receipt of a watch) I think it's the handset and the finer bezel markings. Mind you it's easy to change the bezel insert of the San Martin, but I don't like it's handset. Then there's that dome, always nice to have a dome... Maybe the San Martin with a changed handset and bezel insert.... Excellent video, thanks.
I prefer the San Martin, I think the extra fit and finish on the case (better brushing, beveled case near the crown) is worth it. I own a 1980 6309-7049 and the San Martin is really quite close in design and construction. Considering how much SRPs and 6309s are going for now, I think it's still a very good value.
Zeb Sir Another Great Comparison Review but Firstly both sets of hands are wrong on both models which I find unusual if they are doing a homage,The Sharkey using 6105 Clone hands and an unusual hand set used on the San Martin. Personally I’m not a fan of the San Martin Name as their Logo as it’s too big in my opinion spoiling the Dial Look. Either way I’m going San Martin as my choice👍the White Dial Lume look is more Authentic on the San Martin and it looks much better as far as Quality Control is concerned. Cracking Review as always Sir👏👏👏👍⌚️
Brilliant Neil, yes I agree, i think it was lazy for heimdallr to just clone a 6105 dial and hands and should have gone more turtle or used a diff dial at the very least. Im not a fan of the original SKX hands but heimdallr does have some great hands they could have used
Oh man what a mix. I like the San Martin, but it needs the second hand from the Heimdallr. I suppose for the cost difference you could swap the dial out of the Heimdallr and put some thicker hour and minute hands for less than the cost of the San Martin. Great comparison man! These and steeldive have been pretty impressive lately. Have you checked out the steeldive sub yet? I think it’s the SD1954. I just got one to do some mods on and it’s pretty killer if you disregard the bracelet.
Yeh thats the beauty with the heimdallr, its cheap so plenty of room to mod. No I haven't, it looks like a pagani sub to me with a SD dial? Whats your thoughts on it? Importantly, hows the bezel rotation?
@@TheWatcherReviews it’s a 40mm..and the lume is pretty incredible. The bezel is great and has no back play....but it would probably be considered pretty stiff for most people. It stays put and it’s not an overwhelming amount of effort to use, doesn’t bother me. I’ve got a cool devil diver dial and some even cooler hands that I was gonna put in it instead, but it’s not shabby as is. I might get a sterile SD 1970 for that mod instead...🤷🏼♂️
Great comparison of the two! Personal preference for sure, but if it was me buying one, I would go Heimdallr and put that $60 into another watch. At the price point, it represents too much $ value for me. Have not felt the need for a Willard yet....but never say never 😊
Thanks for the comparison, I would take the HD cuz I'm a cheapskate and for being a tool watch (semi-beater) I can look past the refinements of the SM.
The crazy part is both comes from the same factory. Placed together by the same person. The difference is the price. I have both honestly the heimdallr is a better watch. I have done a comparison in a different RUGGED WAY. I roughly treated both in a non careful way and my heimdallr is still the same with less wear and tear showing and still feels nice and tight with nothing loose. Saying this my heimdallr feels and acts as new while the other has the opposite feeling. Personally I will go with a heimdallr after the same RUGGED and ROUGH TEST I PUT BOTH THROUGH.The heimdallr feels and looks like it would last longer and withhold more beating then the other. I feel the heimdallr is the best Chinese brand out there. Nice review. Thx...
I owned a Heimdallr on a bracelet, and now own a SM on rubber with a Kanagawa dial. Although the Heimdallr is a lot cheaper I think they are comparable. Pretty sure they come out of the same factory to be honest
Plenty of detailed information provided to us here as always. I don't know how long it takes you to makes these videos but IMHO you have some of the most informational content on YT. Keep up the great work. Cheers!
Hi, thank you, appreciate the great feedback. It does take some time tbf but it's definitely worth it to get that info out to people!
Turtle case with a captain Willard dial. I bought the 6105-8000 homage, same as this one but with a diameter of 42mm.
Im suprised there aren't bigger differences considering a 60% price jump. Brilliant head 2 head btw mate
Yeh i agree on the face of it. I think san martin do price them selves ahead of the competition and try to put in top specs. I think its a real shame with the heimdallr though, they could have done so much more
@@TheWatcherReviews Now it is between San Martin & Merkur.
Great review and comparison of both models. Very in depth and spoken in a clear direct professional manner. Well done Sir. Just subscribed
Thank you Lee, glad you enjoyed it 🤝🏼
Thanks for this comparison. There is very little on these watches on TH-cam. £400 for a Seiko Turtle in the UK with hardlex made me look at these and I actually prefer the dial and hands on the Heimdallr to the San Martin and the Seiko, so considering the price, it has to be the Sharkmaster for me!
Well done, detailed review as usual. As buyers, we would never be able to discern the difference between the two without them in hand.
I was looking at the Heimdallr website and it looks like they may have discontinued the 6105 ?
Unfortunately yes, they will likely bring out an updated and improved version on 2021. They've done that with must of their watches. Expect the new one to be a lot better :)
If you don't want to wait, you could get one from Aliexpress
They are back in stock. But I dont see any improvements. The lume pip is still attached and not drilled.
Thank you for your video...how do you compare the heimdallr to the original seiko srp turtle based on dimension? is there any small differences?
Wicked video, love how in depth you go. I think If the watch was your daily, to put out a bit more for the San Martin, but if it's in a rotation of a couple a week, you could save the money. Love the turtles though, top watches either way
Yes you're right, its these things youve got to consider and then weight up value for money
I think the reason to buy the San martin may be the consistency in the ir watches whereas it seems that in the others: steeldive. Heimdallr.. The quality depends on the model you buy.
Agreed
Thanks for the comparison, I'm not sure which one I'd buy.
Really like the San Martin. Tough decision. I think it’s worth the extra money.
It is a tough one, visually the SM looks more appealing and refined but if you can justify the costs then by all means!
@@TheWatcherReviews but I do like the c3 lume better
If the chapter ring was aligned I think I'd go with the Heimdallr, (I rarely use the rotating bezel after initially examining it on receipt of a watch) I think it's the handset and the finer bezel markings. Mind you it's easy to change the bezel insert of the San Martin, but I don't like it's handset. Then there's that dome, always nice to have a dome... Maybe the San Martin with a changed handset and bezel insert.... Excellent video, thanks.
I agree, diff dial and hands on san martin and its a winner
Do you reckon the steel dive version is as good as these two with it been a lot cheaper?
Love the bronze version you're wearing, the strap looks great with it, ali express? They should do a bronze clasp version would look amazing.
You can get gold hardware straps mate, i just didnt have one. Yes they're on aliexpress and i have loads for sale on my ebay
I prefer the San Martin, I think the extra fit and finish on the case (better brushing, beveled case near the crown) is worth it.
I own a 1980 6309-7049 and the San Martin is really quite close in design and construction. Considering how much SRPs and 6309s are going for now, I think it's still a very good value.
Yeh they seem to be going up second hand so the value for money in the SM is incredible
Zeb Sir Another Great Comparison Review but Firstly both sets of hands are wrong on both models which I find unusual if they are doing a homage,The Sharkey using 6105 Clone hands and an unusual hand set used on the San Martin.
Personally I’m not a fan of the San Martin Name as their Logo as it’s too big in my opinion spoiling the Dial Look.
Either way I’m going San Martin as my choice👍the White Dial Lume look is more Authentic on the San Martin and it looks much better as far as Quality Control is concerned.
Cracking Review as always Sir👏👏👏👍⌚️
Brilliant Neil, yes I agree, i think it was lazy for heimdallr to just clone a 6105 dial and hands and should have gone more turtle or used a diff dial at the very least. Im not a fan of the original SKX hands but heimdallr does have some great hands they could have used
I think the alignment and bezel click might differ piece by piece on both models.
I'd buy whichever one is cheaper.
I got a Heimdallr on a steel bracelet. Excellent watch, only the bezel is hard to turn...any suggestions on how to loosen it up?
How long have you had it?
Just keep twisting and turning it to wear it in
@@TheWatcherReviews exactly! Mine was like that for about a week but after turning it constantly it loosen up
Submerge it in hot water (not boiling lol) and turn the bezel a dozen of times. It worked for me.
@@rmartin6914 One month.
Oh man what a mix. I like the San Martin, but it needs the second hand from the Heimdallr. I suppose for the cost difference you could swap the dial out of the Heimdallr and put some thicker hour and minute hands for less than the cost of the San Martin. Great comparison man! These and steeldive have been pretty impressive lately. Have you checked out the steeldive sub yet? I think it’s the SD1954. I just got one to do some mods on and it’s pretty killer if you disregard the bracelet.
Yeh thats the beauty with the heimdallr, its cheap so plenty of room to mod. No I haven't, it looks like a pagani sub to me with a SD dial? Whats your thoughts on it? Importantly, hows the bezel rotation?
@@TheWatcherReviews it’s a 40mm..and the lume is pretty incredible. The bezel is great and has no back play....but it would probably be considered pretty stiff for most people. It stays put and it’s not an overwhelming amount of effort to use, doesn’t bother me. I’ve got a cool devil diver dial and some even cooler hands that I was gonna put in it instead, but it’s not shabby as is. I might get a sterile SD 1970 for that mod instead...🤷🏼♂️
@@dinner_workingsly hmmmm sounds promising
Thanks for the review have my eye on the tuna in black
Great comparison of the two! Personal preference for sure, but if it was me buying one, I would go Heimdallr and put that $60 into another watch. At the price point, it represents too much $ value for me. Have not felt the need for a Willard yet....but never say never 😊
The willard is classical and at stupidly value for money prices i.e steeldive or heimdallr. Its a must have bro !
Thanks for the comparison, I would take the HD cuz I'm a cheapskate and for being a tool watch (semi-beater) I can look past the refinements of the SM.
Yes and thats what it will appeal to. That heimdallr with a dial mod looks pretty good
Rdunae/Retangula 6105-8000 homage!
Disappointing bezels on both! Weird. Seems like they ought to have that shit sorted out.
Nice vid / analysis
I agree, should be getting better
San Martin looks cleaner just dont like the San martin name on it
Have you seen or held the SteeDive Black Tuna homage ?
Yes, there's a review on it on my channel
You could very easily swap the dial out
The crazy part is both comes from the same factory. Placed together by the same person. The difference is the price. I have both honestly the heimdallr is a better watch. I have done a comparison in a different RUGGED WAY. I roughly treated both in a non careful way and my heimdallr is still the same with less wear and tear showing and still feels nice and tight with nothing loose. Saying this my heimdallr feels and acts as new while the other has the opposite feeling. Personally I will go with a heimdallr after the same RUGGED and ROUGH TEST I PUT BOTH THROUGH.The heimdallr feels and looks like it would last longer and withhold more beating then the other. I feel the heimdallr is the best Chinese brand out there. Nice review. Thx...
Heimdallr at the price for me
S M is better than H
Never in my wildest dreams a faken seikon a FEIKO! OMG ooh lala turtle ninja apocalypse willard
may be a good detailed video but I CANNOT HEAR YOU....