The QOL you get from using electrocute is actually not matched. Its like playing a ice damage build with the damage of a lightning build. Thank you for the suggestion
Thank you very much for this video. I am in act 3 now and that annoying blackjaw had killed me countless times with his erratic attacks until I installed electrocute.
I've been running it as one of my links on my Cast on Shock Lightning Conduit setup since they made Considered Casting not apply to triggered spells anymore and it already can't shock and it's pretty insane for bossing. 3-4 shocks on a boss and they are immediately electrocuted. This is the sort of setup that the Thunderstruck notable you pointed out seems to be built towards.
@gabrielsmith3993 Do yourself a favor and eat vanilla ice cream. This is a game and people want to have fun doing what they enjoy. Every knows what Stormweaver is all about. Let him do something a little different if he wants.
I’ve tried the Electrocute Gloves on a Three Dragons build and found that it applied both Freeze and Electrocute simultaneously. I didn’t stick with it at the time since it was a bit redundant on a Lightning Warp build (stuff died way too fast) but now I want to try it on a Spark build!
Super bird's eye view question, but what's the point of an ice sorc at this point in time? Is there even any benefit now that Lightning has a matching freeze-like ailment? I'm still having lots of fun in t15's on my Ice Sorc, and I do love the animations, but every time I step back to analyze how to push the build further, it just feels like it'd be 10x beneficial to go pure lightning
Thank you for the update and consistently solid info! Do you happen to know whether the shaper of storms ascendancy from stormweaver would enable you to shock even with the electrocute gem? Or does the latter cancel out the ascendency?
Thanks for the heads up on the annoint, I'll be speccing one when I get home ASAP. I'm curious, have you ever tested your shock values without the support gem? I read the other comments regarding Kitoko gloves, but I'm having a hard time justifying the gloves versus rare gloves and losing out on 30%+ shocks. But maybe my viewpoint is different as Blood Mage Archmage that can't stack cast speed as effectively as Stormweaver. So the rare gloves would only give me life, like 250-300 mana, and crit dmg? Different story if I wasn't already res capped with Kitoko.
Do you still think it's worth it to anoint lightning rod in the super end game version of the build or do you prefer electrocute overall? I'm personally leaning more towards sticking with the extra damage support gem and killing things faster. Also being able to shock with spark is nice.
Could the Unique gloves like Kitoko's Current work with this strategy? The reduced cast/attack speed kinda blows. But then you could instead use a damage support. My guess is that it's not worth giving up the mods you could get from rare gloves.
Saw your response on another comment: "My current gloves give me 70 resists, 150 life, and 110 mana with no downside. Kitoko's gives you nearly nothing AND reduced cast speed. It's a fine starter glove to get off the ground but you'd ideally always stop using them eventually." So yeah good gloves are just better. Cheers!
@@Aarimous 1 additional damage link is better than -10%cast speed but ok. also it works for ALL the damage not just the one that u linked with it. "no downsides" isnt really true when the downside is one less link on your main skill. also you can corrupt them for only -7%cast speed i belive.
@@lolleonlolable Your not just losing cast speed, your also losing all the es on the gloves for EB, over 100% resistance, 100+ life and mana which directly contributes to archmage damage.
This might be something I use on my lightning arrow build once I have more links. Right now it's kind of a nerf to lightning arrow, at least for bossing. I was already using electrocuting arrow on bosses, but now it will build up more slowly.
I added Electrocute to Lightning rod and Conductivity as a 5L on my LA, so far it's crushing stuff faster than before with better QOL. I am gonna go hard on the electrocute buildup and path to Thunderstruck to see what become of it. Also have to invest hard into lightning pen.
@@panicmonkeyxx6488 Cool, that sounds like what I was going to do when I got more links. I'm just starting maps. Glad to here it works well. I'm loving lightning arrow so far. Did you go crit?
Hey Sub, thanks for all your videos and guides! As you seem to know your way around game development, I'm curious if you've heard about the "latency spike" issue in PoE 1 and now especially PoE 2. There are a lot of people having this problem, we have a thread in the official forums with over 70 pages now, but still no response from GGG at all about this issue. I uploaded a video on my TH-cam account to showcase the issue, it's the same for everyone. Do you have any idea what could cause such an issue? We need some big streamers to talk about it, so it gets more attention. Can't post the link to the thread here, but it's called "Continuous stutter/lag" in the bug report section.
I'm having a really rough time finding reasonable support gems to scale Hexblast without resorting to really obscure or indirect gimmicks; controlled destruction is pretty straightforward, but since it disables crits it throws out basically every other gem I can use to scale chaos out the window it kinda turns into the Only damage scaling support you can use if you go that way. The only reason I'm okay with making that trade is that I'm not ready to convert to crit anyways, but the time will come. Any advice? Only thing that really seems to be on the table is Chaos Mastery, but apart from that, the lack of straightforward more modifiers on chaos supports is really putting a hard ceiling on me right now.
@@Watch_DerekI may have spoke too soon lol. Ignore me, I’m only on cruel and using the Doryani Scale Mail to drop enemy lightning resistance equal to mine. I also have the node that makes it easier to shock/electrocute. I think it’s called Emboldened Avatar. Mitigating my horrible elemental resistances with Sorcery ward.
@@thomaslindsey9615 Yes, they have to balance the game. Idk if you thought I was being a jerk posting a comment like that but it wasn't intentional if it was seen that way lol.
@nekrovx i think we have at least until the end of the holidays to play with that if there will be a nerf to it, they did change electrocute a few times already. I dont think there is anything to nerf here. Also even before the patch i used to shock and electrocute mobs easily with lightning arrow
Honestly I hate the electrocute support gem. Before, it made sense to use a dedicated skill (like Electrocuting Arrow) that would allow lightning damage to electrocute. Now you’re required to use this support gem because it’s just better than manually casting electrocute arrow now.
@@TheD1rtyRider I would disagree about the last link, I am finding I want just a tad more dps in 100% juiced t15. I do feel the nerf a little bit on gloves but still very viable. I have 5500 ES and 4500 mana while using the gloves.
I was using Galvanic Shards and Shockburst rounds and my build got fucked because they added Cannot Shock to Electrocute Support. The character revolves around building up both ailments since monsters become resistant to electrocute/freeze after being inflicted with it, and using Shockburst for massive damage once it has either lightning ailment. I had to slot in the unique gloves that make all lightning damage electrocute to make up for the change, which caused me to have to respec my tree and shore up resistances lost from the gloves. I would be ok with the change if it was mentioned ahead of time, but instead of a straight buff, we also got a surprise nerf.
I looked at why you were banned and it was legit, you were being very inappropriate in chat. In your unban request you didn't even apologize or admit fault. Also I saw this message before you edited it. To address the Kitoko's: My current gloves give me 70 resists, 150 life, and 110 mana with no downside. Kitoko's gives you nearly nothing AND reduced cast speed. It's a fine starter glove to get off the ground but you'd ideally always stop using them eventually.
@@subtractem true. Well, ive said sorry. I don't know what else you want bro. But, I like your content at the end of the day. Was hoping poe 2 could be a reset. But it's all good. Enjoy
For both status effects you need lightning damage for it to happen. The more the better. Shock builds up and when reaching the shocked status a mob takes more damage from all sources depending on the magnitude of the shock / shock effect etc. Electrocute builds up and when reaching "electrocuted" state the mob gets stunned for 5 seconds and does a funny getting zapped "WaWaWaWaWa" animation. If you use the electrocute support gem, the skill you are supporting can no longer shock
@@MrF00tie thanks mate, whats the difference between their build ups? depends on the skill I guess. I've only played monk so far figuring out this electrocute thing really opened up stuff
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The QOL you get from using electrocute is actually not matched. Its like playing a ice damage build with the damage of a lightning build. Thank you for the suggestion
I finally got my new budget mini PC yesterday after being on this crappy laptop for over a year!!! I can finally play PoE again! Am so excited.
Gathering Storm is a Monk skill that creates Shocked Ground, it would shock and electrocute at the same time with Electrocute Support.
Thank you very much for this video. I am in act 3 now and that annoying blackjaw had killed me countless times with his erratic attacks until I installed electrocute.
I've been running it as one of my links on my Cast on Shock Lightning Conduit setup since they made Considered Casting not apply to triggered spells anymore and it already can't shock and it's pretty insane for bossing. 3-4 shocks on a boss and they are immediately electrocuted. This is the sort of setup that the Thunderstruck notable you pointed out seems to be built towards.
Gonna slot this on my monk's charged staff.
This is the way
Let me get that build link... DAYYYYYYUM
Build guide was a couple days ago. I'll update the maxroll planner later today for the changes here.
@@subtractem yes please do
Do yourself a favour and just go stormweaver.
@gabrielsmith3993 Do yourself a favor and eat vanilla ice cream. This is a game and people want to have fun doing what they enjoy. Every knows what Stormweaver is all about. Let him do something a little different if he wants.
Cool beans. I just adapted this for my LA Deadeye and it slaps! TY!
I’ve tried the Electrocute Gloves on a Three Dragons build and found that it applied both Freeze and Electrocute simultaneously. I didn’t stick with it at the time since it was a bit redundant on a Lightning Warp build (stuff died way too fast) but now I want to try it on a Spark build!
I'm using my spark to shock everything and clear rooms, and my arc to electrocute everything and destroy single targets.
Super bird's eye view question, but what's the point of an ice sorc at this point in time? Is there even any benefit now that Lightning has a matching freeze-like ailment? I'm still having lots of fun in t15's on my Ice Sorc, and I do love the animations, but every time I step back to analyze how to push the build further, it just feels like it'd be 10x beneficial to go pure lightning
Main benefit is access to chill, frost wall, and comet I'd say. Freeze and electrocute are very similar but the spells couldn't be more different.
But you can't shock
Do you have any sort of guide for this build? I am doing a spark build currently and I am needing some help really getting it online
I do
Thank you for the update and consistently solid info! Do you happen to know whether the shaper of storms ascendancy from stormweaver would enable you to shock even with the electrocute gem? Or does the latter cancel out the ascendency?
No it just enabled non lightning damage to shock
Thanks for the heads up on the annoint, I'll be speccing one when I get home ASAP. I'm curious, have you ever tested your shock values without the support gem? I read the other comments regarding Kitoko gloves, but I'm having a hard time justifying the gloves versus rare gloves and losing out on 30%+ shocks. But maybe my viewpoint is different as Blood Mage Archmage that can't stack cast speed as effectively as Stormweaver. So the rare gloves would only give me life, like 250-300 mana, and crit dmg? Different story if I wasn't already res capped with Kitoko.
What do you mean when you say suffering etc? I see the tags under the nodes but don’t understand what they mean
Can you list the gems you're using for spark and orb of storms? How are you applying shock and exposure? Thanks!
Can warrior use this gem to fill the screen with sparks?
Do you still think it's worth it to anoint lightning rod in the super end game version of the build or do you prefer electrocute overall? I'm personally leaning more towards sticking with the extra damage support gem and killing things faster. Also being able to shock with spark is nice.
33% more damage is insane, if i were rich id 100% take that instead.
what is that cold skill around you?
Could the Unique gloves like Kitoko's Current work with this strategy? The reduced cast/attack speed kinda blows. But then you could instead use a damage support. My guess is that it's not worth giving up the mods you could get from rare gloves.
Saw your response on another comment:
"My current gloves give me 70 resists, 150 life, and 110 mana with no downside.
Kitoko's gives you nearly nothing AND reduced cast speed. It's a fine starter glove to get off the ground but you'd ideally always stop using them eventually."
So yeah good gloves are just better. Cheers!
@@Aarimous 1 additional damage link is better than -10%cast speed but ok. also it works for ALL the damage not just the one that u linked with it. "no downsides" isnt really true when the downside is one less link on your main skill. also you can corrupt them for only -7%cast speed i belive.
@@lolleonlolable Your not just losing cast speed, your also losing all the es on the gloves for EB, over 100% resistance, 100+ life and mana which directly contributes to archmage damage.
@@lolleonlolable You're losing on int and mana which give massive dps increase to your total dmg, as well as losing on resistance the gloves provide.
@@flare7202 so ? 100 mana is nowhere near to an addiditonal link.
This might be something I use on my lightning arrow build once I have more links. Right now it's kind of a nerf to lightning arrow, at least for bossing. I was already using electrocuting arrow on bosses, but now it will build up more slowly.
I added Electrocute to Lightning rod and Conductivity as a 5L on my LA, so far it's crushing stuff faster than before with better QOL. I am gonna go hard on the electrocute buildup and path to Thunderstruck to see what become of it. Also have to invest hard into lightning pen.
@@panicmonkeyxx6488 Cool, that sounds like what I was going to do when I got more links. I'm just starting maps. Glad to here it works well. I'm loving lightning arrow so far. Did you go crit?
Hey Sub, thanks for all your videos and guides!
As you seem to know your way around game development, I'm curious if you've heard about the "latency spike" issue in PoE 1 and now especially PoE 2.
There are a lot of people having this problem, we have a thread in the official forums with over 70 pages now, but still no response from GGG at all about this issue. I uploaded a video on my TH-cam account to showcase the issue, it's the same for everyone.
Do you have any idea what could cause such an issue? We need some big streamers to talk about it, so it gets more attention.
Can't post the link to the thread here, but it's called "Continuous stutter/lag" in the bug report section.
I'm having a really rough time finding reasonable support gems to scale Hexblast without resorting to really obscure or indirect gimmicks; controlled destruction is pretty straightforward, but since it disables crits it throws out basically every other gem I can use to scale chaos out the window it kinda turns into the Only damage scaling support you can use if you go that way. The only reason I'm okay with making that trade is that I'm not ready to convert to crit anyways, but the time will come. Any advice? Only thing that really seems to be on the table is Chaos Mastery, but apart from that, the lack of straightforward more modifiers on chaos supports is really putting a hard ceiling on me right now.
i love how toptier poe2 builds change the experience back to poe1
and get nerfed to oblivion.
build?
is 2k hp enough for t15? did you need chaos res?
MoM dude
hes using Mind Over Matter, it means you take damage from mana before your hp
@@EskyIsAlive thanks
My voltaic grenade spam is going hard rn
Really? I must need to change my supports or tree because my Voltaic Grenade + Shockburst Bolts build has slowed way down
@@Watch_DerekI may have spoke too soon lol. Ignore me, I’m only on cruel and using the Doryani Scale Mail to drop enemy lightning resistance equal to mine. I also have the node that makes it easier to shock/electrocute. I think it’s called Emboldened Avatar. Mitigating my horrible elemental resistances with Sorcery ward.
i'm using kitoko, so thunderstruck is a godsent for me
Big fan of the qol it now provides
electrocute is massive.
Playing electrocute on Invoker . Tempest Flurry with electrocute + Combat Frenzy + Resonance = Constant power charges. The CC is Awesome too.
Awesome tech!
GGG: Welp looks like we have to nerf another thing.
Oh no they're balancing the game! How dare they!
@@thomaslindsey9615 Yes, they have to balance the game. Idk if you thought I was being a jerk posting a comment like that but it wasn't intentional if it was seen that way lol.
@nekrovx i think we have at least until the end of the holidays to play with that if there will be a nerf to it, they did change electrocute a few times already. I dont think there is anything to nerf here.
Also even before the patch i used to shock and electrocute mobs easily with lightning arrow
Honestly I hate the electrocute support gem. Before, it made sense to use a dedicated skill (like Electrocuting Arrow) that would allow lightning damage to electrocute. Now you’re required to use this support gem because it’s just better than manually casting electrocute arrow now.
Just use kitokas gloves instead of the gem feels much better
How would 3 lizard helmet work with it?
The gloves still feel like they electricute within 2-3 hits so i don't see how giving up the gem slot makes sense over a 5 ex glove
Yea I’m torn. You do lose a lot of stats by using the gloves though, and spark doesn’t really need the last link for damage.
@@TheD1rtyRider I would disagree about the last link, I am finding I want just a tad more dps in 100% juiced t15. I do feel the nerf a little bit on gloves but still very viable. I have 5500 ES and 4500 mana while using the gloves.
I was using Galvanic Shards and Shockburst rounds and my build got fucked because they added Cannot Shock to Electrocute Support. The character revolves around building up both ailments since monsters become resistant to electrocute/freeze after being inflicted with it, and using Shockburst for massive damage once it has either lightning ailment. I had to slot in the unique gloves that make all lightning damage electrocute to make up for the change, which caused me to have to respec my tree and shore up resistances lost from the gloves. I would be ok with the change if it was mentioned ahead of time, but instead of a straight buff, we also got a surprise nerf.
Nothing cute about this😂
just put on the gloves u dont need anyhting on the tree and u dont need any gem.
The gloves are decent starters but they kinda suck. I stongly recommend dropping them asap if possible
@@subtractem i dont think so, as spark ci at least.
@@subtractem I don't see how giving up a gem link for better gloves makes sense.
I just use katakos...am i still banned?
I looked at why you were banned and it was legit, you were being very inappropriate in chat. In your unban request you didn't even apologize or admit fault.
Also I saw this message before you edited it. To address the Kitoko's:
My current gloves give me 70 resists, 150 life, and 110 mana with no downside.
Kitoko's gives you nearly nothing AND reduced cast speed. It's a fine starter glove to get off the ground but you'd ideally always stop using them eventually.
@@subtractem true. Well, ive said sorry. I don't know what else you want bro. But, I like your content at the end of the day. Was hoping poe 2 could be a reset. But it's all good. Enjoy
Nice!
Yea, let's buff the shit out of already broken busted mess of a build and nerf whatever Jungroan is playing. This "balancing" cringe is so bad...
what is the difference between shock and electrocute?
For both status effects you need lightning damage for it to happen. The more the better.
Shock builds up and when reaching the shocked status a mob takes more damage from all sources depending on the magnitude of the shock / shock effect etc.
Electrocute builds up and when reaching "electrocuted" state the mob gets stunned for 5 seconds and does a funny getting zapped "WaWaWaWaWa" animation.
If you use the electrocute support gem, the skill you are supporting can no longer shock
@@MrF00tie thanks mate, whats the difference between their build ups? depends on the skill I guess. I've only played monk so far figuring out this electrocute thing really opened up stuff