Why YOU SUCK at SUPPORT (And How To Fix It) - League of Legends
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
0:38 - RANK UP FAST!
1:12 - The Level 2 Spike
2:44 - Focusing the ADC
4:33 - Rebounding Waves
6:07 - The Rebound Gank
6:49 - The Push Direction
8:15 - The 3 Wave Control Tactics
9:34 - Rebound Roam Timer
11:04 - The Right Mindset
11:54 - When Your ADC Doesn't Need You
12:28 - Death Roam Timer
13:13 - Desync Roam Timer
14:24 - How to Counter
15:09 - The Mid to Late Game
15:20 - Ideal Macro
15:58 - Vision Lines
16:35 - The Mid Push
17:34 - Hover Bait
17:59 - Teamfighting
19:03 - Support 1v1?!
20:22 - Outro
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This is an unbelievably good bot lane guide, not just for supports, but for ADC. 100 out of 10. If I can offer one minor critique, I'd love a mention of not simply executing the cannon minion BECAUSE YOU CAN, which pushes the lane, when you have the advantage in a lane freeze situation. But geez, I really wish every support AND adc would watch this, the lessons in here are phenomenal, and the reason why I keep paying to use skillcapped. Iron to gold in 2 seasons, no shit.
Generally, me as an ADC so often just SUFFERS under a Support killing Minions at half life, especially when I wanted to build up a slow push into hard push setup and immediately there are 2 Melee and the Cannon Minion gone (not speaking about the ones that literally kill your freeze for no reason at all).
Bro is giving tips and he’s gold 😂
@@Ccody1996 Just because he's in gold doesn't mean he doesn't have valid advice to share. Do you think he's wrong?
@@Darion350yea breaking a freeze by executing a cannon is definitely wrong buddy
@@Ccody1996 You must be Iron in reading comprehension. He didn't say to execute cannons. He said not to do it in certain situations.
I feel so proud of myself that I've discovered these concepts and techniques naturally as I learned the game. To watch an in-depth guide really polishes my game knowledge
Just remember you're not a babysitter. Your adc will cry some games just ignore it. Sometimes lane is just lost and you will want to rotate mid or top. You are the reason your team will win not your teamates. This is not true but you should act like it is
I love a good “this is not true but act as though it is” moment. People cling so dearly to ultimate “truths” about solo queue and the truth is that it’s just a crapshoot where you play your best and stay cool and sometimes you lose anyway and that’s gotta be okay
Yeah the thing about swaping with mid to take turret is nice until ur midlaner starts pinging u and fuming on chat taking ur cs aswell
That just means you’re too low in elo for them to understand. Just get better at the game and eventually you’ll reach a high enough elo where the midlaner will know what you’re doing and respond accordingly.
my support : "my ADC s*ck !!!"
Me : *punishing the triangle mistake but have been to greedy and try to take a second plate to have his item*
him : *moving backward, never trading his own health, helping jungler too much, no warding, bad roaming.*
Now, i can send him this video, thank skill capped!
Thank you for giving us supports some solid love!
As an honest feedback, sometimes it gets confusing. For example, i hear "if you AD dies 2x1 because you roamed, he would not be able to carry anyway", but then when it is 2x1 against their AD, i hear "thats an easy dive".
So I roam, my AD gets dove 2x1, I blane the AD with the argument "you would never be able to carry anyway" since now he just died abd lost a ton of XP and plates
different situations. if your ad dies 2v1 because you roamed on the rebound timer, then chances are they wouldnt be able to carry anyway because their positioning is horrible. if its 2v1 against their ad its an easy dive if the support is roaming on a bad timer. if the enemy support is roaming on the rebound timer, you with your adc can look to try and catch the enemy ad off guard and be the reason why their ad died 2v1 when the support was roaming on the rebound timer. and in scenarios where enemy support roamed on a good timer and the adc still inted and got caught, thats absolutely the adcs fault there, and a lot of people make these mistakes. so when that bad adc is on your team, look to help your other team, and when its on the enemy team, look to take advantage of the enemy adcs mistakes and punish them
thank you so much i needed this
As a support who is in iron and bronze this guide is great but I can't tell you how many times I go to set up the lvl 2 and my adc doesn't hit the right minons to spike and I die for it. Just rember leaning involves the adc and if they don't know what to do you get stuck under your tower constantly pushed in with them.
Auto the first wave for them to get a push lead, but save your relic charges for the 3 melees on the 2nd wave. You can spike lvl 2 for your adc if you know what you're doing.
if you are bronze you should focuse more on positioning and how to use abilitys
Please do not even mention another player except yourself when you say that you are bronze / silver. Look in the mirror , fix yourself and your own gameplay and you will climb.
Really useful video! Thx!
Thanks for the high quality editing. Have you ever discussed whether to display champion names above health bars? I would personally find it useful.
finally xD i've been waiting forever for the support guide
This guide is telling all enchanter players to stop playing 1000ft behind the AD
Generally speaking, they shouldn't be behind the ADC. You can't trade and harass so far back. You do need to mindful of your positioning, especially with engage/pull supports and keep track when they use their engage abilities and punish them after with your range.
Everything here is right, but that doesn't work in actual gameplay in low elo most of the time. Trying for the push advantage at level 1 as a support? Watch your ADC flame you for "touching the wave" and then troll you. Seen it happen way too often. This goes for trying to setup rebounds and good backs. Literally have had ADC's leave the game and claim 9x report me for even hitting a minion once. This was even with the support item that grants them the gold when I kill it. That is how bad low elo players are. I am serious when I say 7 out of 10 ADC players plat and below still do not know how the support item works in the game at all.
If you do the recall trick for a bounce back and have to trust your ADC that decides to stay in the lane to not die... good luck with that. I get so many ADC's that won't let it bounce back and over extend 1v2 after I leave lane. They die, flame me, and then troll me the rest of the game.
Roam timers to mid or other lanes in low elo don't always work out well either. Again, the solo laner gets mad that you are "stealing" their exps by being there when you show up even if you setup a fat kill for them on the gank.
The problem with support is that the rest of the player base that doesn't play support think the role is just subpar and the odd one out. Especially in lower elos. Most mid laners for example would still look up guides on jungle and top to see how they play there. Just incase they get off-roled into those positions and to help them in mid understand the "stronger" positions from both teams. They won't do that for support game play. A lot of mid's in low elo get massively upset the moment they see their support coming to their lane.
Get a duo
Thank you so much!!!
I won 5 Games in a row immediately after watching, this is insane.
I fkn Love you❤
I’m going to link this to my support at the start of every match.
Ive literally played support twice this season. 1 game as lux in qp i lost and 1 game as thresh in ranked. Went 15/8/24 and stole a drake.
Had myself a few giggles at “go ahead and punish that ADC!” … Pyke and Samira 😂
Is the MID lane version of this course back on the skill capped yet? Haven't seen it in a week or so now.
Yes, it is. It's 4 chapters and starts with this one: www.skill-capped.com/lol/browse/course/j5xhtvpqv5/mkrt070gm0
@@skillcapped I've seen what you all did. I found the second chapter after going through chapter 1. So for this particular course its been divided into chapters instead of having it all into one course like the adc one. thank you for letting me know how many chapters to look for and the speedy link.
how i wish there is skillcapped courses for wildrift, its basically the same game but i think having courses for wildrift players will esucate them and make them better players
Thx - hope this helps lol
Dang I consumed so much from your website that nothing here was new :D
But guess what, 80% of my league playtime I was hardstuck platin and after watching all your stuff I'm finally Dia.
Only attacking the jungle camp twice while leashing is a lot better than staying for long, but the best is to not leash at all. Wish you started hammering that into your videos, because way too many mid elo players leashing on auto-pilot.
Fixed min 1:25: "You really don't wanna be leashing, since junglers don't require leashs anymore to clear befor 3:30. And you really don't want to give away your lane pressure"
Followed this guid I was gold 1 and now I’m gold 4 !!! 🥰
I've been playing a lot of pyke support. If the enemy has a lot of tanks on their team I will definitely die so my adc can get a kill. However, I will not die for my ADC if the enemy has a lot of squishy champs because I get too much of a benefit from a level advantage versus squishies.
no metter how good you are as a sup when you have an autofill adc + jungle + mid you can not carry... im gold and 90 % i have troller in ma team im talking a real troller with wrong items + 0/5 mid in 5 min in the end we all know the match making is the one who plays the game and effect it .. we win or lose in champ select .... yesterday i had a game i picked thresh with ignite clearence and i was walking like a ward in the jungle gess what ..we won i hope that was helpfull
I'm still missing the part of what actually there is to do when riot intentionally gives you 30 matches in a row with 0/50 teammates?
Too bad my adc is always autofilled and so is my jungler
how u know?
@@damian221122opgg
@@damian221122 because they are literal trash
Love how when I started adc supports were priority and needed, now as a support, adc is needed 😅
@@frostyglock317 facts
I had a yuumi main complain he doesn't belong in silver and it's because of his teammates, he proceeded to die 8 times in laning phase
I'm a yummi main, I'd you die more than 2x the entire game you are trolling.
What if i play millio?
This is useful for adcs too so they know how a good support should play so they play aroudn that or even direct their support if theyre not using their head to nudge them i nthe right direction
Me and my friends have the “Leona Rule” if the enemy supp is a tank u only attack the adc in an engage or if u can poke the adc.
finally
just watched the whole thing, went into que and got jungle filled kekw
I go crazy if I play with a non-damage support
When I roam, my ADC just dies no matter the lane's state. Then he will proceed to blame me for leaving him XD
"Always look to trade your health with the enemy ADC"
There are exceptions to every rule if the enemy Support is Soraka DO! NOT! DO! THIS! The number of times I see bot lanes lose either because they go after my ADC when I play Soraka or they try to focus the enemy ADC while Soraka just free heals all the damage is depressing.
I get why you wouldn't/couldn't include it in the video, but I can already see some clueless wanna be challenger adc getting pissed at me for not blindly trading with an adc while raka spam heals them.
Exceptions to the rule!
How much of this changes if you only play yuumi?
I can gladly leave my mates alone for a short period of time. Sometimes they even get a double kill when I'm not there.
19:24 that's why Nautilus needs to be fixed.
His Q is supposed to be like that. It has a ridiculously wide hit-box. This is countered by him being drug towards his victim, so it's a tradeoff compared to Blitz's hook. Easier to hit but not as game-changing since it pulls you towards the enemy and the hook doesn't go through terrain.
@@Darion350 Yeah I know, but having such a big hitbox compared to the size of the anchor model is infuriating. You can even see Lux getting hooked but Naut stops mid air and hits the wall. The hitbox is more like 'T' shaped than a straight line. And neither the model nor the cast line shows that.
@@briancitob It would be represented better if the anchor was sideways when thrown instead of vertical. It used to spin when thrown, which made more sense visually, but they changed it.
10:01 lmao your adc never plays safe in 1v2
Yeah these are good tips but still doesnt work much if your adc doesnt make the lane rebound or he doesnt push, your jungler is afk farming, your mid is 1/6 min 10 and your top is being ganked by 10 man because is the only one doing something so yeah, this tips are great but only works with a functional team and low elo doesnt have too many functional teams
If only ADC players were mentally stable this would be 100% WR lol (masters 200 lp peak supp main)
You're not playing Tank Twisted Fate - mover, stunning quaker & money maker!
league is the type of game where not the best decides the win, but the worst player in the team.
Compared to the supports I play with, this is challenger level advice.
trying to get to diamond and I already know all this q w q.... I think I can get it...
i disagree on a singular point that when you say the leash should be short, when i think as a high elo jungler that you shouldnt leash at all. season 14 very few champions actually need a leash and if the champion doesnt need a leash then you shouldnt leash them because it gives the enemy team knowledge on which direction your jungler is pathing. obviously a lot of low-mid elo players wont even acknowledge these things but unless you have a sylas jungle, you should just not leash at all. maybe you should if your jungler is delusional and is going to ragequit the game if he doesnt get a leash, but thats about the only situations
this is of course just my personal opinion but i think leashing is just unnecessary and gives the enemy team information for most scenarios
I feel attacked. However, I will watch this video.
Really nice guide but I think my supports will take the last tip wromg and just commit suicide tying to 1v1 a solo laner
unfortunately people sucking at support is not just a low elo thing
thats great but how do i roam as yumi?
Saw the title and wanted to add, the reason I suck at support is because I don't play support ✌
I hope everyone watches this ❤
many good tipps and hits are missing, but its okay, you could explain some things much easier ... think about that noobies dont understand anything ;) !
yeah tell them why! got sick of them
Lmao of course your examples are used with the current broken adc’s vs bad ones
pick reactive champ and stay bronze
I hate the fact that I get an S/S+ but we lose and I lose 35lp. But I win a game but get a A and only gain 19lp.
This is because your MMR for your rank isn't good. If your MMR is low, you gain less and lose more. The opposite is true if your MMR is high.
@sophistacate7612 how does that make sense though if I get an A or S every game? Is it because I'm playing support and they don't give as much stock to that role?
reason #1 blind picking enchanter supp cuz its girly