None of the characters in that show actually work. It’s all gossip, connections and negotiation. Nobody sits down with a computer for a few hours and works, nobody actually works in an office, nobody visits their facilities and parks, or speaks wth their workers directly except in crisis situations where they still decide whatever they want. Nobody except Tom.
At a high enough level, connection and negotiation IS the work. Gerry, Karl and so on work at the office. Shiv did in politics, Kendall did "in Shanghai" and even Roman was sent to LA to manage the studios. I don't think Conor ever worked, though.
Connections and negotiation is the highest leverage work there is. This is the same thing carpenters (the dumb ones anyway) say about accountants. “They’re just looking at a screen while we work.”
Imagine you work for a big event management business. There would be a guy (let's call him top) who have contacts/ connections with big celebrities and do the main negotiation. There are other guys (bottom) who do all the physical work or it's management. The bottom guy wouldn't have a job without the top guy, but the bottom guys could be easily be replaced with anybody. And if the top guy is so good in negotiation he could get the contracts at least cost or great discounts which make a huge impact on companies profit.
Kendall was right about his father being a malignant presence. He was also right about being a decaying empire within a decaying empire. The problem was that he and his siblings were just as bad as their father. The Roy family is just like the Bluth family from Arrested Development.
Ken and Shiv are the kind of narcissists that can't help but bask in the glow when they're on top, which fucks them every single time. Kendall is obvious, turning into basically a different person whenever he feels he's winning. Shiv always believes it was some genius move that earned her a place at the top and she's untouchable now that she has an ounce of power, even when that power is very obviously a trick or not secure yet, because she believes she is the obvious choice and everyone else is just blind. Roman can't handle being at the top either but self-sabotages because of his feelings of inadequacy, not superiority. He's also a narcissist because he only thinks of himself and cares about his own feelings, but he doesn't believe he is actually better than everyone else. He is only superior to his siblings by way of being directly inferior to his dad.
As a bunch of narcissists, the Roy siblings can’t learn nor be self-aware. Kendall keeps trying to become CEO, but never thinks about the fact that he’s an unreliable, weak, drug addict who publicly embarrassed his family and corporations several times in the past. And I’m not going to waste time talking about the other idiotic siblings. It’s amazing that NONE among them ever suggested that each should be CEO on a rotation basis. Ken would be CEO for a year, then be followed by Roman and then Shiv. They are always trying to push one another, and hoping that the other two siblings will accept, which inevitably leads them to betray each other.
Well rotation is obviously a No Go, the siblings know that the one first in rotation will never let go (mind you that the board will not accept a formal rotation, so the siblings will have to count on each other words, which is a big no-no in Succession universe. The fact that all the main characters have no Integrity and therefore their word can not be counted upon is another big reason why they are all terrible at business. If you can not be trusted have very little room to maneuver)
The lack of self awareness is truly epic. Shiv really believed she was going to be made CEO, even though she had zero experience working in the company.
@@marketing_monsterShiv threw it away the second she started trying to steer Mattson. He was happy with the public benefits of continuity but wasn't up for more Game of Thrones nonsense. Logan wouldn't have tolerated that either.
none of them suggested the ceo rotation because that's a stupid idea😭 this isn't tag in grade school. this would diminish every last bit of confidence stakeholders had in RoyCo after Logan's death. their stocks would plummet
That's why I loved the season 4 episode at the Mattson Scandinavian retreat and the three siblings talk in the woods basically about the fact that none of them knows anything or how to actually do anything
Succession is the sort of show you watch and then just keep thinking about... and then have to rewatch in its entirety like a few months later. At least is was for me! Awesome video about it!
@@marketing_monster May I ask, have you ever trained somehow your cognitive functions? I mean, I was always struggling with understanding deeply people's behaviour and navigating myself between them. Maybe I'm a narcissist as in your video, Roy's are, idk. But I wanted to ask, do you feel like it is sth you're good at from birth or you've have studied for eg. psychology?
I view Logan, Lukas and Josh (Aaronson) as sophisticated negotiators and they are strong at probabilistic decision making. They are good at business because business at a multibillion market cap firm is about the very big decisions, not the operational details (Karl, Frank, Gerri and the staff)
Very good analysis throughout - Kendall versus the siblings, Kendall failed pitch to Tom, and finally the cold confrontation between the heavyweights, Logan and Matsson. Great content! I’m subscribing now and I’ll be checking back to see the number of likes in this comment as this channel grows in coming months! 👌
Succession was written by artists not the founders of multi-billion-dollar companies. The human elements are fantastic in Succession. It misses a beat when the scenes switch to business or politics.
I'd say that missing the beat with business and politics was consciously built in the story - they're supposed to not understand the wider repercussions of their business or political decisions because they're too self-involved to assume they could be wrong and actually ask for advice. Even Logan is guilty of it because, after years of being hands-on when he was building his fortune, he's now risen too high and got too secure in his position to see that the times are changing. So, as an aside (something that became clear on second watching of the series): Kendall is actually probably right in the beginning when he tells him they need to diversify and not focus on TV as much. That's the tragedy of Kendall, in a way - he actually did spend many years working for the company, he does have experience and his own ideas that could work. But because Logan wants him to be a leader yet at the same time never gives him the chance to actually lead (because Logan always needs to be in charge), Ken feels like he's got no choice but to try and emulate his father's style of bullying everyone and talk hard - something that works for Logan who's got years of being on top to back up his bravado, but could never work for Ken, because everyone sees him as daddy's little boy. So the more he leans into it, the more ridiculous he appears - but at the same time he's never in a position where he's allowed to NOT lean into it and try to be his own person (at least not until it's too late and he's too set in this way to change it)
@@AW-uv3cb You're right, but I don't think it was 100% a conscious decision. I think part of the issue is that Jeremy Strong and Jesse Armstrong are both British, so their interpretation of American business and especially American politics doesn't always quite feel authentic.
I think he’s supposed to be like Elon. Hes totally smoke and mirrors and Ebba has created an image that he’s s tech visionary and a genius. But he’s not nearly as intelligent as he’s presented
@@awill3454 Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman Fried would be more apt. Regardless of how much of a doofus you think Elon is at least Paypal and Tesla are real companies while Mattson's business is pure fraud as he forged the user data.
Not "pure fraud"; if I remember correctly only their Indian data was incorrect. Presumably Gojo is a Netflix-style app that lots of people use. I don't think the data is supposed to be "forged", but rather a mistake that they never admitted to. If the data was forged, Shiv would not advise him to release the corrected numbers - it would kill the whole company and potentially send Matsson to jail.
I mean it is a dramatization of business so obviously it is going to be outlandish but it also touches on a real thing that isn’t uncommon the further up in businesses you go
Great analysis, went more depth than I imagined, and I actually learned something from it. Definitely know you’re going to make it big, fire content, can’t wait for more, subscribed
When their stock price dropped, none of them even mentioned doing a stock buyback. They had a ton of cash to do it, but they were too focused on acquiring new companies. That's the first thing I would do to increase share price, and I'm an idiot lol
739 let's go! I'd had that another reason that everyone in succession suck at business is that they all have no integrity, their word have no value. Therefore their ability to partner up and retain allies is very limited. There is simply no room for handshake agreement, and every partnership must be legally formalized (so for example once Roman and Kendal are picked up by the board as co-CEO they can be equal partners, but since Shiv have no legal power the sibling no longer function as a cohesive group)
Because he's clergy at heart, not a businessman. He's not there to sell, he's there to appeal hoping that you'd realize and shift. Conscious, unconscious, it's powerful feeling that influences your communication style. It's not so easy to put down what is right and simply do what works, especially so for people of this archetype.
Sociopaths can be very successful, but they have tendency to overreach and self-destruct do to their grandiosity, overconfidence and lack of empathy and recklessness, which leads them to misread situations and make mistakes.
What makes your comment hilarious is not your naivity, but blatantly stupid confidence with which you declare the "facts" you've learned from watching too many movies and shows.
Great video. Say hi to subscriber 709. But I just want to take this moment to remind you that Connor Roy was interested in politics from a very young age.
5:35 good point about people refusing to believe in climate change, especially given that the personal guilt angle comes from the sociopathic fossil fuel companies' misinformation campaigns.
Makes you think, doesn't it? Did they make up the "carbon footprint" to deflect blame away, or because they knew many people would end up rejecting belief in climate change altogether?
@@marketing_monster I think they threw what they could against the wall, found what stuck and molded it on the fly to benefit them. I don't believe in corporations having a grand conspiracy planned from the beginning, I believe they are driven by the constant mad scramble for power. As Logan says “Life’s not knights on horseback. It’s a number on a piece of paper. It’s a fight for a knife in the mud.”
only halfway through the video and I'm like: Grandiosity, Lack of Empathy, lack of Remorse, Power and Control Orientation ... yeah you could just go down the DSM-5 with NPD.There's a lot of it.
I honestly think that moreover than the paradox you outlined wonderfuly (!), it was a delicious 4 season satire, or perhaps a farce on how business is done by these ill-begoteen-neo-feudal-aristocrats sorta-bunch that they are, and how ridicilous all of this, well, is. None of them, as it seems, might infer business trully, it always seemed as if they are "trying" or perhaps "acting" all, well, 'businessy', but it wasn't true. They suck at it because they just, well, suck. And just like the ending - they lose it all, but nothing matters.
what i call “realtime simultaneous doublespeak” (what you call “being a chameleon”) has always been a talent of mine ever since I was a kid. prolly cuz of growing up between two polar opposite socio economic environments (rural working class central pa where i went to public school & high society one-percent manhattan where i went to elite private schools) and having to learn how to code switch and seamlessly adapt between them and integrate culturally. i’m able to make anyone feel like i relate to them, convince them of anything and im able to do it to two totally different ppl at the same exact time and make each feel like im saying two totally different things while technically only saying one. can make a walmart cashier feel like I relate to them as easily as i do kim kardashian. it’s always been my most useful talent and trait lol
@@marketing_monster it comes in handy lol… altho, at this point, im so used to engaging in it that i don’t always consciously realize im doing it til i catch myself. founder in the luxury industry now. but, before that, a background in marketing/branding/messaging & some light political consulting in my early 20s a few yrs ago
He, Leloup glad for your expansion bro. Je suis Un des tes plus long viewer sur TH-cam quand tu as fait une sur Logan Paul. Mec, you making massive progress bruv. Subscribed here aussi
Its not the focus obviously since its about the drama not the business necessarily, but the last season really bothered me because i don't think it made much sense for them to have a chance to destroy the deal because it was so much money and they even improved the offer a guy like Kendall with his history of drug use and in the prior year almost destroyed the company by snitching to the FBI would be made CEO temporarily or permanently. Which investor would trust him ? Or be willing to follow im the crazy ideas he has ?
Can't recommend the show enough, if you like that sort of things. Brilliantly written, acted and produced, my absolute favourite series of the last few years. Everyone's an assh***, but you can always understand why they are the way they are. Plus it's got moments of comedic genius :-D
I'm a child of divorce and spent 10 years in a complaints managing role - screaming, death threats, all that. As a result I accidentally got really really good at the chameleon aspect, and only discovered in my late thirties that its a monetisable skill.
@@marketing_monster Stakeholder management role in corporate banking. The management bit is just being personally credible and telling a good story that you can back up - likeability / adaptability is a surprisingly large part of that! Great video btw, subbed
@5:32: You seem to say here that it is a rhetorical mistake to use any approach that fails to get 100% agreement. E.g., what portion of the 30% who deny climate change would believe in it based on _any_ rhetorical case? Moreover, what % believe in it based on arguments that appeal to guilt? Even more to the point, what if guilt increases mobilization, such that those who are convinced by it are more likely to act? The goal of rhetoric is usually not mere belief, but _action._ I don't think you made your case effectively here. It was too glib.
@@marketing_monster Basketball is different though. Basketball is a team game, with clear lines for victory and defeat. You have a set job, a position, a goal--literally. And you can drop the ball--also literally. Now if someone gets out there, has a clutch moment and fucks it up, everyone can see it, everyone knows... Whether or not it cost the team the game, set someone up for failure, could be recovered, maybe some of that is a little too indent for some people, but you also have experts watching or participating who can explain it. At the end of a match, if it came down to one person making one decision and that was botched, someone somewhere will be able to tell me exactly what happened, why, and what it meant for the entire game. And in any case, layman or not, if I look up the scoreboard and see one team several points ahead at the end of the game, I at least know who won, and that there was a winner. In business, it's nothing like that. The only number that a majority of business people consider is profit, and more and more often that's simply means shareholder dividends. So the people at the top, and many of the people under them, all participate in what is basically gambling on the good fortune of your company. And even for more grounded businesses--businesses and corporations that don't revolve around finance or general business practices related to it--this can be true. So the line on the paper goes up, one man gets to look at it and see it, a handful of people get to benefit from it, and whatever else happens they consider that winning. But it's not really a team game; All too often, a business venture is considered successful if everyone gets fired, all of the locations get shuttered, but the shareholders and COO and CEO make out with a lot of money. It can be a banner year, with record profits record income records sales, but with 1,000+ people laid off right before the holiday season. Or you can make a big successful move, legitimizing a sneaky way to ship more work overseas, so that you can underpay more people, cutting costs across the board while pretending that you aren't participating in exploitation or even outright slave labor and other parts of the world. All of these and worse can happen, while people put on smiles and make fancy presentations for the only people they actually care about--investors or business partners--and that's considered a win. I mean technically I guess some of these people are good at business by default, but it's only because the system values profit and the people who make it the most over anything else. And for all this talk of good businessmen, and good leadership, I don't think it's a coincidence that most of the modern business world struggles so much at the slightest trouble, needs so much to rely on corporate subsidies and tax cuts, and works so hard to establish golden parachutes for top managers based on how many of them so often are forced out of their job and spend trackable percentages of their corporate overhead making sure that their future is protected for when this inevitable fuck up comes. I do believe there are a lot of people very good at business, I just think that most of them are stuck working under other people who are simply overconfident bullheaded pricks who aren't really good at business, they're just good at making shitty awful decisions and never feeling anything about it. And while there is still technically a difference, to me for instance, there's a lot of people who would disagree with me.
Sociopaths can turn our emotions off when we want to. That makes rational decision making easier than for most people. We see the world in a purely logical sense which disturbs a lot of people. We know what emotions are and even feel it sometimes but sees it as an obstical to getting things done. Thats why so many leaders are sociopaths because they dont let their feelings get in the way. Thats my opinion as a sociopath.
I think this was a great video and you seem like a really good creator but using AI to mess with people's voices to ask people to subscribe to you is creepy and weird as hell. not subscribing just for that lmao if I was an actor and someone used my voice for some marketing id feel so violated
It's an obvious joke so I felt this one was ok. I would not make anyone say somthing like that if there was any chance it could seem real, but obviously, I was not mentioned in Succession. Is it creepy to use someone's voice for a joke? I guess the norms haven't settled yet but to my sensibility it's ok.
I watched the show, beginning to end because of the hype and it was a let down. Horribly overrated. Completely lacked any real drama or suspense. Yes the acting was good but nothing they ever really did in the show had any meaning. None of the decisions they made held any weight. None of the mistakes came back to haunt them. I knew what I was getting into, I wasn’t expecting explosions and crime fighting, I can appreciate great dialogue but still, there were really no tense moments in the show and was anti climatic for the most part.
@@JoJoJoker that’s the over arching message? People don’t change? Lame. There’s a reason this only lasted four seasons. There was no story to tell. None of these characters really had any depth. The only thing they could do was kill of the best character to move the plot.
Everyone in Succession talks with an uncanny eloquence that makes them look much smarter than they actually are, and this kinda hides the fact that (just like in real life, I'd argue) persuasion never works. Persuasion as the magical art of changing people's minds and hearths with the proper sequence of magic words is just a myth. True "persuasion" is essentially brute force. During the confrontation between Matsson and Logan, all the Swede needs to do is to remind Logan of the imminent change in their power balance. Logan understands this reality so he capitulates. The (back-handed) compliment Matsson gives is just another display of power. It the context of the "exciting future" calling someone a "legend" is hardly a smooth compliment. It is a subtle poke. It is just an another way for Matsson to say "you are the past". Contrast this with the flattery Kendall gives to Tom: he saying "I respect you" is totally meaningless, because he has no power (especially compared to Logan). In fact, in this instance, Kendall uses all the right arguments he can make with the proper style, unlike he did with his siblings. If "persuasion" was real, this should have worked, but it does not. Tom's response comes from a place of sympathy, but all he can do is to remind Kendall of the power balance between him and Logan. In the end power is all that matters. The Roy kids are all in the same boat. Their source of power comes from them being Roy kids, which is by definition equally distributed, and that's the reason none of them can rise above the others. In the final scenes Shiv uses it to drag Kendall down. It is all they can do. Such a great show.
None of the characters in that show actually work. It’s all gossip, connections and negotiation. Nobody sits down with a computer for a few hours and works, nobody actually works in an office, nobody visits their facilities and parks, or speaks wth their workers directly except in crisis situations where they still decide whatever they want. Nobody except Tom.
At a high enough level, connection and negotiation IS the work. Gerry, Karl and so on work at the office. Shiv did in politics, Kendall did "in Shanghai" and even Roman was sent to LA to manage the studios.
I don't think Conor ever worked, though.
Agreed - high level people don’t do all the work, they make decisions and others do it
Connections and negotiation is the highest leverage work there is. This is the same thing carpenters (the dumb ones anyway) say about accountants. “They’re just looking at a screen while we work.”
Imagine you work for a big event management business. There would be a guy (let's call him top) who have contacts/ connections with big celebrities and do the main negotiation. There are other guys (bottom) who do all the physical work or it's management. The bottom guy wouldn't have a job without the top guy, but the bottom guys could be easily be replaced with anybody. And if the top guy is so good in negotiation he could get the contracts at least cost or great discounts which make a huge impact on companies profit.
@@marketing_monsterRunning for president as third party candidate and burning through $100,000,000 is work.
Kendall was right about his father being a malignant presence. He was also right about being a decaying empire within a decaying empire. The problem was that he and his siblings were just as bad as their father. The Roy family is just like the Bluth family from Arrested Development.
Ken and Shiv are the kind of narcissists that can't help but bask in the glow when they're on top, which fucks them every single time. Kendall is obvious, turning into basically a different person whenever he feels he's winning. Shiv always believes it was some genius move that earned her a place at the top and she's untouchable now that she has an ounce of power, even when that power is very obviously a trick or not secure yet, because she believes she is the obvious choice and everyone else is just blind.
Roman can't handle being at the top either but self-sabotages because of his feelings of inadequacy, not superiority. He's also a narcissist because he only thinks of himself and cares about his own feelings, but he doesn't believe he is actually better than everyone else. He is only superior to his siblings by way of being directly inferior to his dad.
As a bunch of narcissists, the Roy siblings can’t learn nor be self-aware. Kendall keeps trying to become CEO, but never thinks about the fact that he’s an unreliable, weak, drug addict who publicly embarrassed his family and corporations several times in the past. And I’m not going to waste time talking about the other idiotic siblings.
It’s amazing that NONE among them ever suggested that each should be CEO on a rotation basis. Ken would be CEO for a year, then be followed by Roman and then Shiv. They are always trying to push one another, and hoping that the other two siblings will accept, which inevitably leads them to betray each other.
Well rotation is obviously a No Go, the siblings know that the one first in rotation will never let go
(mind you that the board will not accept a formal rotation, so the siblings will have to count on each other words, which is a big no-no in Succession universe. The fact that all the main characters have no Integrity and therefore their word can not be counted upon is another big reason why they are all terrible at business. If you can not be trusted have very little room to maneuver)
The lack of self awareness is truly epic. Shiv really believed she was going to be made CEO, even though she had zero experience working in the company.
@@marketing_monsterShiv threw it away the second she started trying to steer Mattson. He was happy with the public benefits of continuity but wasn't up for more Game of Thrones nonsense. Logan wouldn't have tolerated that either.
none of them suggested the ceo rotation because that's a stupid idea😭 this isn't tag in grade school. this would diminish every last bit of confidence stakeholders had in RoyCo after Logan's death. their stocks would plummet
@@marketing_monstershiv at the beginning of the show had worked at Waystar but left for politics. She returned in an executive role after season 2.
He is going to be huge, I feel it in my bones!
That's why I loved the season 4 episode at the Mattson Scandinavian retreat and the three siblings talk in the woods basically about the fact that none of them knows anything or how to actually do anything
Succession is the sort of show you watch and then just keep thinking about... and then have to rewatch in its entirety like a few months later. At least is was for me! Awesome video about it!
Your analysis of the convo with Matsson was incredible
Excellent analysis!
Would love more Succession videos on this channel.
Thank you! If this one does well, I'll see if I have another one in me :)
This is truly outstanding breakdown of a Succession characters arc. Respect.
much appreciated, thank you
@@marketing_monster May I ask, have you ever trained somehow your cognitive functions? I mean, I was always struggling with understanding deeply people's behaviour and navigating myself between them. Maybe I'm a narcissist as in your video, Roy's are, idk. But I wanted to ask, do you feel like it is sth you're good at from birth or you've have studied for eg. psychology?
@@MrRocendroll I studied human behavior a lot. If you haven't read it yet, Cialdini's Influence is a great place to start.
I view Logan, Lukas and Josh (Aaronson) as sophisticated negotiators and they are strong at probabilistic decision making. They are good at business because business at a multibillion market cap firm is about the very big decisions, not the operational details (Karl, Frank, Gerri and the staff)
Correct.
Very good analysis throughout - Kendall versus the siblings, Kendall failed pitch to Tom, and finally the cold confrontation between the heavyweights, Logan and Matsson. Great content!
I’m subscribing now and I’ll be checking back to see the number of likes in this comment as this channel grows in coming months! 👌
I think this is the best Succession analysis I've seen to date. Fantastic work!
Wow, thanks!
Succession was written by artists not the founders of multi-billion-dollar companies. The human elements are fantastic in Succession. It misses a beat when the scenes switch to business or politics.
Like all TV shows, it's about the people, not the company.
I'd say that missing the beat with business and politics was consciously built in the story - they're supposed to not understand the wider repercussions of their business or political decisions because they're too self-involved to assume they could be wrong and actually ask for advice. Even Logan is guilty of it because, after years of being hands-on when he was building his fortune, he's now risen too high and got too secure in his position to see that the times are changing. So, as an aside (something that became clear on second watching of the series): Kendall is actually probably right in the beginning when he tells him they need to diversify and not focus on TV as much. That's the tragedy of Kendall, in a way - he actually did spend many years working for the company, he does have experience and his own ideas that could work. But because Logan wants him to be a leader yet at the same time never gives him the chance to actually lead (because Logan always needs to be in charge), Ken feels like he's got no choice but to try and emulate his father's style of bullying everyone and talk hard - something that works for Logan who's got years of being on top to back up his bravado, but could never work for Ken, because everyone sees him as daddy's little boy. So the more he leans into it, the more ridiculous he appears - but at the same time he's never in a position where he's allowed to NOT lean into it and try to be his own person (at least not until it's too late and he's too set in this way to change it)
@@AW-uv3cb You're right, but I don't think it was 100% a conscious decision. I think part of the issue is that Jeremy Strong and Jesse Armstrong are both British, so their interpretation of American business and especially American politics doesn't always quite feel authentic.
I'd would really love to see more analysis on Matsson, I've just never seen it before
I think he’s supposed to be like Elon. Hes totally smoke and mirrors and Ebba has created an image that he’s s tech visionary and a genius. But he’s not nearly as intelligent as he’s presented
Interesting idea! I'm going to look into it
@@awill3454 Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman Fried would be more apt. Regardless of how much of a doofus you think Elon is at least Paypal and Tesla are real companies while Mattson's business is pure fraud as he forged the user data.
Not "pure fraud"; if I remember correctly only their Indian data was incorrect. Presumably Gojo is a Netflix-style app that lots of people use.
I don't think the data is supposed to be "forged", but rather a mistake that they never admitted to. If the data was forged, Shiv would not advise him to release the corrected numbers - it would kill the whole company and potentially send Matsson to jail.
@@marketing_monster what do you make of Matsson revealing the blood story to Shiv? Do you think it was a negotiation tactic?
I mean it is a dramatization of business so obviously it is going to be outlandish but it also touches on a real thing that isn’t uncommon the further up in businesses you go
Great analysis, went more depth than I imagined, and I actually learned something from it.
Definitely know you’re going to make it big, fire content, can’t wait for more, subscribed
thanks!
When their stock price dropped, none of them even mentioned doing a stock buyback. They had a ton of cash to do it, but they were too focused on acquiring new companies. That's the first thing I would do to increase share price, and I'm an idiot lol
739 let's go!
I'd had that another reason that everyone in succession suck at business is that they all have no integrity, their word have no value. Therefore their ability to partner up and retain allies is very limited. There is simply no room for handshake agreement, and every partnership must be legally formalized (so for example once Roman and Kendal are picked up by the board as co-CEO they can be equal partners, but since Shiv have no legal power the sibling no longer function as a cohesive group)
That's an excellent point. Their strategy is optimal short term, but long term it always falls apart.
(and thanks for the sub 🙏)
Because he's clergy at heart, not a businessman. He's not there to sell, he's there to appeal hoping that you'd realize and shift. Conscious, unconscious, it's powerful feeling that influences your communication style. It's not so easy to put down what is right and simply do what works, especially so for people of this archetype.
There’s no way this man only has 2,000 subscribers. You’ve got a bright future ahead
thanks! 🙏
Bravo pour cette chaîne ! Congratulations. I have been following you on your french channel for years! Great job
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Sociopaths can be very successful, but they have tendency to overreach and self-destruct do to their grandiosity, overconfidence and lack of empathy and recklessness, which leads them to misread situations and make mistakes.
...In the movies.
You should get out more. You clearly don't see the difference between movie plots and real life.
What makes your comment hilarious is not your naivity, but blatantly stupid confidence with which you declare the "facts" you've learned from watching too many movies and shows.
@@omg9261Lmao, what got You so butthurt?
Sept 14, 2024. It doesnt twll me soecifically on mobile but i am somewhere around sub number 4750...
Holy moly, this was beautifully done!! Subscribed!
Welcome aboard!
Here's a quote from a psychiatrist "sociopaths tend to manipulate others and are very successful due to their high level of cognitive empathy"
yeah but i'm guessing the success rate goes down severely when the people they're trying to manipulate are also sociopaths
Great video. Say hi to subscriber 709. But I just want to take this moment to remind you that Connor Roy was interested in politics from a very young age.
Of course. What a terrible omission on my part 🙇♂️
Fellow Conheads will always remember
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Wow, such a great analysis. Loved your takes.
Thank you!
You've persuaded me to persist with the show mate. Was stuck on episode 2 of season 1 for the longest time.
Great vid. Well argued and edited! Look forward to more
Much appreciated!
Fear and Death are Logan's motives and the eventual Fear of Death and then Death.
5:35 good point about people refusing to believe in climate change, especially given that the personal guilt angle comes from the sociopathic fossil fuel companies' misinformation campaigns.
Makes you think, doesn't it? Did they make up the "carbon footprint" to deflect blame away, or because they knew many people would end up rejecting belief in climate change altogether?
@@marketing_monster I think they threw what they could against the wall, found what stuck and molded it on the fly to benefit them. I don't believe in corporations having a grand conspiracy planned from the beginning, I believe they are driven by the constant mad scramble for power.
As Logan says “Life’s not knights on horseback. It’s a number on a piece of paper. It’s a fight for a knife in the mud.”
only halfway through the video and I'm like: Grandiosity, Lack of Empathy, lack of Remorse, Power and Control Orientation ... yeah you could just go down the DSM-5 with NPD.There's a lot of it.
Well done 👏🏻 , I hope you continue with those Succession analysis as it's one of the best shows ever
Thanks! Might do another one since people seem to like it
I honestly think that moreover than the paradox you outlined wonderfuly (!), it was a delicious 4 season satire, or perhaps a farce on how business is done by these ill-begoteen-neo-feudal-aristocrats sorta-bunch that they are, and how ridicilous all of this, well, is. None of them, as it seems, might infer business trully, it always seemed as if they are "trying" or perhaps "acting" all, well, 'businessy', but it wasn't true. They suck at it because they just, well, suck. And just like the ending - they lose it all, but nothing matters.
great video, and easily one of the best requests for subscription I've EVER seen! looking forward to your content :)
thank you :)
I am subscribing, because not only are you talking about succession, you were also talking about better call Saul
Haha I even have a dedicated video about it: th-cam.com/video/J0qouBLaCXg/w-d-xo.html
@@marketing_monster I’m here for this. Thanks!
what i call “realtime simultaneous doublespeak” (what you call “being a chameleon”) has always been a talent of mine ever since I was a kid. prolly cuz of growing up between two polar opposite socio economic environments (rural working class central pa where i went to public school & high society one-percent manhattan where i went to elite private schools) and having to learn how to code switch and seamlessly adapt between them and integrate culturally. i’m able to make anyone feel like i relate to them, convince them of anything and im able to do it to two totally different ppl at the same exact time and make each feel like im saying two totally different things while technically only saying one. can make a walmart cashier feel like I relate to them as easily as i do kim kardashian. it’s always been my most useful talent and trait lol
seems like an amazing skill. What do you for work?
@@marketing_monster it comes in handy lol… altho, at this point, im so used to engaging in it that i don’t always consciously realize im doing it til i catch myself.
founder in the luxury industry now. but, before that, a background in marketing/branding/messaging & some light political consulting in my early 20s a few yrs ago
This video so good Tom Wambsgans himself commented on it
Being able to relate with a wide variety of humans is an important skill. The Hill School?
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Great analysis and most creative request for subs!
Glad you enjoyed it
He, Leloup glad for your expansion bro. Je suis Un des tes plus long viewer sur TH-cam quand tu as fait une sur Logan Paul. Mec, you making massive progress bruv. Subscribed here aussi
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Easiest subscription of my life. Can't wait to see the stock rise in value
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Great analyse ! Love this Channel
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Its not the focus obviously since its about the drama not the business necessarily, but the last season really bothered me because i don't think it made much sense for them to have a chance to destroy the deal because it was so much money and they even improved the offer a guy like Kendall with his history of drug use and in the prior year almost destroyed the company by snitching to the FBI would be made CEO temporarily or permanently. Which investor would trust him ? Or be willing to follow im the crazy ideas he has ?
Subscriber #992 … onwards and upwards mate!
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great video man.
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699 subs to now over 4500. Keep it up.
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Amazing stuff !!
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Well done sir. Fantastic content. I’ve never seen the show but this was well researched and well edited. You’re on your way! Subbed
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Can't recommend the show enough, if you like that sort of things. Brilliantly written, acted and produced, my absolute favourite series of the last few years. Everyone's an assh***, but you can always understand why they are the way they are. Plus it's got moments of comedic genius :-D
Lol j'étais pas pret pr l'ENG, j'ai vu ta photo j'avais pas compris c'était une nouvelle chaîne :), good luck
7:33 Accent's slipping
I was worried, but you linked to a clip of the show 🤔
Surprised you don’t have more subscribers already
You should do more Succession analysis videos
I'm thinking about it, but with no new episodes I'm going to need a rewatch - my memory is failing me !
Amazing video!
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Stan we found you ! You cannot hide for long...
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Dudee you killed it. Fuckin Loved it!
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I'm a child of divorce and spent 10 years in a complaints managing role - screaming, death threats, all that.
As a result I accidentally got really really good at the chameleon aspect, and only discovered in my late thirties that its a monetisable skill.
how did you monetize it?
@@marketing_monster Stakeholder management role in corporate banking. The management bit is just being personally credible and telling a good story that you can back up - likeability / adaptability is a surprisingly large part of that!
Great video btw, subbed
Super interesting. You are the second person with a similar story in the comments. I think the other was in sales.
@5:32: You seem to say here that it is a rhetorical mistake to use any approach that fails to get 100% agreement.
E.g., what portion of the 30% who deny climate change would believe in it based on _any_ rhetorical case? Moreover, what % believe in it based on arguments that appeal to guilt? Even more to the point, what if guilt increases mobilization, such that those who are convinced by it are more likely to act? The goal of rhetoric is usually not mere belief, but _action._
I don't think you made your case effectively here. It was too glib.
Because it makes sense dramaturgically
so change your interests for the better!
Amazing video, mad men next please
Thanks! I did a Mad Men vid here: th-cam.com/video/NSqXRjUlVRU/w-d-xo.html
Great vidéo man, is that a French accent que j'entends ?
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Fantastic analysis
Glad you enjoyed it
If they plug your channel on the show I have no choice but to give a sub, I guess
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Is there an English version of this video?
just this one, sorry
You persuaded me! I’m subscriber 815
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I got here when there were already 1.26k :O
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I subscribed after the final edit, 856.
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Short answer? Almost all businesspeople in real life are bad at business.
This makes no sense. It would be like saying all basketball players suck at basketball. Compared to whom?
@@marketing_monster Basketball is different though. Basketball is a team game, with clear lines for victory and defeat. You have a set job, a position, a goal--literally. And you can drop the ball--also literally.
Now if someone gets out there, has a clutch moment and fucks it up, everyone can see it, everyone knows... Whether or not it cost the team the game, set someone up for failure, could be recovered, maybe some of that is a little too indent for some people, but you also have experts watching or participating who can explain it.
At the end of a match, if it came down to one person making one decision and that was botched, someone somewhere will be able to tell me exactly what happened, why, and what it meant for the entire game. And in any case, layman or not, if I look up the scoreboard and see one team several points ahead at the end of the game, I at least know who won, and that there was a winner.
In business, it's nothing like that. The only number that a majority of business people consider is profit, and more and more often that's simply means shareholder dividends. So the people at the top, and many of the people under them, all participate in what is basically gambling on the good fortune of your company. And even for more grounded businesses--businesses and corporations that don't revolve around finance or general business practices related to it--this can be true.
So the line on the paper goes up, one man gets to look at it and see it, a handful of people get to benefit from it, and whatever else happens they consider that winning. But it's not really a team game; All too often, a business venture is considered successful if everyone gets fired, all of the locations get shuttered, but the shareholders and COO and CEO make out with a lot of money. It can be a banner year, with record profits record income records sales, but with 1,000+ people laid off right before the holiday season. Or you can make a big successful move, legitimizing a sneaky way to ship more work overseas, so that you can underpay more people, cutting costs across the board while pretending that you aren't participating in exploitation or even outright slave labor and other parts of the world. All of these and worse can happen, while people put on smiles and make fancy presentations for the only people they actually care about--investors or business partners--and that's considered a win.
I mean technically I guess some of these people are good at business by default, but it's only because the system values profit and the people who make it the most over anything else. And for all this talk of good businessmen, and good leadership, I don't think it's a coincidence that most of the modern business world struggles so much at the slightest trouble, needs so much to rely on corporate subsidies and tax cuts, and works so hard to establish golden parachutes for top managers based on how many of them so often are forced out of their job and spend trackable percentages of their corporate overhead making sure that their future is protected for when this inevitable fuck up comes.
I do believe there are a lot of people very good at business, I just think that most of them are stuck working under other people who are simply overconfident bullheaded pricks who aren't really good at business, they're just good at making shitty awful decisions and never feeling anything about it. And while there is still technically a difference, to me for instance, there's a lot of people who would disagree with me.
A lot of it is luck and (eventually) delegation
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Meritocracy isn’t real, scum floats to the top.
Strange takeaway
How do you do the outro?/ AI? cameo?
Eleven labs. Just having some fun
5:30 Vive la Enormous Résistance!
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its because theyre nepo babies so they can fail without repercussion
The Kendall character is behaving exactly how the Democratic party sells to voters in America.
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Sociopaths can turn our emotions off when we want to. That makes rational decision making easier than for most people. We see the world in a purely logical sense which disturbs a lot of people. We know what emotions are and even feel it sometimes but sees it as an obstical to getting things done. Thats why so many leaders are sociopaths because they dont let their feelings get in the way. Thats my opinion as a sociopath.
I think this was a great video and you seem like a really good creator but using AI to mess with people's voices to ask people to subscribe to you is creepy and weird as hell. not subscribing just for that lmao if I was an actor and someone used my voice for some marketing id feel so violated
It's an obvious joke so I felt this one was ok.
I would not make anyone say somthing like that if there was any chance it could seem real, but obviously, I was not mentioned in Succession.
Is it creepy to use someone's voice for a joke? I guess the norms haven't settled yet but to my sensibility it's ok.
Good video, but Thumbnail is very suboptimal
Why is that?
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Nice vid, 793rd sub from me.
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I watched the show, beginning to end because of the hype and it was a let down. Horribly overrated. Completely lacked any real drama or suspense. Yes the acting was good but nothing they ever really did in the show had any meaning. None of the decisions they made held any weight. None of the mistakes came back to haunt them. I knew what I was getting into, I wasn’t expecting explosions and crime fighting, I can appreciate great dialogue but still, there were really no tense moments in the show and was anti climatic for the most part.
People don’t change and what we do doesn’t have any long term impact. That’s the writers views.
@@JoJoJoker that’s the over arching message? People don’t change? Lame. There’s a reason this only lasted four seasons. There was no story to tell. None of these characters really had any depth. The only thing they could do was kill of the best character to move the plot.
I can see how someone would not like the show. But I'm amazed you stuck through to the end if you hated it that much!
@@marketing_monster I didn’t hate it, I said it was overhyped and it was. I’m not sure what “someone like you means”.
@@mrjonsey I didn"t say "someone like you".
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Everyone in Succession talks with an uncanny eloquence that makes them look much smarter than they actually are, and this kinda hides the fact that (just like in real life, I'd argue) persuasion never works. Persuasion as the magical art of changing people's minds and hearths with the proper sequence of magic words is just a myth. True "persuasion" is essentially brute force. During the confrontation between Matsson and Logan, all the Swede needs to do is to remind Logan of the imminent change in their power balance. Logan understands this reality so he capitulates. The (back-handed) compliment Matsson gives is just another display of power. It the context of the "exciting future" calling someone a "legend" is hardly a smooth compliment. It is a subtle poke. It is just an another way for Matsson to say "you are the past".
Contrast this with the flattery Kendall gives to Tom: he saying "I respect you" is totally meaningless, because he has no power (especially compared to Logan). In fact, in this instance, Kendall uses all the right arguments he can make with the proper style, unlike he did with his siblings. If "persuasion" was real, this should have worked, but it does not. Tom's response comes from a place of sympathy, but all he can do is to remind Kendall of the power balance between him and Logan. In the end power is all that matters.
The Roy kids are all in the same boat. Their source of power comes from them being Roy kids, which is by definition equally distributed, and that's the reason none of them can rise above the others. In the final scenes Shiv uses it to drag Kendall down. It is all they can do.
Such a great show.
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