All Into the Light Updates Tested (Update 7.3.6 Pre Vs Post) | Destiny 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2024
- Today we have our pre post testing for our Into the Light Update 7.3.6. There aren't a ton of changes in this one but still some note worthy ones to go over.
#destiny2 #intothelight #bungie
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:24 Quicksilver Storm
2:09 Whisper of the Worm
3:36 One Thousand Voices
4:40 Forerunner
5:38 The Last Word
6:28 Breech-Loaded Grenade Launchers
11:01 Lightweight Bows
11:39 Precision Auto Rifles
12:08 Precision Hand Cannons
12:38 Adaptive Hand Cannons
13:26 Rapid-Fire Pulse Rifles
14:29 Lightweight Pulse Rifles
15:19 Adaptive Pulse Rifles
16:15 Rapid-Fire Scout Rifles
16:52 Precision Shotguns
17:11 Magnificent Howl
18:03 Sunshot (PvP Only)
18:30 Wish-Ender (PvP Only)
18:49 Primary Weapon Flinch (PvP Only)
19:40 Final Thoughts
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Can't wait for final shape's raid where the Witness' dps phase is 3 minutes long and it is just them floating stationary in the air while 12 guardians plink plonk them with 70 Whisper of the worm rounds
Lol literally 😂
Or they’ll give him a dad bod and he’ll be trying to kiss you the whole phase glitching against your face while you use Thunderlord (Nezarec).
The last few raids released were good about having the bosses actually fighting rather than free damage so I’m sure it’ll be interesting
Ah yes the obligatory “bitch about the content before we even get it” comment that gets 100s of upvotes. Considering the last 2 bosses don’t stand still for shit and people complain they actually move too much, why assume this one will sit completely stationary?
That gotta feel so good tho
Friendship ended with Quicksilver Storm, now Final Warning is my best friend
Ya FW is up next😂
I'm still using it because it's still a strand exotic. That extra damage plus 3.0 synergy cannot be overlooked.Yet everyone regarding this nerf is completely overlooking the one thing that makes it phenomenal still which was untouched.
@@RhapsodicXStyle07 its still op but its forever tainted by a nerf. Its like having a god roll gun getting nerfed. It will never feel perfect again 😭😭
@RhapsodicXStyle07 final warning is just better at doing that. It unravels on its own, and it has insane crit damage it's just better, lmao
@@RhapsodicXStyle07navigator was better anyway
Quicksilver storm could shoot 5 rockets even with 1 magazine, not just 4.
But man, that nerf sucks
Yeah fr, I've tried it out and you can REALLY feel that nerf
@@Spooqi😂
Nerf was way over the top, like so many of their nerfs are. Hopefully like the anarchy nerf it'll reach a point where the nerf is largely undone.
NGL I havent even really noticed the nerf at least with the rockets, the gl I have noticed but I didn't really use the GL that much. I believe a lot of people have but I play strand titan and I dont really use my primary that much compared to my special or just punching things.
The aoe was already poo
I think a cool idea for a 1K voices catalyst would be stuffing all your ammo into a single higher damage longer beam that gets more powerful the longer the beam lasts, kinda like a heavy trace rifle
Yo you cooked with that I like that idea 💡
Weak aura: give 1k particle deconstruction.
Strong aura: make 1k use primary ammo
@@lucienmoolman8017special, let's be honest the thing I by no means a primary, it just lacks behind other exotics.
@@lucienmoolman8017 On top of that give it wolfpack rounds, although that still might not move the needle.
Just give it controlled burst
1K voices doesn’t need controlled demolition. It needs something much more creative and cooler.
My idea is this: make it so that holding down the trigger while it’s unleashing its beam allows the beam to keep firing and consuming ammo until it runs out.
Massive giga laser of death pls Bungo
😂 exactly aand wipes all ur ammo in one burst
If they turn 1k into pocket infinity i'mma be pissed bc i don't have it yet
I imagined something akin to mega flare from final fantasy
I’ve said that should be its catalyst. Would be Pocket Infinity.
Pretty much what ager scepter does
Thanks for all the testing you do! These videos are always so helpful.
Controlled Burst on 1k Voices would be a great catalyst
Nah Thresh
Controlled burst on merciless or gtfo 😈
nah a paritcle deconstruction for linears and fusions
And more capacity
@@SuperSippy 👀
Thank you for all the effort you put into testing all this stuff out
Appreciate these breakdown videos. Giving us good information clearly and with accuracy. 🙏
I'm happy for the flinch change. I honestly haven't enjoyed PVP in a long time because of it. It wasn't the idea of flinch that bothered me. It's just how severe it could be
As usual, thank you for the breakdown of info and the math as well
we appreciate you cross 🙌🏽
A very simple catalyst for 1k would just be "your solar ignitions increase the damage and charge speed of your next 1k shot" (no buff timer, procs while stowed). This gives the same benefits as a controlled burst perk (since you need to hit all ticks for the ignite anyway) but also makes it useful for stop and go gameplay like nightfalls etc where you creating ignitions from other sources.
My go-to channel for when big sandbox changes happen !! Keep up the good work
some of my favorite content from you are these massive sandbox changes. all the updated info need in one vid
Thanks for the effort making these vid's Aztecross!
I rely on these videos man thank you guys seriously for all your hard work
Most definitely alot of time dedication here. Much appreciated 😊
awesome been waiting for this thanks for then hard work folks
Nice of you to shoutout your team at the end. Thumbs up for sure.
Lunas howl (OG) was my 1st 1k PVP kills. Im happy to see it come back
My first 1k was recluse.
Chaperone and Luna's howl are my most used weapons
Thank you for the testing video
One Thousand Voices needs controlled burst as a caty 👌
nah Thresh
@@Fxde-fv9fb NAH THATS TOO MUCH 😭😭😭 IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE BROKEN
They should just undo nerfs from 3/4 years ago. Everything’s been powercrept
Id prefer something Unique, rather than a generic albeit powerful perk
Particle Deconstruction
Damn, cross been putting in the work this week
make the 1k voices catalyst particle deconstruction
yeah with wolf pack rounds
@@dann1483 And add div into it
@@dann1483somehow someway i need to see this modded
Thanks for the data, homie.
Great video man!
Great video Aztecross and Team!
Great video. I know this next update will change a lot
Great job Cross.thanks
Thank you Aztecross!!!!
Note for quicksilver: you activate the rocket faster on crits you can still get 3 grenades if you land mostly crits
Great video 🎉
As a warlock main running 1k, My rotation for doing crazy amounts of dmg for a dps phase is casting well, throw 5 fusions and celestials, then unload all 12 1k shots. also noticed gathering a heavy brick w solar scav on gives 4 ammo everytime for a better ammo economy in trade for a mod slot.
I’ve personally been enjoying Stay Frosty (Lightweight PR) with Headseeker after these changes. With Bakris it really puts in work now.
What automaticaly came on my mind when seen the reduced effect of "dissorienting grenades", if the "concussion grenades" falls under same, or better, if they are coded as same in the game or not.
Cause yes, still holding the Lingering Dread from before this perk was removed.
Div and Whisper are about to be best buddies
Imagine having particle deconstruction as the exotic Catalyst for 1k voices😮
I used Ex Diris and Mothkeeper's Wraps in legend onslaught and it was putting in good work
1:41 quicksilver still goated tbh. It’s a free infinite ammo special GL
My thoughts exactly. The grenades that QS shoots is still 15% better than a regular breach-loaded GL
It’s still so strong. People are definitely over reacting a bit. It’s still so strong. That being said Final Warning just became an even stronger choice than it already was. That thing is nuts. Highest dps of any exotic primary in the game, free unraveling, and with horse shuttle in the artifact this season it’s even stronger than normal. It’s so good. But I get why people don’t like it. It takes some getting used to.
One of the people in my clan said this day 1 of Trials this weekend:
"Just as an FYI. New ammo crates in trials do not split ammo when using 2 x special weapons. You get full ammo for both. Wanna use 2 snipers? Go for it. Double trace? Sure thing. Waveframe GL + forerunner? Yessir."
I personally felt the effects of that because it felt like every game had a forerunner user lmaoo
My duo and I dealt with nonstop Forerunners from 2 if not 3 enemy players for our entire session last night. He hopped off and I solo queued and they disappeared
@@djwhyteryce3368 That's pretty much how my queue was all night on Friday 🥲
Waveframe + forerunner is diabolical
Double thanks! You and your team put so much time and effort in to these videos, really appreciated buddy!
thank god for the revert on GL's in pvp. I was legitimately done on top of the CHeckmate changes
Aaaah yea my meta newsletter
I been using quicksilver all day it's still amazing.
Quicksilver is still fine. It's still a dummy strong exotic, but it's now in band instead of wildly OUT of band.
@@senounatsuru6453exactly. Instead of free heavy gl for using the weapon, you get free special gl for using the weapon
It really was. Especially for how little work it takes to use.
Yeah I used it in master crota this weekend and completely forgot it was nerfed. Didn’t even notice.
@forrestrichard8133 I can definitely notice, but it just went from amazing to really good.
One thing to remember with Adaptive Pulses- pretty much any damage buff will make it 2 tap at all resiliences.
As far as Whisper goes, Warlord's ruin comes to mind if you're all grouped together. It's a prolonged engagement with multiple smaller damage phases, so having all those shots plus whatever heavy drops along the way can probably put in some work. Assuming a god roll LFR doesn't do more work anyway.
Thank ya!
Thanks big boi xD
The last word does some nice primary damage though. I did not know this stacks and extra damage per crit hit. Kinda spicy
bro i remember titan with lion rampant and mountaintop in crucible, those were the days of terror
cover how gutshot and headseeker impact the pulse rifle buffs!
Excelente Work
I haven't taken Whisper of the Worm off since I crafted it.
It melts Onslaught bosses.
Was able to carry a pair of level 6 Guardians to level 41 by more or less soloing the bosses.
I'd Well at the back of the room crouch down and start plinking the bosses. Also to note I've been using Sanguine Alchemy
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O if you wondering I switch to Salvation's Grip for Ad clear
Whisper actually generates 1 bullet from thin air with every 3 shots you hit. So actually the number of rounds you fire with field prep is 41, and the total damage is around 4,000,000.
The thing people are missing is bungie has given us black hammer and black hammer but exotic both with uncapped white nail 3 times and every time it kinda shifted people's mindset in a way where whisper was the only dps option especially with stuff like div and bungie is trying to avoid that again. The people who were around for the rough lfg times ("must have fatebringer, black hammer, and Ghorn or kick") understand the most. You can make the argument that if bungie stops building bosses around: pop well, pop tether + Div, use crit heavy weapons for a long dps phase whisper won't be an issue and they've kinda been doing this with bosses that more reward rockets, lmgs, special swapping, and some swords but the bottom line is the pve dps sandbox is pretty nuanced and at the end of the day most bosses will continue to be deleted by stuff like old shoulder charge combos which got replaced by banner of war shotty combos. As much as people will complain that bungie puts titans in a box they have some of the most effective builds all across the game and some of the more fun aspect, fragment, and exotic combinations if you aren't a meta slave and titan is by FAR my least played class. At the end of the day dps phases are as hard as we make them, there will be the easy to setup stuff then theres the madmen who will figure out the math of the weirdest dps setup ever and quadruple everyone elses damage but until they fix the damage leaching of stuff like dragons breath, 1k voices, throwable pole dancer, ect. you'll continue to see the same old dps options although we have ALOT of dps options now which is a good thing. I mean theres technically no wrong way to dps the current dungeon final boss but you're a madman if you're trying to do something like 4th horseman 😂😂😂
11:10 that delay tho 🤣🤣🫠
What would be cool is having both the group doing 3 things at one group has to snipe eyes to keep the boss shields down while the others go in with shotgun and or swords to do make dps and relic holder to cleans the other two
Thank you for the explosive payload comparison although supposedly explosive isn’t doing as much damage anymore even though it three taps. Saw a lot of posts on Reddit
1k actually did kinda get a damage buff, since the whole ignition damage bug was fixed. Now when radiant or in a well, the ignitions roughly tripled in damage compared to before and it's quite decent now as long as nobody else is making use of ignitions.
Another S tier data dump! Thank you for all your hard work Team Aztecross!
I just think raid exotics just need to be in a class of their own in certain fields. So far 1K and Eyes just get beat out by better options that don't need a raid to get. They could fix eyes with just a perk change not needing a kill to proc and 1k needs dmg or a support catalyst.
Firstly on console I haven’t noticed a change in the flinch at all, secondly bows in general but specifically lightweights require more accuracy than hand cannons on console, the damage buff changes nothing when the arrow misses unless the scope is directly in the middle of the enemies head
my wife left me, but at least i have all the destiny dlcs and merch
Edit: it appears that one of you troglodytes thought I was serious. This is a joke
W Wife W D2
my wife stayed. she a destiny player too....
She got vaulted. She might be back sometime
Cool story bro, you married to the grind don’t let a woman fool you
No one can stop you now guardian.
Thanks
“I don’t like [forerunner] against tormentors”
That’s the main weapon for Root of Nightmares solos for taking out tormentors in the first encounter
That's fine, he still doesn't like it
I guess a small buff to Ticcus Divination is good, but I'd love some ignitions.
I think Id like to craft whisper with field prep so I can use those spots taken by reserve mods for something else and make the build more potent. Loss of 2 ammo reserve is easier worth a more potent build IMO.
If Thousand Voices catalyst were to come I would enjoy control burst on it slightly better charge time and some more damage
Elsies rifle is feeling Criiiiiispy 🔥 I'm liking it over the messenger 👍🏻.
Got my god roll, fluted, Ricochet or flared, keep away or zen, headseeker or kill clip with stability MW.
Oversoul is another under rated one too
Nightshade is fun to use to me idk if it’s a nostalgic thing but I got one with keep away kill clip and I was top fragging for the 4 games I used it in
I was using the malediction it was kinda nice in pvp.
Rapid fire pulses definitely feel better. Scalar potential put in a lot of work this past weekend in trials and it won me a lot of fights 2v1. That's one reason I love rapid fire pulses it fires fast
Triple tap would’ve been cool on whisper that way instead of taking 2 from reserves and 1 from thin air it would take 1 from reserves and 2 out of thin air
Good 1k voices catalyst would just be if the laser could be expended continuously and you could blow your whole load, reload and blow it all again. Just dump all of it. Like the sidearm laser
As a Salvo enjoyer, I am truly pleased.
1k Voice catalyst: Either do a particle deconstruction style catalyst to make it similar to gjallahorn or give it controlled burst.
Maybe a good catalyst for 1K would be something along the lines of dragonfly or sunshot, where the explosion can chain to surrounding enemies and make them explode 🤷♂️
Need to test 1k voices with Dawn Chorus. I was using it as my heavy in the onslaught boss rooms and it was very good.
Fantastic
It could be something like riven where your slowly damag8ng throughout the whole encounter
1k right now plays the same role as leviathan breath, but only one person can use it due to only one ignition being able to proc on one target.
I feel the winds of change on D2 hype
Whisper will be beast in any group I run since I am a Divinity support player.
In my opinion 1000 Voices needs a damage buff with a catalyst that speeds up its rate of fire so you can get more beams shot quicker.
P.S. When it comes to The Last Word you have to fight in shotgun ranch which can make it annoying to use sometimes, I know in trials people have special ammo all the time now so i feel at least for trials The Last Word is not the best choice.
Anyone looking for something to replace quicksilver should really really give Final Warning a try. I know it's not super popular because it takes some getting used to in order to master. But it has the best dps of any exotic primary in the game. It's so good. I love that thing. Quicksilver is still very good and also a Rufus' Fury can take it's place and hold it's own with a rewind rounds/target lock roll. But yeah I highly suggest Final Warning. That thing is nutty. Very strong.
I need an official Aztecross "Blow Thy Load" t-shirt.
You can 3 tap again with explosive payload however it currently hurts your damage falloff. You are still doing around 5% less damage overall, you can literally 3 tap further without the perk. You are essentially now trading extra flinch for slightly worse range. I did some basic testing, I used a fatebringer with double perks and explosive payload. Got 3 headshots without a kill, swapped the perk without moving and got the kill. Not a fan, I don't think it should extend your 3tap range at all since it adds flinch but I don't believe it should hurt it like it currently does.
so in other words bungie made quick silver storm as weak as it was before light fall
For everyone who doesn’t know, Bungie already changed the magnificent howl perk on the OG Lunas & Not Forgotten. They can now two tap players inside of PvP if you get two precision kills without missing a headshot
That explains why ace was doing really well for me despite not being a hand cannon guy
You're doing God's work.
Yay slight buff to ticcus 🥹
lucky pants testing is always fun
GOD FORBID A GUARDIAN FEELS OVERPOWERED - Quicksilver
hi cal somewhat helps the flinch nerf for many things imo
I think with the context of the other breech GLs, It's probably fair that Mountaintop can one shot. Hoping they revisit that
They did say when they revealed Mountaintop that they were nerfing it to not oneshot in pvp so we weren't returning to recluse/mountaintop meta
Honestly, ive been running an arc warlock with chromatic fire, last word and indebted kindness in PvE. Last word shreds on crits in onslaught, which leads to AoE blinding explosions, and when amplified indebted kindness also causes AoE blinding explosions with Spark of Beacons for when you get the beefier and more dense waves. Really makes me wish bungie would make more kinetic weapon focused exotics.... chromatic fire is literally the only one.
I’m already thinking final shape and the titans shield reflect that uses class ability energy the perk energy transfer is going to have to be on my sword, there’s a reason it’s the top perk on the other half. Gotta be ready to void yeet everything
1. I still say The Witness or other bosses in TFS raid are going to be coded as constructs and deconstruct is gunna be huge for certain encounter 2. I’ve been able to get Whisper to hold 33 rounds 👀