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Hate to tell you this but those mustangs are going for 16k where i live,you kinda got suckered,i mean 43k you could have bought a shelby m8,hell you could have bought a WRX sti,but thats my opinion bud
I think I would take the six cylinder even though it makes less power if I absolutely had to get a base model mustang or Camaro for that matter. At least it would sound slightly better. But I sure as hell would not put a loud exhaust on it either way. I've heard a turbo mustang with the more basic exhaust on it, and it sounds better than this You can hear a little bit of turbo whistle but that's about it. I think this car might have a special exhaust on it it had quad outputs on the back I don't think that's what you get in the more base model turbo 4. Other than the exhaust sound it certainly is quick enough.
Stirling Moss A Camaro 2SS starts at 44k according to the website. The 1LE package is 7k. You either got it used or they were giving the car away. That does not count lol.
I drove an Ecoboost convertible rental car this summer. It's a lot of fun. And it has a surprising amount of get up and go for a 4 cylinder. But you're right, that 10 speed auto transmission is all over the place. I'm sure it's all for gas mileage and the low 0-60 time, but it's a bit of a pain in the ass to drive on a daily basis in town because it doesn't downshift fast enough. You have to use the paddles to get it to do what you want it to do.
Thank you for the drive. I appreciate it. First the transmission. This car with auto tranny was mainly designed for daily drive and fuel efficiency in mind. I'm not surprised one bit that it isn't that great in sport mode. If you're in sport mode and blasting back roads, this car should be in manual using the paddle shifters for performance driving. I guarantee that you can shift the car much better than it can shift itself when burning back roads. I owned a MB SLC300, 4 cyl, auto. and it's basically the same type of setup. In manual mode I could hold gears around corners and shift myself on the straights much better than the car could do it itself., for highway driving leave it in comfort or normal and let it do its thing. 2nd is the sound. the 4 cyl gives the driver and passenger decent thrill without alerting every cop within a mile of your presence which is great for tooling back roads. 3rd is the engine.. holy shit does this car freakin fly, 20 yrs ago a 4 cyl couldn't get out of its own way and now look at what Ford has done, very freakin fast pony car, it flat out hauls ass and handles like a dream. I'm not saying it's better than a GT, I'm saying it serves a role. It's for owning back roads on a weekend morning or daily driving to work without breaking the bank or losing your license. If you have a half hour commute or longer there's a good chance you drive partial highway and the rest back road. This car gives you the ability to have some fun every day on the way to and from work and then mash back roads on the weekend. I'd take one in convertible and put it through it's paces every day but I wouldn't buy it new, let someone else take the depreciation hit and get one still under warranty. Great car, thanx for the vid
I just purchased a 21 GT Base with the technology package and blackout package, negociated down to 37k, I could never imagine spending more than that on an ecoboost
Dang, the speedo refresh rate is really good. It actually shows each number at a time unlike most other digital speedos that will skip 3-5 numbers because it doesn't show fast enough refresh. That's about the only thing that's good about the car though.
The High performance pack is a rip off and here are the reasons why 1. It weighs in at 3638lbs the gt is only 67lbs more at 3705 lbs if you got a base ecoboost it weighs 3532lbs which is a 106lbs difference 2. You can get a base gt with the performance pack for the same price or less. And the fact you could get a base ecoboost for 25k in some places means you could do about 17k worth of mods and be a lot faster over all. 3. The gas mileage it gets isn’t much better than a gt
its not a rip off, i just bought the HPP Ecoboost mustang wih the 6 speed in january for 32k, i just dont have the handling package. 0-60 in 4,6-4.7 seconds, vs 5.3-5.4 in the regular ecoboost. plus the HPP ecoboost has the same governed top speed of 155 as the GT. the regular ecoboost doesnt. im very happy with my decision in what i bought, driving the regular ecoboost for a while, (brother has one) than driving the HPP one i can definetly feel the difference. i didnt need the V8 nor needed it and absoltely love my mustang, i could care less what anyone thinks.
Zach if you happy with it good for you your money your choice all I’m trying to say here is there are other more cheaper options for those who are looking at getting a ecoboost mustang. Also the manual hpp might do 0-60 in 5.3 sec no way that the standard could do that the auto hpps barely break 5 sec
Porsche 4 cylinder engines right now are Boxer-4's, not an inline 4 in this motor. You'll get completely different sounds out of either engine (I can already tell someone's gonna say cylinder firing order and header length play a role, I know)
Yeah I agree, and you can may 4-cylinder engines sound good. They do this in motorcycles. You can do what they call a cross-plane crank. Changes the firing order and has a much deeper rumble they actually sound a bit like a V8. You can look at the Yamaha r1. some years of that had a cross plane crank and they sound absolutely fantastic. Triumph does a good job with three cylinder engines using the same trick. Pick a better firing order and you get a much better exhaust note.
Man you have such a soothing voice, I hope you continue to work in automotive space becuase I love watching your videos, not only becuase they are fun to watch, but they are so informative!
Recently watched 2 reviews of this car (obviously 2 different press cars based on color and interior options) and they were both automatics - get your head out Ford. You can have one manual in the press fleet... Those criticizing this car don't really realize that the Challenger is more or less the last "MUSCLE CAR" while the Mustang and Camaro are essentially sports cars. This HPP EcoBoost would be a blast on a winding back road (with the manual) but obviously wasn't designed to win drag races. If you add the HPP to a base EcoBoost coupe and don't go crazy with the options this isn't a bad value. It would still spank most of the cars I lusted after during my misspent youth of the late 80s - early 90s.
I'm gonna just let you know something The manual in the new gen mustangs is absolute dogwater (I've driven/owned two) It's an unreliable, muddy trans and the 10 speed is by far the better option. Even on back roads the 10 speed is a perfect choice compared to the manual. So trust me, they don't want the grenade of a manual transmission that the mustang has in their press car fleet
i just bought the 2020 HPP ecoboost mustang with the 6 speed in january, its quick as hell and i love it. out the door for $32k, i didnt get the handling package, just a base HPP ecoboost. i didnt need the v8 and i do not regret my purchase at all.
I can't look past the droopy headlights they've added since 2018. They make the whole front end look like it's so sad. The really sharp and aggressive looking headlights on the GT350/500 looks so much more like a mustang should
I was beyond impressed with the 10spd In my friends GT. There’s no denying it’s much much faster than the fragile (practically made of glass) MT82 6spd trans. The GT needs the bullet proof t56 trans
Ok, so having been driving these cars for a few years now. If you put your foot down, dont immediately back off, the transmission in normal is going to shift to the highest gear possible bc that is the fuel efficient mode. with sport mode the car thinks you are actually going to be hammer down so it forces the transmission to shift down quicker and shift into lower gears more. all of your problems with the transmission would be fixed by keeping your foot down, not accelerating 3 mph at max throttle then letting off. other than that yes the GT is more fun, this car is if you want great fuel econ while you blast through back roads. these 4 cylinders are super fun if you know how to open them up and not be afraid of them.
the only reason i would get an eco boost premium over the gt would be the fuel economy. yes the gt has more hp and is a little louder and more fun the drive, but in the end i don’t want to refill gas ever 2 weeks.
1:55 and a ton of space if you ever have to work on this thing. as a current minivan owner, just looking at how easy that fanbelt is to get to... sooo nice.
Definitely. You are right. Chevy used to have a 9 speed and ford made the recent but shitty 10 speed but everyone is switching to an 8 speed based off of the German made zf8.
@@user-ml7ly6uc1c You're buying a Mustang for it's characteristics.... It should drive/feel like a Mustang. V8 all the way bro 💪🏽. One day you might plan to put a new set of pipes on it. I'm sure that 4 cylinder would be a let down
ONLY $43k for that BRAND NEW Mustang full option ??!! Dude I can't believe how cheap cars are in the US. Plus you don't get any car tax. Yet I still see people complaining in the comments that it's expensive... wtf ?! I wish I lived in the US just for cars. You don't even get a high mileage used Ecoboost Mustang with 0 option from 2015 for that price where I live.
@@riseabove3082 Oh ok. But still, 9% is absolutely nothing. Where I live it's 21% on top of the car price + a massive tax of thousands of dollars to get your license plate registration + another tax for your license plate (wtf) + a eco tax of a few hundred dollars + a tax to be able to ride on the roads of a few hundred / thousands of dollars that you must pay every year in order to use your car on the road (wtf). Pure theft. How much is the annual license tax that you were talking about in the US ?
7:58 I was reading the comments and I thought it sounded like a lawn mower, nothing against the 4 cil tho, it makes more HP than the v6, and sound is not bad for the engine size.
in usa people are so obsessed with V8, i get it, it sound good, it has cool character, but i am amazed by this engine, only 4 cyl and it makes 300HP+ and nice torque. it's lighter and has better balance than V8. I would like better brakes and bit more weight savings, if this car weighed only 1400-1450KG it would be a great sportscar/GT car
@@TobySimone I drive an EcoBoost because insurance purposes but I got my 2017 EcoBoost premium for only 21k with only 4k miles and I'm 21 so I wanna wait a year or 2 then definitely getting a GT
@American Man that’s great and all but you have no idea what millennials like in a car if you think we don’t appreciate a good V8. Stop generalizing, it makes you look dumb. My friends who aren’t into cars like the sound of a V8 even if they don’t know what it is.
I'm not sure what you mean about not as much character as the V8, it's literally the same car with a different engine. Take the badges off both cars and don't start either one, you can't tell the difference. Add the Magneride and handling package on the EcoBoost and go head to head on the track vs. the GT and it's 2.4 seconds faster on the track in the test I saw, and both have 155 mph top speeds from the factory so you're not giving all that much up with the EcoBoost, and with a tune and a few upgrades it will walk the stock GT
Right around when this came out I bought my eco stang! Since then the head gasket blew with no mods done to the car! There you have it! Engines are trsh TSB to prove it
In drive the transmission almost acted like a CVT in some scenarios when shifting up at slow speeds. Shame, manual is definitely the way to go! Also a bit too expensive for the 4 cylinder Mustang
Was in one last night as a passenger.... 4 cylinder turbo..... had me holding on lol
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It must just be the video throwing me off bro. My ‘15 passat 1.8t with apr stage 1 seems as fast and angry. I’ll have to drive one of these. I bet the 2.3 is better than conveyed here.
Just add a cut out on the exhaust to hear the turbo whine and quicker spool up. Nitrous on a small turbo car is your friend a wet 50 shot at 4k does the trick for those track days.
That's a propac you're driving, so it has a 3.55 rear end thus it can get a Ford pro tune which will give it 350 horsepower with 426 pound feet of torque just like the GT case solved.
I just finished renting one. For 90% of drivers its more than enough and you have power in every gear due to the low end torque.You can honestly keep it in 10th gear and pass people no problem. Also averaged 25mpg.(not bad for 310hp) But if i had to choose im getting the GT
In the Camaro SS I drove, I thought it was fantastic. But in this car, in the footage it doesn't even look/sound like the same transmission, especially with that delay on the paddle shifters.
The car is fun, but if your going to drive it. You should put the setup in track mode, then all of your sound, driving parameters work great and hold the gears longer.
The V-8 is the way to go. Nothing sounds better. Forty three thousand price tag seems extremely high for a turbo four banger. Id rather get a two year old low milage GT.
I think 10 speeds is good, but the fact that u were almost at 2000 rpm going 60 in top gear is a problem, they make the first 3 gears too long and the last 3 too short
Why do people bother commenting and reviewing on stock cars? For a measley $500, who wouldnt get a simple tune? You tune this thing and its completely different
After watching you drive the V8 Convertible with the 6-Speed Manual a few weeks ago, this doesn't quite do it for me lol. It's still a fun car, but go get the GT instead. The price of this vehicle is crazy for $43k. For that same price and in some cases even less, you can get a new GT with PP1 and a Manual on it... the choice is clear to me like you said Topher, I'd rather get the GT. Which is what I did. Also I feel like the 10-Speed is hunting for way too many gears in this thing, yikes.
All of the mustangs I have owned have had either 8 or 6-cylinder engines. NO 4-bangers for me EVER. My 2014 is a six-cylinder engine but has decent acceleration. Since I am an old dude now will not be drag racing anyway.
Primarily because I prefer a naturally aspirated engine’s sound and linear powerband. And that Alpha chassis is incredible when hustled on a track or a good road
Wow, this thing kinda actually gripped in the launch. Im so confused cause my 5.0 spins in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd no problem when doing a launch. I also have the 10 speed and its not awful, when it comes to flooring it, its a great transmission and when it comes to shifting yourself with the paddles its also pretty good, but when you're just driving it can be odd sometimes.
What people don't know is this gets forged internals and a bigger turbo from the focus rs. That motor has made over 500whp on stock turbo which is nuts 😂not hard at all to make 400+whp in this motor in a lighter car, really an auto cross and small technical track weapon. The regular 10speed ecoboost has gone mid 11s jn the quarter without going nuts on stock turbo so assume pushing it on some slicks you can have a pretty cheap 10second car! Really not much out there under 40 that can do that til we see the new z😏
I have the 10 speed gt and I agree it's all over the place. I can never predict an upshift or downshift. Mine shift hard on sport mode. I hope that's normal lol.
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Hate to tell you this but those mustangs are going for 16k where i live,you kinda got suckered,i mean 43k you could have bought a shelby m8,hell you could have bought a WRX sti,but thats my opinion bud
You basically went to olive garden,ordered the tour of Italy,and then filled up on bread,like,to the brim fill up on bread
*litterally nobody would expect a 4cyl in that thing*
perhaps even less would expect it in the gmc sierra/ chevy c1500 :)
@@ChuddleBuggy Eh
@@ChuddleBuggy ikr, shame
lmao
exactly it’s funny when I GAP a 392 and they ask what is it and I say a 4 BANGER !! 😂😂
I can't be the only one who thinks it doesn't sound too bad, right?
Doesn’t sound bad...just doesn’t sound right.
It sounds fun. The GT sounds aggressive.
Tilan De Costa lol makes sense
It also might not sound as aggressive because it’s from the inside perspective outside perspective may be a bit better
@Keonwoo Kim It's not fake, its just enhanced through the speakers.
My mind likes the HP and torque figures but my ears and heart just can’t accept the sound
minischnauze13 A Mustang with a 4 cylinder engine is sacreligious.
At a whopping $44k. Wow.
The sad truth
I think I would take the six cylinder even though it makes less power if I absolutely had to get a base model mustang or Camaro for that matter. At least it would sound slightly better. But I sure as hell would not put a loud exhaust on it either way. I've heard a turbo mustang with the more basic exhaust on it, and it sounds better than this You can hear a little bit of turbo whistle but that's about it. I think this car might have a special exhaust on it it had quad outputs on the back I don't think that's what you get in the more base model turbo 4. Other than the exhaust sound it certainly is quick enough.
The sound seems kinda fake.
Love the car, but 43k it too much. Not dissing the 4 banger, its a great engine (for a 4cyl) but for 43k you can get ALOT of other good vehicles
I believe you dont have 2 click every dam box lol. Or do you?.hmm...
Is it a great engine? Maybe in 2020 form but not when it was first launched in the Focus RS that's for sure lol
43k is fully loaded lol. You can’t find anything with this power and this many features for 43k. If you can, let me know
Treigh Washington I got a fully loaded Camaro SS 1le for 43k lol
Stirling Moss A Camaro 2SS starts at 44k according to the website. The 1LE package is 7k. You either got it used or they were giving the car away. That does not count lol.
The gtr at the beginning tho
lol wondering if that was just a coincidence
Doesn’t Ford use a revoknuckle suspension though?
And I could get a used GTR for $43k
@@mikehh8020 yeah a salvaged one xD
He said this thing is quite the weapon on the street he’s not lying 😂
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It really is people want them loud GT's and always get caught by cops.
They don’t have solid rear axles anymore, now hellcats are far more of the crowd killers
😂🤣😂😅😅😅
@@imscooby1926 let my friend drive my brand new mustang i bought last mth and he spun out and totaled it 🤦🏻♂️
I drove an Ecoboost convertible rental car this summer. It's a lot of fun. And it has a surprising amount of get up and go for a 4 cylinder. But you're right, that 10 speed auto transmission is all over the place. I'm sure it's all for gas mileage and the low 0-60 time, but it's a bit of a pain in the ass to drive on a daily basis in town because it doesn't downshift fast enough. You have to use the paddles to get it to do what you want it to do.
At that price tag, I'd rather get a GT premium
Exactly.
I’ll pay for a lil more in gas for 4 more cylinders and much better sound than this . Nice car forsure. But to expensive
And adding another 10 thousand to the price tag isn't too expensive?
Idk man, some people have different expectations. A lot of us want the GT for hoonigan shenanigans, the others just want the look of the car.
Just buy the non performance one with 10 speed auto transmission. It cost 30k
They should make an ecoboost GT v8
This thing hunts for gears like Elmer Fudd
The absolute worst trait of modern cars is the gear hunting.
The thing sounds like a damn cvt
Elmer Fudd is ur mum
Test drive a Tacoma, set cruise control on the highway and watch it hunt like crazy
@@officialyasir yea their 5th and 6th gear are actually high drive gears
10 speeds are amazing on V8's. My buddy has a 10A 2019 GT and it is just beautiful. You can literally hit 130 in 4th gear
But that’s the thing...it’s not a v8😂
I hit 140 in 4th gear of my manual. It's not really about the speed, its about how fast you get to the speed. That's what the 10A is all about
I used to be a die hard manual fan until I had to sit in bumper to bumper traffic every day after work.
$43.6k?!? That's SS 1LE territory.
SS 1LE please
20k cad ss lol
Bruh u can get a gt mustang less then 30k
@@xenovsgarage for high mileage you could
1LE Hell Yeah Thanks For The Reminder
Thank you for the drive. I appreciate it.
First the transmission. This car with auto tranny was mainly designed for daily drive and fuel efficiency in mind. I'm not surprised one bit that it isn't that great in sport mode. If you're in sport mode and blasting back roads, this car should be in manual using the paddle shifters for performance driving.
I guarantee that you can shift the car much better than it can shift itself when burning back roads. I owned a MB SLC300, 4 cyl, auto. and it's basically the same type of setup. In manual mode I could hold gears around corners and shift myself on the straights much better than the car could do it itself., for highway driving leave it in comfort or normal and let it do its thing.
2nd is the sound. the 4 cyl gives the driver and passenger decent thrill without alerting every cop within a mile of your presence which is great for tooling back roads.
3rd is the engine.. holy shit does this car freakin fly, 20 yrs ago a 4 cyl couldn't get out of its own way and now look at what Ford has done, very freakin fast pony car, it flat out hauls ass and handles like a dream. I'm not saying it's better than a GT, I'm saying it serves a role. It's for owning back roads on a weekend morning or daily driving to work without breaking the bank or losing your license. If you have a half hour commute or longer there's a good chance you drive partial highway and the rest back road. This car gives you the ability to have some fun every day on the way to and from work and then mash back roads on the weekend.
I'd take one in convertible and put it through it's paces every day but I wouldn't buy it new, let someone else take the depreciation hit and get one still under warranty. Great car, thanx for the vid
sounds like an early 2000’s camry with a hole in the exhaust. F
I just purchased a brand new 2020 GT Premium in velocity blue with a blackout package for 42.5. No way should a 4 cylinder run you 43..
I just purchased a 21 GT Base with the technology package and blackout package, negociated down to 37k, I could never imagine spending more than that on an ecoboost
@@ghafooryrahim2233344 yup people out here getting fleeced
Sounds like a CVT with all those gears
Exactly what I thought lol... not fitting for Mustang at all
That's unfortunately what they were aiming for. CVT's can only handle so much power so they tried an automatic with as many gears as possible.
@@V1ralB1ack thats not what they were aiming for. lmao
@@ZACH_95_ Oh. What were they aiming for?
@@V1ralB1ack NOT A CVT. LMAO
Can you hear the turbo whistle though?
Since getting my 2.7L F-150, I've become a total turbo fanboy and much more open to the 4-cylinder mustang.
Your POV videos are so unique. And you go over everything too.
Dang, the speedo refresh rate is really good. It actually shows each number at a time unlike most other digital speedos that will skip 3-5 numbers because it doesn't show fast enough refresh. That's about the only thing that's good about the car though.
FCA has been doing this for a long time
You can’t have the words eco and high-performance in the same sentence. I’m calling the police.
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bwahahaha you go for it buddy lol!
Ford GT?
Big turbo EcoBoost is the only way
Laughs in Honda crv
The High performance pack is a rip off and here are the reasons why
1. It weighs in at 3638lbs the gt is only 67lbs more at 3705 lbs if you got a base ecoboost it weighs 3532lbs which is a 106lbs difference
2. You can get a base gt with the performance pack for the same price or less. And the fact you could get a base ecoboost for 25k in some places means you could do about 17k worth of mods and be a lot faster over all.
3. The gas mileage it gets isn’t much better than a gt
Buy a used gt with 4K miles for 35k instead
@@Fast4.6 yeah but good luck finding one with desirable options/color and a stealership that wont tack on 5k of fees.
its not a rip off, i just bought the HPP Ecoboost mustang wih the 6 speed in january for 32k, i just dont have the handling package. 0-60 in 4,6-4.7 seconds, vs 5.3-5.4 in the regular ecoboost. plus the HPP ecoboost has the same governed top speed of 155 as the GT. the regular ecoboost doesnt. im very happy with my decision in what i bought, driving the regular ecoboost for a while, (brother has one) than driving the HPP one i can definetly feel the difference. i didnt need the V8 nor needed it and absoltely love my mustang, i could care less what anyone thinks.
Zach if you happy with it good for you your money your choice all I’m trying to say here is there are other more cheaper options for those who are looking at getting a ecoboost mustang. Also the manual hpp might do 0-60 in 5.3 sec no way that the standard could do that the auto hpps barely break 5 sec
@@shadowhawk5814 And that's you're opinion :) have a great day my friend!
That engine note sounds like an angry sewing machine... ugh. I know it's a 4 cyl, but Porsche can make it sound half way decent. Why can't Ford?
Porsche 4 cylinder engines right now are Boxer-4's, not an inline 4 in this motor. You'll get completely different sounds out of either engine (I can already tell someone's gonna say cylinder firing order and header length play a role, I know)
Saje B still tho, boxer is much more different than inline
@@JM00914 that's literally what I said
Yeah I agree, and you can may 4-cylinder engines sound good. They do this in motorcycles. You can do what they call a cross-plane crank. Changes the firing order and has a much deeper rumble they actually sound a bit like a V8. You can look at the Yamaha r1. some years of that had a cross plane crank and they sound absolutely fantastic.
Triumph does a good job with three cylinder engines using the same trick. Pick a better firing order and you get a much better exhaust note.
because its a ford not a porsche.
The GTR just rolling by at 30 seconds in??
U remind me of Paul god damn it
Hope he is in heaven 😭💖
I wonder if it's another car the Winding Road team is reviewing
@@aziz7156 Right?
@@jamesj5565 Yep.
@@kylechellino2579 wdym lol
Man you have such a soothing voice, I hope you continue to work in automotive space becuase I love watching your videos, not only becuase they are fun to watch, but they are so informative!
If you're going to get an ecoboost with a perf pack, you may as well go with the V8 and gt the power AND the sound!
I know I'm late to this, but the 10R80 takes about 2-300 miles to learn your driving habits. Its a different transmission after it learns.
Just imagine if they would've just kept the 3.7 and added more performance to it.
Recently watched 2 reviews of this car (obviously 2 different press cars based on color and interior options) and they were both automatics - get your head out Ford. You can have one manual in the press fleet...
Those criticizing this car don't really realize that the Challenger is more or less the last "MUSCLE CAR" while the Mustang and Camaro are essentially sports cars. This HPP EcoBoost would be a blast on a winding back road (with the manual) but obviously wasn't designed to win drag races.
If you add the HPP to a base EcoBoost coupe and don't go crazy with the options this isn't a bad value. It would still spank most of the cars I lusted after during my misspent youth of the late 80s - early 90s.
I'm gonna just let you know something
The manual in the new gen mustangs is absolute dogwater (I've driven/owned two)
It's an unreliable, muddy trans and the 10 speed is by far the better option. Even on back roads the 10 speed is a perfect choice compared to the manual. So trust me, they don't want the grenade of a manual transmission that the mustang has in their press car fleet
i just bought the 2020 HPP ecoboost mustang with the 6 speed in january, its quick as hell and i love it. out the door for $32k, i didnt get the handling package, just a base HPP ecoboost. i didnt need the v8 and i do not regret my purchase at all.
At 2k RPM, it literally sounds just like my dad’s old Toro Super Recycler mower 😂
My roommate just bought a 2020 GT Premium Performance Pack for $45k. Unfortunately I don't see this as being a good value.
Exactly. The ecoboost don’t hold value either. In Michigan you can snag these used with under 20k miles very reasonable
dumb purchase considering he doesn't even have money for a house
@@darkproject3368 Ouch!
Or maybe he doesn't want a house? I'd rather be car poor than house poor. And I am a homeowner.
@@ARentz07 Well then why does he need a roommate?
@@darkproject3368 Maybe he doesn't "need" a roommate? Idk whatever, people make weird choices sometimes.
I can't look past the droopy headlights they've added since 2018. They make the whole front end look like it's so sad. The really sharp and aggressive looking headlights on the GT350/500 looks so much more like a mustang should
The in-ear binaural mics picked up the engine sound perfectly, "MooooOOOOooOOOOOooOOOO" never sounded so clear ever before!
Electronic mic picks up the electronic engine noise pretty well 👌
Love mustangs, I absolutely love ‘em. 43k is too much for a 4. I’d spend way less on a 2018 with the 10 speed. Sorry Ford, you lost me on this one.
The 10R80 in my GT works magnificently...especially in track mode!
I was beyond impressed with the 10spd In my friends GT. There’s no denying it’s much much faster than the fragile (practically made of glass) MT82 6spd trans. The GT needs the bullet proof t56 trans
Ok, so having been driving these cars for a few years now. If you put your foot down, dont immediately back off, the transmission in normal is going to shift to the highest gear possible bc that is the fuel efficient mode. with sport mode the car thinks you are actually going to be hammer down so it forces the transmission to shift down quicker and shift into lower gears more. all of your problems with the transmission would be fixed by keeping your foot down, not accelerating 3 mph at max throttle then letting off. other than that yes the GT is more fun, this car is if you want great fuel econ while you blast through back roads. these 4 cylinders are super fun if you know how to open them up and not be afraid of them.
dude the 10 speed transmission is designed to hold strong torque curves at low rpms while saving gas.. its literally a smart transmission lol
That price is just outrageous for a 4 cylinder mustang to me
EVAN BARLOW lol right
@EVAN BARLOW In the 80s they sold a 2.3 Turbo mustang :lol:
EVAN BARLOW it makes sense at like 25k
@@kylemontano228 Those cars lose 10K of value after the first payment.
alb12345672 I was thinking about getting a new one but u can get one for 25k with like 20k miles
Not sure how comparable is this to real life, but I felt it shifts like a CVT
I can’t believe I had to scroll this far to finally see someone mention this
That blinker noise is satisfying
the only reason i would get an eco boost premium over the gt would be the fuel economy. yes the gt has more hp and is a little louder and more fun the drive, but in the end i don’t want to refill gas ever 2 weeks.
1:55 and a ton of space if you ever have to work on this thing. as a current minivan owner, just looking at how easy that fanbelt is to get to... sooo nice.
I feel like 8 speed transmissions should
be the legal limit for auto makers. 😄
Definitely. You are right. Chevy used to have a 9 speed and ford made the recent but shitty 10 speed but everyone is switching to an 8 speed based off of the German made zf8.
I’m unable to decide whether I should go for V8 or ecoboost. Ecoboost boosts the economy and V8 boosts the power.
@@user-ml7ly6uc1c You're buying a Mustang for it's characteristics.... It should drive/feel like a Mustang. V8 all the way bro 💪🏽. One day you might plan to put a new set of pipes on it. I'm sure that 4 cylinder would be a let down
Karreil2525 My heart is stuck at the V8 but my mind says where would I put down its power? Canada has a speed limit of 130 kmph all over the place
@@user-ml7ly6uc1c I feel your pain
I have a 2018 standard package and I’m absolutely in love with it.
ONLY $43k for that BRAND NEW Mustang full option ??!! Dude I can't believe how cheap cars are in the US. Plus you don't get any car tax. Yet I still see people complaining in the comments that it's expensive... wtf ?! I wish I lived in the US just for cars. You don't even get a high mileage used Ecoboost Mustang with 0 option from 2015 for that price where I live.
WRONG! You pay a car sales tax somewhere around 9% on the price of the car plus the annual license tax.
@@riseabove3082 Oh ok. But still, 9% is absolutely nothing. Where I live it's 21% on top of the car price + a massive tax of thousands of dollars to get your license plate registration + another tax for your license plate (wtf) + a eco tax of a few hundred dollars + a tax to be able to ride on the roads of a few hundred / thousands of dollars that you must pay every year in order to use your car on the road (wtf). Pure theft. How much is the annual license tax that you were talking about in the US ?
My drive to work is a 50 miles daily trip, I thought a mustang was out of the question until this thing showed up
7:58 I was reading the comments and I thought it sounded like a lawn mower, nothing against the 4 cil tho, it makes more HP than the v6, and sound is not bad for the engine size.
in usa people are so obsessed with V8, i get it, it sound good, it has cool character, but i am amazed by this engine, only 4 cyl and it makes 300HP+ and nice torque.
it's lighter and has better balance than V8.
I would like better brakes and bit more weight savings, if this car weighed only 1400-1450KG it would be a great sportscar/GT car
43k????? I might as well get the GT and call it a day
I don't understand who Ford is targeting with a 43k 4 cylinder turbocharged car. With the GT starting at 35k, this car seems like a lost cause.
@American Man Who doesn't like the growl of a v8? Plus the fuel economy is about the same. Seems like a no brainer to me!
@American Man You say that like you actually know what millennials like in a car. None of my friends would pick an Ecoboost over the GT.
@@TobySimone I drive an EcoBoost because insurance purposes but I got my 2017 EcoBoost premium for only 21k with only 4k miles and I'm 21 so I wanna wait a year or 2 then definitely getting a GT
@American Man that’s great and all but you have no idea what millennials like in a car if you think we don’t appreciate a good V8. Stop generalizing, it makes you look dumb. My friends who aren’t into cars like the sound of a V8 even if they don’t know what it is.
i think the Mustang Ecoboost is a good deal. Is a Muscle Car, with low consumption and 300hp (if i'm not wrong)
10 speeds is way to much!
Should I get this car I’m 4”11 16 and looking for a new car if not what type of car is best?
Anybody?
Great video as always. Tedward, yourself and the WRM channel all have great content.
I'm not sure what you mean about not as much character as the V8, it's literally the same car with a different engine. Take the badges off both cars and don't start either one, you can't tell the difference. Add the Magneride and handling package on the EcoBoost and go head to head on the track vs. the GT and it's 2.4 seconds faster on the track in the test I saw, and both have 155 mph top speeds from the factory so you're not giving all that much up with the EcoBoost, and with a tune and a few upgrades it will walk the stock GT
I’m manifesting it…I will have this car by 2023
I have one of these and let me tell y’all sounds way better in person
Right around when this came out I bought my eco stang! Since then the head gasket blew with no mods done to the car! There you have it! Engines are trsh TSB to prove it
In drive the transmission almost acted like a CVT in some scenarios when shifting up at slow speeds. Shame, manual is definitely the way to go! Also a bit too expensive for the 4 cylinder Mustang
Was in one last night as a passenger.... 4 cylinder turbo..... had me holding on lol
It must just be the video throwing me off bro. My ‘15 passat 1.8t with apr stage 1 seems as fast and angry. I’ll have to drive one of these. I bet the 2.3 is better than conveyed here.
Just add a cut out on the exhaust to hear the turbo whine and quicker spool up.
Nitrous on a small turbo car is your friend
a wet 50 shot at 4k does the trick for those track days.
That's a propac you're driving, so it has a 3.55 rear end thus it can get a Ford pro tune which will give it 350 horsepower with 426 pound feet of torque just like the GT case solved.
And then at 0:35 🤣🤣 a blue Nissan GTR just FUMBLES around like “haaa.. I unintentionally stole all the attention”
Looks fun for what it is. Cost is a bit of a downer for this setup, however let’s see what others in the segment will be doing.
I just finished renting one. For 90% of drivers its more than enough and you have power in every gear due to the low end torque.You can honestly keep it in 10th gear and pass people no problem. Also averaged 25mpg.(not bad for 310hp) But if i had to choose im getting the GT
10speed is too much. nothing wrong with 7 or 8
In the Camaro SS I drove, I thought it was fantastic. But in this car, in the footage it doesn't even look/sound like the same transmission, especially with that delay on the paddle shifters.
Would you be interested in a 1986 Mustang SVO with the 2.3 turbo? pretty much the OG ecoboost
23 minutes and 23 seconds for the 2.3 liter car? Noice
Oh man, didn’t even notice that. Freaky!
I firmly believe that 6 gears is plenty. You just need to not gear it like a Tacoma. You need to gear it like Honda.
Mazda sticks with 6 speeds and they work great while returning great mpg
@@btbbelesky And their also slowwwwwww as ..uck. Mazda's have weird throttle response - as in slow.
The car is fun, but if your going to drive it. You should put the setup in track mode, then all of your sound, driving parameters work great and hold the gears longer.
It blows my mind how much these cars are selling for... cool cars ... but $41k for a 4 cylinder mustang... just sounds insane.
The V-8 is the way to go. Nothing sounds better. Forty three thousand price tag seems extremely high for a turbo four banger. Id rather get a two year old low milage GT.
Love this guy
It's good for what it is, but at the end of the day, the 5.0 is the car you want, the 4-cylinder that you settle for.
Fun street cars ecos put in the work fun Rwd car especially the 10 speed mines pushing 384 torque to the wheels going 400 with few more mods
I think 10 speeds is good, but the fact that u were almost at 2000 rpm going 60 in top gear is a problem, they make the first 3 gears too long and the last 3 too short
Not defending it but he was doing 80mph in 10th gear at like 2100rpm, not 60mph.
If you buy the Ecoboost with a Manual you'll have no complaints 👍
I’m sure much of that interior sound is piped in.
Why do people bother commenting and reviewing on stock cars? For a measley $500, who wouldnt get a simple tune? You tune this thing and its completely different
For 43 grand you can get a base 5.0 and make it full bolt on and that thing will go like hell.
I wanna watch this video all day
I have this motor in the ranger great truck unbelievable how much pull it has
I also have this drive train in my 20 Ranger.
The tranny shifts buttery smooth, since I did some bolt on modifications. Woke it up, too.
Because of the value decrease you can buy one today for 20-25k, which is pretty good. And for europeans this is much reasonable than the gt version.
First upgrade "get the manual". First chuckle I had today. Oddly I'd consider this along with a BRZ though I know they're very different.
I test drove both, the mustang felt too heavy and actually was boring compared to the brz even though it had more power
After watching you drive the V8 Convertible with the 6-Speed Manual a few weeks ago, this doesn't quite do it for me lol. It's still a fun car, but go get the GT instead. The price of this vehicle is crazy for $43k. For that same price and in some cases even less, you can get a new GT with PP1 and a Manual on it... the choice is clear to me like you said Topher, I'd rather get the GT. Which is what I did.
Also I feel like the 10-Speed is hunting for way too many gears in this thing, yikes.
All of the mustangs I have owned have had either 8 or 6-cylinder engines. NO 4-bangers for me EVER. My 2014 is a six-cylinder engine but has decent acceleration. Since I am an old dude now will not be drag racing anyway.
The badge on the truck lid looks hideous
Topher checking out the GTR passing by as he talks about the car
Cool car and I’m glad Ford gave it to us, but I’d go with a V6 Camaro 1LE personally
why
Primarily because I prefer a naturally aspirated engine’s sound and linear powerband. And that Alpha chassis is incredible when hustled on a track or a good road
no one is talking about the nissan gtr that passed
Wow, this thing kinda actually gripped in the launch. Im so confused cause my 5.0 spins in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd no problem when doing a launch. I also have the 10 speed and its not awful, when it comes to flooring it, its a great transmission and when it comes to shifting yourself with the paddles its also pretty good, but when you're just driving it can be odd sometimes.
It spins because you substantially more power and torque from the v8
What people don't know is this gets forged internals and a bigger turbo from the focus rs. That motor has made over 500whp on stock turbo which is nuts 😂not hard at all to make 400+whp in this motor in a lighter car, really an auto cross and small technical track weapon. The regular 10speed ecoboost has gone mid 11s jn the quarter without going nuts on stock turbo so assume pushing it on some slicks you can have a pretty cheap 10second car! Really not much out there under 40 that can do that til we see the new z😏
The paddles help make it feel like a manual and make the 10 speed not all over the place
How would you compare the driving experience to a 2020 GTI? It was between this car and a GTI for me.
Germans- Luxurious, expensive, fake exhaust ( except BMWs) was and unreliable
Ford- Raw interior, Affordable, Elegant, Reliable and Powerful
I have the 10 speed gt and I agree it's all over the place. I can never predict an upshift or downshift. Mine shift hard on sport mode. I hope that's normal lol.
I have a 10 speed eco - it is pretty much all over. I keep it in normal mode unless I’m mashing the gas. Ecoboosts are fun though.
I just bought the convertible and it’s really awesome
to think cars like that used to have 4 speed v8's now 10 speed auto 4 cylinders wow times have changed
The 10 speed sounds pretty close to a CVT. The transmission is mainly for fuel efficiency though. And yes I know I’m stating the obvious.
Same price as a brand new Camaro SS 1LE Track Pkg 6.2L V8 6MT. Let that sink in.
Wait 40k I've been shopping around and seeing these in the mid 20s under 50,000 miles that price depreciation is crazy