@tammymonette8371Please explain " why " he needs to explain what he purchases with his own money? 🤔 Tons of people including politicians own property in other countries, especially warm locations . He does live in Canada you know so many people have homes south of the border.
This was a fabulous interview with great questions being asked and equally great and honest responses from Maxime Bernier. I have read through the People’s Party of Canada’s entire platform and I find them very reasonable and well thought out. PPC certainly deserves to be a legitimate political party that can provide an alternative political solution to Canada’s unique challenges. I encourage everyone to read their platform with an open mind and decide for themselves.
Thank you for this podcast. It’s important to listen to everyone in the society and not cancel people just because what they say is politically incorrect. Mass immigration is clearly bad for Canadian society and whatever it stands for including diversity. I am especially concerned about what nobody seems to care about - the QUALITY of immigrants. As a citizen and taxpayer I am scared of so-called refugees flowing in from disturbed areas bringing in disturbing ideologies and practices that are incompatible with Canadian values.
A country must limit immigration to the level than will not decrease the standard of living, bid up housing costs greatly or overtax the health care system. All of these thing are happening in Canada because of mass immigration.
It is the opposite. Talented immigrants increase per capita income and increase gentrification. This reduces crime and increases housing costs. Why do you want to limit talented and elite immigration?
@AnAn___ you are conflating immigration and mass immigration, which is something duplicitous trash in the media constantly does. There is no benefit to having hordes of people from the third world invade a first world country.
Thank you Darian, for having Maxime on, I appreciate your fair and unbiased approach to things. I have a deep loyalty to Max, he is the ONLY political leader that stood for the unvaxxed and bodily autonomy.
Maxime is the only real guy in Canadian politics. Canada needs to be demanding of the people it brings into this country to maintain the high standards it has always held. Instead, what I find is that Canada has lowered itself and it’s standards to accept anything and everything from the people it’s bringing in - especially from southern hemisphere immigrants. They are running amok in this country and misbehaving and taking advantage of everything they can. It’s demeaning to watch Canada allow, accept and encourage this.
Hello from BC. Thank you Darshan for interviewing Max, its vital all party leaders be given space to speak and Max is continually silenced which speaks volumes.I will be voting for Max and the PPC.
Passion and conviction...not opinion polling, pandering and focus groups? I have to vote for my principles and values, I will vote Peoples Party of Canada.
Maxime Bernier once again, you were clear, to point, answered his questions, and backed by common sense. Thank you! Canada desperately needs you in the House of Commons! God bless you 🙏 ❤️ ✝️
Hello from BC. Thank you for this open discussion on the massive immigration problem we have. Everywhere I go now all I hear is foreign languages. There is no integration. There is only the bringing of the terrible things they left behind. I used to be a live and let live person. Now, I see we are being invaded and over run with the help of the Canadian government. Now, I'm considered a racist for pointing it out and talking about it.
Sad, isn't it. Being named a racist all because the newer immigrants who come here, and in my experience too, don't have the need to learn English or French our two official languages all because there are so many of the same ethnic groups that speak their mother tongue. If pointed out, I'M the racist!?! It's unbelievably troubling. When my grandfather migrated here in 1926 he had to learn English in order to fit in, and now it's completely opposite, mass immigration and another example of why it's hurting Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks for the interview Darshan bhai. As an Indian origin Canadian citizen it was good to hear Mr Bernier's views. I would take PPC seriously but it's attracting people who use prejudiced language. The other issue is that nobody is talking about how Canadian economy is too dependent on immigration. Also there needs to be a crackdown on "immigration consultants" and diploma mills. Some Australian colleges have banned students from certain states of India including Punjab. It simple doesn't make sense to take immigrants from a region that has a drug epidemic, high crimes and a militant movement.
Agreed. Their actual platforms are very reasonable and I’m sure they will bring positive changes if they get elected. But they don’t necessarily align with the views of some of their supporters.
very glad I came across this one’ well said sir’s !! thank you for sharing this discussion ! i really feel like immigration is sucking the life out of canadian citizens
Hi Darshan, Very good interview. I am glad you were able to discuss some of the key issues related to mass immigration. I agree with Mr. Bernier on several of his viewpoints. As always keep up the good work.
Their policies sound very reasonable. Max just wants to revert to a time when immigration worked in Canada. And that was in the recent past. PPC mostly gets a bad rep because some of their supporters are way more radical than the actual party.
@DarshanMaharaja Usually I am not a fan of our fellow Brown Indians due to the racial stereotypes about us which are sadly true but I am very impressed with you that you have featured Maxime Bernier on your own show and you are not Anti-White which is a very big thing with me. 👌👍
As a Canadian of Indian origin, here are some essential starters in my view. 1. Opt out of the International Refugee Convention. 2. Restrict student visas to Masters and higher graduate study only, for purposes of permanent residence. 3. Introduce country quota for permanent immigration. 4. Stop this multi cultural emphasis and take the integration path. 5. Before issuing visas, conduct intensive Canadian orientation programs and make them sign a legal document agreeing to clearly stated Canadian values and separation of religion from the public sphere. 6. Birth in Canada gives automatic Canadian citizenship only if both parents are Canadians or permanently residing in Canada.
My great grandparents and my grandparents came here after WW2. They paid to come here and were told that they could be Italian in the privacy of their home but outside they must be Canadian. They had a hard time as Italians in Toronto up to the 1960's for being Italian, but all that has passed. They are great Canadians, worked hard built businesses, treated people right and raised their kids to work hard.
I think Canada should not be in the list of developed countries now where there are massive poverty, unemployment, housing crisis, healthcare issue even recent increased crime rate
Immigrants MUST RESPECT the founding fathers, nations and cultures of MY country......which is English, French and indigenous......AND THAT'S WHO OWNS CANADA!
I can’t understand why we would agree to bringing this amount of people into PEI. Our social services can’t handle this amount. We don’t have enough medical doctors or the health care to take care of all. I believe this will end up tragic for all.
Even if the stop the immigrant the will never stop bunjabi students more then 3 million bunjabi only in toronto every where we go the Indian student I miss to see canidian but look like the disappeared
It's only Punjabi students they work as students in tim hortons for 20 hours and after getting work permit they work in tim hortons for 60 hours after few years they will protest for pr then again after few years they will ask for khalistan in canada . In us most of multi-billion dollar ceos are indians in canada you guys are importing leftovers which is not even needed in india
The questions to really get answered are todays pressing matters such as 1) what is Canada govnt going to do about all the people who are already here on visitor and international student visas? 2) What is being done to tackle illegal immigrants and reduce illegal immigration? 3) What is Canada's stance on improving the asylum seeker policy which is so blatantly abused?
@@flanzydias7718 all very good questions. I don’t think there any plans (or even thought given) to these. They’re playing it by the ear. This will cause major problems.
I like Max's political party's stance on mass immigration very much. Its a very common sense view which Canada is lacking tremendously. I would like to knkw his views on the carbon tax, the UN and the WEF. Also 15 minjte cities. Hoping I will find them on his social media.
I'm generally opposed to some of Bernier's view, but this was a nice discussion. I really hope that Bernier answered the question around the unjustified hate that's being spewed(referring the example of deporting every Indian). Regardless, it was an amazing conversation. I like the fact that Bernier isn't pandering to any ethnicities.
There is a lot a discussion regarding affordable housing in relation to the population surge. There is no discussion about the new commercial real estate (grocery stores, clothing, entertainment, restaurants, other goods and services etc.) that will need to be built to support the residential real estate growth.
Hi @DarshanMaharaja I think we also need to discuss how in recent years Canada has built an economy around immigration. The prospect of immigration brings in students to universities. There are immigration consultants looking to make a living. It's become so ingrained that there is a condo-apocalypse in cities like Toronto, small empty condo units tailor made for students that families can't use and, ironically, students can't afford.
What about those who are following everything and tick all checks of being “Canadian” . Not getting answers on what is future of those did study and has stable/good jobs but failing to get anything bcz of chicken-and-egg arguments.
At the risk of misquoting Bernier, it seems his views are that enrolling and studying in Canada doesn't guarantee PR or stay. Hence, i) get your expensive education ii) and go back to your country iii) Ohh yes, thank you for investing in our economy
Thank you for the interview but I feel that your first question, on what led to this mass immigration in canada was not answered propely. WHY DID CANADA BRING IN SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE? THIS IS UNFAIR TO BOTH THE NEW INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS AND ALSO THE CANADIAN ECONOMY. WHY DID THEY DO IT? SUCH BIG MISTAKES CANNOT BE TOLERATED AS NEW IMMIGRANTS INVEST HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND EFFORT INTO THIS SYSTEM. WAS IT FOR MONEY? Please make a video on that. Thank you once again.
I've supported Max since the creation of his party. In this interview he makes some very good points. However, I've seen the same viral video of Max recently telling an Indian man that when his visa expires he will be told to leave. Something about leaving the job at Tim Horton's for a Canadian to fill. Well, that's the problem. There are no so-called "Canadians" that want to work in the hospitality industry. Staffing was terrible pre-Covid, but post Covid there has been an on-going dearth of people wanting to work in restaurants.
I dont believe that. Prove it. I hear tons of Canadians with teens looking for these jobs, they are all taken by foreigners working under the table as cheap labour. Corporations are too greedy. There are no excess jobs or Canadians that dont want to work, BS.
If your business requires importing cheap foreign labour to survive then it shouldn't exist !! It's obviously not important enough, or you can't pay enough to attract Canadian workers. And trust me, for the right price, you will have local Canadian workers.
@@reefermadnesss I understand your point but the foreign labor is not paid less than Canadian born employees. As for making the jobs more attractive by raising wages -it's a nice dream but the customer is not willing to pay the price. Margins are very slim in restaurants. There's dreams, and then there's reality.
@patriciatoderan if you can't make a business paying local employees at wage that will entice them to come and work, your business shouldn't exist. Period, point blank.
The only language I both speak and easily understand is English, yet I've never had much difficulty understanding Max and over the years his English continues to improve. Canada has 2 official languages, French and English.
why would quebec doctors need to practice their professions in Vancouver, they are a separate "nation" country that speaks french, they go to Belgium or Haiti not North America. They are forcing everyone to speak french even the anglophones to get service by their governments, their Frenh persons speak perfectly bilingual so they have more opportunities while the immigrants and anglophones are forced french down their throats to work as slaves within their "society" They don't need to do business with North America, they DO NO share Canadian values as Maxime says, I liked him before but now I am seeing the real dark side of Quebec, they have this thing coming out of their shoulders every now and them. Trudeau is a Quebec product, look what he did to Canada. To be honest, Darshan Maharaja thinks more conceptually, Maxime thinks like how every one else things regardless of the books in the background to showcase his studies, he is a bit controlling very much how Quebec people are, with their civil code that they change on their whims vs the commonwealth law in the rest of Canada.
This was a fabulous interview with great questions being asked and equally great and honest responses from Maxime Bernier. I have read through the People’s Party of Canada’s entire platform and I find them very reasonable and well thought out. PPC certainly deserves to be a legitimate political party that can provide an alternative political solution to Canada’s unique challenges. I encourage everyone to read their platform with an open mind and decide for themselves.
Excellent interview with Maxime. I appreciate the nuance, and the willingness to have the conversation. We need more of this.
@@jocelynburzuik6357 thank you 🙏
Maxime is the only leader who is very clear on mass immigration and its serious effects on Canadian society.
@tammymonette8371Please explain " why " he needs to explain what he purchases with his own money? 🤔 Tons of people including politicians own property in other countries, especially warm locations . He does live in Canada you know so many people have homes south of the border.
@@kevlarspirit392 Agree
This was a fabulous interview with great questions being asked and equally great and honest responses from Maxime Bernier.
I have read through the People’s Party of Canada’s entire platform and I find them very reasonable and well thought out. PPC certainly deserves to be a legitimate political party that can provide an alternative political solution to Canada’s unique challenges.
I encourage everyone to read their platform with an open mind and decide for themselves.
@@vigsbond thank you 🙏
Thank you for this podcast. It’s important to listen to everyone in the society and not cancel people just because what they say is politically incorrect. Mass immigration is clearly bad for Canadian society and whatever it stands for including diversity. I am especially concerned about what nobody seems to care about - the QUALITY of immigrants. As a citizen and taxpayer I am scared of so-called refugees flowing in from disturbed areas bringing in disturbing ideologies and practices that are incompatible with Canadian values.
Well said, I agree as an Indian origin immigrant and citizen. We're getting the lowest quality immigrant.
Which specific refugee groups are you referencing?
@@wanderingnomad1 And we are getting 85% from India
A country must limit immigration to the level than will not decrease the standard of living, bid up housing costs greatly or overtax the health care system. All of these thing are happening in Canada because of mass immigration.
True also should not bring people with radical intolerant ideologies
It is the opposite. Talented immigrants increase per capita income and increase gentrification. This reduces crime and increases housing costs.
Why do you want to limit talented and elite immigration?
@@vikram_shahi Which specific intolerant ideologies are you referring to?
@@AnAn___ guess that yourself
@AnAn___ you are conflating immigration and mass immigration, which is something duplicitous trash in the media constantly does. There is no benefit to having hordes of people from the third world invade a first world country.
Thank you Darian, for having Maxime on, I appreciate your fair and unbiased approach to things. I have a deep loyalty to Max, he is the ONLY political leader that stood for the unvaxxed and bodily autonomy.
Maxime is the only real guy in Canadian politics. Canada needs to be demanding of the people it brings into this country to maintain the high standards it has always held. Instead, what I find is that Canada has lowered itself and it’s standards to accept anything and everything from the people it’s bringing in - especially from southern hemisphere immigrants. They are running amok in this country and misbehaving and taking advantage of everything they can. It’s demeaning to watch Canada allow, accept and encourage this.
Hello from Alberta! Thank you Darshan for your questions and sharing of insights by Maxime.
@@QuiltedLily thank you 🙏
I hope we can get the PPC into parliament.
Wow! A politician that actually answers questions; in an honest manner. Great interview. Thanks for posting.
@@crowesarethebest thank you 🙏
Hello from BC. Thank you Darshan for interviewing Max, its vital all party leaders be given space to speak and Max is continually silenced which speaks volumes.I will be voting for Max and the PPC.
Me too ❤
Thank you both for having this conversation.
Passion and conviction...not opinion polling, pandering and focus groups? I have to vote for my principles and values, I will vote Peoples Party of Canada.
I really hope maxim bernier win atleast 1 seat so people can hear his voice in the parliament.
Maxime Bernier once again, you were clear, to point, answered his questions, and backed by common sense. Thank you! Canada desperately needs you in the House of Commons! God bless you 🙏 ❤️ ✝️
Vote PPC
Hello from BC. Thank you for this open discussion on the massive immigration problem we have. Everywhere I go now all I hear is foreign languages. There is no integration. There is only the bringing of the terrible things they left behind. I used to be a live and let live person. Now, I see we are being invaded and over run with the help of the Canadian government. Now, I'm considered a racist for pointing it out and talking about it.
Sad, isn't it. Being named a racist all because the newer immigrants who come here, and in my experience too, don't have the need to learn English or French our two official languages all because there are so many of the same ethnic groups that speak their mother tongue. If pointed out, I'M the racist!?! It's unbelievably troubling. When my grandfather migrated here in 1926 he had to learn English in order to fit in, and now it's completely opposite, mass immigration and another example of why it's hurting Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks for the interview Darshan bhai. As an Indian origin Canadian citizen it was good to hear Mr Bernier's views. I would take PPC seriously but it's attracting people who use prejudiced language. The other issue is that nobody is talking about how Canadian economy is too dependent on immigration. Also there needs to be a crackdown on "immigration consultants" and diploma mills. Some Australian colleges have banned students from certain states of India including Punjab. It simple doesn't make sense to take immigrants from a region that has a drug epidemic, high crimes and a militant movement.
Agreed. Their actual platforms are very reasonable and I’m sure they will bring positive changes if they get elected. But they don’t necessarily align with the views of some of their supporters.
very glad I came across this one’ well said sir’s !! thank you for sharing this discussion ! i really feel like immigration is sucking the life out of canadian citizens
Yes you are right, to save the white race, immigration will have to be stopped
Hi Darshan,
Very good interview. I am glad you were able to discuss some of the key issues related to mass immigration. I agree with Mr. Bernier on several of his viewpoints. As always keep up the good work.
@@roopabose5934 thank you 🙏
I really want Maxime to make a hostile takeover of the Conservative Party and have PPC become the main party for Canadians.
Hey great channel Darshan really like to see more in the future
@@billyray105 thank you 🙏
True Journalism
Very Brave of you Darshanji. It is important to hear what PPC also have to say. You can't stay in denial of what they think. Better to stay informed.
@@libshastra thank you 🙏
As I said right at the beginning, I consider it important to bring different views to the debate.
Their policies sound very reasonable. Max just wants to revert to a time when immigration worked in Canada. And that was in the recent past. PPC mostly gets a bad rep because some of their supporters are way more radical than the actual party.
@DarshanMaharaja
Usually I am not a fan of our fellow Brown Indians due to the racial stereotypes about us which are sadly true but I am very impressed with you that you have featured Maxime Bernier on your own show and you are not Anti-White which is a very big thing with me. 👌👍
@@ElectroSharpTurtle thank you 🙏
I pray ppl will wake up & vote #ppc
As a Canadian of Indian origin, here are some essential starters in my view.
1. Opt out of the International Refugee Convention.
2. Restrict student visas to Masters and higher graduate study only, for purposes of permanent residence.
3. Introduce country quota for permanent immigration.
4. Stop this multi cultural emphasis and take the integration path.
5. Before issuing visas, conduct intensive Canadian orientation programs and make them sign a legal document agreeing to clearly stated Canadian values and separation of religion from the public sphere.
6. Birth in Canada gives automatic Canadian citizenship only if both parents are Canadians or permanently residing in Canada.
Bernier is the only party leader who has both the intelligence and the courage to say what is obvious: mass immigration is destroying Canada
My great grandparents and my grandparents came here after WW2. They paid to come here and were told that they could be Italian in the privacy of their home but outside they must be Canadian. They had a hard time as Italians in Toronto up to the 1960's for being Italian, but all that has passed. They are great Canadians, worked hard built businesses, treated people right and raised their kids to work hard.
I think Canada should not be in the list of developed countries now where there are massive poverty, unemployment, housing crisis, healthcare issue even recent increased crime rate
I think every western country is dealing with these right now.
Mr Maharaja, you speak very good English.
@@mimietmamie9827 thank you 🙏
Immigrants MUST RESPECT the founding fathers, nations and cultures of MY country......which is English, French and indigenous......AND THAT'S WHO OWNS CANADA!
I can’t understand why we would agree to bringing this amount of people into PEI. Our social services can’t handle this amount. We don’t have enough medical doctors or the health care to take care of all. I believe this will end up tragic for all.
Even if the stop the immigrant the will never stop bunjabi students more then 3 million bunjabi only in toronto every where we go the Indian student I miss to see canidian but look like the disappeared
It's only Punjabi students they work as students in tim hortons for 20 hours and after getting work permit they work in tim hortons for 60 hours after few years they will protest for pr then again after few years they will ask for khalistan in canada . In us most of multi-billion dollar ceos are indians in canada you guys are importing leftovers which is not even needed in india
They do plan on drastically reducing international student and deporting those who overstay.
The questions to really get answered are todays pressing matters such as 1) what is Canada govnt going to do about all the people who are already here on visitor and international student visas? 2) What is being done to tackle illegal immigrants and reduce illegal immigration? 3) What is Canada's stance on improving the asylum seeker policy which is so blatantly abused?
@@flanzydias7718 all very good questions. I don’t think there any plans (or even thought given) to these. They’re playing it by the ear. This will cause major problems.
I like Max's political party's stance on mass immigration very much. Its a very common sense view which Canada is lacking tremendously. I would like to knkw his views on the carbon tax, the UN and the WEF. Also 15 minjte cities.
Hoping I will find them on his social media.
I think people with work permits and international students should pay for Healthcare in our country.
Thank you Darshan for addressing this topic. Keep up the good work.
🙏
I'm generally opposed to some of Bernier's view, but this was a nice discussion. I really hope that Bernier answered the question around the unjustified hate that's being spewed(referring the example of deporting every Indian). Regardless, it was an amazing conversation. I like the fact that Bernier isn't pandering to any ethnicities.
@@philiptillery1937 thank you 🙏
There is a lot a discussion regarding affordable housing in relation to the population surge. There is no discussion about the new commercial real estate (grocery stores, clothing, entertainment, restaurants, other goods and services etc.) that will need to be built to support the residential real estate growth.
Interesting
Hi @DarshanMaharaja I think we also need to discuss how in recent years Canada has built an economy around immigration. The prospect of immigration brings in students to universities. There are immigration consultants looking to make a living. It's become so ingrained that there is a condo-apocalypse in cities like Toronto, small empty condo units tailor made for students that families can't use and, ironically, students can't afford.
The pipeline is cracking and the rats are scared of being thrown to the wolves
Good luck
I like this Maxime guy too bad he wasnt popular enuff to win the election
What about those who are following everything and tick all checks of being “Canadian” . Not getting answers on what is future of those did study and has stable/good jobs but failing to get anything bcz of chicken-and-egg arguments.
At the risk of misquoting Bernier, it seems his views are that enrolling and studying in Canada doesn't guarantee PR or stay. Hence,
i) get your expensive education
ii) and go back to your country
iii) Ohh yes, thank you for investing in our economy
Thank you for the interview but I feel that your first question, on what led to this mass immigration in canada was not answered propely. WHY DID CANADA BRING IN SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE? THIS IS UNFAIR TO BOTH THE NEW INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS AND ALSO THE CANADIAN ECONOMY. WHY DID THEY DO IT? SUCH BIG MISTAKES CANNOT BE TOLERATED AS NEW IMMIGRANTS INVEST HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND EFFORT INTO THIS SYSTEM. WAS IT FOR MONEY?
Please make a video on that.
Thank you once again.
I've supported Max since the creation of his party. In this interview he makes some very good points. However, I've seen the same viral video of Max recently telling an Indian man that when his visa expires he will be told to leave. Something about leaving the job at Tim Horton's for a Canadian to fill. Well, that's the problem. There are no so-called "Canadians" that want to work in the hospitality industry. Staffing was terrible pre-Covid, but post Covid there has been an on-going dearth of people wanting to work in restaurants.
Very well said
I dont believe that. Prove it. I hear tons of Canadians with teens looking for these jobs, they are all taken by foreigners working under the table as cheap labour. Corporations are too greedy. There are no excess jobs or Canadians that dont want to work, BS.
If your business requires importing cheap foreign labour to survive then it shouldn't exist !! It's obviously not important enough, or you can't pay enough to attract Canadian workers. And trust me, for the right price, you will have local Canadian workers.
@@reefermadnesss I understand your point but the foreign labor is not paid less than Canadian born employees. As for making the jobs more attractive by raising wages -it's a nice dream but the customer is not willing to pay the price. Margins are very slim in restaurants. There's dreams, and then there's reality.
@patriciatoderan if you can't make a business paying local employees at wage that will entice them to come and work, your business shouldn't exist. Period, point blank.
PPC will never get anywhere with Max as the leader.
He can't speak good to motivate people in English. Get a new leader and the PPC will take off
many people don't know this but Jean Chretien was the only prime minister to not speak English as their first language
The only language I both speak and easily understand is English, yet I've never had much difficulty understanding Max and over the years his English continues to improve. Canada has 2 official languages, French and English.
@@kevlarspirit392
if his skin was brown, yellow or black,
he would be told to go back to his country of origin
with his accent.....!
why would quebec doctors need to practice their professions in Vancouver, they are a separate "nation" country that speaks french, they go to Belgium or Haiti not North America. They are forcing everyone to speak french even the anglophones to get service by their governments, their Frenh persons speak perfectly bilingual so they have more opportunities while the immigrants and anglophones are forced french down their throats to work as slaves within their "society" They don't need to do business with North America, they DO NO share Canadian values as Maxime says, I liked him before but now I am seeing the real dark side of Quebec, they have this thing coming out of their shoulders every now and them. Trudeau is a Quebec product, look what he did to Canada. To be honest, Darshan Maharaja thinks more conceptually, Maxime thinks like how every one else things regardless of the books in the background to showcase his studies, he is a bit controlling very much how Quebec people are, with their civil code that they change on their whims vs the commonwealth law in the rest of Canada.
This was a fabulous interview with great questions being asked and equally great and honest responses from Maxime Bernier.
I have read through the People’s Party of Canada’s entire platform and I find them very reasonable and well thought out. PPC certainly deserves to be a legitimate political party that can provide an alternative political solution to Canada’s unique challenges.
I encourage everyone to read their platform with an open mind and decide for themselves.
vote PPC