There are thousands of ppl sitting in churches all across this country who play the game of being a "Christian" but are atheists, agnostics or some version of the two. I admire ppl who are honest with themselves and come out for who they truly are.
That's why they brainwash you with the bs when you're a child. So that even knowing it's all bs, you are SCARED to confess that you don't believe or even admit it to yourself. This double-think it causes is torturous poison to the human brain.
@@briarpatchson3039😂😂😂😂😂 I love how the religion of the threemale misogynist gawd is so INCLUSIVE when it's trying to rope in gullible rubes... JUST BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART AND CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH AND YOU WILL BE SAVED... but then when people start questioning the logic it's suddenly somehow a MUCH higher bar, isn't it? 😂
When you let go of the fear of hell and the fear of not being raptured because you are not good enough and judging everyone if they are a believer or not is so freeing.
Hell as Torture Chamber was invented by the Catholic church to extort people into giving money to build saint peters, In the book of Ezekial in the Bible, it says God has no pleasure in the Destruction of the Wicked, yes their is something called the Lake of fire where the Wicked will be Eternally Lost, in the same Book God says if the Wicked would only turn from their evil ways and lIve.
Yeah I agree. I was a believer myself, and it showed me alot about the spiritual world, people and the will to live good and evil but it was just making me a judgmental Bible thumper so now I despised who I was in that time period never want to go back to it. I was fine before a different person and now I Don't think to much on spirituality I know there's the supernatural but don't care that much to take part in anything of that sort just want to live this life while I have it. What's certain is that we have a life and need to be positive while living it, and not be scared of a afterlife cuase that cuased me not to enjoy life, and after I left it was a battle to give my life purpose and meaning again. I had just felt I was evil and everyone and everything was naturally evil but there is so much good We are not all evil. I went through times after I left the faith I had felt if the Bible is true we are all going to hell because of our imperfection, and was thinking in that logic because being washed clean is impossible everyone has the so called "Sin" nature anyways so it doesn't matter at the end of the day if faith can take you places belive in anything and after we die we may just be where we belive we'll go but we really don't know. I respect everyone's beliefs and faiths that's just my my personal experience and reason.
I agree. 100%. Jesus never taught to be that way. Jesus taught to love others as you love yourself. God teaches that we aren't to believe because of fear, but because of love and logical understanding that God exists. In fact, Jesus taught completely against those Pharisees of his time, who had an image of righteousness, however were prideful and judgemental hypocrites. Those same Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus because they knew what he was saying was the truth, they just didnt want to listen. How many of these Pharisees exist in churches today? However true knowledge of God is when God opens up a whole new world for you. You don't worry for tomorrow, you have hope, joy, and peace. You always have a smile on your face, or a smile in your heart even in the moments you may be down. You KNOW there is God who has everything in his hands. And alsp you don't sin simply because you dont want to go to hell. You don't sin because you love God and know that sin will be for the worst. Its freeing living with a clean heart without the evils of the world. God changed my life and can change yours too. May God bless you! :)
One of the key moments where I abandoned faith was a healing service in our church. Here’s a bunch of people following the word of God sincerely and asking genuinely if they can be healed, according to the Bible which tells us that whatever we ask shall be given to us, and that many would come after Jesus who would perform greater miracles than him. And all that resulted from it was 2 people being healed from the terrible affliction of “having one leg shorter than the other.” Something which is of course hard to verify. It was just one step in a process, but that was a moment where I realized that it’s just BS.
Typical story of a person following what another said about Jesus and the Bible instead of reading it for themselves. People twist good things for their own use, that is why there is the Bible so you can read it first hand.
Johan, as others have said, it is sad that you abandoned the faith because of the hypocrisy of men. That's a given. First and foremost, our faith needs to be in Jesus. Even as I listen to Trent's story of why he left Christianity, he does not sound like he was truly following Jesus, but rather, an evangelical construct. Even as Trent spoke, and he was very compelling--he was not giving us scripture. His faith was not biblically-grounded, so he doesn't seem to have had much of an anchor in his life. He never speaks of Jesus. He was more of a social Christian, and his faith was probably rooted and grounded in the faith and actions of others.
That's the problem. People follow religions and cults instead of Christ. The bible does not teach that people can pray today and get healed for sure. Not saying it can't happen but it is not promised. We have to read the text in context and think about what was said to whom and why - and not just take some verses as general statements. It is not the age of seeing, it is the age of grace. You don't need religion to be right with God. When Jesus died on the cross he surely has not wanted to create a religion but to save people and make them able to live together with God. To be free not to be chained by some dogma, because he loves us. It's something that is personal between you and God and nobody else. If you have this kind of relationship you won't ever fall away from faith. Because in this case faith is not something you do but something God does in you. No church, no cult, no group of people can give you that, ever. Only God can give it you if you believe him. He has given his life so we can live. He does not owe us anything but he gave us everything. People doing healing services don't love you, they love themselves.
I’m a Christian after leaving the faith for a decade to find myself. The feeling I had in those ten years, earning bank, starting a successful business, dating girls and partying brought me to a low place where I saw that it was pointless without acknowledging God and he welcomed me back with a loving embrace. I told myself I was a good person, but I wasn’t. From his love and submission to me I act in love towards him to serve him and live for him. I got married, I got cheated on, I tried to save the marriage, she didn’t and we divorced. Through that God was the only one that was there and knew my pain and it made me love him more. A year later you would not know that I had all that pain behind me. The reality is. God is good, he’s the only way to eternal life. After death there is no joy, smiling, comfort when you are separated from God.
I have seen several of these 'why I left Christianity' videos. They all have at least one point I would have on a list if I were to make one of these kinds of videos. I guess I shared by default by commenting on what other people have shared. That first comment resonated with me. I was taught that loving self was selfish and prideful. When I learned that 'love flows out', I started to know what love was. If I don't have love in me, if I am not a conduit for love to flow through, how can I show love to others? I you needed $100, and I don't have $100, I can't give it to you. That concept of being a conduit for love really changed my whole view of things. It changed me.
This is beautiful Coyote Herron. Thank you for sharing. I’m curious your age when you felt a paradigm shift of considering yourself more compassionately or having love for yourself?
@@ezekielgentle It all started with an argument with a fellow employee at a restaurant where I worked nights cleaning up. I flew into a rage. It was the next day that I realized that I cannot allow others to trigger me that way. That's when I turned it around. I saw myself as a duck and him as water. The thought 'Love Flows Out' came to me. I stopped seeking love, acceptance, and approval from others. That was a moment that changed my life, more than any Church Culture activity ever did. Actually, CC only kept me in a victimized state of mind. That outcome of the incident at the restaurant I started calling Duck Medicine (medicine meaning power) is what I call my 'moment of enlightenment'. It was part of a mental shift that led to my de-conversion a few years later.
Thank you for sharing. Fascinating story and speaks to your inner wisdom to have that moment of reflection. Your Duck Medicine / Power concept is inspiring and reminds me of The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle where he makes the point that we are neither our bodies nor our thoughts but rather the awareness of our entire experience. Sounds like you became aware of your aggregated/triggered state and knew intrinsically there was another way. Leaving a mindset of victimhood seems to take a lifetime of recovery- which I’m happy to do as it’s a small price to pay for true freedom. Thanks again. I wish you the best in your endeavors ✨
@@ezekielgentle Sorry, I missed a point you asked me about. I was 46 when I came to the understanding about Duck Medicine, as I called it. I de-converted around 60.
Thank you for this. Self-love is a huge challenge for me, especially when I feel I've made a huge mistake. Something happened recently, where I felt I had to choose between two bad options. I will second-guess myself for a long time and feel awful.
I live freely after leaving Christianity , all I do is help homeless people and those who are hungry , that's love . If humanity would just give helpful and caring towards others ? We be much happier and better off as human beings than robots on remote controls .
You are not far from the Kingdom my friend!! James 1:27 "27Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." John 14:21 "21Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him.” 22Judas (not Iscariot) asked Him, “Lord, why are You going to reveal Yourself to us and not to the world?” 23Jesus replied, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24Whoever does not love Me does not keep My words. The word that you hear is not My own, but it is from the Father who sent Me." Isaiah 1:17 Learn to do right; seek justice and correct the oppressor. Defend the fatherless and plead the case of the widow." Deuteronomy 14:28-29 28At the end of every three years, bring a tenth of all your produce for that year and lay it up within your gates. 29Then the Levite (because he has no portion or inheritance among you), the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow within your gates may come and eat and be satisfied. And the LORD your God will bless you in all the work of your hands."
@@zachreyhelmberger894 That's nice of you to say, but it does not necessarily excuse Elohimic indolence over slave trades, inquisitions and pogroms, that scripture helped to set up (plus Romans 13:1, Matthew 5:18 and 1 Corinthians 10, among others) Also, burning to ashes that useless dogshitake that is Leviticus 25:46, would have saved, many, many people, long ago. Now, how old, were Achan's, grandchildren? And the youngest, of Korah's household? And I do not look, that kindly, on Matthew 10:37, either, so far.
@@ezekielgentle Last night...as I was praying before going to bed...the Lord Jesus appeared to me...the Lord Jesus told me...He will give you one last chance...to confess your sins and repent. Otherwise, you will not be able to escape the severe judgment when the Lord Jesus returns in the last days...Amen...
One of the main things In the beginning that convinced me Christianity is just mythology is The theory of evolution proving Adam and eve story a fable . So no original sin No reason for Jesus to have to save us
Macro evolution has been debunked. Look into Steven myer, a genuine scientist. Of course it’s your choice to give up Christianity, but please not for this reason
Christianity creates the concept of the 'Void". It's a thing that's to be feared and rightly so. After all you/we, spent all our lives being told what to do, believe etc. For me the void I faced, besides the spiritual one, was lose of community. That was real. Once I faced the void, I became free. Sure the void of the community didn't go away. Unlike you, I have trouble with friends. But way beyond that I discovered a world that has a lot to offer. I thrived. I have never missed christianity for one second. Personally the Void was not something to avoid, but embrace. I know this is a few years old, so I wish you the best on your journey where ever it takes you.
Thank you for the thoughtful comment, Larry! Your words resonate with me deeply and I appreciate your thoughts. In radicalizing myself, I abandoned my own sensibilities for those that felt higher or more attuned to what the narrative I was locked in on said. The void was left as the unexplained, now but not yet, and the only way out was to go through it and “give god the glory” while internally, I was becoming more empty of my true self the harder I sought the evangelical god of the Bible. Allowing the faith system to unravel has shown me what you described- the void is not escapable or outright explainable. In fact, we probably all have variations of this sense of longing that’s as unique to us as our fingerprint. I’m not sure. But I’m more free AND powerful than I’ve ever been and I’m not going back. 😁
Let me express a reasoning: Let's imagine an hypothetical scenario where christianity is wrong ( In its beliefs ). In this case you'd have nothing to lose. But if christianity is right, you'd be in big trouble after dying... Just try to reason what the most cautious and wise decision is ( Reasoning from what I said above )
Dude right on. The reasons you give get right to the root of the problems with Christianity It's a horrible place to start (that we are born rebellious and against God by nature) This almost destroyed me. I'm out now but I think it ruined my sense of self. How do you deal with the bitterness?
The daily practice of forgiving myself, my parents, and everyone who I have felt resentment towards is something I am continually working on. Louise Hay (RIP) wrote a book called You Can Heal Your Life. Her audio is in countless videos and her perspective has helped me open myself to seeing the good in me and letting go of pain cycles. Thank you for the comment, David!
Given its been 3 years, you've probably discovered this by now, but I found the process of getting past the bitterness was in empathy. The realization that the people who raised you or brought you into the church believed it was the best thing for you, they believed it was kindness. The realization that you were them, not that long ago, and that you weren't malicious when you were that person.
@@ezekielgentle Never heard someone's testimony whence they say that THEY LEFT CHRISTIANTY. It is always have been about catholic religion from which they left and not a CHRISTIANTY. Every soul who have come out with "Why I Left Christianity" ends up speaking about catholic religion. And souls know it and understand it that: Christianity is found only in the BIBLE, as a soul takes a bible, sits down and reads it and then start studying it in order to understand it, or we end up misreading the whole bible. Coming to repentance and born again is each soul`s individual CONSCIOUS decision, which child (0 - 20 years) cannot do. It is the CONSCIOUS decision for the adults. No child goes to hell to burn, GOD is not unjust, HE IS JUST JUDGE. Hell fire waits us when we being adults and remain sinners. The keys to understand the BIBLE are: - hunger for truth - THE COMFORTER.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Ezekiel. The comments from the “Christians” prove your points very nicely. Anyone who has actually read the Bible with an open mind (as I have three times) quickly realizes that it is a hyper-parochial set of texts, many of which plagiarized older religious texts. the god portrayed is petty, jealous, vain, violent, loves collective punishment(especially involving children). and above all, “god” has an extreme insider-outsider view of the world which has subsequently reeked so much destruction in the name of “god”. Fuck that! There are many good Christians (my husband is one of them) but only because they are also critical thinkers and compassionate people; unlike all of the mindless Christians (I’m looking at you, fundamentalists). I hope your video helps others to free themselves from the tyranny of Christianity, or at least find a more genuinely Christ-like denomination. I left 20+ years ago and haven’t looked back. For anyone thinking about leaving, I encourage you to watch some videos from Bart Erhman, an expert on the history of Christianity and the biblical cannon (fascinating and most un-Christ-like, and answers the question why so much in the New Testament is contradictory). Good luck !
I hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh ! Me an Emilyenemy now are your church!
I see you. I hear you. I feel for you. I would dare to say that there are a lot of shared realities from your experiences within the Christian faith. As someone who was there to witness part of your journey, I too have been challenged to discover what I truly believe about the world that we live in. Much love Zeke.
Thank you so much for your understanding Tiffanie! Yes you and some others were there for me and others in such a profound way. I try not to take away from anyone else’s experience while also seeking the best form this life can have ❤️ thank you for your response! 💕
@@simplethings2316 that's you you read book claim to truth yet that very God is a Demon established slavery,human sacrifice and on very negative evil book.
Before I was saved my life was good, I had a home a good job. I joined a church and served, my heart was after Jesus not prosperity. I lost everything as a Christian and it's been 7 years and God is quiet. I suffered and God in his throne with all the wealth could not answer one prayer to get me a job and im realising maybe God is not there
Thanks for your honest explanation of your Christian deconstruction. Such stories are always eye opening to me, being a life-long non-believer. I never had to face the hurdles you did, and my hat's off to you for overcoming them with such generosity of spirit.
Hi can you help me please guilt of lyrics of secular music terrified of engaging with other things incase I die and go to hell over forty years of indoctrination terrified of letting go
Hello. The fear of hell is very common and keeps people shackled to the religion... Which is what the idea is designed to do. The concept of hell and an omni benevolent God directly contradict one another.,. Proving the claim false.
Congratulations on getting out of one of the worst mind-numbing cults. I hope all goes well and certainly your educational horizon has opened up. Faith is the noise made by people who have no Evidence, or they would present that.
Hi Ezekiel, I've been listening carefully to your testimony and here are the thoughts it inspires to me. 00:18 "I realised that path didn't serve me any more": Hum! are you sure it's all about you? you don't seem to feel fine now that you've left it. 02:22 "I just let it go": I don't understand why, you don't mention it, or did I miss something? you were only talking about relationships between people... and you later mention how deep and sincere the relationships were. 02:54 About "abdication of self": being a Christian doesn't condemn you to become someone else! The father, the son and the spirit love you just the way you are. You only talk about giving, but this can't do: you must receive first. Did you? This seems to be emphasized at what you say at 04:08 "the more I would give of myself"... it's just the wrong way round.... and at 03:23, "putting others first" is not a Christian way of behaving. You must love your neighbour *as yourself* , so you must love yourself first. Do you love yourself ;-) ? 04:50: Talking of guilt, Romans 8 you certainly know well says that _"There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death."_ Why should you be able to do miracles? And don't you think God used you for miracles just after you left the scene ;-) ? I know very well that issue, I've experienced it too. But (in my case anyway) it was a way to fight fear, to get self-confidence, to feel like "I don't have to fear this world". Hopefully I understood it, gave up, and... still experience miracles from time to time. Besides, don't forget we are in the end times, there will be less and less miracles. 05:40: didn't get the point on the band. Looks like people haven't been fair to you. Well, get ready for a thousand of such situations in your life... I guess you know dating is a hard topic. Hope you also notice that (06:00) you swallow your deception by focusing on you: "what you really like, what you prefer"... it may help for some time, but it's a dangerous path. 06:30 : Jesus didn't come to save us from hell, but from sin... that's why there is hope for a peaceful and fruitful life on earth! Mat 1 _"(Mary) will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, _*_because he will save his people from their sins.”_* 06:44: No, of course not! There is salvation also for those who didn't hear about Jesus. Read Mat 25, 31 to 46 (the sheep and the goats), or Romans 2, 12+ :_"All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law (...) For it is (...) those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law."_ This should also answer your "lack of responsibility": you can't seriously claim that in the church, because as you know, we are accountable for all our deeds and even all our thoughts. On the creative force: are you serious? don't tell me you really believe this is possible apart from god. Furthermore, it contradicts your deception of not being able to do miracles. On the divorce and misbehaving of a leader: alas, the leaders are targets for the devil... they might be blamed, as such situations cause people to stumble, but they are also the very example that the values and ideals described in the Bible are true. 09:50 listening to your instincts isn't difficult, it's very easy as it's natural, it's your animal nature. But of course you have to reject all your intelligence and moral barriers tell you... but then, is it good to do so? 10:06 No, of course not all paths are equivalent nor fulfilling! This is criminal of you o to claim that and encourage others to do so. AS a matter of fact, what helps you keeping the void at a distance is precisely the tasks God gave to Adam: To work the garden and take care of it! As for the music, the Bible tells us why it soothes the mind: it was created to honor God and worship Him. Sorry for this long comment, I really car about your sincerity and frankness and hope my comment may help. Blessings from a French guitarist who struggled long with the same kind of issues, to which only God has a solution. Or rather : to which God is the one and only solution.
5 great points. So much of the “human saving goals” go directly against humanity and instinct. HE came and brought neither a carrot or a stick but theatre for Himself.
"I pray for your soul brother." vs " I'm sorry you believe in lies" majority of people utter the latter. For me personally, ive gotten to points where i believed i was God. But at some point i had to admit that i didnt put myself here nor did i create the people around me. My brain cannot wrap itself around the entirety of existance. When i open my bible there is a certain humbleness that comes over me, almost like my brain admitting that it needs my heart. Like my heart admitting it needs my soul. Isaiah 10:15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood. I humbly admit that i am not the one in control nor can i lean on my own understanding. I pray for the reader as i do not know your role in all of this. May the Lord bless you and keep you safe. Amen.
An Atheist is a person that flees from reality and heads towards nihilism. A monotheist is a person who fights against falsehood & delusion. A pagan is a person who creates falsehoods & delusion. Christianity is an illogical concept of idolatry justified by trinity as unity which involves a child killing God, human sacrifice, cannibalism and drinking blood. Does this sound like love? ....
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You R right on the money! And speaking of money...I think U know where I'm going with this. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology said: "If you want to make a lot of money start a church!"
Believing in Right, Wrong, Good,Evil, Sin, Righteousness, Justice, Injustice ,makes YOU DEPRESSED. I believe ALL THE UNIVERSE IS EVIL. I believe the universe wants to make you evil, depressed. It's the Old dangling the carrot trick. Since I believe the universe is evil, I Don't play the game ANYMORE. The universe don't like it when it Can't MESS WITH YOUR MIND ANYMORE.
Hi a Christian life coach has just dumped me because I was my authenticated self constructive criticism and he just told me not to contact him again because he won't answer
When we Die we choose our fate, just remember God waits but not forever, also God wants to save us from sin, Jesus died for us so through the Holy Spirit we can get the victory over sin, we decide our own fates, that's what free will is all about, plus look for true Christians, I am a Seventh Day Adventist we are seekers of truth.
Hey Ezekiel, thank you for sharing your story. I sorry to hear about some of you experiences with church and your family. I want to briefly share my story. I was born as a cradle Catholic and went to Sunday school up to the 5th grade. Then I had Protestant beliefs up to age 25, went New Age for about 3 to 4 years and was directed back to the Catholic Church. What directed me back to God, was adoration and experiencing the presence of God through the Holy Eucharist located in the monstrance. I see that you witnessed at felt miracles of healing. I encourage you to continue pursuing Jesus Christ because he is the truth. I think it is important to take care of ourselves and it is also good to continue making sacrifices for others. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. (Luke 6:38) Hope you are well. God bless you.
@@matthewchiapete2723 He's left Christianity he doesn't need to be told a story that he already knows and has concluded that there is insufficient evidence to justify believing the story.
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@@UniqueSundials But that would serve HIM. Which wouldn't be Christianity. Besides the question was to you. Would YOU sacrifice YOUR salvation to save another if possible?
@@B.S._Lewis That is literally not really what its about LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You people don't understand Jesus Christ mission for the CHURCH ! not the BUILDING ! THE CHURCH( THE CALLED OUT ONES < THE BODY OF BELIEVERS THAT MAKE UP THE CHURCH , WITH JESUS CHRIST AS THE HEAD.) Dear LORD ! Jesus doesn't just save ONE person or a few other people and than thats it. Once you receive salvation , when you receive the empowerment by the HOLY GHOST indwelling IN YOU , than your real walk begins of sactification and separating yourself to JESUS in full SURRENDER . That way the Holy Spirit can work THROUGH you to do miraculous things like heal people , raise the dead, cast out demons , etc and preach the gospel. Throughout this time period of renewing your mind by the word and prayer , fasting , etc. You take part in the suffering of offering your BODY as a living sacrifice . You deny your carnal desires so you can FEED your spiritual desire or inner man. This is what also empowers you to reach the lost , preach , travel to do missionary work etc, heal the sick . Most people do not end up this far into the walk , they give up before they can ever really seek GOD and commune with him . Theres so much more to it than just saying a prayer and CHURCH.
@@12OunceProphet Wow, you blew out a huge response to something nobody said. I was mentioning the self serving nature of the salvation of the soul through Jesus' sacrifice. Which is a fundamental tenet of Christianity. Since you are obviously a much better Christian than most, would YOU trade YOUR salvation to save a lost soul if God permitted?
I am sorry to hear about your time in Africa and the struggles you went through when your parents God a divorce. I will say that for protestant Christianity, faith is so integrally tied to the community and to the pastor. That is why I love the Catholic Church. I can literally go to mass anywhere in the world, and I can still follow along. I might not know the responses, because they are in a different language, but I still know when to bow, stand sit, kneel, etc. I have literally ben to mass over in Africa or the Dominican republic and every time I go to mass, despite being in a completely foreign place, I feel like I am home.
I feel like it’s alright if you were atheist or turned atheist. Just imagine Adam lived in garden spent time (might be years) face to face with God even after seeing God he still sinned. Peter is also another example he lived with Jesus and yet rejected him three times. Yet they’re all in Heaven. Now think about it, we’ve never seen God never lived with Him yet we do our best to follow Him. I truly believe it’ll be unjust to send people to hell without showing them the true face of God. I hope that helps. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 God Bless You
Thankyou for sharing this. Can I make a few observations from the perspective of someone who has not left Christianity? 1) "Asking Jesus into your heart" is not a magic spell and has no lasting value by itself (as you have discovered). Likewise, rededication is ineffective as a means of finding a deeper relationship- it should only be done as a response to a deeply felt experience of God's love, and that is something you cannot fake. 2) If anything is becoming a chore, the right response is to stop doing it. Christianity is meant to be a pleasure, not a punishment. You did the right thing, and there should be no guilt or shame. 3) Having a servant heart is not meant to be a kind of self-flagellation, it just requires humility and not thinking we are better than anyone else. 4) We are all flawed in some way. This is the unavoidable "starting point" that we must recognise before we understand our need of salvation. Church leaders are also flawed, and if we expect them to be perfect we will always disappointed. 5)We are not made right with God by giving, but by receiving. God is not impressed by what we do for HIm, but by our willingness to accept what he has done for us. 6) MIracles are not our doing, they are subject to the sovereignty of God. If it does not happen, it is not your failure. If it does happen, it is not your success. 7) There is no place for either guilt or shame in Chrisitanity. "There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8) 8) Unlike you, I landed on Christianity after years of spiritual wandering and exploration of other paths. I eventually realised that only the sacrifice of Jesus could break down the barrier that separates us from God. There is nothing more we have to do, just ourselves up to receive and let God's love flow through us. As the hymn says "hast thou not seen? all that is needful has been". 9) It is possible to be earnestly wrong. Take care where you go from here.
All of these issues could easily have been resolved if you spoke to your priests to help you stay in the church. I pray for your return brother cuz there is no victory in abandoning Christ.
I don't hate Jesus/God but I just hate the people in the church that said they're Following Jesus but the truth, they hated each other and making sins over and over again, jealousy etc.
@@SNORKYMEDIA I think it's interesting that there are "hells" in some other religions. The Greeks had Hades and Tartarus. For me the most hellish thing about hell is being separated from the source of all life and light and love and everything else that is good and true and right. It seems some people think God should not send people to hell, but, that's impossible if the only way to escape hell is to stick with God their Creator and Redeemer. If you don't want God around, you can't have all the things that God provides. And God can't provide it remotely. God has to be on site and in charge in order to make good things happen. It's not God's fault that everywhere that He isn't around sucks bigly.
Hey Ezekiel. Just happened upon this video. I left the church for like reasons decades ago. May I suggest Aaron Abke on youtube. He has some interesting, thought provoking things to say. Much love to you.
Well I don't want to lure you into sex...but this is just another thing we can blame god for. After all he said "be fruitful and multiply...namely have sex (and a lot of it) and here's the desire I give you". And really king Soloman had a 1000 concubines! Wow, that's a lot of partners. A separate book could be written of all the sexual content of the OT. It's a big part. It's almost like god was consumed by it. Anyway, follow your path. But put the responsibility where it belongs. Humanists would say that its part of the survival instinct.
So many good things can be done apart from loving somebody who proclaims knows god the best. Everybody is messiah to do good things not only to other humans but to other animals and environment too.
The ancient world, God’s with jobs. Ancient people don’t know what air is ! When you see the words, the Lord in an English text, that’s a title replace that with the original Hebrew yahweh the proper name of the deity. In the text, it says though yeh are gods you’ll die like men. Sounds polytheistic to me.. the 40 times the Goddess Asherah has been edited out of the Bibles who the hell do you think the queen of heaven is. Oh hell what Jesus actually said was you wouldn’t want to be cast into Gahanna probably spelled incorrectly, but it’s a Valley outside of Jerusalem. How does that get? Translated into English is hell is strictly because somebody was making stuff up.. iLike former Christians, who got their education while they were devout believers they are experts in the ancient languages from them you can learn what the text says in the August copies, and the history of the creation of a literature that is contained within the text labeled as the Bible. Professor Joel Baden Yale Divinity school.. professor Barth Ehrman are Princeton theological seminary. Dr. Kipp Davis. Trinity Western University.. dr. Joshua Bowen, former Air Force Chaplin. Matt Dillahunty.. Derek Lambert, TH-cam channel myth, vision former fundamentalist Christian because he’s done his channel in an extremely professional manner scholars in relevant fields of ancient civilizations, including the development of Christianity, are willing to go on his channel and present the information and evidence from the experts that can explain what we know, and how we know it from a historical perspective. Lastly, if you make a claim or assertion, you are responsible for the evidence . Theist is Greek it means a belief. Atheist is Greek it means no belief. Atheist is not a worldview. My lack of belief is because I haven’t seen sufficient evidence to support the God proposition.
Impulsive Surprised Regretful Insecure Petty Hateful Impatient Indecisive Unforgiving Angry/Jealous Now. Does this sound like a perfect God who made us in his image? Or does this God sound like he was conjured up by mere humans who would have these human emotions? A perfect God wouldn't have these emotions. A perfect Gods actions wouldn't be dictated or controlled by mere human actions.
If you think that your human intelligence can comprehend all these you've said, then, pray that God brings you back to the path of salvation. God's ways are not human's ways.
As to your first tenets, it's like the scripture "I die daily" "it's not me but christ that lives in me". Its obliteration of self is a virtue and goal.
You followed works based religion 'i gave and gave and gave...' You're supposed to just believe and that's it. The first three gospels are strict as a parable. If the job in the church was on the condition of not dating certain people then can't blame them for letting you go. I don't judge you for dating because it's normal and remember the shewbread thing where David broke the law by eating that bread.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Jesus said that following him was not easy and you are going to experience pain.
Natsarim have INTEGRITY, and teach and obey the Commandments of Yahuah. MEN CHANGE, BUT TRUTH REMAINS Our Creator’s Name is YAHUAH (H3068), and as our Deliverer, the first Natsarim (H5341) knew Him as YAHUSHA (H3091) as He visited us as the Lamb of Alahim. Skipping the traditions invented by men, look up the Name using the concordance numbers provided. When the Bereans searched the Scriptures, they did not consult the Septuagint; they went to read the Hebrew prophets (Acts 17:11). #yahusha #natsarim
The real problem is people can read now. And as I state on my own episodes to my subs---people research on their own instead of just taking a pastor's word for it now. I didn't want to deconvert. Believe me, I fought it. But the fact is if you start to research you will see that the claims don't add up. And no I didn't take the late Christopher Hitchens word for it. I researched apologists' claims. I looked at Lee Strobel's interviewees and his total lack of objectivity, not to mention he never bothered to actually fact check their claims. And what you find is nothing but speculation and poor speculation at that. Or you find an apologist taking one fact (IE the city of Ur existed in Abraham's time) so therefore Abraham existed. Total fallacies and apologists do it all the time. I always say in my episodes that I want to find evidence to reconvert. But the fact is the more I research, the more the deconstruction continues. Cheers, DCF
It sounds to me as though you had an issue finding good resources for apologetics. Have you looked beyond the household names, such as Strobel, when it comes to the historicity of Biblical events? I used to watch a fellow called 'Testify' on TH-cam for that, and I'd recommend him to anyone who wishes to gain insight into this topic. Edit: looking at your channel, or at least your most popular videos, I come to the conclusion you're an atheist now (feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken), and I think that's quite naive. It is irrational to reject belief in any sort of God just because Christian Fundamentalism turned out to be false; can you imagine if old scientists disregarded the validity of scientific thought once geocentrism was proven wrong? At the very least you should examine philosophical arguments for the God of Classical Theism. Aristotle would be a good starting point, alongside (say) Plotinus.
Let me express a reasoning: Let's imagine an hypothetical scenario where christianity is wrong ( In its beliefs ). In this case you'd have nothing to lose. But if christianity is right, you'd be in big trouble after dying... Just try to reason what the most cautious and wise decision is ( Reasoning from what I said above )
Where did you get that goal? Looks like you made it up…..something you listed on your own personal quest to be the best Christian possible….. it exhausted you!
Idk which video you talked about there not being a biblical case for someome to read and explain what the text means. I understand you critique was about how those texts were interpreted, however, there is a biblical case for there being a reading and interpretation of the text for people, even people who had understanding. What does this mean for you as someone who has already left: it unfortunately proves that you have based your faith off of people rather than God and his word, what you know to be the bedrock of faith. Brother, i could tell you where to find this particular example, but ernesrly, would that example prove anything to you except for you to find more why you shouldnt believe in Jesus Christ who is the Creator and King of the universe? I know you still care for truth and still care for love, so i encourage you to study it out with a humble heart seeking GOD, not yourself to be right. Let God be true, and every man (including us!) a liar. Anyways, the text was Nehemiah 9, and when you wanna talk about it's relevance and how we as the church are behind, lemme know, bc id love to talk about it brother. God bless you❤
I hear your hurt, I honestly do, but you leaving the way to God bc of people sounds like you never knew God to begin with... I know that sounds harsh, but salvation doesn't come from people or works, but knowing him. Have you considered this before judging Christianity? (I'm going to your part 2 now)
Being a Christian is about Growing in Jesus Christ, If you are not Growing you are dying, also people think that being a Christian gets easier it doesn't, if you truly read the Bible you will see many cases of people who failed then asked God for Forgiveness, just saying I Quit makes God sad, but God will respect your Decision, the Journey of the world is wide and seems easy but leads ultimately to Destruction, narrow and windy is the Road that ends in Heaven, maybe you need to find the right church, I belong to the Seventh Day Adventist Church, we are the people of the Book "Bible", just remember it is in our fallen nature to Love sin, but through Jesus and the Holy Spirit we can claim the Victory, just remember their are many who claim to be Christians then their are those who are Christians, as it is Written you will now them by their Fruits.
What is the problem? I will tell you the problem, its really simple. I Corinthians II::3 Elohim is the head of Christ. Christ is the head of man. NOT Elohim/Christ is the head over Christ, Christ is the head over the pastor, bishop, priest, rabbi, these are over man. NO NO. Here is the big problem. The traditions of men. I Cor I4:3I for all can prophesy one by one. How is this possible with a pulpit master who thinks he has all the answers? Get down from the pulpit and join the group and allow Christ to lead. Ps dent Christ and He will deny you.
I was a believer myself, and it showed me alot about the spiritual world, people and the will to live good and evil but it was just making me a judgmental Bible thumper so now I despised who I was in that time period never want to go back to it. I was fine before a different person and now I Don't think to much on spirituality I know there's the supernatural but don't care that much to take part in anything of that sort just want to live this life while I have it. What's certain is that we have a life and need to be positive while living it, and not be scared of a afterlife cuase that cuased me not to enjoy life, and after I left it was a battle to give my life purpose and meaning again. I had just felt I was evil and everyone and everything was naturally evil but there is so much good We are not all evil. I went through times after I left the faith I had felt if the Bible is true we are all going to hell because of our imperfection, and was thinking in that logic because being washed clean is impossible everyone has the so called "Sin" nature anyways so it doesn't matter at the end of the day if faith can take you places belive in anything and after we die we may just be where we belive we'll go but we really don't know. I respect everyone's beliefs and faiths that's just my my personal experience and reason.
Have you wondered whether the Bible really teaches what you think it teaches? Genuine question. It's quite a big flaw in Protestantism that anyone can make up their own interpretation of Biblical passages with no regards to what has been traditionally taught. This is why Christianity has thousands of denominations. If you want the truth, then Catholicism is your best bet. I'd be more than happy to elaborate on this.
Ok yes on #5……change is tough! New bosses, ways of doing things…….And of course your parents divorce was a bomb dropped on you!……hard to be a Christian when Christians around you fail! But no one is perfect!
Even pastors / priests burn out and take a sabbatical. The devil reminds us of sin but Ephesians 2:8-9 says we are saved by faith and NOT by good works lest any man may boast. It would not be Grace if we had to earn it. God provides different gifts to different people. Not everyone can prophesy. Not everyone can speak in tongues. Not everyone can perform miracles. You are not a lesser Christian, if you cannot. Look at Paul, blessed and with God but he had a physical affliction that he was unable to shift no matter how hard he prayed. Romans 3:23 says for ALL have sinned. You are no different from anyone else inside or outside the church. What matters is that we say sorry and repent. We can strive to be perfect but I think that is not attainable and unrealistic. Yes we should do good works but Matthew 5:16 says that is to bring glory to God. 1 Corinthians 6 days no liar will enter the kingdom of Heaven. Revelation 21 says all liars have their part in the Lake of Fire. So it was wrong of your church to be dishonest with you. A good church leads by example. No. The bible does not say that. Indeed quite the opposite. Matthew 7:1 commands us not to judge others. Jesus said not to worry about the wrongs of your brother. The tale of the Good Samaritan shows that we are to be kind to all regardless of someone else's faith. Yes Jesus is the only way, but it is not our place to judge others. God gave freewill. Jesus never forced anyone to love Him. You are not the energy. If miracles are performed it is by God. Even Jesus prayed to the Father. People divorced under Moses. I think your expectation of instant perfection is unreal. We are all works in progress. You think when you become a Christian you automatically become perfect. We are not washed clean by what we do. We are washed clean by what Jesus did upon the cross. I became a Christian in 1974 and I still make mistakes. If you need to talk, I will try to help.
God bless you and have Mercy on you brother. As you know, all Jews and Christians were ordered to believe in, accept and follow the Messenger of Allah, Muhammad/ Ahmad, SAS, become Muslims and practice Islam as the ONLY correct Religion/ Way of Life, as Divinely Ordained in their own respective scriptures, the Torah and the Gospel. Just what are the Jews and other Christians waiting for if indeed they follow their Holy Books as they claim??? Islam is for ALL humanity.
I'm glad you figured it out when I was 7 is when I stopped believing in God the same way I stopped believing in Santa Claus so welcome to the real world
Very interesting. Perhaps you are closer to God right now than in your "previous" life. I never felt closer to God when I felt really bad. All the best and God bless you.
th-cam.com/video/NGz-gWv46K4/w-d-xo.html Proof of the land of Ophir, according to Spanish explorers, they even write it in a contract to hide the identity of this nation, they hide this information from us to make the bible looks more of a fairy tale, thanks to God and thanks to past explorer that are also historians., all is coming out
Ezekiel I just felt to share two question you should consider Did you choose to live? Did you create yourself? Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder(Jesus) of a house has greater honor than the house(me/you) itself.Heb3:3 Why did I share this scripture and those questions? Is there any other God that gave of Himself and became the creation He formed, beaten by the hands He made, and forgave them so that by His Life He could give us access into complete union and communion in Him. Christianity is not a different path, or a slight conversion. Jesus came to give the dead, Life. What is in you is eternal, Love' is standing at the door of your heart. Come Holy Spirit mark him for Your Glory, fill him with you Presence! 🔥♥️🕊️thank you Jesus!
If you are masochistic, Christianity is for you.
@Ali Al-Yunani god is real but abusive that's problem
@@conversion721 what? Abusive? What God do you believe in ?
@Lepus J he,s not judging and hell is by freewill choice , God loves each and every human
@@kenperry6379 I don't believe anymore..I meant god of bibles
@Lepus J I have own hideous experience with god in India..These people help me to fight it out
There are thousands of ppl sitting in churches all across this country who play the game of being a "Christian" but are atheists, agnostics or some version of the two. I admire ppl who are honest with themselves and come out for who they truly are.
They were NEVRE in Christ Jesus!!!
That's why they brainwash you with the bs when you're a child. So that even knowing it's all bs, you are SCARED to confess that you don't believe or even admit it to yourself. This double-think it causes is torturous poison to the human brain.
@@briarpatchson3039😂😂😂😂😂 I love how the religion of the threemale misogynist gawd is so INCLUSIVE when it's trying to rope in gullible rubes... JUST BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART AND CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH AND YOU WILL BE SAVED... but then when people start questioning the logic it's suddenly somehow a MUCH higher bar, isn't it? 😂
No true Scotsman fallacy. Plain as day
@@briarpatchson3039Uh yeah… nobody is or ever was. It’s all fake
The best feeling in the world is to wake up from the christian coma.
When you let go of the fear of hell and the fear of not being raptured because you are not good enough and judging everyone if they are a believer or not is so freeing.
Hell as Torture Chamber was invented by the Catholic church to extort people into giving money to build saint peters, In the book of Ezekial in the Bible, it says God has no pleasure in the Destruction of the Wicked, yes their is something called the Lake of fire where the Wicked will be Eternally Lost, in the same Book God says if the Wicked would only turn from their evil ways and lIve.
Yeah I agree. I was a believer myself, and it showed me alot about the spiritual world, people and the will to live good and evil but it was just making me a judgmental Bible thumper so now I despised who I was in that time period never want to go back to it. I was fine before a different person and now I Don't think to much on spirituality I know there's the supernatural but don't care that much to take part in anything of that sort just want to live this life while I have it.
What's certain is that we have a life and need to be positive while living it, and not be scared of a afterlife cuase that cuased me not to enjoy life, and after I left it was a battle to give my life purpose and meaning again. I had just felt I was evil and everyone and everything was naturally evil but there is so much good We are not all evil.
I went through times after I left the faith I had felt if the Bible is true we are all going to hell because of our imperfection, and was thinking in that logic because being washed clean is impossible everyone has the so called "Sin" nature anyways so it doesn't matter at the end of the day if faith can take you places belive in anything and after we die we may just be where we belive we'll go but we really don't know.
I respect everyone's beliefs and faiths that's just my my personal experience and reason.
I agree. 100%. Jesus never taught to be that way. Jesus taught to love others as you love yourself. God teaches that we aren't to believe because of fear, but because of love and logical understanding that God exists. In fact, Jesus taught completely against those Pharisees of his time, who had an image of righteousness, however were prideful and judgemental hypocrites. Those same Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus because they knew what he was saying was the truth, they just didnt want to listen. How many of these Pharisees exist in churches today? However true knowledge of God is when God opens up a whole new world for you. You don't worry for tomorrow, you have hope, joy, and peace. You always have a smile on your face, or a smile in your heart even in the moments you may be down. You KNOW there is God who has everything in his hands. And alsp you don't sin simply because you dont want to go to hell. You don't sin because you love God and know that sin will be for the worst. Its freeing living with a clean heart without the evils of the world. God changed my life and can change yours too. May God bless you! :)
One of the key moments where I abandoned faith was a healing service in our church. Here’s a bunch of people following the word of God sincerely and asking genuinely if they can be healed, according to the Bible which tells us that whatever we ask shall be given to us, and that many would come after Jesus who would perform greater miracles than him. And all that resulted from it was 2 people being healed from the terrible affliction of “having one leg shorter than the other.” Something which is of course hard to verify. It was just one step in a process, but that was a moment where I realized that it’s just BS.
Typical story of a person following what another said about Jesus and the Bible instead of reading it for themselves. People twist good things for their own use, that is why there is the Bible so you can read it first hand.
@@notstayinsdowns Show some respect.
@@sdozer1990 ,
Telling it straight is respectful.
Johan, as others have said, it is sad that you abandoned the faith because of the hypocrisy of men. That's a given. First and foremost, our faith needs to be in Jesus. Even as I listen to Trent's story of why he left Christianity, he does not sound like he was truly following Jesus, but rather, an evangelical construct. Even as Trent spoke, and he was very compelling--he was not giving us scripture. His faith was not biblically-grounded, so he doesn't seem to have had much of an anchor in his life. He never speaks of Jesus. He was more of a social Christian, and his faith was probably rooted and grounded in the faith and actions of others.
That's the problem.
People follow religions and cults instead of Christ.
The bible does not teach that people can pray today and get healed for sure. Not saying it can't happen but it is not promised. We have to read the text in context and think about what was said to whom and why - and not just take some verses as general statements. It is not the age of seeing, it is the age of grace.
You don't need religion to be right with God. When Jesus died on the cross he surely has not wanted to create a religion but to save people and make them able to live together with God. To be free not to be chained by some dogma, because he loves us. It's something that is personal between you and God and nobody else. If you have this kind of relationship you won't ever fall away from faith. Because in this case faith is not something you do but something God does in you. No church, no cult, no group of people can give you that, ever. Only God can give it you if you believe him.
He has given his life so we can live. He does not owe us anything but he gave us everything.
People doing healing services don't love you, they love themselves.
I’m a Christian after leaving the faith for a decade to find myself. The feeling I had in those ten years, earning bank, starting a successful business, dating girls and partying brought me to a low place where I saw that it was pointless without acknowledging God and he welcomed me back with a loving embrace. I told myself I was a good person, but I wasn’t. From his love and submission to me I act in love towards him to serve him and live for him.
I got married, I got cheated on, I tried to save the marriage, she didn’t and we divorced.
Through that God was the only one that was there and knew my pain and it made me love him more. A year later you would not know that I had all that pain behind me.
The reality is. God is good, he’s the only way to eternal life. After death there is no joy, smiling, comfort when you are separated from God.
I have seen several of these 'why I left Christianity' videos. They all have at least one point I would have on a list if I were to make one of these kinds of videos. I guess I shared by default by commenting on what other people have shared. That first comment resonated with me. I was taught that loving self was selfish and prideful. When I learned that 'love flows out', I started to know what love was. If I don't have love in me, if I am not a conduit for love to flow through, how can I show love to others? I you needed $100, and I don't have $100, I can't give it to you. That concept of being a conduit for love really changed my whole view of things. It changed me.
This is beautiful Coyote Herron. Thank you for sharing. I’m curious your age when you felt a paradigm shift of considering yourself more compassionately or having love for yourself?
@@ezekielgentle It all started with an argument with a fellow employee at a restaurant where I worked nights cleaning up. I flew into a rage. It was the next day that I realized that I cannot allow others to trigger me that way. That's when I turned it around. I saw myself as a duck and him as water. The thought 'Love Flows Out' came to me. I stopped seeking love, acceptance, and approval from others. That was a moment that changed my life, more than any Church Culture activity ever did. Actually, CC only kept me in a victimized state of mind. That outcome of the incident at the restaurant I started calling Duck Medicine (medicine meaning power) is what I call my 'moment of enlightenment'. It was part of a mental shift that led to my de-conversion a few years later.
Thank you for sharing. Fascinating story and speaks to your inner wisdom to have that moment of reflection. Your Duck Medicine / Power concept is inspiring and reminds me of The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle where he makes the point that we are neither our bodies nor our thoughts but rather the awareness of our entire experience. Sounds like you became aware of your aggregated/triggered state and knew intrinsically there was another way. Leaving a mindset of victimhood seems to take a lifetime of recovery- which I’m happy to do as it’s a small price to pay for true freedom. Thanks again. I wish you the best in your endeavors ✨
@@ezekielgentle Sorry, I missed a point you asked me about. I was 46 when I came to the understanding about Duck Medicine, as I called it. I de-converted around 60.
Thank you for this. Self-love is a huge challenge for me, especially when I feel I've made a huge mistake. Something happened recently, where I felt I had to choose between two bad options. I will second-guess myself for a long time and feel awful.
I live freely after leaving Christianity , all I do is help homeless people and those who are hungry , that's love . If humanity would just give helpful and caring towards others ? We be much happier and better off as human beings than robots on remote controls .
You are not far from the Kingdom my friend!!
James 1:27
"27Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world."
John 14:21
"21Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him.”
22Judas (not Iscariot) asked Him, “Lord, why are You going to reveal Yourself to us and not to the world?”
23Jesus replied, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24Whoever does not love Me does not keep My words. The word that you hear is not My own, but it is from the Father who sent Me."
Isaiah 1:17
Learn to do right; seek justice and correct the oppressor. Defend the fatherless and plead the case of the widow."
Deuteronomy 14:28-29
28At the end of every three years, bring a tenth of all your produce for that year and lay it up within your gates. 29Then the Levite (because he has no portion or inheritance among you), the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow within your gates may come and eat and be satisfied. And the LORD your God will bless you in all the work of your hands."
Hey im home less and hungry can u help me?
@@zachreyhelmberger894 That's nice of you to say, but it does not necessarily excuse Elohimic indolence over slave trades, inquisitions and pogroms, that scripture helped to set up (plus Romans 13:1, Matthew 5:18 and 1 Corinthians 10, among others)
Also, burning to ashes that useless dogshitake that is Leviticus 25:46, would have saved, many, many people, long ago.
Now, how old, were Achan's, grandchildren? And the youngest, of Korah's household?
And I do not look, that kindly, on Matthew 10:37, either, so far.
Who you are is inside of you, not in a building or a book 💯
@@zachreyhelmberger894We can do good things without bringing your cult into it.
Very respectful and well articulated testimony 💯
Thank you for your comment @tr3sidential 😌 I appreciate that feedback.
@@ezekielgentle Last night...as I was praying before going to bed...the Lord Jesus appeared to me...the Lord Jesus told me...He will give you one last chance...to confess your sins and repent. Otherwise, you will not be able to escape the severe judgment when the Lord Jesus returns in the last days...Amen...
Never cared for religion and I never will.
remain ignorant so you can lose when questions relating to it come up on a gameshow. what a good idea
One of the main things In the beginning that convinced me Christianity is just mythology is The theory of evolution proving Adam and eve story a fable . So no original sin No reason for Jesus to have to save us
Macro evolution has been debunked. Look into Steven myer, a genuine scientist. Of course it’s your choice to give up Christianity, but please not for this reason
Christianity creates the concept of the 'Void". It's a thing that's to be feared and rightly so. After all you/we, spent all our lives being told what to do, believe etc. For me the void I faced, besides the spiritual one, was lose of community. That was real. Once I faced the void, I became free. Sure the void of the community didn't go away. Unlike you, I have trouble with friends. But way beyond that I discovered a world that has a lot to offer. I thrived. I have never missed christianity for one second. Personally the Void was not something to avoid, but embrace. I know this is a few years old, so I wish you the best on your journey where ever it takes you.
Thank you for the thoughtful comment, Larry! Your words resonate with me deeply and I appreciate your thoughts. In radicalizing myself, I abandoned my own sensibilities for those that felt higher or more attuned to what the narrative I was locked in on said. The void was left as the unexplained, now but not yet, and the only way out was to go through it and “give god the glory” while internally, I was becoming more empty of my true self the harder I sought the evangelical god of the Bible.
Allowing the faith system to unravel has shown me what you described- the void is not escapable or outright explainable. In fact, we probably all have variations of this sense of longing that’s as unique to us as our fingerprint.
I’m not sure. But I’m more free AND powerful than I’ve ever been and I’m not going back.
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Let me express a reasoning:
Let's imagine an hypothetical scenario where christianity is wrong ( In its beliefs ). In this case you'd have nothing to lose. But if christianity is right, you'd be in big trouble after dying...
Just try to reason what the most cautious and wise decision is ( Reasoning from what I said above )
Religion: "How to get money from your pocket into mine." Sheep
It not your money. EVERYTHING IS GOD'S
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@@gregattanasio3185 why would Your God need money..
@@gregattanasio3185Let's be real here. You're going to spend it, not your imaginary friend.
It's the same as any business?
@@gregattanasio3185 including infant brain cancer
Dude right on. The reasons you give get right to the root of the problems with Christianity
It's a horrible place to start (that we are born rebellious and against God by nature) This almost destroyed me. I'm out now but I think it ruined my sense of self. How do you deal with the bitterness?
The daily practice of forgiving myself, my parents, and everyone who I have felt resentment towards is something I am continually working on. Louise Hay (RIP) wrote a book called You Can Heal Your Life. Her audio is in countless videos and her perspective has helped me open myself to seeing the good in me and letting go of pain cycles. Thank you for the comment, David!
@@ezekielgentle thank you. I'll check that out.
Given its been 3 years, you've probably discovered this by now, but I found the process of getting past the bitterness was in empathy. The realization that the people who raised you or brought you into the church believed it was the best thing for you, they believed it was kindness. The realization that you were them, not that long ago, and that you weren't malicious when you were that person.
@@ezekielgentle, brother, do you still in one God?, and have you consider to look into shia islam?
It’s good you are in therapy especially during this pandemic which is making everyone depressed!
This Is soooo friggin helpful. Thank you Ezekiel!
I am so glad it helped B Magic! ❤️
@@ezekielgentle Never heard someone's testimony whence they say that THEY LEFT CHRISTIANTY.
It is always have been about catholic religion from which they left and not a CHRISTIANTY.
Every soul who have come out with "Why I Left Christianity" ends up speaking about catholic religion.
And souls know it and understand it that:
Christianity is found only in the BIBLE, as a soul takes a bible, sits down and reads it and then start studying it in order to understand it, or we end up misreading the whole bible.
Coming to repentance and born again is each soul`s individual CONSCIOUS decision, which child (0 - 20 years) cannot do. It is the CONSCIOUS decision for the adults.
No child goes to hell to burn, GOD is not unjust, HE IS JUST JUDGE.
Hell fire waits us when we being adults and remain sinners.
The keys to understand the BIBLE are:
- hunger for truth
- THE COMFORTER.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Ezekiel. The comments from the “Christians” prove your points very nicely.
Anyone who has actually read the Bible with an open mind (as I have three times) quickly realizes that it is a hyper-parochial set of texts, many of which plagiarized older religious texts. the god portrayed is petty, jealous, vain, violent, loves collective punishment(especially involving children). and above all, “god” has an extreme insider-outsider view of the world which has subsequently reeked so much destruction in the name of “god”. Fuck that! There are many good Christians (my husband is one of them) but only because they are also critical thinkers and compassionate people; unlike all of the mindless Christians (I’m looking at you, fundamentalists). I hope your video helps others to free themselves from the tyranny of Christianity, or at least find a more genuinely Christ-like denomination. I left 20+ years ago and haven’t looked back.
For anyone thinking about leaving, I encourage you to watch some videos from Bart Erhman, an expert on the history of Christianity and the biblical cannon (fascinating and most un-Christ-like, and answers the question why so much in the New Testament is contradictory). Good luck !
I hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh ! Me an Emilyenemy now are your church!
I see you. I hear you. I feel for you. I would dare to say that there are a lot of shared realities from your experiences within the Christian faith. As someone who was there to witness part of your journey, I too have been challenged to discover what I truly believe about the world that we live in. Much love Zeke.
Thank you so much for your understanding Tiffanie! Yes you and some others were there for me and others in such a profound way. I try not to take away from anyone else’s experience while also seeking the best form this life can have ❤️ thank you for your response! 💕
@@ezekielgentle I look forward to continuing to follow you and all the Gentle brothers ❤️
There is no sin no condemnation to hell fire it is all lies.
Until the day of judgement
@@simplethings2316 that's you you read book claim to truth yet that very God is a Demon established slavery,human sacrifice and on very negative evil book.
@@simplethings2316 yawn
@@JesusHernandez-ey1lh who told you that?
@@JesusHernandez-ey1lh that's your belief, dangerous belief
Before I was saved my life was good, I had a home a good job. I joined a church and served, my heart was after Jesus not prosperity. I lost everything as a Christian and it's been 7 years and God is quiet. I suffered and God in his throne with all the wealth could not answer one prayer to get me a job and im realising maybe God is not there
GOD IS STILL GOOD....JESUS WENT TO THE CROSS ,IT IS ALL TRUE...HIS MERCIES ARE NEW EACH MORNING 🌄....
@@gregattanasio3185 bullshit.
@@gregattanasio3185 grow up. try reading book number 2
Religion needs you more than you need it
I’m Nichiren Buddhist now
Good 4 u! Namaste
I also left Christianity, much happier now.
Totally agree Guilt/Blame/Shame equal misery.
Thanks for your honest explanation of your Christian deconstruction. Such stories are always eye opening to me, being a life-long non-believer. I never had to face the hurdles you did, and my hat's off to you for overcoming them with such generosity of spirit.
I appreciate your honesty.
Welcome to the free thinking, son... almost 70 and I'm not afraid of hell anyone
Hi can you help me please guilt of lyrics of secular music terrified of engaging with other things incase I die and go to hell over forty years of indoctrination terrified of letting go
Hello.
The fear of hell is very common and keeps people shackled to the religion... Which is what the idea is designed to do.
The concept of hell and an omni benevolent God directly contradict one another.,. Proving the claim false.
Your experience is valid.
You are very intelligent, you did much research. I walked away,tried many times,it bad me feel like a failure
If it's an 'infinitely forgiving' god there should be no hell at all
dont worry there isnt
Congratulations on getting out of one of the worst mind-numbing cults. I hope all goes well and certainly your educational horizon has opened up.
Faith is the noise made by people who have no Evidence, or they would present that.
Hi Ezekiel, I've been listening carefully to your testimony and here are the thoughts it inspires to me.
00:18 "I realised that path didn't serve me any more": Hum! are you sure it's all about you? you don't seem to feel fine now that you've left it.
02:22 "I just let it go": I don't understand why, you don't mention it, or did I miss something? you were only talking about relationships between people... and you later mention how deep and sincere the relationships were.
02:54 About "abdication of self": being a Christian doesn't condemn you to become someone else! The father, the son and the spirit love you just the way you are. You only talk about giving, but this can't do: you must receive first. Did you? This seems to be emphasized at what you say at 04:08 "the more I would give of myself"... it's just the wrong way round.... and at 03:23, "putting others first" is not a Christian way of behaving. You must love your neighbour *as yourself* , so you must love yourself first. Do you love yourself ;-) ?
04:50: Talking of guilt, Romans 8 you certainly know well says that _"There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death."_ Why should you be able to do miracles? And don't you think God used you for miracles just after you left the scene ;-) ? I know very well that issue, I've experienced it too. But (in my case anyway) it was a way to fight fear, to get self-confidence, to feel like "I don't have to fear this world". Hopefully I understood it, gave up, and... still experience miracles from time to time. Besides, don't forget we are in the end times, there will be less and less miracles.
05:40: didn't get the point on the band. Looks like people haven't been fair to you. Well, get ready for a thousand of such situations in your life... I guess you know dating is a hard topic. Hope you also notice that (06:00) you swallow your deception by focusing on you: "what you really like, what you prefer"... it may help for some time, but it's a dangerous path.
06:30 : Jesus didn't come to save us from hell, but from sin... that's why there is hope for a peaceful and fruitful life on earth! Mat 1 _"(Mary) will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, _*_because he will save his people from their sins.”_*
06:44: No, of course not! There is salvation also for those who didn't hear about Jesus. Read Mat 25, 31 to 46 (the sheep and the goats), or Romans 2, 12+ :_"All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law (...) For it is (...) those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law."_ This should also answer your "lack of responsibility": you can't seriously claim that in the church, because as you know, we are accountable for all our deeds and even all our thoughts.
On the creative force: are you serious? don't tell me you really believe this is possible apart from god. Furthermore, it contradicts your deception of not being able to do miracles.
On the divorce and misbehaving of a leader: alas, the leaders are targets for the devil... they might be blamed, as such situations cause people to stumble, but they are also the very example that the values and ideals described in the Bible are true.
09:50 listening to your instincts isn't difficult, it's very easy as it's natural, it's your animal nature. But of course you have to reject all your intelligence and moral barriers tell you... but then, is it good to do so?
10:06 No, of course not all paths are equivalent nor fulfilling! This is criminal of you o to claim that and encourage others to do so. AS a matter of fact, what helps you keeping the void at a distance is precisely the tasks God gave to Adam: To work the garden and take care of it! As for the music, the Bible tells us why it soothes the mind: it was created to honor God and worship Him.
Sorry for this long comment, I really car about your sincerity and frankness and hope my comment may help.
Blessings from a French guitarist who struggled long with the same kind of issues, to which only God has a solution. Or rather : to which God is the one and only solution.
5 great points. So much of the “human saving goals” go directly against humanity and instinct. HE came and brought neither a carrot or a stick but theatre for Himself.
"I pray for your soul brother." vs " I'm sorry you believe in lies" majority of people utter the latter. For me personally, ive gotten to points where i believed i was God. But at some point i had to admit that i didnt put myself here nor did i create the people around me. My brain cannot wrap itself around the entirety of existance. When i open my bible there is a certain humbleness that comes over me, almost like my brain admitting that it needs my heart. Like my heart admitting it needs my soul.
Isaiah
10:15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood.
I humbly admit that i am not the one in control nor can i lean on my own understanding. I pray for the reader as i do not know your role in all of this. May the Lord bless you and keep you safe. Amen.
I ask respectfully. How do you believe in miracles and a spiritual realm, but not Christianity?
Are there other religions you dont follow too?
An Atheist is a person that flees from reality and heads towards nihilism. A monotheist is a person who fights against falsehood & delusion. A pagan is a person who creates falsehoods & delusion. Christianity is an illogical concept of idolatry justified by trinity as unity which involves a child killing God, human sacrifice, cannibalism and drinking blood. Does this sound like love? ....
The ignorance and blind belief of Christianity is not a virtue. It's idolatry plain and simple.
th-cam.com/video/NGz-gWv46K4/w-d-xo.html Proof of the land of Ophir, according to Spanish explorers, they even write it in a contract to hide the identity of this nation, they hide this information from us to make the bible looks more of a fairy tale, thanks to God and thanks to past explorer that are also historians., all is coming out
You R right on the money! And speaking of money...I think U know where I'm going with this. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology said: "If you want to make a lot of money start a church!"
do u read quran
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 Yes
Other religions say question everything
Believing in Right, Wrong, Good,Evil, Sin, Righteousness, Justice, Injustice ,makes YOU DEPRESSED. I believe ALL THE UNIVERSE IS EVIL. I believe the universe wants to make you evil, depressed. It's the Old dangling the carrot trick. Since I believe the universe is evil, I Don't play the game ANYMORE. The universe don't like it when it Can't MESS WITH YOUR MIND ANYMORE.
Hi a Christian life coach has just dumped me because I was my authenticated self constructive criticism and he just told me not to contact him again because he won't answer
I also rejected Christianity ❤❤
Curious how this is going for you @richman8082 would love to know what your status is.
When we Die we choose our fate, just remember God waits but not forever, also God wants to save us from sin, Jesus died for us so through the Holy Spirit we can get the victory over sin, we decide our own fates, that's what free will is all about, plus look for true Christians, I am a Seventh Day Adventist we are seekers of truth.
@@hbh19hs29making claims doesn’t convince people who disagree with the validity of said claims, it’s just a waste of time on your part
@@hbh19hs29 more made up nonsense
If the christian god is real then he sure is mean.
We all have been lied to what I say is that there nothing to fear nothing to learn nothing know...live life .
Hey Ezekiel, thank you for sharing your story. I sorry to hear about some of you experiences with church and your family. I want to briefly share my story. I was born as a cradle Catholic and went to Sunday school up to the 5th grade. Then I had Protestant beliefs up to age 25, went New Age for about 3 to 4 years and was directed back to the Catholic Church. What directed me back to God, was adoration and experiencing the presence of God through the Holy Eucharist located in the monstrance.
I see that you witnessed at felt miracles of healing. I encourage you to continue pursuing Jesus Christ because he is the truth. I think it is important to take care of ourselves and it is also good to continue making sacrifices for others. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. (Luke 6:38) Hope you are well. God bless you.
God isn't going to bless him, haven't you read your bible? Psalm fourteen and 2 Corinthians 4: 4 makes that clear.
@@downenout8705 Thats kind of the purpose for evangelizing the truth.
@@matthewchiapete2723 He's left Christianity he doesn't need to be told a story that he already knows and has concluded that there is insufficient evidence to justify believing the story.
@@downenout8705 That didn't stop apostle Paul or the disciples.
@@matthewchiapete2723 They were speaking to those who hadn't heard the story.
you should try reading Hinduism (Sanatan Dharma which is more than 10K yrs old) start with Bhagwad Geeta.
The have become a key role in my faith & can't pronounce any of that. I guess that's just my karma.
@@rickyjoesanford6968 After Geeta there is 4 Vedas & Upanishads. Ancient texts covers everything. th-cam.com/video/EoerErmL-3c/w-d-xo.html Jeffrey Armstrong
Open statement "it did not serve ME". Whatever you left was not Christianity it is about being free of self not serving ME.
Isn't your salvation about saving you. If it were possible, would you give your salvation to save this man?
@@B.S._Lewis He can self himself by asking God to remove his self centredness
@@UniqueSundials But that would serve HIM. Which wouldn't be Christianity. Besides the question was to you. Would YOU sacrifice YOUR salvation to save another if possible?
@@B.S._Lewis That is literally not really what its about LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You people don't understand Jesus Christ mission for the CHURCH ! not the BUILDING ! THE CHURCH( THE CALLED OUT ONES < THE BODY OF BELIEVERS THAT MAKE UP THE CHURCH , WITH JESUS CHRIST AS THE HEAD.) Dear LORD ! Jesus doesn't just save ONE person or a few other people and than thats it. Once you receive salvation , when you receive the empowerment by the HOLY GHOST indwelling IN YOU , than your real walk begins of sactification and separating yourself to JESUS in full SURRENDER . That way the Holy Spirit can work THROUGH you to do miraculous things like heal people , raise the dead, cast out demons , etc and preach the gospel. Throughout this time period of renewing your mind by the word and prayer , fasting , etc. You take part in the suffering of offering your BODY as a living sacrifice . You deny your carnal desires so you can FEED your spiritual desire or inner man. This is what also empowers you to reach the lost , preach , travel to do missionary work etc, heal the sick . Most people do not end up this far into the walk , they give up before they can ever really seek GOD and commune with him . Theres so much more to it than just saying a prayer and CHURCH.
@@12OunceProphet Wow, you blew out a huge response to something nobody said. I was mentioning the self serving nature of the salvation of the soul through Jesus' sacrifice. Which is a fundamental tenet of Christianity.
Since you are obviously a much better Christian than most, would YOU trade YOUR salvation to save a lost soul if God permitted?
It is so strange that people talk about leaving Christianity but can't even tell me what it is? Where did it come from according to scripture?
It is called having a spiritual awakening that we had to have to discover the truth and be free.
I am sorry to hear about your time in Africa and the struggles you went through when your parents God a divorce. I will say that for protestant Christianity, faith is so integrally tied to the community and to the pastor. That is why I love the Catholic Church. I can literally go to mass anywhere in the world, and I can still follow along. I might not know the responses, because they are in a different language, but I still know when to bow, stand sit, kneel, etc. I have literally ben to mass over in Africa or the Dominican republic and every time I go to mass, despite being in a completely foreign place, I feel like I am home.
Many many people are leaving christianity and their churches. Me too.
I feel like it’s alright if you were atheist or turned atheist. Just imagine Adam lived in garden spent time (might be years) face to face with God even after seeing God he still sinned. Peter is also another example he lived with Jesus and yet rejected him three times. Yet they’re all in Heaven. Now think about it, we’ve never seen God never lived with Him yet we do our best to follow Him. I truly believe it’ll be unjust to send people to hell without showing them the true face of God. I hope that helps. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 God Bless You
Thankyou for sharing this. Can I make a few observations from the perspective of someone who has not left Christianity?
1) "Asking Jesus into your heart" is not a magic spell and has no lasting value by itself (as you have discovered). Likewise, rededication is ineffective as a means of finding a deeper relationship- it should only be done as a response to a deeply felt experience of God's love, and that is something you cannot fake.
2) If anything is becoming a chore, the right response is to stop doing it. Christianity is meant to be a pleasure, not a punishment. You did the right thing, and there should be no guilt or shame.
3) Having a servant heart is not meant to be a kind of self-flagellation, it just requires humility and not thinking we are better than anyone else.
4) We are all flawed in some way. This is the unavoidable "starting point" that we must recognise before we understand our need of salvation. Church leaders are also flawed, and if we expect them to be perfect we will always disappointed.
5)We are not made right with God by giving, but by receiving. God is not impressed by what we do for HIm, but by our willingness to accept what he has done for us.
6) MIracles are not our doing, they are subject to the sovereignty of God. If it does not happen, it is not your failure. If it does happen, it is not your success.
7) There is no place for either guilt or shame in Chrisitanity. "There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8)
8) Unlike you, I landed on Christianity after years of spiritual wandering and exploration of other paths. I eventually realised that only the sacrifice of Jesus could break down the barrier that separates us from God. There is nothing more we have to do, just ourselves up to receive and let God's love flow through us. As the hymn says "hast thou not seen? all that is needful has been".
9) It is possible to be earnestly wrong. Take care where you go from here.
I know why you left, you became educated. 😁
What is a Christian? Where do Christians come from according to scripture? Yeshua is not and never will be a Christian
I love Jesus. Sorry you allowed the dark one to tell you that you are the center. I will pray to God for your soul.
So to be clear you love a deity that commanded the slaughter of babies and the unborn in 1 Samuel 15: 3.
Sick beyond belief.
All of these issues could easily have been resolved if you spoke to your priests to help you stay in the church.
I pray for your return brother cuz there is no victory in abandoning Christ.
Haven't you read your bible? 2 Corinthians 4: 4 makes it clear that your prayers are against the will of your god.
I don't hate Jesus/God but I just hate the people in the church that said they're Following Jesus but the truth, they hated each other and making sins over and over again, jealousy etc.
I'm not leaving Christ, I love Him way too much, because He first loved me. So, don't let the door hit you in the @$$ on your way down.
do you ever worry about the hells of other religions???
@@SNORKYMEDIA I think it's interesting that there are "hells" in some other religions. The Greeks had Hades and Tartarus. For me the most hellish thing about hell is being separated from the source of all life and light and love and everything else that is good and true and right. It seems some people think God should not send people to hell, but, that's impossible if the only way to escape hell is to stick with God their Creator and Redeemer. If you don't want God around, you can't have all the things that God provides. And God can't provide it remotely. God has to be on site and in charge in order to make good things happen. It's not God's fault that everywhere that He isn't around sucks bigly.
Hey Ezekiel. Just happened upon this video. I left the church for like reasons decades ago. May I suggest Aaron Abke on youtube. He has some interesting, thought provoking things to say. Much love to you.
Hi Robasian! Thank you for the recommendation and the love!!
Well I don't want to lure you into sex...but this is just another thing we can blame god for. After all he said "be fruitful and multiply...namely have sex (and a lot of it) and here's the desire I give you". And really king Soloman had a 1000 concubines! Wow, that's a lot of partners. A separate book could be written of all the sexual content of the OT. It's a big part. It's almost like god was consumed by it. Anyway, follow your path. But put the responsibility where it belongs. Humanists would say that its part of the survival instinct.
So many good things can be done apart from loving somebody who proclaims knows god the best.
Everybody is messiah to do good things not only to other humans but to other animals and environment too.
Thank you.
The ancient world, God’s with jobs. Ancient people don’t know what air is !
When you see the words, the Lord in an English text, that’s a title replace that with the original Hebrew yahweh the proper name of the deity.
In the text, it says though yeh are gods you’ll die like men. Sounds polytheistic to me.. the 40 times the Goddess Asherah has been edited out of the Bibles who the hell do you think the queen of heaven is. Oh hell what Jesus actually said was you wouldn’t want to be cast into Gahanna probably spelled incorrectly, but it’s a Valley outside of Jerusalem. How does that get? Translated into English is hell is strictly because somebody was making stuff up.. iLike former Christians, who got their education while they were devout believers they are experts in the ancient languages from them you can learn what the text says in the August copies, and the history of the creation of a literature that is contained within the text labeled as the Bible. Professor Joel Baden Yale Divinity school.. professor Barth Ehrman are Princeton theological seminary. Dr. Kipp Davis. Trinity Western University.. dr. Joshua Bowen, former Air Force Chaplin. Matt Dillahunty.. Derek Lambert, TH-cam channel myth, vision former fundamentalist Christian because he’s done his channel in an extremely professional manner scholars in relevant fields of ancient civilizations, including the development of Christianity, are willing to go on his channel and present the information and evidence from the experts that can explain what we know, and how we know it from a historical perspective.
Lastly, if you make a claim or assertion, you are responsible for the evidence .
Theist is Greek it means a belief.
Atheist is Greek it means no belief.
Atheist is not a worldview.
My lack of belief is because I haven’t seen sufficient evidence to support the God proposition.
Where did you live in Africa?
Impulsive
Surprised
Regretful
Insecure
Petty
Hateful
Impatient
Indecisive
Unforgiving
Angry/Jealous
Now. Does this sound like a perfect God who made us in his image? Or does this God sound like he was conjured up by mere humans who would have these human emotions? A perfect God wouldn't have these emotions. A perfect Gods actions wouldn't be dictated or controlled by mere human actions.
If you think that your human intelligence can comprehend all these you've said, then, pray that God brings you back to the path of salvation. God's ways are not human's ways.
As to your first tenets, it's like the scripture "I die daily" "it's not me but christ that lives in me". Its obliteration of self is a virtue and goal.
This od wrong!
You followed works based religion
'i gave and gave and gave...'
You're supposed to just believe and that's it.
The first three gospels are strict as a parable.
If the job in the church was on the condition of not dating certain people then can't blame them for letting you go.
I don't judge you for dating because it's normal and remember the shewbread thing where David broke the law by eating that bread.
3:45 how would you start the story differently?
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Jesus said that following him was not easy and you are going to experience pain.
If you give power to yourself, you will soon realize you have none. It’s funny that the reason you left were exactly the ones that made me join.
Curious though ,,, did you leave Jesus-Christ or Christendom ,,
Who do you want to be?……. You! Be You! …..God will love it! Grace & Peace to You!
People are hell said the famous atheist. The remedy was the 4 Gospels but people's free will damages others.
word salad
Natsarim have INTEGRITY, and teach and obey the Commandments of Yahuah.
MEN CHANGE, BUT TRUTH REMAINS
Our Creator’s Name is YAHUAH (H3068), and as our Deliverer, the first Natsarim (H5341) knew Him as YAHUSHA (H3091) as He visited us as the Lamb of Alahim. Skipping the traditions invented by men, look up the Name using the concordance numbers provided.
When the Bereans searched the Scriptures, they did not consult the Septuagint; they went to read the Hebrew prophets (Acts 17:11).
#yahusha #natsarim
The real problem is people can read now. And as I state on my own episodes to my subs---people research on their own instead of just taking a pastor's word for it now. I didn't want to deconvert. Believe me, I fought it. But the fact is if you start to research you will see that the claims don't add up. And no I didn't take the late Christopher Hitchens word for it. I researched apologists' claims. I looked at Lee Strobel's interviewees and his total lack of objectivity, not to mention he never bothered to actually fact check their claims. And what you find is nothing but speculation and poor speculation at that. Or you find an apologist taking one fact (IE the city of Ur existed in Abraham's time) so therefore Abraham existed. Total fallacies and apologists do it all the time. I always say in my episodes that I want to find evidence to reconvert. But the fact is the more I research, the more the deconstruction continues. Cheers, DCF
It sounds to me as though you had an issue finding good resources for apologetics. Have you looked beyond the household names, such as Strobel, when it comes to the historicity of Biblical events? I used to watch a fellow called 'Testify' on TH-cam for that, and I'd recommend him to anyone who wishes to gain insight into this topic.
Edit: looking at your channel, or at least your most popular videos, I come to the conclusion you're an atheist now (feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken), and I think that's quite naive. It is irrational to reject belief in any sort of God just because Christian Fundamentalism turned out to be false; can you imagine if old scientists disregarded the validity of scientific thought once geocentrism was proven wrong? At the very least you should examine philosophical arguments for the God of Classical Theism. Aristotle would be a good starting point, alongside (say) Plotinus.
All religions are man made for their benefit. Get over it and seek your ONENESS WITH THE CREATOR
Let me express a reasoning:
Let's imagine an hypothetical scenario where christianity is wrong ( In its beliefs ). In this case you'd have nothing to lose. But if christianity is right, you'd be in big trouble after dying...
Just try to reason what the most cautious and wise decision is ( Reasoning from what I said above )
Why arent you doing that same reasoning with all the other religions?
What if Zeus is real and sends you to his balls for not believing in him?
You did time at teen challenge.
Where did you get that goal? Looks like you made it up…..something you listed on your own personal quest to be the best Christian possible….. it exhausted you!
Idk which video you talked about there not being a biblical case for someome to read and explain what the text means. I understand you critique was about how those texts were interpreted, however, there is a biblical case for there being a reading and interpretation of the text for people, even people who had understanding.
What does this mean for you as someone who has already left: it unfortunately proves that you have based your faith off of people rather than God and his word, what you know to be the bedrock of faith. Brother, i could tell you where to find this particular example, but ernesrly, would that example prove anything to you except for you to find more why you shouldnt believe in Jesus Christ who is the Creator and King of the universe? I know you still care for truth and still care for love, so i encourage you to study it out with a humble heart seeking GOD, not yourself to be right. Let God be true, and every man (including us!) a liar.
Anyways, the text was Nehemiah 9, and when you wanna talk about it's relevance and how we as the church are behind, lemme know, bc id love to talk about it brother. God bless you❤
I hear your hurt, I honestly do, but you leaving the way to God bc of people sounds like you never knew God to begin with... I know that sounds harsh, but salvation doesn't come from people or works, but knowing him. Have you considered this before judging Christianity?
(I'm going to your part 2 now)
Brother do you believe in some supreme power that created earth and humans
Being a Christian is about Growing in Jesus Christ, If you are not Growing you are dying, also people think that being a Christian gets easier it doesn't, if you truly read the Bible you will see many cases of people who failed then asked God for Forgiveness, just saying I Quit makes God sad, but God will respect your Decision, the Journey of the world is wide and seems easy but leads ultimately to Destruction, narrow and windy is the Road that ends in Heaven, maybe you need to find the right church, I belong to the Seventh Day Adventist Church, we are the people of the Book "Bible", just remember it is in our fallen nature to Love sin, but through Jesus and the Holy Spirit we can claim the Victory, just remember their are many who claim to be Christians then their are those who are Christians, as it is Written you will now them by their Fruits.
What is the problem? I will tell you the problem, its really simple. I Corinthians II::3 Elohim is the head of Christ. Christ is the head of man.
NOT Elohim/Christ is the head over Christ, Christ is the head over the pastor, bishop, priest, rabbi, these are over man. NO NO.
Here is the big problem. The traditions of men. I Cor I4:3I for all can prophesy one by one. How is this possible with a pulpit master who thinks he has all the answers? Get down from the pulpit and join the group and allow Christ to lead.
Ps dent Christ and He will deny you.
I was a believer myself, and it showed me alot about the spiritual world, people and the will to live good and evil but it was just making me a judgmental Bible thumper so now I despised who I was in that time period never want to go back to it. I was fine before a different person and now I Don't think to much on spirituality I know there's the supernatural but don't care that much to take part in anything of that sort just want to live this life while I have it.
What's certain is that we have a life and need to be positive while living it, and not be scared of a afterlife cuase that cuased me not to enjoy life, and after I left it was a battle to give my life purpose and meaning again. I had just felt I was evil and everyone and everything was naturally evil but there is so much good We are not all evil.
I went through times after I left the faith I had felt if the Bible is true we are all going to hell because of our imperfection, and was thinking in that logic because being washed clean is impossible everyone has the so called "Sin" nature anyways so it doesn't matter at the end of the day if faith can take you places belive in anything and after we die we may just be where we belive we'll go but we really don't know.
I respect everyone's beliefs and faiths that's just my my personal experience and reason.
Have you wondered whether the Bible really teaches what you think it teaches? Genuine question. It's quite a big flaw in Protestantism that anyone can make up their own interpretation of Biblical passages with no regards to what has been traditionally taught. This is why Christianity has thousands of denominations. If you want the truth, then Catholicism is your best bet. I'd be more than happy to elaborate on this.
Christian was a term of Scorn and contempt. Acts II:6
Matthew 28:I9 go and make disciples.
It's good 👍 you should definitely do what is good for your family and mental health 😊👍👍👍👍👍👍
Ok yes on #5……change is tough! New bosses, ways of doing things…….And of course your parents divorce was a bomb dropped on you!……hard to be a Christian when Christians around you fail! But no one is perfect!
Even pastors / priests burn out and take a sabbatical. The devil reminds us of sin but Ephesians 2:8-9 says we are saved by faith and NOT by good works lest any man may boast. It would not be Grace if we had to earn it.
God provides different gifts to different people. Not everyone can prophesy. Not everyone can speak in tongues. Not everyone can perform miracles. You are not a lesser Christian, if you cannot. Look at Paul, blessed and with God but he had a physical affliction that he was unable to shift no matter how hard he prayed.
Romans 3:23 says for ALL have sinned. You are no different from anyone else inside or outside the church. What matters is that we say sorry and repent. We can strive to be perfect but I think that is not attainable and unrealistic. Yes we should do good works but Matthew 5:16 says that is to bring glory to God.
1 Corinthians 6 days no liar will enter the kingdom of Heaven. Revelation 21 says all liars have their part in the Lake of Fire. So it was wrong of your church to be dishonest with you. A good church leads by example.
No. The bible does not say that. Indeed quite the opposite. Matthew 7:1 commands us not to judge others. Jesus said not to worry about the wrongs of your brother. The tale of the Good Samaritan shows that we are to be kind to all regardless of someone else's faith. Yes Jesus is the only way, but it is not our place to judge others. God gave freewill. Jesus never forced anyone to love Him.
You are not the energy. If miracles are performed it is by God. Even Jesus prayed to the Father.
People divorced under Moses.
I think your expectation of instant perfection is unreal. We are all works in progress. You think when you become a Christian you automatically become perfect. We are not washed clean by what we do. We are washed clean by what Jesus did upon the cross. I became a Christian in 1974 and I still make mistakes. If you need to talk, I will try to help.
It was just reading the Bible that turned me into an atheist. I mean a TALKING SNAKE in the Garden of Eden???
That was quick.
It’s called fundamental darkness in everyone Ying Yang
God bless you and have Mercy on you brother. As you know, all Jews and Christians were ordered to believe in, accept and follow the Messenger of Allah, Muhammad/ Ahmad, SAS, become Muslims and practice Islam as the ONLY correct Religion/ Way of Life, as Divinely Ordained in their own respective scriptures, the Torah and the Gospel. Just what are the Jews and other Christians waiting for if indeed they follow their Holy Books as they claim??? Islam is for ALL humanity.
How is Islam the way while it is simply another flavor of the same sauce of Abrahamic helpless victim saving?
noooooooooo dont do it man i have seen a demon with my own eyes they truly exist
I'm glad you figured it out when I was 7 is when I stopped believing in God the same way I stopped believing in Santa Claus so welcome to the real world
So you are just leaving the church - or you are leaving Jesus?
Its like if theres a God he doesnt give a shit about families.
This has nothing to do with anything but you have really nice-looking eyes.
Very interesting. Perhaps you are closer to God right now than in your "previous" life. I never felt closer to God when I felt really bad. All the best and God bless you.
th-cam.com/video/NGz-gWv46K4/w-d-xo.html Proof of the land of Ophir, according to Spanish explorers, they even write it in a contract to hide the identity of this nation, they hide this information from us to make the bible looks more of a fairy tale, thanks to God and thanks to past explorer that are also historians., all is coming out
Ezekiel I just felt to share two question you should consider
Did you choose to live?
Did you create yourself?
Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder(Jesus) of a house has greater honor than the house(me/you) itself.Heb3:3
Why did I share this scripture and those questions?
Is there any other God that gave of Himself and became the creation He formed, beaten by the hands He made, and forgave them so that by His Life He could give us access into complete union and communion in Him.
Christianity is not a different path, or a slight conversion. Jesus came to give the dead, Life.
What is in you is eternal,
Love' is standing at the door of your heart.
Come Holy Spirit mark him for Your Glory, fill him with you Presence! 🔥♥️🕊️thank you Jesus!