The issue with the S810, is, even when your phone is cold, it's not cold, if that makes sense? My OnePlus One for example, the coldest the S801 gets is about 35c, even when the phone is freezing to the touch it still sits around 30c, the S810 is MUCH more powerful, so naturally it consumes a bit more power and that translates to more heat, LG didn't give the 810 enough area to disperse heat, so thus, it gets hot, and throttles, which slows things down a lot. That and LG's skin isn't exactly the lightest. But don't panic, Qualcomm are continuously revising the S810 to help keep it cool and power sipping.
I really enjoy your reviews and your reviewing style. You seem very knowledgeable, yet down-to-earth. And your speaking style sounds very polished but relaxed..like you have been doing it a LONG time. I find your style adds to a review - whatever the product (at least in the 3 or 4 vids I have seen of yours so far)...making a review better then it otherwise might be. It is like you are telling me as a person about the product rather then telling the world over TH-cam. And you sound MUCH older then you look, which I think is good in TH-cam videos that are filled with sub-25 year olds.
As an owner of the original Flex I was blown away at the power and battery life. It's CRAZY that it's actually worse on their newer phone (so far). This is crazy. M9 is where it's at now (unless that gets screwed up too).
Man, Qualcomm shot itself in the foot by buying into the "octa core" hype with the Snapdragon 810. The lag-pocalypse in the G Flex 2 CANNOT POSSIBLY be with the software. The LG G3 on Lollipop with a quad HD display on a bog standard quad core snapdragon performs noticeably better than the G Flex 2 that has a "mere" 1080p display. The lag is a result from partly the thermal throttling, but mainly because the entire operation has to hesitate which engine to use at any given time (it has to decide which set of quad cores to use WHILE deciding how much power should be used. This is so much work which allows everything down.) Samsung had the same problem with every Exynos octa phone they had (no wonder people spring for the Snapdragon counterparts more as a result). And so did Mediatek. Qualcomm should've known better. Disappointing that an oversight in the processor handicapped a perfectly capable phone.
For the life of me, no one makes better puns than Michael Fisher! "In your pocket... now" and "coming to America" with a certain movie playing on the screen were just hilarious. As for the Flex 2 goes, I didn't expect it to be so laggy. I tested it in CES and it seemed to perform well. Still, I'm confident LG can solve this problems with updates. I love the Flex 2. It's just an amazing design achievement with very cool technology onboard.
Got. My hands on one in store today. Only let down for me is the brightness is so low. You have to have it on 100% all the time, which makes it get very hot quick and obliterates the battery
The lag issues are easily rectified by enabling GPU rending in developer options and then restarting the phone. The camera app opens almost instantly now, and the lag is no more. The lag really was ridiculous before I stumbled upon this solution while trying everything to improve the performance.
Hearing about the SD810 overheating issues makes me wary of future phones. I'm a Windows Phone user who is still on the L920 and I'm worried that the next flagship may suffer the same overheating issues. Windows Phone can't really suffer a hit with their flagship being crippled when they had a lack of a true flagship (that wasn't carrier exclusive or destroyed by the carrier itself) last year - or at least in the US. Hopefully this overheating issue is resolved by then.
BankaiAce moto x doesn't lag neither does the nexus 6. Stock devices don't lag as much as their counter parts. I can't wait for the m9 to destroy the G4 and S6.
Baby Jesus that doesn't really have anything to do with the video, as those stock devices don't have the 810 yet. That's some of the worst lag I've ever seen, and it seems to be obvious that it's very bad throttling and not the usual heavy UI that's causing it.
The animations seen in this video are fantastic and something that need to be commented on. Well done, sir! Shame that the phone can't quite use all that power, but I look forward to hearing more about it's supposed enhanced LTE compatibility once it hits the states and with the AT&T network. That, and the useability with Lollipop's encryption as that forced my Nexus 4 to such a battery drag that it hasn't left the drawer since hence why my OPO has remained my daily driver at least until my 1020 snags the W10 preview software.
What I like about Micheal Fisher's reviews is that honesty is always at the forefront.....disappointing for a high end device though...reminds me of a mid range phone.
hector carpintero yes , with windows phone it will not lag , but for me windows phone is only for low end due to lack of functions , personalisation and apps
matthew von Android phones always, ALWAYS have lag. I'm using a Note 3. I remember when I bought that phone when it first came out, it was the most powerful Android phone of its time and brand new it still lagged when scrolling. And no that's not just TouchWiz lag. I also had another Android phone with CyanogenMod installed and it was the same.
You said the S810 is "8-Core" this is somewhat false. The Snapdragon 810 uses an Octa-Core design. The difference is the big-little infrastructure in the chip, there are 4 high power/performance Cortex A57 cores, that work side-by-side with 4 Cortex A53 cores. In 8-Core CPU chips it's just 9 high performance cores, but that would basically throw your battery out the window on a phone, that is the difference between Octa-Core and 8-Core.
Hopefully the HTC One M9 won't suffer from the same terrible throttling. What really makes we want the M9 is the blazing fast day to day performance coupled with amazing design and hardware. Really hoping HTC won't have this problem!
I'm glad LG kept their software mostly the same except for the addition of some features. Everyone else can call them "gimmicky" and complain about "bloatware" but there are definitely situations where you'll be glad for the extra functionality. For example, I use the QSlide apps and LG's dual window almost daily on my G3. I love when phones have so many features you'll probably never find them all. I'd never even buy a phone with stock Android when there are much better things out there like this LG software or Samsung's Touchwiz.
I had this phone for a year and it was great even in 2016 that i used it. I had to trade it for a g5 aftre lg in greece couldn't service. I don't get why it gets all the criticism despite the faults. It was and still is one of the more ambitious and experimental phones even to this day in 2018.
It is a shame that LG has not been able to make this beautiful phone perform as good as good as it looks. I hope they are able to fix it before the US release, it is an awesome looking device. Fantastic review as always.
The amount of people complaining against Android for the performance of this phone is amazing. Most people saying Android lag in any hardware !!! Then use or see the Moto G it's not a flagship but it runs Android without lag. So, the lag in LG G Flex is not caused by Android.
+chromosomes lord 2GB or 3GB version? And, in all honesty. All Android phones lag. One of the reasons I stuck with WP for so long. Unfortunately w10m sucks donkey balls so I'm going back to Android.
The problem was on the processor itself. That over-heating issue is really indeed true after all. So basically, Samsung's intuition to opt for their in-house SoC prove their choice. I cant wait to see the review of the Samsung Galaxy S6/Edge to see what's Samsung has in store for us this year! Planning to upgrade my phone, and this LG G Flex 2 was among in my list! Great video Michael! More power Pocketnow Team!
Look up the benchmarks of this 810 in the larger phone Snapdragon was boasting about, it falls behind the 805 in several areas and seems to throttle even in that huge device. Looks like the 810 wasn't ready for prime time. Now we know why Samsung decided to ditch them in the US market for their own SOC
I use the G Flex 2 but i didnt have these Performance issues and then if you watch Super Saf TV's Review you will see that only some People have these Performance issues.
only problem is that they neutered the s6 with a non removable battery and no sd card. That means built in obsolescence and overpriced or permanently limited storage.
ShadowsUmbra but the mass market does not care about those 2 being removed, samsung aims to sell millions of phones, not cater to the people like us who watch videos like this, the s6 is a mainstream device, if you want the sd card and the battery, the note is the way to go.
I really hope they fix that lag issue with the Snapdragon 810 chip. I wouldn't mind if they shipped the phone with a 805 or even an 801 as long as there is little to no lag on the phone. Other than that, the LG G Flex 2 looks like a phone that I would definitely buy if my contract ends up. I'm really falling for that banana-style hardware. Excellent review, Mr. Fisher!
My question is, will the 810 do the same to the rest of the devices? I mean why do you think they sell CPU air and water coolers for PC's so it doesn't over heat. Eventually the CPU will be too powerful to have in a smartphone because of the heat can't be dispersed unless new tech is found. Heat is the #1 problem with all tech.
Terry Boccarossa good point. With all that raw power coming to smartphones, advanced cooling may be required. I eagerly await *****'s response to this.
I had the G3 for about a month then I got rid of it. Great design, great display but terrible slowdowns with the software LG has provided (was on 4.4 at the time). I even switched launchers to Nova and that improved the performance a bit. I don't think I will be buying an LG smartphone again in the near future. My first and my last.
As always great review. The heating and throttling issues with the Snapdragon 810 chipset is not very good at all. It is a worrying sign. I think it is an indication that the thinning phone and making phones more metallic trends may lead to more issues with overheating, lowered performance and decreased battery life. Yes the LG G Flex 2 is a plastic phone with self-healing properties. However, imagine the Qualcomm heating issues with HTC Flagships and the Samsung Galaxy S/Alpha hybrids. They are more likely to be more of a metal design. If metal heats up more during the course of daily use, a person may get burned in the hand or in the pocket with a Snapdragon 810 phone. The only positive takeaways from this review is that the phone runs Android Lollipop and that micro SD cards are getting bigger. If the rumors are true, then Samsung seems correct going with own Exynos chipset for its major phone line for 2015.
It's not just the chipset, lollipop is also the culprit. My Nexus 6 has some lag issues too even with 3gb of RAM and vanilla Android. KitKat was buttery smooth on my old N5. It seems Google needs to up its game a bit with lollipop.
I get the feeling Qualcomm rushed a 64-bit chip to the market just because Apple developed one. It's a shame really, because it's not like the average customer even cares about whether the processor in their phone is 64-bit
The more I hear about the Snapdragon 810, the more I think I'll avoid picking up a phone with one inside. I know Qualcomm had to release SOMETHING, but going with stock ARM CPU designs really doesn't seem to have paid off, even if they "needed" to make the jump to 64 bit...
Its not the 810 that causing widgets and apps to redraw on the home screen, its android buggy OS and the 2gb ram. I had the same problem on my nexus5 from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 its the memory leak issue, basically the phone runs out of ram and when you hit the home button it has to reload everything. Now I bought one+ one with 3gb of ram I don't get any issues I had with the nexus5. Google are going to fix the issue on 5.1.0. I think LG made a massive mistake with 2gb ram all models should have 3gb ram.
And people attacked Samsung for ditching the Snapdragon 810. They seem to have mad a great choice and dodged a bullet. Keep in mind, this phone is 1080p, not the 2k/QHD screens Samsung would most likely use.
I am a G2 owner for about half a year and it's a really good device ... I fall inlove into the red glossy Flex 2 but after seeing this video for the problems that suffers I think I'll skip it :
Consumer level microsd cards are at a maximum 128GB of space as of today. When storage capacity of microsd reaches 2TB in the future, this and many other of today's flagship devices will still be able to read/ write to it since it falls under the micro sdxc standard.
Señor 2Phones, there's no doubt in my mind that a couple of software updates and this phone will be running like a champ. Bcuz if it doesn't Qualcomm will have a lot of 'splaining to do.
You didn't talk about the WiFi antenna or speed. I mean its important now, if you want yo use your phone without paying monthly subscription, you need a good WiFi and idk if the g flex 2 bring that
This is exactly why I wish companies would stop it already with the specs wars/stunts. Do phones really need more processing power than last year's snapdragon 805 or even 800?? No. Its not like we need more power, more cores, etc. Do phones really need qhd displays?? No. Even phablet screens are too small to justify qhd. The industry should really focus on software enhancements, refining the ui, eliminating bugs and hiccups, etc. But instead we get a unnecessary oversized processor with inadequate cooling that's forced to throttle so much that it underperforms it's predecessor. Smh. Rant over
Aw man, this is incredibly disappointing. Lags and battery life issues described on the video doesn't belong on a flagship device early 2015... I guess I should give this one a pass. As usual thanks for the awesome and detailed review!
Got the 32 gb model with 3gb RAM (Korean model) and it was so bad that I returned it after a few days. The lag reminded me of the early days of the worse android. I know that if i waited a month or two perhaps with some firmware updates it might have improved somewhat.....but why should I? Why do they sell phones that are in such poor condition?
Real dissapointment,
Hope LG fix the Snapdragon 810 issues,
This is supposed to be the fastest processor available on a phone,
Should have zero lag
Specs ain't shit mate. Just look at Apple as a prime example.
LG G4 will have it fixed I think they were just in a hurry with this one.
matthew von the os has a lot to do. I bet you a Nexus 6 doesn't lag as much as this does.
You're not the only one disappointed.
The issue with the S810, is, even when your phone is cold, it's not cold, if that makes sense? My OnePlus One for example, the coldest the S801 gets is about 35c, even when the phone is freezing to the touch it still sits around 30c, the S810 is MUCH more powerful, so naturally it consumes a bit more power and that translates to more heat, LG didn't give the 810 enough area to disperse heat, so thus, it gets hot, and throttles, which slows things down a lot. That and LG's skin isn't exactly the lightest. But don't panic, Qualcomm are continuously revising the S810 to help keep it cool and power sipping.
another Lag from LG! the lag was the reason why I went to Note 4 Edge. If you don't mind the size, Note 4 is the more rounded device for the price!
I love the transition from cover view to insides! What an awesome idea Michael!
Those transitions at 2:20 and 2:31 were great! As well as the review, great job Michael!
Another fantastic video from Fisher! Hands down my favourite TH-cam tech reviewer! Keep up the great work!
Same!
The curved screen was one of the things i loved about the old Galaxy Nexus back in the day, honestly voice calls on it were a pleasure in that respect
There's just something about Michael Fisher's reviews that makes me like Pocketnow. He makes every review so fun and lively
I really enjoy your reviews and your reviewing style. You seem very knowledgeable, yet down-to-earth. And your speaking style sounds very polished but relaxed..like you have been doing it a LONG time. I find your style adds to a review - whatever the product (at least in the 3 or 4 vids I have seen of yours so far)...making a review better then it otherwise might be. It is like you are telling me as a person about the product rather then telling the world over TH-cam.
And you sound MUCH older then you look, which I think is good in TH-cam videos that are filled with sub-25 year olds.
Really enjoyed your review of the LG phone.
Your the first reviewer that's mentioned the lag due to thermal throttling.
Thumbs up for a honest review.
Looks like ole Sammy was right about that chip all along, looking forward to the exynos Galaxy S6.
As an owner of the original Flex I was blown away at the power and battery life. It's CRAZY that it's actually worse on their newer phone (so far). This is crazy. M9 is where it's at now (unless that gets screwed up too).
Man, Qualcomm shot itself in the foot by buying into the "octa core" hype with the Snapdragon 810. The lag-pocalypse in the G Flex 2 CANNOT POSSIBLY be with the software. The LG G3 on Lollipop with a quad HD display on a bog standard quad core snapdragon performs noticeably better than the G Flex 2 that has a "mere" 1080p display. The lag is a result from partly the thermal throttling, but mainly because the entire operation has to hesitate which engine to use at any given time (it has to decide which set of quad cores to use WHILE deciding how much power should be used. This is so much work which allows everything down.)
Samsung had the same problem with every Exynos octa phone they had (no wonder people spring for the Snapdragon counterparts more as a result). And so did Mediatek. Qualcomm should've known better. Disappointing that an oversight in the processor handicapped a perfectly capable phone.
Paolo Ariedo so...
The note 5 sucks?
For the life of me, no one makes better puns than Michael Fisher!
"In your pocket... now" and "coming to America" with a certain movie playing on the screen were just hilarious.
As for the Flex 2 goes, I didn't expect it to be so laggy. I tested it in CES and it seemed to perform well. Still, I'm confident LG can solve this problems with updates.
I love the Flex 2. It's just an amazing design achievement with very cool technology onboard.
Now I understand why companies are shying away from the 810. I had no idea it was that big of a problem
very fair review. will wait for your follow up review when it's release publicly as LG said to fix the issues mentioned here.
lol i wouldn't have expected that uplifting little message at the end of the video. thanks Michael : p
Got. My hands on one in store today. Only let down for me is the brightness is so low. You have to have it on 100% all the time, which makes it get very hot quick and obliterates the battery
Pocket now better give this dude a raise...just beastin these reviews..one of the best reviews I have seen..
The lag issues are easily rectified by enabling GPU rending in developer options and then restarting the phone. The camera app opens almost instantly now, and the lag is no more. The lag really was ridiculous before I stumbled upon this solution while trying everything to improve the performance.
Hearing about the SD810 overheating issues makes me wary of future phones. I'm a Windows Phone user who is still on the L920 and I'm worried that the next flagship may suffer the same overheating issues. Windows Phone can't really suffer a hit with their flagship being crippled when they had a lack of a true flagship (that wasn't carrier exclusive or destroyed by the carrier itself) last year - or at least in the US. Hopefully this overheating issue is resolved by then.
Which is why LG is also opting for making their own SoC for future phones to avoid all the QC SD issues.
BankaiAce moto x doesn't lag neither does the nexus 6. Stock devices don't lag as much as their counter parts. I can't wait for the m9 to destroy the G4 and S6.
Baby Jesus o.O k den~
BankaiAce Nice profile pic!
Baby Jesus that doesn't really have anything to do with the video, as those stock devices don't have the 810 yet. That's some of the worst lag I've ever seen, and it seems to be obvious that it's very bad throttling and not the usual heavy UI that's causing it.
The animations seen in this video are fantastic and something that need to be commented on. Well done, sir! Shame that the phone can't quite use all that power, but I look forward to hearing more about it's supposed enhanced LTE compatibility once it hits the states and with the AT&T network.
That, and the useability with Lollipop's encryption as that forced my Nexus 4 to such a battery drag that it hasn't left the drawer since hence why my OPO has remained my daily driver at least until my 1020 snags the W10 preview software.
"A phone that's as fun to use as it is to lookat which is hard to find in this market"
- Michael, you do a great job with your reviews!
Oh, the word-play was... brilliant, Mr. Fisher.
Nice to see a review on time or even ahead of the curve. I was so excited for this phone.. But seeing it has the same issues as my G3 I'll wait.
Double tap, is it just me or did that first come out in Star Trek when communicating? *tap tap* "Beam me up Scotty!"
This guy is like the best reviewer for phones on TH-cam
Such great reviews. I really don't think anyone does it better, cap'n
What I like about Micheal Fisher's reviews is that honesty is always at the forefront.....disappointing for a high end device though...reminds me of a mid range phone.
Do you think the problem is Android's typical lag? How about a Windows Phone 8.1 G-flex.. will be perfect.
only on phones with modified android , stock android phones like nexuses and motorola moto x \ moto g don't lag
Piotr Kozaczka true :) but still, Modern UI with the clean interface will look really nice I think :) maybe a Windows 10 for phone G-Flex..
hector carpintero yes , with windows phone it will not lag , but for me windows phone is only for low end due to lack of functions , personalisation and apps
matthew von
Android phones always, ALWAYS have lag. I'm using a Note 3. I remember when I bought that phone when it first came out, it was the most powerful Android phone of its time and brand new it still lagged when scrolling. And no that's not just TouchWiz lag. I also had another Android phone with CyanogenMod installed and it was the same.
Ahmet C. Ay if it lags on cyanogenmod there is two options :
1. low end device
2. early beta bulid
3. wrong kernel
You said the S810 is "8-Core" this is somewhat false. The Snapdragon 810 uses an Octa-Core design. The difference is the big-little infrastructure in the chip, there are 4 high power/performance Cortex A57 cores, that work side-by-side with 4 Cortex A53 cores. In 8-Core CPU chips it's just 9 high performance cores, but that would basically throw your battery out the window on a phone, that is the difference between Octa-Core and 8-Core.
Both Pocketnow and Android Authority released the G Flex 2 review at the same time what is this sorcery?
Hopefully the HTC One M9 won't suffer from the same terrible throttling. What really makes we want the M9 is the blazing fast day to day performance coupled with amazing design and hardware. Really hoping HTC won't have this problem!
I'm glad LG kept their software mostly the same except for the addition of some features. Everyone else can call them "gimmicky" and complain about "bloatware" but there are definitely situations where you'll be glad for the extra functionality. For example, I use the QSlide apps and LG's dual window almost daily on my G3. I love when phones have so many features you'll probably never find them all. I'd never even buy a phone with stock Android when there are much better things out there like this LG software or Samsung's Touchwiz.
I had this phone for a year and it was great even in 2016 that i used it. I had to trade it for a g5 aftre lg in greece couldn't service. I don't get why it gets all the criticism despite the faults. It was and still is one of the more ambitious and experimental phones even to this day in 2018.
It is a shame that LG has not been able to make this beautiful phone perform as good as good as it looks. I hope they are able to fix it before the US release, it is an awesome looking device. Fantastic review as always.
Glad I watched this vid. This was on the short list for my next handset. Not any more.
The amount of people complaining against Android for the performance of this phone is amazing.
Most people saying Android lag in any hardware !!! Then use or see the Moto G it's not a flagship but it runs Android without lag.
So, the lag in LG G Flex is not caused by Android.
now with lollipop version 5.1.1 its running better than ever, so no more lag anymore
it lags i have the phone 😒
+chromosomes lord
2GB or 3GB version?
And, in all honesty. All Android phones lag. One of the reasons I stuck with WP for so long. Unfortunately w10m sucks donkey balls so I'm going back to Android.
+Matt Dargis I have the 32GB actually
That pretty much strengthens Samsung Reasoning for using their own Exynos chip for the GS6.
The problem was on the processor itself. That over-heating issue is really indeed true after all. So basically, Samsung's intuition to opt for their in-house SoC prove their choice. I cant wait to see the review of the Samsung Galaxy S6/Edge to see what's Samsung has in store for us this year! Planning to upgrade my phone, and this LG G Flex 2 was among in my list!
Great video Michael! More power Pocketnow Team!
My Nexus 5 suffers from those same slowdowns - I think it's partly Android related. Hope 5.1 fixes it.
Definitely lollipop. IDK why Google didnt squash some more bugs before the final release. It is laggy as hell. I am considering downgrade to kitkat.
Nice reference to Coming to America, Mike.
Watching this on my LG G2!
Watching this on my LG G3!
Watching on my LG G4.
Watching this on my iPad Air 2
One plus
Watching this on my LG G
damn.. I hope the lag is due to software issues rather than the snapdragon 810. Sounds worrying otherwise for all upcoming devices like the htc one m9
Look up the benchmarks of this 810 in the larger phone Snapdragon was boasting about, it falls behind the 805 in several areas and seems to throttle even in that huge device. Looks like the 810 wasn't ready for prime time. Now we know why Samsung decided to ditch them in the US market for their own SOC
Nathaniel Graham
was thinking the exact same thing, glad i waited for the s6 to see what the 7 chip is like.
I use the G Flex 2 but i didnt have these Performance issues and then if you watch Super Saf TV's Review you will see that only some People have these Performance issues.
only problem is that they neutered the s6 with a non removable battery and no sd card. That means built in obsolescence and overpriced or permanently limited storage.
ShadowsUmbra but the mass market does not care about those 2 being removed, samsung aims to sell millions of phones, not cater to the people like us who watch videos like this, the s6 is a mainstream device, if you want the sd card and the battery, the note is the way to go.
I really hope they fix that lag issue with the Snapdragon 810 chip. I wouldn't mind if they shipped the phone with a 805 or even an 801 as long as there is little to no lag on the phone.
Other than that, the LG G Flex 2 looks like a phone that I would definitely buy if my contract ends up. I'm really falling for that banana-style hardware. Excellent review, Mr. Fisher!
Did he say 2 terabytes microSD?
I'm not too mad I opted for the G3 not too long ago, this looks mostly the same with a slight curve added. In most aspects, the G3 looks better even,
So basically you're saying that we should have this phone in our Pocket Later?
Well this certainly wasn't what I expected to hear. I'll still opt to reserve judgement for now
it started out good.. then failed utterly because of the cpu, and the camera, the speakers... why aren't they going front facing.
So sad. Smh
My question is, will the 810 do the same to the rest of the devices? I mean why do you think they sell CPU air and water coolers for PC's so it doesn't over heat. Eventually the CPU will be too powerful to have in a smartphone because of the heat can't be dispersed unless new tech is found. Heat is the #1 problem with all tech.
Terry Boccarossa good point. With all that raw power coming to smartphones, advanced cooling may be required. I eagerly await *****'s response to this.
Terry Boccarossa 810 will do the same to other devices thats y Samsung ditch snapdragon
love the coming to america reference, awesome movie
I have exactly the same lag in my phone (LG G2 Mini). I believe LG needs to recheck their UI and Launcher app
Bravo Michael Fisher good review, keep it up. You and MKHD are one of my top two tech reviewer.. I hope HTC m9 doesnt lag my contract will end soon..
Coming to America..Michael lives among the greats!
I guess Samsung wasn't lying about the 810 performance issues after all.
I had the G3 for about a month then I got rid of it. Great design, great display but terrible slowdowns with the software LG has provided (was on 4.4 at the time). I even switched launchers to Nova and that improved the performance a bit. I don't think I will be buying an LG smartphone again in the near future. My first and my last.
As always great review. The heating and throttling issues with the Snapdragon 810 chipset is not very good at all. It is a worrying sign.
I think it is an indication that the thinning phone and making phones more metallic trends may lead to more issues with overheating, lowered performance and decreased battery life.
Yes the LG G Flex 2 is a plastic phone with self-healing properties. However, imagine the Qualcomm heating issues with HTC Flagships and the Samsung Galaxy S/Alpha hybrids. They are more likely to be more of a metal design. If metal heats up more during the course of daily use, a person may get burned in the hand or in the pocket with a Snapdragon 810 phone.
The only positive takeaways from this review is that the phone runs Android Lollipop and that micro SD cards are getting bigger.
If the rumors are true, then Samsung seems correct going with own Exynos chipset for its major phone line for 2015.
It's not just the chipset, lollipop is also the culprit. My Nexus 6 has some lag issues too even with 3gb of RAM and vanilla Android. KitKat was buttery smooth on my old N5. It seems Google needs to up its game a bit with lollipop.
With that performance review, it's game over for me. Z4, let's go.
Absolutely love my G Flex 2, doesn't overheat and doesn't lag, very smooth phone, better than my OnePlus One and G3
that mini heart attack when you pressed on the phone xD
You would think that a flag ship device wouldn't have these issues. That homescreen redraw would be a deal breaker for me.
U would wonder why samsung chose not to use the snapdragon 810
So glad I watched this before buying. Not getting this now. Thanks for the insight
I get the feeling Qualcomm rushed a 64-bit chip to the market just because Apple developed one. It's a shame really, because it's not like the average customer even cares about whether the processor in their phone is 64-bit
The more I hear about the Snapdragon 810, the more I think I'll avoid picking up a phone with one inside. I know Qualcomm had to release SOMETHING, but going with stock ARM CPU designs really doesn't seem to have paid off, even if they "needed" to make the jump to 64 bit...
Its not the 810 that causing widgets and apps to redraw on the home screen, its android buggy OS and the 2gb ram. I had the same problem on my nexus5 from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 its the memory leak issue, basically the phone runs out of ram and when you hit the home button it has to reload everything. Now I bought one+ one with 3gb of ram I don't get any issues I had with the nexus5. Google are going to fix the issue on 5.1.0. I think LG made a massive mistake with 2gb ram all models should have 3gb ram.
And people attacked Samsung for ditching the Snapdragon 810. They seem to have mad a great choice and dodged a bullet. Keep in mind, this phone is 1080p, not the 2k/QHD screens Samsung would most likely use.
I am a G2 owner for about half a year and it's a really good device ... I fall inlove into the red glossy Flex 2 but after seeing this video for the problems that suffers I think I'll skip it :
Hold on. Did you just say 2tb micro sd? Do my ears deceive me? Can someone explain?
micro sd cards can only go upto 128Gb but the phone will support higher storage maybe through an external drive through usb.
Consumer level microsd cards are at a maximum 128GB of space as of today. When storage capacity of microsd reaches 2TB in the future, this and many other of today's flagship devices will still be able to read/ write to it since it falls under the micro sdxc standard.
The highest it goes right now is 128gb, the 2tb is more future-proofing more than anything else.
The G3 has the same storage space. You late. Lol
2TB is for the future when they decide to make them. Like 4k tv's are still made but not every movie plays in 4k resolution.
Tried it in Hong Kong. Gorgeous design, beautiful screen but my god does the UI lag. Compared to my old G3, it was a grandma.
Like the "Coming To America" scene...very clever.
Señor 2Phones, there's no doubt in my mind that a couple of software updates and this phone will be running like a champ. Bcuz if it doesn't Qualcomm will have a lot of 'splaining to do.
You didn't talk about the WiFi antenna or speed. I mean its important now, if you want yo use your phone without paying monthly subscription, you need a good WiFi and idk if the g flex 2 bring that
This is exactly why I wish companies would stop it already with the specs wars/stunts. Do phones really need more processing power than last year's snapdragon 805 or even 800?? No. Its not like we need more power, more cores, etc. Do phones really need qhd displays?? No. Even phablet screens are too small to justify qhd. The industry should really focus on software enhancements, refining the ui, eliminating bugs and hiccups, etc. But instead we get a unnecessary oversized processor with inadequate cooling that's forced to throttle so much that it underperforms it's predecessor. Smh. Rant over
Aw man, this is incredibly disappointing. Lags and battery life issues described on the video doesn't belong on a flagship device early 2015... I guess I should give this one a pass. As usual thanks for the awesome and detailed review!
Did anyone else notice when he said "comes to America" he played a clip of the movie Coming to America? 😂😂
oh dear... Does the snapdragon 810 would be also the downfall of the eagerly awaited HTC One M9??
It seems that the reports about over heating issues of 810 are true....Samsung did a smart move
HTC will fix the throttling problem - just have to wait for the M9.
I see what you did there in the beginning
sounds like best bet to wait for g flex 3
Fuck, I really hope they fix the lag. Because that is a DEAL BREAKER, no matter how sexy the industrial design.
they fixed what was lacking in the original but they removed the 2 things I liked... the screen size and rear notification light...
deal breaker...
this just might be my next phone when my G2 finally dies....and yes i'm still rockin' the G2
And what about now? in europe is 270€ .it's worth it? or do i buy the oneplus X ?
im upset they got rid of the G3's multitasking for the native lollipop card multitasking.
***** Why do phone's always take better pictures outdoors than indoors????????? Pocketnow
the heat issues have fixed via Ota correct? meaning that no throttling?
These were the days....
Aren't you going to have issues with the screen turning on (with knock-to-wake on) when putting it in your pocket like that?
Did you say micro sd expansion to 2 tb? Holy hell!
Hoping lag fixed for usdm and maybe 3g ram units will be better
would love that phone...but not if it stutters/lags. Why not using a lower processor if the big one doenst even work properly...
what you did there in the beginning of the video, I see it
awesome title, u nailed it! BTC
is the video grainy when you watch a video
I wish LG mobile was still around
Will there be a after the buzz video for this phone?
what you did there at 4:30, I see it
Got the 32 gb model with 3gb RAM (Korean model) and it was so bad that I returned it after a few days. The lag reminded me of the early days of the worse android. I know that if i waited a month or two perhaps with some firmware updates it might have improved somewhat.....but why should I? Why do they sell phones that are in such poor condition?